JShare87
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I agree, the difference is ridiculous. You probably went out this morning without gloves! No clue how you train in that everyday.
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SteelCurtain
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Negative test has been received. My cross country trip a couple days ago was not a COVID induced experience.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I think this is where I'm zeroing in on.tri-man 47 said:
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I appreciate your confidence, but I'm definitely not in sub 3 shape. I'm not going to even try. My PR in the half is 1:31, so I'm not about to go out start tossing down 6:50 miles to start the marathon.
Lots at play as I approach this marathon and zero in on my time.
Please realize this is somewhere around marathon 22-24 for me (I lost count and need to go back and recount at some point). The quick and obvious performance gains have already been accounted for in previous races. At Indy in 2019, I felt like I ran the perfect marathon with pacing and fueling, etc......and I ran a 3:12:43. It was just over a 2 minute PR. Here it is, 2 years later, the first real race in 2 years, I'm traveling across 9 time zones in a week's time to get myself to London, its a large race (with tons of logistics concerns.....this is more like NYC than Chicago in terms of getting to the start. But its worse, because I need to take the train out there, so I envision standing on a train packed with people for 30-45 minutes.) Weather forecast is looking like temp around 60 with a headwind of 15 mph. And @MAC_32 acknowledged that this week has been totally stressful (work is insane, kids are needy, wife has things she needs me to do around the house since I traveled last week and my mother in law is visiting this week). And to top it all off, my wife is going on this trip, which is generally cool, but she is not going to want me laying around for 3 days before the race. I told her I'd go to some museum she wants to see on Friday.
I'd love to try to go out and blast it out, but I think I'm going to go out around a more conservative, but still PR pace, and see how it goes. I'd be absoultely ecstatic with a 3 minute PR considering everything.
I fly out tonight (and will get another 4 hours of sleep....which has been the average this week.) Its 4 a.m. right now and I'm heading into work shortly to get some things done before I run home and pack up my stuff (haven't had time so nothing is packed yet for this trip) and then head to the airport. Might do a quick run if there is any time. We will see.
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SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Part of me is trying to get on London time. Problem is kids are on NY time so i stay up late and get up early.
taking Tylenol PM to UK with me to hopefully give me a couple days of decent sleep. Hopefully.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
@SteelCurtain’s life right now - work stress; home life stress; travel stress; pre-race stress. But he takes time for several FBG postings. Here’s a guy who has his priorities in order. 
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
To make this all work, 5 COVID tests this week. All scheduled out. Insanity.@SteelCurtain’s life right now - work stress; home life stress; travel stress; pre-race stress. But he takes time for several FBG postings. Here’s a guy who has his priorities in order.
Well I can't "run" a 100 mile event on 5 weeks of training and 50 pounds overweight, but I did manage to get in 33 miles and wasn't DFL. Kind of surprised myself as my longest training run/walk was 12 miles and my longest run without walking was 10 miles which I just achieved 2-3 weeks ago. I did jog most of the first 26 miles, walking to eat and stopping to take some pics along the way. It was slow but felt good. The last 7 miles were a run/walk. I was ahead of my planned time by about an hour but bailed on my plan to do 50 miles. This event was a shuttle out, run back, run out, and run back. 33 put me right at my vehicle mid afternoon. 50 would have required bumming a ride back and traveling home late a night. Called it a fun day on the trail. Perfect day weather wise...a chilly 39 degrees at the start but warmer up to the mid 60s and was sunny with a very gentle head breeze.
*** Substitute jog, shuffle, or muddle anywhere I wrote run.
Good news is the aches and pains are totally gone and I can get back to getting into better shape.
Also LOL at the crushed it comment on the run Tuesday night. I was "pacing" a fast runner on my bike.
*** Substitute jog, shuffle, or muddle anywhere I wrote run.
Good news is the aches and pains are totally gone and I can get back to getting into better shape.
Also LOL at the crushed it comment on the run Tuesday night. I was "pacing" a fast runner on my bike.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Fun with arbitrary dates.
