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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

Ran the Newburyport HM today, 1:37:39 (7:27). 11 minutes better than same race last year. Most importantly I beat my HS buddy who bested me by 8 min last year.

 
Finished the Marine Corps Marathon today. First marathon ever. It was awesome, inspirational, emotional, painful, all of the above. I'll write more later, but mostly wanted to say thanks to all of you in this thread. You are such a great source of advice, motivation, guidance.....and you name the rest. I'm not sure whether or not I'll ever do a full again....but it was so worth doing it today.

For those who care, my time was around 5:04. I had major knee and hamstring issues starting around mile 16, and was at the pinnacle of suffering a major cold. Really annoying, as my 20-mile run three weeks ago went so much better than today. But it is what it is. Just glad to have finished, and to feel relatively healthy.

I can see why people have so many great things to say about MCM. Lots of cool aspects to it. More later. Thanks again guys - I'm not very active in this thread but I read it A LOT.
A first-time marathoner deserves a pickle: :pickle:

:hifive:

 
Last big week of marathon training in the books!

Monday: OFF

Tuesday: 4.1 @ 9:17 (148) in the AM & 6.2 on the trails @ 9:19 (150)

Wednesday: 11.43 with 6 x 1200 @ 7:46 (165) Kept most the 1200's around 6 minute pace, which is quite a win coming off my half marathon.

Thursday: 14.13 @ 8:12 (159)

Friday: 8.15 with 8 x 100 @ 8:17 (154)

Saturday: 5.04 @ 8:57 (144)

Sunday: 20.1 @ 7:49 (162) Only took one break at the midway point to fill my water bottle this week and practiced taking my nutrition on the move. Legs felt like lead for this run but still managed to finish strong. Ran the last 3 miles as follows: 7:20 (172), 7:10 (175) & 6:54 (177).

New weekly PR in mileage with 69.06 miles. LET THE TAPER BEGIN.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
Yeah. As somebody who now has some experience with both, my considered judgement is that scraping up your hands is preferable to taking a chunk of flesh out of your chin. Just my .02 though.

Even worse was that I did this about 50 feet in front of one of my colleagues and another guy who I see out running all the time. My colleague was kind enough to email me yesterday to gently make fun of me for my misfortune, so there was that.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
Yeah. As somebody who now has some experience with both, my considered judgement is that scraping up your hands is preferable to taking a chunk of flesh out of your chin. Just my .02 though.

Even worse was that I did this about 50 feet in front of one of my colleagues and another guy who I see out running all the time. My colleague was kind enough to email me yesterday to gently make fun of me for my misfortune, so there was that.
Hopefully he had the courtesy to stop your GPS watch while you were laying motionless.

 
A good 30 mile training week, though not as many runs or miles as desired. My nagging injuries weren't an issue, which is encouraging. T/Th workouts were on the track to go easy on my feet. Still keeping up the 500 push-ups/sit-ups, too.

T: 7 miles, with 5 x 1 mile (7:00, 6:53, 6:50, 6:50, 6:44) ...same workout as a week ago, but 10 sec/mile faster.

W: 4 miles, easy

Th: 8 miles, with 7 one mile cycles where I increased the speed on each 400m (pace/mile of ~ 9:00, 8:30, 7:30, 6:30)

Sat: 11 miles on a rolling trail (Waterfall Glen) - 8:40/mile, 158 HR (high on a warm, humid, and at times rainy day)

 
Okay, tell me if this is nuts but I'm getting a bit of cold feet about my goal marathon now. The terrain is much more hilly than where I train and while I've increased my mileage, I haven't done squat for hills. But there's another marathon in the Outer Banks of NC 6 days before my goal marathon. This race is basically pancake flat with one big bridge at mile 22. Would it be crazy to switch races at this point? Is there a big difference in a 2 week taper vs 3 weeks? (actually it's only 6 days less than my goal race)

:oldunsure:

ETA: For comparison sake of the two courses : http://findmymarathon.com/compare.php?compareName1=Richmond%20Marathon&compareName2=Outer%20Banks%20Marathon

 
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Alex- Congrats on being a marathoner!

