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@SteelCurtain
You earned every moment out there. And we joke about you being the old man, but what you do out there at your age is truly inspiring and....ageless. So happy for you.
I wondered when I saw his map yesterday wtf they sent him in almost a straight line for 9+ miles then uncorked those shenanigans over the last mile. Jerks cost him 59!!!
I remember during the Carmel Marathon somewhere around mile 19 where clearly they had to add the .2 somewhere on the course. So right in this long straightaway you had to turn right and run a little bit down this side road and do an immediate turnaround to go back the main straightaway.
Not sure yet. Will depend on how the finish is set up. But hopefully will be able to get pics of you guys closer to the end and be able to run to the other side of the finish in time to get another pic after crossing the line. Still up in the air and I'll work on it once I see the layout.
I was thinking more time goal - you are running the half, right?gianmarco said:
5 days until race day.
I'm still feeling run down and my breathing not 100%. V02 max is down to 50 from 56
This thing is going to be a disaster time wise versus what I was shooting for...but I already knew that. I was hoping to still get in at sub 4 hours, but I ran 15 at that pace a week ago and it wasnt as good as I had hoped (HR not at all what I wanted). We are also unseasonably warm by 10-15 degrees.
Not tons working in my favor, but I'm still going to give it a go. I didnt train for 20 weeks to sit on the sideline. My thought is to start at like a 9:30 pace and just go from there. If things are clicking with HR and weather, I'll try to get that to 8:50 and hope for the sub 4 hour. If the whole thing is a disaster, I can bail where the HM ends. But, for me to bail out before 20 miles would take something really wrong happening.
I'm going to be slow and I may have to walk, but I'm going to do my best to finish this thing
I hate reading this. It sucks any time you prepare for a race and things get derailed.5 days until race day.
I'm still feeling run down and my breathing not 100%. V02 max is down to 50 from 56
This thing is going to be a disaster time wise versus what I was shooting for...but I already knew that. I was hoping to still get in at sub 4 hours, but I ran 15 at that pace a week ago and it wasnt as good as I had hoped (HR not at all what I wanted). We are also unseasonably warm by 10-15 degrees.
Not tons working in my favor, but I'm still going to give it a go. I didnt train for 20 weeks to sit on the sideline. My thought is to start at like a 9:30 pace and just go from there. If things are clicking with HR and weather, I'll try to get that to 8:50 and hope for the sub 4 hour. If the whole thing is a disaster, I can bail where the HM ends. But, for me to bail out before 20 miles would take something really wrong happening.
I'm going to be slow and I may have to walk, but I'm going to do my best to finish this thing
I understand the thought of putting the time in and not wanting to throw in the towel, but I really don’t think you should run. The time you put in before you got sick clearly built a good fitness foundation. I think you can get back to that 56 VO2Max real quick. Why not look for another marathon a few weeks or a month out. Continue to put in some work to get back to where you were. More experienced people can agree or disagree with me, but you don’t want your first marathon to be a terrible experience. I’m pulling for you either way!5 days until race day.
I'm still feeling run down and my breathing not 100%. V02 max is down to 50 from 56
This thing is going to be a disaster time wise versus what I was shooting for...but I already knew that. I was hoping to still get in at sub 4 hours, but I ran 15 at that pace a week ago and it wasnt as good as I had hoped (HR not at all what I wanted). We are also unseasonably warm by 10-15 degrees.
Not tons working in my favor, but I'm still going to give it a go. I didnt train for 20 weeks to sit on the sideline. My thought is to start at like a 9:30 pace and just go from there. If things are clicking with HR and weather, I'll try to get that to 8:50 and hope for the sub 4 hour. If the whole thing is a disaster, I can bail where the HM ends. But, for me to bail out before 20 miles would take something really wrong happening.
I'm going to be slow and I may have to walk, but I'm going to do my best to finish this thing
Any specific tie to that race not to push out a few weeks to another race to get a bit more physical recovery? I’m sure you weighed the options but have to ask.5 days until race day.