Due to burnout I was initially (just a little!) bummed to see I'm going to end up around 250-252 miles for September. The various goal plans I wrote up at the end of August net somewhere between 265 and 278 miles, so falling short was disappointing. That said, out of curiosity I scrolled over my excel doc to see how many miles I net over particular one month windows. If I use Aug 29 as the anchor date I net 274 miles. And if I use Aug 26 it's 282.
Happy I did that exercise because while I may not have met my calendar month goals ultimately I wanted to peak doing 270some miles in a month. And I did that. Onward!
Due to burnout I was initially (just a little!) bummed to see I'm going to end up around 250-252 miles for September. The various goal plans I wrote up at the end of August net somewhere between 265 and 278 miles, so falling short was disappointing. That said, out of curiosity I scrolled over my excel doc to see how many miles I net over particular one month windows. If I use Aug 29 as the anchor date I net 274 miles. And if I use Aug 26 it's 282.
Happy I did that exercise because while I may not have met my calendar month goals ultimately I wanted to peak doing 270some miles in a month. And I did that. Onward!
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
239 miles for September for me. That’s low for me for a marathon training month but OK all things considered.
I tried a mini-tempo this morning and was pleased that my body seemed to handle it decently. It felt nice to run fast again. I’ll try to run a weekly tempo and a fastish long run each week from here on out and hope for the best come race day. My fitness has taken a hit but the injuries make it hard to tell how much. My guess is it isn’t too bad.
I realized this morning that I’m over 300 miles in my racing shoes. I probably shouldn’t race the marathon in them. Maybe I should test a pair of Nikes.
I tried a mini-tempo this morning and was pleased that my body seemed to handle it decently. It felt nice to run fast again. I’ll try to run a weekly tempo and a fastish long run each week from here on out and hope for the best come race day. My fitness has taken a hit but the injuries make it hard to tell how much. My guess is it isn’t too bad.
I realized this morning that I’m over 300 miles in my racing shoes. I probably shouldn’t race the marathon in them. Maybe I should test a pair of Nikes.
Zasada
Footballguy
I know you didn't ask for advice, but the best I can give for getting over eastbound jet lag is to make sure you sleep on the flight over (even if it means depriving yourself the night before), and stay awake all day in the UK when you get there. Fight the urge to take a nap or go to bed abnormally early.
You should be good and tired then to hit the hay at normal UK time, and get right into the new time zone.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
July-Sept for me have been 238; 238; 236 miles ..although I had a week off in Sept while on the steroid for the poison ivy.
On another note, I saw that the end-of-October Marine Corps Marathon has been cancelled due to "safety and security" issues. I wonder if it was more about safety (COVID) or security (post-Jan 6 world).
On another note, I saw that the end-of-October Marine Corps Marathon has been cancelled due to "safety and security" issues. I wonder if it was more about safety (COVID) or security (post-Jan 6 world).
El Floppo
Footballguy
safety, IMO. I don't think the marathon is going to be a big antifa/right-wing nutjob focal point.
gruecd
Footballguy
gruecd
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Has someone already compiled a list of everyone running Indy? I'm not gonna be able to stick around long after the race (catching a flight to KC for Packers/Chiefs the next day that just got moved up from 7:11 to 3:46pm), but I think it would be cool if we could all get together for dinner on Friday. Once I get a head count, I can make a reservation for everyone who'd like to join. Let me know.
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pbm107
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I'll be there and my sister (who is running and invited herself, hopefully that isn't an issue). Count us both for dinner, I think you meant Friday night. My flight back isn't until Sunday morning so I'm hoping a bunch of us will be around for beers on Saturday.
According to the FBG race calendar we should have a good size group.
gruecd
Footballguy
Sounds good, and yeah, I meant dinner on Friday. I edited my post, but not until after you'd already quoted it.
I'm still looking around, but the menu in the hotel restaurant actually looks pretty solid: OP Italian
pbm107
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
This place actually looks better (bigger portions, too), but it's 1.2 miles from the JW. I personally like doing a little easy walking the night before a race, but I don't know how everyone else feels: Iozzo's Garden of Italy
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Juxtatarot will be present. I should arrive Friday afternoon and will leave Sunday morning. Either restaurant will be fine although I will annoyingly ask the server for low sodium meal options.
