Luckily I kepy my mouth shut when she was yelling for this very reason.You'd think that our significant others would be pleased, as just noted above, that we're in great shape and strong of mind. I think the fitter I get, the more my wife lets herself gets out of shape.
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I hear you!
Funny thing is, I have gained weight (about 5 pounds) since I started running. I am lifting less and eating more because I am so hungry when I run. Too bad I eat a lot of crap because there is only so much healthy stuff I can eat in one day. But, I am working on it.
El Floppo
Footballguy
The length of time you're running- you shouldn't be eating or doing anything different in your diet (other than trying to eat healthier). You definitely shouldn't be gaining weight! You'll also find it's a lot easier to run no carrying those pounds around. On top of being able to run faster, your knees, hips and back will thank you.
Yea. I don't know why I wrote it that way. I should have said because I feel like I can eat more now that I am running and I am eating a lot of crap. That first paragraph sounded like I was making excuses. I agree with you completely.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Didn't mean to jump down your throat there... sorry. It's just a little close to home lately- I couldn't eat enough when I was deep in my tri-training, especially the IM training. I turned into a little baby- I'd get hungry every couple of hours and HAD to eat, or else I'd get cranky... little baby cranky. Same went for all bodily functions- if I got tired, I had to shut it down. If I had to hit the can- whah-whah-whah until I got there. Ended up losing about 15 lbs total- evened out at a weight that felt good and healthy for me. Unfortunately, the training stopped, but the eating habits continued. What took me years to accomplish through training took me little more than 9 months to lose. Now I'm just fat and cranky.
RustyFA
Footballguy
Well to be honest this is the event that a couple of guys I run with picked. Like I said it will be the 1st real marathon for all of us and our goal is simply to run the whole thing. Honestly-30 minutes just to the starting line? The choice was sort of a go big attitude. There aremarathons around but running in the "Chicago Marathon" just seemed like a bigger deal that Marathon to Marathon or the Break the Dam Marathon. Anymore advice on the Chicago Marathon would be really appreciated.RustyFA - if you're in Iowa, why are you doing the Chicago Marathon, may I ask? Buyer beware: it's an absolute zoo. It's, like, 40,000 people, and even late in the race, it's curb to curb people. It takes more than thirty minutes to even get everyone across the starting line. It's an event more than a "race." I suppose it can be a neat way to see the Chicago neighborhoods, and some folks enjoy the big event. But as a runner, it's not my cup of tea. I was actually eyeing the Des Moines marathon before ending up on a spring marathon schedule. But hey, not to discourage you ...If nothing else, you do get a lot of crowd support through most of the race.
RustyFA
Footballguy
Thanks, I appreciate the advice! This will be my 1st marathon and I think it is going to take all I have. More mental than physical for me. Right now I am running between 12-18 miles a week. One question I have is about a pain I have on my left side in the back of the hip. I do run a little more pigeon-toed on my right foot. Could this being hurting my opposite hip? This thread is just great. Awesome advice.I've done Chicago 4 times, and been an observer once. While Tri-man's comments are accurate about the field of runners (I think about 33k finished last year), it is an absolutely unbelievable event to participate in. Crowds 3 and 4 people deep through a lot of the course (not by US Cellular Field, but they pick back up as you get further north), lots of bands, great course through Chicago neighborhoods - as he said, it's an event. There is a huge energy you experience. If you're looking to set a PR, it can be tough if you start too far back. The first couple of miles are slow if you're in the main pack (ie looking for a 4:00 - 4:30 finish time). But if you're looking to finish your first marathon, I think this might be ideal - there is so much support out there to will you across the finish line.RustyFA - if you're in Iowa, why are you doing the Chicago Marathon, may I ask? Buyer beware: it's an absolute zoo. It's, like, 40,000 people, and even late in the race, it's curb to curb people. It takes more than thirty minutes to even get everyone across the starting line. It's an event more than a "race." I suppose it can be a neat way to see the Chicago neighborhoods, and some folks enjoy the big event. But as a runner, it's not my cup of tea. I was actually eyeing the Des Moines marathon before ending up on a spring marathon schedule. But hey, not to discourage you ...