Nigel- Great job! And, as always, I'm not surprised. You're just getting faster and faster!

Hang 10 - I don't think it's crazy and a two week taper can be OK. But why didn't you think of this earlier?

 
Hang 10 - I don't think it's crazy and a two week taper can be OK. But why didn't you think of this earlier?
I guess I did but up until recently I thought my cardio would be my biggest obstacle in the marathon. Know I realize it will be hoping my legs hold up. I wanted to intregrate some hills at some point but I had horrible stretch of weeks and never really got the chance. Also, I'll be honest and this sounds silly but the first time I saw an elevation chart of Richmond was 3 days ago.

 
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My running came to a dead stop in the last week. Ended up at the ER with some serious stomach pain early Wednesday morning. Spent the morning there doing blood work, urine test, and a cat scan. All negative. Spent all day Wednesday and Thursday in bed, then back to the doctor Friday for an x-ray. Came back negative. So they don't really know what it is. Has calmed down some over the last few days, so I'm going to try and start up again this week.

If the pain comes back, off to the GI doctor this week. Fun times. Half marathon in a few weeks out of the question now.

 
Okay, tell me if this is nuts but I'm getting a bit of cold feet about my goal marathon now. The terrain is much more hilly than where I train and while I've increased my mileage, I haven't done squat for hills. But there's another marathon in the Outer Banks of NC 6 days before my goal marathon. This race is basically pancake flat with one big bridge at mile 22. Would it be crazy to switch races at this point? Is there a big difference in a 2 week taper vs 3 weeks? (actually it's only 6 days less than my goal race)

:oldunsure:

ETA: For comparison sake of the two courses : http://findmymarathon.com/compare.php?compareName1=Richmond%20Marathon&compareName2=Outer%20Banks%20Marathon
I clearly have only one marathon under my belt, but I believe the flatness of Chicago helped me tremendously a few weeks ago. I'm not sure I do as well if I ran the KC marathon, which is a pretty hilly course.

If it's me, I would take the flat course every time.

 
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A good 30 mile training week, though not as many runs or miles as desired. My nagging injuries weren't an issue, which is encouraging. T/Th workouts were on the track to go easy on my feet. Still keeping up the 500 push-ups/sit-ups, too.
Scanned the last few pages but didn't see, what is the 500 push up/sit up thing? 500 each per day? per week? Is it just to help with general strength?

 
Okay, tell me if this is nuts but I'm getting a bit of cold feet about my goal marathon now. The terrain is much more hilly than where I train and while I've increased my mileage, I haven't done squat for hills. But there's another marathon in the Outer Banks of NC 6 days before my goal marathon. This race is basically pancake flat with one big bridge at mile 22. Would it be crazy to switch races at this point? Is there a big difference in a 2 week taper vs 3 weeks? (actually it's only 6 days less than my goal race)

:oldunsure:

ETA: For comparison sake of the two courses : http://findmymarathon.com/compare.php?compareName1=Richmond%20Marathon&compareName2=Outer%20Banks%20Marathon
I agree that a 2-week vs. 3-week taper shouldn't be an issue. If you haven't trained any hills, the Richmond course could be problematic. I almost worry most about the extended downhill during mile 7 ...that could mess up your quads with a lot of miles still to go. The uphill at the start of mile 11 will drain you to some degree as well. In general, you won't get into a smooth rhythm. The late up/down in Outer Banks won't be fun, but it's late enough that you can fight through it.

--

shady, that's 500 each per week just to help with general toning and strength. I've found that distance training makes me look, well, like a distance runner. I'm trying to maintain some sense of muscle definition and avoid the bony shoulders and thin arms.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
maybe tuck and roll?