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gianmarco
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gruecd
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gianmarco
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bushdocda
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In for Friday night. As of now my flight is moved earlier and I’ll land around 11am.
Stinks they moved that game up.
gruecd
Footballguy
The Iguana
Footballguy
So... miss me? I have been a slacker again, but I did do a thing today. Not sure what my official time will be but my watch time is 1:56:47 for the Fort Ben half marathon today.
Set my PR here 2 years ago of 1:38
x - i.e. something just under 1:39. Anyway, it's a start for the monumental. Hoping I can do something close to 1:45 there and run about 7 miles with the stud guy that I think is pacing the 3:30 full group.
Set my PR here 2 years ago of 1:38
x - i.e. something just under 1:39. Anyway, it's a start for the monumental. Hoping I can do something close to 1:45 there and run about 7 miles with the stud guy that I think is pacing the 3:30 full group.
The Iguana
Footballguy
And I should be in for dinner. Might have a +1 but not sure.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Will also be around after for awhile but have a fundraiser thing to go to that night.
gruecd
Footballguy
It was a hard decision, but I came to the conclusion this morning that I'm not going to run Boston after all.
No matter how "easy" I'd run it, I'm just not fit enough to run that particular course without turning Indy into a sufferfest. On top of that, I've got a couple of niggles that I can tell are on the cusp of becoming real injuries if I push it. Definitely not an easy decision to make, but I think the right one.
And adding insult to injury, I already gave away my NLDS tickets for Saturday night.
No matter how "easy" I'd run it, I'm just not fit enough to run that particular course without turning Indy into a sufferfest. On top of that, I've got a couple of niggles that I can tell are on the cusp of becoming real injuries if I push it. Definitely not an easy decision to make, but I think the right one.
And adding insult to injury, I already gave away my NLDS tickets for Saturday night.
MAC_32
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It's the right move. Give Indy the best shot you got then you'll look back at this decision fondly.It was a hard decision, but I came to the conclusion this morning that I'm not going to run Boston after all.
No matter how "easy" I'd run it, I'm just not fit enough to run that particular course without turning Indy into a sufferfest. On top of that, I've got a couple of niggles that I can tell are on the cusp of becoming real injuries if I push it. Definitely not an easy decision to make, but I think the right one.
And adding insult to injury, I already gave away my NLDS tickets for Saturday night.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Hopefully this only stews for a few days, but I really crashed and burned this week. I intended to take the foot off the gas, but this basically turned into a taper week. I ended up doing a bell curve workout Tuesday along with a couple 600's at XC practice that night (calves tightened so I tapped out), but I have been a mess since then. Ended up doing three straight days of 4-5 miles between 8:40 and 9:08 pace because my HR was consistently in the upper 130's. I was seeing a lot of 150something HR's on today's long then I got to the water fountains mile 13 only to realize they're off for the season. It all went to hell thereafter. Couldn't consume any more calories without fluids then I realized my heel was also bleeding sometime during mile 15. Decided to shut it down at 16 then jog home.
Gotta recalibrate and see if I can get my body right to net some benefit out of the stretch between mid week and 10 days out from the race.
Gotta recalibrate and see if I can get my body right to net some benefit out of the stretch between mid week and 10 days out from the race.
bushdocda
Footballguy
London marathon has an app. Our guy is 54605.
This might also work
https://results.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2021/?pid=leaderboard&pidp=leaderboard_nav
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SteelCurtain
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Thanks bud!
So, I think the only way to track is on the London Marathon app. (Annoying that you need to download it.) My bib# is 54605.
I will be starting at 4:40 a.m.-ish ET.
The plan is to do mile 1 at 7:45 pace. Mile 2 at 7:30 pace. Then get into my race pace. Get to the half at 1:34:40 to 1:35:00. Then run a 7:15 pace to mile 21-22. After that, go empty the tank and see what I've got in me.
PR is 3:12:43 and I'll be quite disappointed if I don't set one tomorrow. Temps look to start in low 50's and climb to low 60's. Mix of sun and clouds. I've decided I will wear a shirt for the first 6-7 miles and then take the shirt off and run shirtless the rest of the way. The bib attached to the shorts is a relative first for me for the marathon, but I think it will be ok.