Rusty - be careful with your training leading up to week 18 (official training program kickoff). In the past I've peaked too early for Chicago because I started putting in a lot of miles in the spring. You need to be on your game when you start hitting those high-mileage weekend runs!!
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
Got me a pair of 6s.Yeah, looks like the 6 is SO last month.lol Even brooksrunning has them on sale down to $63. Another site lists them as "closeout".Thanks for the tip, I'll have to check out SA.
Then, upon checkout, dude gives me the receipt -- "call this number, answer a few survey questions, they'll give you a code number...write the code number here in the box and this turns into a 25% off coupon." I'm thinking of doing so, and going back tomorrow for a 2nd pair (25% off of 50% off). 
wraith5
Footballguy
Didn't mean to jump down your throat there... sorry. It's just a little close to home lately- I couldn't eat enough when I was deep in my tri-training, especially the IM training. I turned into a little baby- I'd get hungry every couple of hours and HAD to eat, or else I'd get cranky... little baby cranky. Same went for all bodily functions- if I got tired, I had to shut it down. If I had to hit the can- whah-whah-whah until I got there. Ended up losing about 15 lbs total- evened out at a weight that felt good and healthy for me. Unfortunately, the training stopped, but the eating habits continued. What took me years to accomplish through training took me little more than 9 months to lose. Now I'm just fat and cranky.
at "little baby cranky" I consistently find myself justifying what I eat because I run - and then tell myself as long as I just eat what I 'normally' would, I'll lose a little weight every week (about 27 miles per pound, give or take). Then at 9pm I'm hungry, and a little voice says, "It's OK - you ran three miles today. Go ahead and eat a pint of ice cream..." I often tell people I have to run to support my eating habit. Anyway, because the pounds haven't been coming off as I'd like, I took a closer look at what I should eat, and what I do eat. According to several sources on the web (I did the research last year), at nearly 6'2" and 200 pounds, I can eat about 3500 calories/day. As long as I stay there or below, and keep running 15+ miles per week, I should lose about 1/2 a pound each week (which is about what I've done for the past 6 weeks). My wife is a great cook so cutting the dinners isn't a realistic option for me. That leaves late-night, a serious weakness, and daytime eating. Most days I can bring leftovers for lunch, which is good eating, but a lot more calories than I need. Lately, at least two days I week my daytime eating consists of: 1 oatmeal packet for breakfast (160 cals), a granola bar around 10am (120 cals), a PB&J and one serving of pretzels (about 510 cals) for lunch, and an apple around 3pm (100 cals). Occasionally I'll have another serving of pretzels if I need it - for a grand total of about 1000 calories. I drink one or two Diet Mountain Dews and at least a liter of water - I try for 1.5 - 2 if I think about it. And I chew gum when I get hungry outside of what's listed above. I'm hoping next Wed I'll be at 200 lbs even - from there I want to get to 195 by the end of April, which would be the lightest I've been since I was about 20 years old (just turned 36). I think that's a pretty realistic goal as long as I stay focused. And if I can do it, trust me - anyone can. It's just a matter of paying attention to how much you can eat, and how much you do eat.
wraith5
Footballguy
Sweet deal! I hope the shoes work well for you. I will test mine again tomorrow morning, and if that goes well I'll go get a second pair in the afternoon, too.Got me a pair of 6s.Yeah, looks like the 6 is SO last month.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
Re: the eating posts,
Sounds like I'm the opposite. I've lost about 20lbs since last summer, just before I started training for PF Chang's. My doc thinks that my I-T troubles might also be aided by the weight loss - I've lost padding, so the tendons/muscles are rubbing against bone. So, I'm trying to figure out how and what to eat in order to gain back a little fat. I've never been a big eater, so I'm finding it difficult to do this.
Guess I can try Wraith's "diet" in post #410, and start eating at least a little something every couple of hours.