I'm still feeling run down and my breathing not 100%. V02 max is down to 50 from 56
This thing is going to be a disaster time wise versus what I was shooting for...but I already knew that. I was hoping to still get in at sub 4 hours, but I ran 15 at that pace a week ago and it wasnt as good as I had hoped (HR not at all what I wanted). We are also unseasonably warm by 10-15 degrees.
Not tons working in my favor, but I'm still going to give it a go. I didnt train for 20 weeks to sit on the sideline. My thought is to start at like a 9:30 pace and just go from there. If things are clicking with HR and weather, I'll try to get that to 8:50 and hope for the sub 4 hour. If the whole thing is a disaster, I can bail where the HM ends. But, for me to bail out before 20 miles would take something really wrong happening.
I'm going to be slow and I may have to walk, but I'm going to do my best to finish this thing
This weather pattern is finally breaking Saturday, so at least you'll have that going for you. Mid 40's at the gun Sunday, hopefully not warmer than mid-high 50's (but sun) by the end. That variable obviously pales in comparison to everything else you're currently dealing with though.5 days until race day.
I'm still feeling run down and my breathing not 100%. V02 max is down to 50 from 56
This thing is going to be a disaster time wise versus what I was shooting for...but I already knew that. I was hoping to still get in at sub 4 hours, but I ran 15 at that pace a week ago and it wasnt as good as I had hoped (HR not at all what I wanted). We are also unseasonably warm by 10-15 degrees.
Not tons working in my favor, but I'm still going to give it a go. I didnt train for 20 weeks to sit on the sideline. My thought is to start at like a 9:30 pace and just go from there. If things are clicking with HR and weather, I'll try to get that to 8:50 and hope for the sub 4 hour. If the whole thing is a disaster, I can bail where the HM ends. But, for me to bail out before 20 miles would take something really wrong happening.
I'm going to be slow and I may have to walk, but I'm going to do my best to finish this thing
I’m tri-man, and I approve this C goal.
I figured that was your reasoning, but good to put potential bad assumptions aside. Marathon training done properly by itself puts most normal humans on the brink of burnout, especially it being the first time though. Given all the trials and tribulations throughout yours I'm sure the thought of more training only adds on to the stresses that already existed. While you may race better in a November marathon than this one you still won't hit your A goal and likely not your B either. Take it real easy until you get back to downtown halfway. Your body will tell you then if you can go any faster on the second half, but I'm sure you'll hit your C goal if you do that. You'll look back on this experience as a positive one even though you were capable of more. That 'more' will just have to wait for the next one.
That sucks. My first marathon was in there. With the advice of @tri-man 47, @gruecd and others as I figured out this 26.2 thing out.
Definitely think its possible with specific training as well as physical maturation from 15 to 17-18 years old.
Thanks, @gruecd. That means a lot, coming from a Boston vet such as yourself.
That said, he did get chicked by a dozen women, and apparently he couldn't find three seconds. 
Gum away! Proud parenting is definitely allowed here. But note ...DIII, by definition, doesn't do scholarships. DIII is still a blast, though (I work for DIII school), and they do take seriously the idea of the scholar-athlete. The athletic department at my university carefully tracks academic performance of all its athletes.
@Dinsy Ejotuz this is the simple but often neglected solution. And I get it - I remember that age. I could have been better in high school, but I chose not to be during June and July. Instead I chose shenanigans all summer and played catch-up during the season. I'd quickly hit a peak late season, but I came to find out many years later that wasn't really my peak. It was just my peak given the amount of work that I put in. I ran a faster 5K as a 33 year old (16:27) than I ever did as a teenager (16:55) and it's simply because that was the first time I ever adequately built a base.
I posted a little about this on Strava yesterday. I was hesitant to post here as to not distract attention and good vibes for the weekend racers. Plus I don’t like getting sad emojis.
Saw that and figured as much. Sorry things came to this point, good luck resting and strengthening.
Winning a good-sized HM certainly contributes to a successful year! But I had seen the mileage drop and was wondering. I'm eager to see what you can do in a marathon with the speed you've developed. It'll be worth the wait, so take time and get healthy, GB.