Thanks for all your guys support. Can't wait to see many of you in Indy in another month! (Still need to book my flight!)
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I'm in for Friday night dinner. I vote going off site for dinner. As someone who travels regularly, its tough to get a great dinner at a hotel restaurant and often the cost is 1.5-2 times higher by eating at the hotel.
On another note, disappointed you won't be in Boston or Saturday night in Indy. Booooooooo.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Can't wait to see you crush this like you've been crushing your training.
Run Forrest, run!
Zasada
Footballguy
Zasada
Footballguy
Well la di da, I'm going to run a half marathon basically untrained and oh look I ran sub-2hr which other people train for months to do and now I'm probably going to sit on my butt again for the next two months and then run sub-4 at Monumental and not really care about it so just delete it from my watch and then have some beers with some dudes from the innerwebs and be like "I'm just here for the LOLz" and then post on the innerwebs once every month "oh are you guys still doing that training thing, it's for newbs, you should try my method of hitting your goals running untrained and it's soooo easy"...
Kidding aside, you are incredible. If you put some effort in, you could totally go sub-90. It's amazing what you can do with so little mileage!
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Zasada
Footballguy
I'm booked at the Marriott Fri-Sun. Don't have flights yet, but I'll have to be flexible depending on work stuff that Friday. Every hope of making dinner, but won't know until closer-in.
Regarding the race itself, I still plan to run/walk the full. I'm not excited for the race at all, only to hang out with you guys and see you crush your goals. Maybe the former will change as we get closer.
My leg is still bothering me, but it's not getting any worse with the volume/nature of my running lately. Kind of a static, low-level suck. Been trying to favour the trails (vs streets) whenever I can, to keep it from getting worse. I'm nowhere near my April fitness, unfortunately, but slowly working my way back. I did well on my stress test on Wednesday, going over a minute longer than I did last November. Today, I had a second-best time on my standard mountain climb, although that PR is quite stale (compared to my April fitness).
Anyways, my whole point is that I'm looking forward to meeting you guys and will do my best to make dinner. Will definitely be around for beers on Saturday night.
pbm107
Footballguy
Try not to worry about this one too much, I am guessing you were dehydrated. Congrats on making it to the taper, and focus on getting healthy. Take today as a reminder to hydrate early on race day.
pbm107
Footballguy
What is your nutrition plan for tomorrow? I was reading your Monumental Marathon race report and saw that you ate 2 bananas during the race. Are you going to do something similar?
OrganizedChaos
Footballguy
Urban Cow 5K Race Report (kind of)
Finally got back to participating in a race today (first one in two years). Felt really good to be back out there again.
This was the first race I used the workout feature and put in target ranges for the duration. Made it easier (somewhat) to stay in my target range.
Mile 1 – Target 7:58 – 8:08 Actual 8:09
Okay this mile was a mess. I went out way too fast for the first ¼ to ½ mile. Kept slowing down until I got around my target (seemed like it took forever to slow down). Thought I had only gone slightly above my target range and because of my early pace would still finish in my target but as you can see I failed here.
Mile 2 – Target 7:55 – 8:05 Actual 8:02
I was concerned how fast I went out to start was going to come back to bite me at some point but was determined to pick things up and was able to find a spot in my range and stay on track.
Mile 3 – Target 7:50 – 8:00 Actual 7:53
I wanted to step it up in mile 3. Never really expected to go this fast but I was feeling pretty good.
Finish – Target 7:30 – 7:45 Actual 6:41
I sped up a little as I passed the mile 3 marker. At some there was someone yelling 100 yards to go. Said what the hell and reached down for whatever I had left. Was not going to fail then and did not want to end up a few seconds out of place in my division (has happened before) so I went into an all out sprint.
Overall – 7:58 pace
This was a PR for me. Just finished out of placing (4 of 22) in my age group.