Sounds like I'm the opposite. I've lost about 20lbs since last summer, just before I started training for PF Chang's. My doc thinks that my I-T troubles might also be aided by the weight loss - I've lost padding, so the tendons/muscles are rubbing against bone. So, I'm trying to figure out how and what to eat in order to gain back a little fat. I've never been a big eater, so I'm finding it difficult to do this.
Guess I can try Wraith's "diet" in post #410, and start eating at least a little something every couple of hours.
Poppa
Footballguy
"Grazing" is the way to go...with maybe a bigger meal at lunchtime. Lots of fruits, vegetables, proteins...a yogurt, short handful of almonds/peanuts, spoonful o' peanut butter, can o' tuna, banana, pretzels, hard-boiled egg, protein bar (I like Clif - Protein Builders), piece of cheese... a little leftover chicken or beef ('cause you made extra on purpose), and, of course lots of water/watered-down Gatorade.All easy/quick and satisfying (You may have to teach yourself this!) grazing foods.RoarinSonoran said:
KTM
Braaaaaaaaaap
I might as well pile on here and come on out of the fat closet.
I ran HS track & cross country. Loved running. I was more of a sprinter than a distance guy (200m & 400m mainly) but started to really latch on to the 5k/10k runs as I got into my early 20's. Fast forward through leaving the Air Force, getting married, having a kid and here I am 40lbs over what I was 5 years ago. I'm now 6'3 225 and I feel like a porker (yeah I know, I don't have a lot of muscle bulk - more of a runner's body). I've just started back running for the past two weeks (after a 2yr hiatus) and feel like this thread will help keep myself honest.
I haven't even bothered to time myself yet, but I'm comfortably running 3 miles again. Someone posted about the weight killing your back/hips/knees. Man I never would've thought about this 5 years ago but now that I've started back again, I can feel it in my back and knees after every run. I'm convinced its this damn spare tire that's stuck to my waist...
I haven't set any specific goals other than to curb my ADDICTION to eating and getting back down to about 200lbs. I would like to try and get to a sub 22 5k by the summer but I'll see how my first timed run goes before I set a real goal, time-wise.
I ran HS track & cross country. Loved running. I was more of a sprinter than a distance guy (200m & 400m mainly) but started to really latch on to the 5k/10k runs as I got into my early 20's. Fast forward through leaving the Air Force, getting married, having a kid and here I am 40lbs over what I was 5 years ago. I'm now 6'3 225 and I feel like a porker (yeah I know, I don't have a lot of muscle bulk - more of a runner's body). I've just started back running for the past two weeks (after a 2yr hiatus) and feel like this thread will help keep myself honest.
I haven't even bothered to time myself yet, but I'm comfortably running 3 miles again. Someone posted about the weight killing your back/hips/knees. Man I never would've thought about this 5 years ago but now that I've started back again, I can feel it in my back and knees after every run. I'm convinced its this damn spare tire that's stuck to my waist...
I haven't set any specific goals other than to curb my ADDICTION to eating and getting back down to about 200lbs. I would like to try and get to a sub 22 5k by the summer but I'll see how my first timed run goes before I set a real goal, time-wise.
KTM
Braaaaaaaaaap
3500 calories/day? Can you show me a link? That sounds awefully high but I could be wrong...wraith5 said:
Gum is a great way to help curb the addiction. I almost feel like a smoker when I told my wife I'm now chewing a half pack of gum a day.wraith5 said:
This is the hardest part. It becomes such a habit to just reach into the closet and pull out a bag of chips and just go to town. Staying focused and conscious about what you eat is the best thing...wraith5 said:
KTM
Braaaaaaaaaap
Maybe we can start a list of healthy stuff everyone's trying to eat. I find myself getting bored pretty quickly with what I'm eating. Everything you've listed is basically what I eat but again, I get bored with it real quick.One thing I'll throw in is Salmon. Tastes amazing and is a great source of protein.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Poppa - great post on the grazing ("eat like an elk"). I like to eat a pretty big breakfast, and then watch it throughout the day - mid-morning snack, decent lunch, mid-afternoon snack, moderate dinner, maybe small snack around 8:00 p.m. Grapes are nice for snacking, since it takes some time to eat through a bunch. I like to have a banana most days. Keys, as noted, are getting in the protein and keeping up on the fluids.