A good 30 mile training week, though not as many runs or miles as desired. My nagging injuries weren't an issue, which is encouraging. T/Th workouts were on the track to go easy on my feet. Still keeping up the 500 push-ups/sit-ups, too.
Scanned the last few pages but didn't see, what is the 500 push up/sit up thing? 500 each per day? per week? Is it just to help with general strength?
500 per day is a good way to injure yourself unless you work up to it.

#### sit-ups. (said as someone who gets paid to do situps and does them twice a year)

 
just realized I have 66 days until our 50k. This is not going well.

Thankfully that's very much a B race with the A race 59 days later (Feb 28)

 
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Okay, tell me if this is nuts but I'm getting a bit of cold feet about my goal marathon now. The terrain is much more hilly than where I train and while I've increased my mileage, I haven't done squat for hills. But there's another marathon in the Outer Banks of NC 6 days before my goal marathon. This race is basically pancake flat with one big bridge at mile 22. Would it be crazy to switch races at this point? Is there a big difference in a 2 week taper vs 3 weeks? (actually it's only 6 days less than my goal race)

:oldunsure:

ETA: For comparison sake of the two courses : http://findmymarathon.com/compare.php?compareName1=Richmond%20Marathon&compareName2=Outer%20Banks%20Marathon
I agree that a 2-week vs. 3-week taper shouldn't be an issue. If you haven't trained any hills, the Richmond course could be problematic. I almost worry most about the extended downhill during mile 7 ...that could mess up your quads with a lot of miles still to go. The uphill at the start of mile 11 will drain you to some degree as well. In general, you won't get into a smooth rhythm. The late up/down in Outer Banks won't be fun, but it's late enough that you can fight through it.

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shady, that's 500 each per week just to help with general toning and strength. I've found that distance training makes me look, well, like a distance runner. I'm trying to maintain some sense of muscle definition and avoid the bony shoulders and thin arms.
Yeah, the steady climbs for the first 6 and then sharply down hill and then the other part that worries me is the climb from 15 to 18. Pacing this race would be a real challenge.

 
Okay, tell me if this is nuts but I'm getting a bit of cold feet about my goal marathon now. The terrain is much more hilly than where I train and while I've increased my mileage, I haven't done squat for hills. But there's another marathon in the Outer Banks of NC 6 days before my goal marathon. This race is basically pancake flat with one big bridge at mile 22. Would it be crazy to switch races at this point? Is there a big difference in a 2 week taper vs 3 weeks? (actually it's only 6 days less than my goal race)

:oldunsure:

ETA: For comparison sake of the two courses : http://findmymarathon.com/compare.php?compareName1=Richmond%20Marathon&compareName2=Outer%20Banks%20Marathon
I agree that a 2-week vs. 3-week taper shouldn't be an issue. If you haven't trained any hills, the Richmond course could be problematic. I almost worry most about the extended downhill during mile 7 ...that could mess up your quads with a lot of miles still to go. The uphill at the start of mile 11 will drain you to some degree as well. In general, you won't get into a smooth rhythm. The late up/down in Outer Banks won't be fun, but it's late enough that you can fight through it.

--

shady, that's 500 each per week just to help with general toning and strength. I've found that distance training makes me look, well, like a distance runner. I'm trying to maintain some sense of muscle definition and avoid the bony shoulders and thin arms.
Yeah, the steady climbs for the first 6 and then sharply down hill and then the other part that worries me is the climb from 15 to 18. Pacing this race would be a real challenge.
Agree that it'd be the downhill I'd worry about as much/more than the uphill. If you've only been running flat stuff your quads are gonna have an issue with the downs. Two week taper is plenty I would say, so my $.02 would be to switch to the flat one.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
maybe tuck and roll?
Definitely tuck and roll. I've become a master at falling, and now pretty much subconsciously put out my hand but also roll onto my shoulder . I've heard trail runners call handheld bottles "air bags" since they can take the brunt of the blow.

Unless I'm on a trail on the edge of a cliff, then it's just about not falling off.

 
Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
maybe tuck and roll?