The last few months I bounced around trying to find something that worked for me in increasing my speed. Intervals just weren’t working for me and was concerned I would get to race day and still have no idea how fast I could go for 3 miles. Settled into doing once a week a half mile warmup, 3 miles at 5K pace and then a half mile cool down. That seemed to work as I was able to know what I could do and kept pushing a little harder each week. I have one more race in two weeks and after that may look to change up training aiming toward the spring. Really want to get my times down to 7:30 or lower per mile. I think I can do it. Believe I am still leaving too much out there. May try giving intervals another shot.
My next race will be interesting. Start and finish lines are in different spots. Due to Covid they may not have their buses going so I might have to walk/jog three miles from the finish to the start before the race. Good thing is I will then know the course really well. Bad thing is that is a lot more work than I want to do before the race starts and will have to head out very early to get started.
Thanks everyone for all of your input in this forum. I definitely need to participate more.
Good luck tomorrow @SteelCurtain.
Finally got back to participating in a race today (first one in two years). Felt really good to be back out there again.
This was the first race I used the workout feature and put in target ranges for the duration. Made it easier (somewhat) to stay in my target range.
Mile 1 – Target 7:58 – 8:08 Actual 8:09
Okay this mile was a mess. I went out way too fast for the first ¼ to ½ mile. Kept slowing down until I got around my target (seemed like it took forever to slow down). Thought I had only gone slightly above my target range and because of my early pace would still finish in my target but as you can see I failed here.
Mile 2 – Target 7:55 – 8:05 Actual 8:02
I was concerned how fast I went out to start was going to come back to bite me at some point but was determined to pick things up and was able to find a spot in my range and stay on track.
Mile 3 – Target 7:50 – 8:00 Actual 7:53
I wanted to step it up in mile 3. Never really expected to go this fast but I was feeling pretty good.
Finish – Target 7:30 – 7:45 Actual 6:41
I sped up a little as I passed the mile 3 marker. At some there was someone yelling 100 yards to go. Said what the hell and reached down for whatever I had left. Was not going to fail then and did not want to end up a few seconds out of place in my division (has happened before) so I went into an all out sprint.
Overall – 7:58 pace
This was a PR for me. Just finished out of placing (4 of 22) in my age group.
The last few months I bounced around trying to find something that worked for me in increasing my speed. Intervals just weren’t working for me and was concerned I would get to race day and still have no idea how fast I could go for 3 miles. Settled into doing once a week a half mile warmup, 3 miles at 5K pace and then a half mile cool down. That seemed to work as I was able to know what I could do and kept pushing a little harder each week. I have one more race in two weeks and after that may look to change up training aiming toward the spring. Really want to get my times down to 7:30 or lower per mile. I think I can do it. Believe I am still leaving too much out there. May try giving intervals another shot.
My next race will be interesting. Start and finish lines are in different spots. Due to Covid they may not have their buses going so I might have to walk/jog three miles from the finish to the start before the race. Good thing is I will then know the course really well. Bad thing is that is a lot more work than I want to do before the race starts and will have to head out very early to get started.
Thanks everyone for all of your input in this forum. I definitely need to participate more.
Good luck tomorrow @SteelCurtain.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Preparation was horrible - stress, food, water, even an unusually horrible night of sleep mid week. Gotta get work under control during the taper, so it isn't a factor come race day.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Thanks. I would like to get sub 1:30. Need to find the motivation to run consistently... hoping to give it a go in the spring if I can get myself moving from now till then but it's hard some times.Zasada said:
The one big thing you missed in the "la di da"... I decided a while ago that I am just planning to do the half at the Monumental. I haven't officially changed my registration but will be doing so this week - there's no chance I could run a sub 4 marathon. I might not be able to walk for a week if I even tried! A month or so ago, I realized I was neither remotely mentally nor physically prepared to really try to do a full right now. I figured I could gut out a couple of HM's and hopefully rekindle the fire to get consistent heading into the winter and give it all another go next year.
The run today reminded me why I would really, really, really like to get out there consistently. I do love this stuff! Just have to develop some better habits! My hips ache pretty good right now, however. Heading out the door right after send to attend a wedding. Looking forward to the open bar afterwards to lube up the hips and get to feeling better!