The weight-loss benefit from running/training, I find, tends to occur when the miles get higher ...when I'm out running for an hour or more, or biking for a couple hours or more. That's when the body really seems to burn off some fat - and when I can eat more without consequence for my weight. I wouldn't guess that a number of 2 - 4 mile runs will do a lot for weight loss. I think running is deceptive that way: We hear ourselves breathing hard and feel the sweat, so we think we must really be burning the calories. Not necessarily!
Rusty - If you guys picked Chicago as a "big" first marathon, then as noted, it can be a great race for that purpose. You're not looking for speed, so the crowded course won't be an issue, then. And the 'event' will help with the mental aspect. Go for it. The course is very, very flat as it weaves up and down downtown and the nearby neighborhoods. The most of a "hill" you'll see are the rises going over the expressways. Much of the race is within a half-mile of the lakefront, so the winds can be a factor - the trick will be determining what to wear (hat; gloves; short or long shirts/pants).
A good "pace" run today: 8 miles at 7:45/mile. Tomorrow's an 18 mile run. Hoping the Chicago temp at least gets above 40 degrees ...
The weight-loss benefit from running/training, I find, tends to occur when the miles get higher ...when I'm out running for an hour or more, or biking for a couple hours or more. That's when the body really seems to burn off some fat - and when I can eat more without consequence for my weight. I wouldn't guess that a number of 2 - 4 mile runs will do a lot for weight loss. I think running is deceptive that way: We hear ourselves breathing hard and feel the sweat, so we think we must really be burning the calories. Not necessarily!
Rusty - If you guys picked Chicago as a "big" first marathon, then as noted, it can be a great race for that purpose. You're not looking for speed, so the crowded course won't be an issue, then. And the 'event' will help with the mental aspect. Go for it. The course is very, very flat as it weaves up and down downtown and the nearby neighborhoods. The most of a "hill" you'll see are the rises going over the expressways. Much of the race is within a half-mile of the lakefront, so the winds can be a factor - the trick will be determining what to wear (hat; gloves; short or long shirts/pants).
A good "pace" run today: 8 miles at 7:45/mile. Tomorrow's an 18 mile run. Hoping the Chicago temp at least gets above 40 degrees ...
El Floppo
Footballguy
re: Grazing... just make sure you set aside predetermined amount to graze on. I use snack-sized zip-locks. I was finding that I just keep on eating if I don't do it that way.
And Tri-man mirrors my experience... the fat burn happens somewhere after an hour of cardio... especially if you don't follow that up with lots of calories in bars/drinks/meals afterwards. Little bit of protein and cals (glass of Endurox) after worked best for me.
And Tri-man mirrors my experience... the fat burn happens somewhere after an hour of cardio... especially if you don't follow that up with lots of calories in bars/drinks/meals afterwards. Little bit of protein and cals (glass of Endurox) after worked best for me.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Nice!!
-OZ-
Footballguy
I prefer to take a day off on each side of my long runs, but that's a great pace.Do you think it's better to run 5-8 the day before your long run? I didn't try it until today, but it worked as I ran 5 yesterday on a 7:30 clip, and went 17 today at a 8:12 pace. I was surprised at how good most of the run felt.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
This marathon training is new to me, but the Hal Higdon model structures Saturdays as good mileage days, often at pace, followed by the Sunday long run. I'd say the idea is that if you're doing most of your long training runs after a rather strong day (so with slightly tired legs), then come race time, you'll be running great on fresh legs! Looks like your times are similar to mine. Can we both admit to having an eye on the Boston qualifying time (for me, it's 3:35:59 ...about an 8:13/mile)? I shouldn't think that way since I'm in tri-training, too, but still ...