A good 30 mile training week, though not as many runs or miles as desired. My nagging injuries weren't an issue, which is encouraging. T/Th workouts were on the track to go easy on my feet. Still keeping up the 500 push-ups/sit-ups, too.
Scanned the last few pages but didn't see, what is the 500 push up/sit up thing? 500 each per day? per week? Is it just to help with general strength?
500 per day is a good way to injure yourself unless you work up to it.

#### sit-ups. (said as someone who gets paid to do situps and does them twice a year)
I guess I posted that without really thinking about it. 500 per day and you'd probably look like arnold in his prime

 
2nd consecutive 31 mile week. Had 35 scheduled for last week, but I bailed on my recovery 4 yesterday. Felt some weird stuff around my left foot/ankle towards the end of Saturday's long run, so I erred on the side of caution. Everything feels fine now, so we'll see how the lunch run goes.

Monday - 5/38:00, started at a sub 8 pace and picked it up for the last mile and a half or so.

Tuesday - 3 recovery + lunges, squats, and push up's.

Wednesday - 7/49:15, first 5 about 7:15 GAP, finished with 6:45 and a 5:55! :excited: Then did a cool down mile.

Thursday - 3 recovery + lunges, squats, push up's, and several hours of yard work.

Friday - rest.

Saturday - 13/1:43, hung around 8 minute pace for the first 8 miles. I wanted to take off sooner, but I kept holding back. I finally started opening things up once I hit a downhill mile 9. The foot/ankle stuff happened during mile 10/11, but it seemed to work itself out so I picked it up. Finished 7:50>7:29>7:39 (GAP 7:21)>7:07>6:54>5:49 (0.1 mile). :pickle:

Sunday - rest.

 
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Hey guys, just a quick tip: if you're out running and you trip and fall, try not to land chin-first on the sidewalk. It doesn't go well.

That is all.
What do you suggest? Maybe using your hands to cushion the landing?
maybe tuck and roll?

A good 30 mile training week, though not as many runs or miles as desired. My nagging injuries weren't an issue, which is encouraging. T/Th workouts were on the track to go easy on my feet. Still keeping up the 500 push-ups/sit-ups, too.
Scanned the last few pages but didn't see, what is the 500 push up/sit up thing? 500 each per day? per week? Is it just to help with general strength?
500 per day is a good way to injure yourself unless you work up to it.

#### sit-ups. (said as someone who gets paid to do situps and does them twice a year)
I guess I posted that without really thinking about it. 500 per day and you'd probably look like arnold in his prime
Herschel Walker, but that's the idea. http://sealgrinderpt.com/navy-seal-workout/herschel-walker-pushup-workout.html/

I did 300 a few weeks back and felt like I tore my shoulder the next few days. (and this is with 20 years of being forced to do pushups)

This sounds "fun"

Herschel Walker Pushup Workout #1

5 rounds for time

5 sets of 20 pushups with 1 minute break between

Run around house (400 meters)

I assume this means 5x (5x20, run) so a total of 500. it hurts just typing that.

 
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Maybe the smart move is just to wait and see if the forecast is favorable for the OBX marathon and if it's not, just stick with my original plan.

 
I made it to 50 miles this week. My best since last December.
I've noticed from Strava that you've been racking up the miles. :thumbup:

Do you have a race scheduled? I don't recall.
I am signed up for the Houston marathon in January. I will also likely run a December half (the big local race) and I may run a 10k next month, although I will be woefully underprepared for it. I am doing a little bit of "faster running" now, after slogging through nothing but slow stuff since my return from the injury. It's not fast to any of you guys, but it is to me. I really think I benefit from longer tempo and MP runs, so I am going to try to get as many in as I can handle the next 8-10 weeks.

 
Alex - congrats on your first! How are you feeling a couple days post marathon?