El Floppo
Footballguy
This marathon training is new to me, but the Hal Higdon model structures Saturdays as good mileage days, often at pace, followed by the Sunday long run. I'd say the idea is that if you're doing most of your long training runs after a rather strong day (so with slightly tired legs), then come race time, you'll be running great on fresh legs! Looks like your times are similar to mine. Can we both admit to having an eye on the Boston qualifying time (for me, it's 3:35:59 ...about an 8:13/mile)? I shouldn't think that way since I'm in tri-training, too, but still ...
Just wanna make sure Melvin isn't around... but you guys are frigging rock-stars! Hey Tri-Man- is this marathon a stepping stone on your way to an IM?
tri-man 47
Footballguy
El Floppo ...yes, it is. I did a 1/2-IM last summer (5:55). But I don't want to consider stepping up to an IM if I can't approach with some sense that it's achievable. So I figured I should run a marathon to ensure that I can do it with good control and then another 1/2-IM ...and then decide on the IM. Since the midwest IM's (Wisconsin; Louisville (new)) fill up fast in the fall, that's what has forced me into a spring marathon (and winter training). I can decide after my August 1/2-IM about the full IM for fall, 2008.
So far, so good. The extra miles of the marathon training have gone very well and definitely built up my legs. I realize that I've spent many, many years relying on my long stride and running history to carry me through the triathlon runs without much heavy training. These past fews months have really given me a much stronger base for the endurance runs.
So far, so good. The extra miles of the marathon training have gone very well and definitely built up my legs. I realize that I've spent many, many years relying on my long stride and running history to carry me through the triathlon runs without much heavy training. These past fews months have really given me a much stronger base for the endurance runs.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Sounds like a great plan! I really wish I had done a marathon before doing my one and only IM... my one and only marathon was part of that IM... it wasn't pretty. I thought I was going to do NYC marathon the fall before, but I didn't get in, and I was already heavily into the IM training. There's something about IM training that seems easier to me than marathon training- primarily mixing up the workouts. WTF am I talking about... the IM training kicked my ### (and broke my foot). Not sure If I'm going to get back into racing or not- mostly the urban training thing, which it sounds like you can understand. Risking life and limb just to get to my workout everyday got pretty old, especially after some limb and life breaking accidents.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
Be sure to put your name on the front of whatever shirt/jersey you decide to wear. It's a tremendous boost to hear people cheering for you by name.Wear clothing in layers. Go down to Goodwill and get something you don't mind getting rid of. Start stripping off layers as you get warm and throw 'em to the side (make sure it's off the course so you're not interferring with another runner). Many races collect these clothes and give 'em to charity. However, be sure to train in these clothes. Never try anything new on race day (that includes gels, sports drink, clothing, etc).As things spread out and people get into their grooves (and especially in the later stages of the race), start making friends with people at your pace. Encourage each other. It helps just as much as the cheering crowd.
Poppa
Footballguy
My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
El Floppo
Footballguy
My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
You ultra marathoners... zounds.I am really envious of your trail running. I started running almost as an extension of getting out somewhere beautiful while working out. Sadly, running on trails in Central Park is more likely to turn up male hookers than a good workout.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
There used to be a trail marathon in the White Mountains of Arizona, but I guess it folded. :( Website shows 2005 info.My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
I am really envious of your trail running. I started running almost as an extension of getting out somewhere beautiful while working out. Sadly, running on trails in Central Park is more likely to turn up male hookers than a good workout.
El Floppo
Footballguy
There's a great race just north of San Francisco called the Dipsea (really old race) where it's predominantly on crazy trails running over and down a small mountain (I'd guess 2k+ feet vertical). The main race is 7+ miles, but they do a double (out and back- 15+miles) and a QUAD (out, back, out, back- 30+ miles) for the purely nutso. Other cool thing is that it's handicapped, so it's usually won by a child or old person (who still go pretty fast).There used to be a trail marathon in the White Mountains of Arizona, but I guess it folded. :( Website shows 2005 info.My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
I am really envious of your trail running. I started running almost as an extension of getting out somewhere beautiful while working out. Sadly, running on trails in Central Park is more likely to turn up male hookers than a good workout.
Poppa
Footballguy
I am very, very fortunate...in that I live only 10 minutes away from Purdue's Cross-Country training course.Do you remember the story last year of the fella that ran 50 Marathons in 50 days? He ran one down around Bloomington...described thusly:My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
I am really envious of your trail running. I started running almost as an extension of getting out somewhere beautiful while working out. Sadly, running on trails in Central Park is more likely to turn up male hookers than a good workout.
Tecumseh Trail Marathon, Indiana
Number of Runners: 55 (filled to capacity)
Elevation: 591’
Time: 4:45:21
Weather: 44 degrees, partly cloudy
Hardcore. That’s the best way to describe today’s marathon. Along with the 3,500 feet of climbing, most of the course was on technical single-track trail, with numerous stream crossings, hordes of logs and branches to climb over and navigate around, deep pocket of mud, slippery rocks, and gnarled tree roots hiding silently under thick canopies of fallen leaves.
The switchbacks were difficult to follow, and if you looked up for a trail marker, it was easy to stumble and fall, which many people did, including yours truly (multiple times, in fact). A lot of the runners were cut and scratched from falling or getting snagged on the thorny bushes that we passed through. I’ve spent some time on the trails over the years, and this trail run was as challenging as any.
Arriving at the start this morning was surreal. We were miles from the nearest town, out on a desolate roadway, and there were fifty-five beaming runners raring to go, fourteen of whom had never run a marathon before. Other than the couple of runners who had been here before, I’m not sure many of us had any idea what we were in for. After starting on our way, the course almost immediately hit single-track trail, and within a mile I had an inclination that this was going to be an interesting and different sort of day. My expectations were fulfilled.
There were very few sections along this course that were flat. You were either climbing or descending the entire way. Most of the route was in thick foliage, making it sometimes difficult to see ahead, and the trail was covered in leaves, compounding the navigational complexities. We traversed countless switchbacks, some ascending and some descending, and skirted several creeks and ravines. At a number of points we got lost and had to retrace our steps to get back on the path.
Yet for all the challenges, the setting was absolutely beautiful. Running on trails refreshes the senses; being out in nature renews the mind, body, and spirit. Today was about enjoying the elements and the wonders of the natural world. The colors of the leaves, the smells of earth and of the water, the sunlight streaming through the trees, and the crackle of twigs underfoot were all engaging and invigorating. It was impossible not to get swept up in it, even after miles of running.
When we finally did cross the finish line, my GPS read 27.5 miles. Those couple wrong turns added a bit of distance, so today was the first “ultramarathon” of the Endurance 50. But it was also a day I will never forget, especially for those first-time marathoners that made it. I couldn’t even imagine tackling this course as your first marathon. Your second will feel like a walk in the park.
At the finish, when we didn’t have to worry about tripping over branches, I was able to chat more freely with the other runners. The group today was comprised of some truly amazing people. A father/daughter running team, a professional golfer elated to have finished his first marathon, a state Superintendent of Schools, and a gentleman who couldn’t run a mile a year ago and had lost 100 lbs and completed his first marathon today.
Many, if not most, were scratched and scrapped from the trail. But, remarkably, I did not hear one complaint from the group, not so much as even the slightest hint at a gripe. On the contrary, people were incredibly thankful and gracious for the extraordinary adventure we shared together. They were nothing but smiles and compliments, despite the cuts, lacerations, and muscle cramps. If I could somehow bottle all this positive energy and spread it around the globe, the world would be a better place.
All the best from the trails of Indiana,
Dean
We ran a race on the same course in early December...in unforgettable beauty, mud and cold. I drug my a## in 6 1/2 hours later - with my wife greeting me at the finish line at dusk!