Nigel - What a year for you, huh? Cranking out big PR's like it's nothing. :thumbup:

 
I know Grue was out doing the Fall 50, looking forward to hearing more about that!
Super busy at work today (what else is new?), so I don't really have time to elaborate, but we finished 4th overall and 3rd in the men's open division. Our time (5:41:40, 6:50/mile) was more than a little disappointing, as we finished six minutes faster two years ago with a four-man team. That being said, the 3rd-place team finished almost 16 minutes ahead of us, so we would've had to run almost 20 seconds/mile faster to have caught them. My personal performance was also disappointing. I was hoping to run in the 6:20-6:30 range, and it was everything I could do to stay under 7-minute pace, which is really depressing considering I ran a marathon at 6:52 pace five years ago. I need to get my fat ### back in shape. Now.

On a lighter note, you guys have to watch this: First Person To Run A Marathon Without Talking About It. Funny 'cuz it's true...

OK, back to work. Have a great day guys!

 
is anyone else finding that your heartrate spikes big time in the first few minutes if you strength train and then run?

I did 20 minutes of core, a few sets of squats / calf raises, then 9 minutes on the "power tower" - 36 pullups, 72 dips, 108 leg lifts.

Then went for a slow jog, within the first two minutes the HRM display said "193bpm", while I was going slow. This has happened a few times now while I certainly don't feel like I'm working that hard.

 
is anyone else finding that your heartrate spikes big time in the first few minutes if you strength train and then run?

I did 20 minutes of core, a few sets of squats / calf raises, then 9 minutes on the "power tower" - 36 pullups, 72 dips, 108 leg lifts.

Then went for a slow jog, within the first two minutes the HRM display said "193bpm", while I was going slow. This has happened a few times now while I certainly don't feel like I'm working that hard.
Yes, I think that is normal. I don't monitor my heart rate during training, so I don't have numbers but it is often at high levels if I slow jog after strength training. Whatever they are.

 
I've done quite a few workouts that involved body weight exercises and running and pull ups will definitely get your heart rate jacked up.

 
I have another 5K this weekend on Halloween. The Rising 5K. Also running this one with my son.

Good luck to everyone this weekend!

My latest Strava 5K was a personal best and I dogged it part of the last mile after breaking my 2-mile PR, so expecting the excitement and energy to propel me Saturday AM!

 
ran in The Headless Horseman 5k in my hometown last weekend. It was the most hilly 5k course I've been on in my very limited experience. It was also dark and in parts we were running on muddy trails as it rained hard an hour or two before the race. The first half mile was spent trying to get through some slower runners and probably cost me 10-15 seconds.

Mile 1 - 8:05

Mile 2 - 8:33

Mile 3 - 8:41

.1 - .49

Total 26:08

finished 7th in my 45-49 age group. 95th out of 704 overall

I was sucking some serious wind for much of the race but kept it moving and somehow got through it.

 
Took matters into my own hands yesterday. No more doctors, or pain killers, or rest. Ate a half slab of Gates ribs for lunch, which helped clean out the pipes later in the day. Had a great 3.5 mile run last night - 9:26 pace with a HR of 151.

Booyah. The power of BBQ. :boxing:

 
Took matters into my own hands yesterday. No more doctors, or pain killers, or rest. Ate a half slab of Gates ribs for lunch, which helped clean out the pipes later in the day. Had a great 3.5 mile run last night - 9:26 pace with a HR of 151.

Booyah. The power of BBQ. :boxing:
That's it?

 
Took matters into my own hands yesterday. No more doctors, or pain killers, or rest. Ate a half slab of Gates ribs for lunch, which helped clean out the pipes later in the day. Had a great 3.5 mile run last night - 9:26 pace with a HR of 151.

Booyah. The power of BBQ. :boxing:
That's it?
no kidding. Imagine what would happen if Chief manned up and actually ate a real lunch.

 
Took matters into my own hands yesterday. No more doctors, or pain killers, or rest. Ate a half slab of Gates ribs for lunch, which helped clean out the pipes later in the day. Had a great 3.5 mile run last night - 9:26 pace with a HR of 151.