(thank you, dear!)Instantly a classic, in my book!
Best of luck to each of you in training to meet your running and fitness goals! You guys rock!
-OZ-
Footballguy
My running nirvana - Trail running!
I'm old and slow and in the woods for hours...but it makes no difference. The joy of running is multiplied 10-fold on the trails. Every step requires heightened awareness. Ones entire body is in tune - with itself and it's surroundings. DO NOT turn down the opportunity to run off-road! Next up...Dances with Dirt - Indiana. A 50k entirely in the woods...Man, am I stoked!!
http://www.danceswithdirt.com/indiana/inde...ge&Itemid=1
Scared too...
I love running in the woods. There aren't enough trails here.50k = 31 Miles... I've ran a few marathons, but the extra 5, plus the added work of the trail
-OZ-
Footballguy
Honestly, never crossed my mind during this train-up. I don't think I'd be able to make it to Boston anyway, but now you've put a goal in my head.This marathon training is new to me, but the Hal Higdon model structures Saturdays as good mileage days, often at pace, followed by the Sunday long run. I'd say the idea is that if you're doing most of your long training runs after a rather strong day (so with slightly tired legs), then come race time, you'll be running great on fresh legs! Looks like your times are similar to mine. Can we both admit to having an eye on the Boston qualifying time (for me, it's 3:35:59 ...about an 8:13/mile)? I shouldn't think that way since I'm in tri-training, too, but still ...
I hit a 3:43:25 over a year ago. I'm just hoping to beat that this time. I suppose 3:35 is doable.Was able to run today after the Mrs. got home and relieved me of kid duty for a while. I ran 3.5 miles on the treadmill. It went by really fast today and was by far the easiest I have done 3.5 yet. I thought I was in trouble when my radio battery went dead 8 minutes in, but the last 10 minutes of the A&M/Louisville game needed no sound. That was a great distraction mentally. If I can get another run in tomorrow I think after my days off I will try to go up to 4 miles. Nice to be back on track. Soon I hope to start running outside.Take the kids to the local high school track with you. Bring some dog collars and leashes, and stake 'em out at the 50yd line. Run a few miles on the track, and you're golden.
My iPod battery went dead about 3 miles into my 5 mile run on Thursday. I've never run without my tunes so the last 2 miles were tough, but I managed to go the distance. Never again will I run without checking the charge in my battery first!
wraith5
Footballguy
Did 6 outside (47:58) in the new 6's this morning and went back for the second pair this afternoonSweet deal! I hope the shoes work well for you. I will test mine again tomorrow morning, and if that goes well I'll go get a second pair in the afternoon, too.Got me a pair of 6s.Yeah, looks like the 6 is SO last month.
Two good pair for $100 when I usually pay $130 for one pair...RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
I did 10k on a hill course this morning (thought I already posted this). I should have gotten up earlier, cuz it was freakin' hot. 66mins, mostly uphill coming back (agh!!!), but very little I-T problems. It was on a paved road, mostly flat (a few banked curves). I'll take it.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
My wife and I lived in Lafayette for five years while I was in grad school (away from campus, at an apartment complex on Creasy Lane). I didn't run with any level of seriousness then, but yeah there are a bunch of awesome routes out there.
Poppa
Footballguy
Izzat so? Would only wish for more hills nearby. But...ya takes what you can get, and overall I got it pretty good. :(
RustyFA
Footballguy
Thanks for the advice guys. I guess the biggest reason we chose the Chicago Marathon is because we have absolutley no clue what we are doing. I will get the extra clothes and take your advice on those.A question. My wife bought me a long sleeve Under Armour shirt that is loose on me. Should I return it and get something tight? I imagine I will be wearing his or the replacement in the race so I don't want chafing etc.I ran 14.8 miles last week in 4 runs. Averaging 9:30 minute miles. Not great but I'm not doing ti for speed.