Booyah. The power of BBQ. :boxing:
That's it?
no kidding. Imagine what would happen if Chief manned up and actually ate a real lunch.
:lol:

I'm a little whippersnapper.

 
Took matters into my own hands yesterday. No more doctors, or pain killers, or rest. Ate a half slab of Gates ribs for lunch, which helped clean out the pipes later in the day. Had a great 3.5 mile run last night - 9:26 pace with a HR of 151.

Booyah. The power of BBQ. :boxing:
So you were just constipated? Congrats, I guess. :toilet:

 
Alex - congrats on your first! How are you feeling a couple days post marathon? :
Thanks for all the kind words guys. It means a lot, especially coming from this crew!Yesterday was pretty brutal. The outside of both knees......very sore and tough to navigate. I did manage to walk a few miles the past two days, touring around DC with the family. Feeling a lot better tonight, other than a sore left ankle.

We also had a massive illness tear through our family, so I've barely eaten the past 36 hours. That sucks worse than the post-race soreness!

 
Alex - congrats on your first! How are you feeling a couple days post marathon? :
Thanks for all the kind words guys. It means a lot, especially coming from this crew!Yesterday was pretty brutal. The outside of both knees......very sore and tough to navigate. I did manage to walk a few miles the past two days, touring around DC with the family. Feeling a lot better tonight, other than a sore left ankle.

We also had a massive illness tear through our family, so I've barely eaten the past 36 hours. That sucks worse than the post-race soreness!
Remind Mrs. Keaton that she's a CPA - Coddle Poor Alex. :yes:

 
Alex - congrats on your first! How are you feeling a couple days post marathon? :
Thanks for all the kind words guys. It means a lot, especially coming from this crew!Yesterday was pretty brutal. The outside of both knees......very sore and tough to navigate. I did manage to walk a few miles the past two days, touring around DC with the family. Feeling a lot better tonight, other than a sore left ankle.

We also had a massive illness tear through our family, so I've barely eaten the past 36 hours. That sucks worse than the post-race soreness!
Remind Mrs. Keaton that she's a CPA - Coddle Poor Alex. :yes:
Haha, indeed. Thanks for being so supportive the past months tri-man. Your advice has been invaluable. Btw, we still need to do a run sometime. :)
 
Been a little depressed about the calf the past few days - not bitter that there's been no improvement, but obviously frustrated that at 2 years in, I still don't have a root cause or potential diagnoses. Well, I went into my biomechanics guy today and he actually decided to punt after consulting with another physiatrist in the practice. He didn't want to experiment with incremental stuff without having a good handle on what is going on. I guess that's confirmation that whatever I have is atypical. Next step if I choose is to get a more precise gait analysis with computer tracking etc at a running specialty outfit in the big city.

 
Good luck Brony.

I will be in Abilene, TX this weekend for football and I am discovering that there is basically no place to run! I am scheduled for a 16-miler.

 
Been a little depressed about the calf the past few days - not bitter that there's been no improvement, but obviously frustrated that at 2 years in, I still don't have a root cause or potential diagnoses. Well, I went into my biomechanics guy today and he actually decided to punt after consulting with another physiatrist in the practice. He didn't want to experiment with incremental stuff without having a good handle on what is going on. I guess that's confirmation that whatever I have is atypical. Next step if I choose is to get a more precise gait analysis with computer tracking etc at a running specialty outfit in the big city.
I coulda swore I responded to this yesterday, but....... Ugh man. I'm really sorry you keep hitting dead ends. Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

 
Looking forward to meeting Mr. Speedy (pbm) on Sunday for a 10K in Philly. :excited:

I'm not sure what to expect since I'm in a bit of uncharted territory. I'm running more post-marathon now than I ever have before, granted it's not a lot. I haven't really found a groove since my marathon - I'm just kind of aimlessly running right now. Although I've run faster during longer races, my official 10K PR is really soft @ 42:06. So, I'm sure I'll PR, but outside of that I think anything under 40 will be a success.

 

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