RoarinSonoran
Footballguy
I had planned to check the date for the Chicago Marathon (October 7th!) in order to see what average weather would be BEFORE I made that post, but I spaced it off. Now that I've checked, I'm not so sure that you'd even need to wear much more than shorts and a tshirt. Of course, weather can change in an instant, and you should prepare for that, but I'm thinking it'll be great running weather by then. Other "tricks" include wearing a trashbag at the start area to keep warm pre-race, then tear it off once you get going after the gun goes off. At PF Chang's two months ago (two months have gone by ALREADY??!!
), I kept my jacket on before the gun (~30degrees!! :brr: ) and then handed it off to my wife just after crossing the start line. You have six months, so don't stress too much about it right now.As for the Under Armour, I couldn't tell ya. I'm just a simple tshirt guy. Wear it on a few long runs and see if it bugs you loose. If so, wash it in hot water and maybe it'll shrink, hit the gym and [ahnuld]puhmp yoo uhp[/ahnuld] until it fits 
, or buy a tighter one. As I said above, you have six months, so go ahead and experiment. As for chafing, Bodyglide is your friend (and that includes your nipples).
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'd lean toward returning it for a tighter fit. Having the right shirt as a base will be helpful. Take note of what your clothing priorities are - when do you start to wear gloves or a hat, when do you switch to short-sleeve vs long-sleeve, do you like running shorts or long tights, etc.
And while I also like BodyGlide, I gotta say that for my longer runs, I just band-aid the nippples.
This is getting interesting as the group starts to increase distances and as race schedules start to take shape!
And while I also like BodyGlide, I gotta say that for my longer runs, I just band-aid the nippples.
This is getting interesting as the group starts to increase distances and as race schedules start to take shape!
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MelvinTScupper
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5 more today
I haven't had any experience with chafing yet, but I have heard that New Skin is a great solution if you're having problems with chaffed nipples. They also sell "Nip Guards" but I would think generic bangages would be cheaper.
Good job today
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MelvinTScupper
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5 is the trouble number. Now that I'm past that, should be good to go.
I hear you there. I did my first 6 mile run last Sunday and another today. Next week I'll be up to 7 for my long run, so things are starting to escalate into uncharted territory.Are you training for a specific event or just getting in shape?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I did 16 yesterday. It was terrible.
Theres a 3 1/4 mile loop around campus that I like to run when the weather is nice, so I started off with that. The problem is that we were getting ~30 mph winds, so no matter what I did I was stuck running into that headwind for a significant distance. I found that it also bothered me as a crosswind, since it would tend to lean to compensate for the wind and thus screw up my form. So after 9.75 miles, I decided to go inside and run on the track.
The first 3 miles on the track felt great. Too great. I ran way too fast, with my first track mile coming in at 8:30, at least one full minute faster than what I should be training at. I slowed down somewhat, but about halfway through mile 15 my energy level plummetted and it was all I could do to finish the last mile.
I suppose if it had been a race day where I was more highly motivated and had somebody to pace off of, I could have done maybe another couple of miles, but if it had been marathon day this defnitely would have been a DNF. That's very discouraging because I did 15 a week ago with no problems. I can't wait for my long run this weekend to redeem myself.
Theres a 3 1/4 mile loop around campus that I like to run when the weather is nice, so I started off with that. The problem is that we were getting ~30 mph winds, so no matter what I did I was stuck running into that headwind for a significant distance. I found that it also bothered me as a crosswind, since it would tend to lean to compensate for the wind and thus screw up my form. So after 9.75 miles, I decided to go inside and run on the track.
The first 3 miles on the track felt great. Too great. I ran way too fast, with my first track mile coming in at 8:30, at least one full minute faster than what I should be training at. I slowed down somewhat, but about halfway through mile 15 my energy level plummetted and it was all I could do to finish the last mile.
I suppose if it had been a race day where I was more highly motivated and had somebody to pace off of, I could have done maybe another couple of miles, but if it had been marathon day this defnitely would have been a DNF. That's very discouraging because I did 15 a week ago with no problems. I can't wait for my long run this weekend to redeem myself.
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