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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (6 Viewers)

Zasada said:
Yeah I've been following on Twitter as well.  How is it that every year they seem to get rained on?  Can't they catch a break one year and just have decent weather?  I can't even imagine how much it sucks to be in those conditions.
I'm guessing Laz chose March for this reason. This is a transition month in the middle of the country, so weather conditions are much more volatile day-to-day and hour-to-hour...especially in appalachia. A 60 hour period of time of stable conditions can happen, but it'd be unusual this time of year. 

 
Yeah, you should run Miwok.  That course has amazing views, not like you'll have time/energy to enjoy them, but still ...


Yeah, I could always treat it as a long run.  Now that I have the DNF monkey off my back, I can go in with a "lets enjoy the ride" perspective.  

As a bonus, Mrs. Z is excited about visiting SFO for the first time.

 
Saw the packers had their sixth stock sale yesterday. @gruecd - did you get shares, or do you already have them? What do you actually get from it? Like dividends or a vote on hiring decisions?

 
Saw the packers had their sixth stock sale yesterday. @gruecd - did you get shares, or do you already have them? What do you actually get from it? Like dividends or a vote on hiring decisions?


Yeah, I already had a share.  Bought it in the last stock sale.  I get a fancy certificate to frame and hang on my wall, and I get to attend the annual shareholder meeting at Lambeau (which I've never done).  That's about it. 

Worthless. 


Yeah, pretty much.  Just like the entire Bears team.  

 
Yeah, I already had a share.  Bought it in the last stock sale.  I get a fancy certificate to frame and hang on my wall, and I get to attend the annual shareholder meeting at Lambeau (which I've never done).  That's about it. 

Yeah, pretty much.  Just like the entire Bears team.  
Do you have to purchase the frame too? If so, that sucks. Just like the entire Bears team.

 
Great job on the 20 today @Zasada, I won’t attempt the same tomorrow but I’m planning on running 16. Hopefully stating it in here will force me to do it.


Thanks.  Couldn't have asked for better conditions yesterday.  As always when it's chilly out, it's tough to get out the door and run the first couple kms in, but after that it's bliss.

Had a good week this week.  Hopefully I can keep that up for six more.  Need to get north for some elevation gain, though.

 
I hate DST.  I recognize that I'm in the minority, but I much prefer morning daylight to evening daylight.
I used to love it and loved being on the tail end of the time zone so that it would stay light until almost 10pm in the middle of the summer. Then I got old and started getting up earlier/going to be later and now I will Indiana would go on central time! The only problem with that is that it would get dark here at like 4pm in the dead of winter. That would kind of suck. 

 
I got my London rejection this morning.  I've read the accept rate is around 1%.  Crazy.

Anyway, that leaves me signed up for 4 majors this year.  Boston, Berlin and NYC are definite.  Just trying to figure out if I can actually do Chicago this year.

 
I got my London rejection this morning.  I've read the accept rate is around 1%.  Crazy.

Anyway, that leaves me signed up for 4 majors this year.  Boston, Berlin and NYC are definite.  Just trying to figure out if I can actually do Chicago this year.


Well la di da I'm just going to run 4 major marathons in 2022 and the hardest part of the 5th is just logistics because my legs are like Fleetwood Mac and they don't stop and maybe I'll add a bit of difficulty by eating schnitzel in Berlin at the 20 mile point and then doing the same in Boston with fried fish and NY with meatballs and Chicago with some Lou Malnati's and when people ask why I'm eating while running I tell them that gels are for ####### unless you're taking one every mile and then only one #BMF can actually do that so I'm not as good as him but I can aspire to be and when they ask me if I can smell what I'm shovelin' I can honestly tell them that I would respond with the laughing emoji but I can't until I find out that I can again and I'll enact that emoji in real life at the end of each of my five marathons and not in a mean way but a legit way because I don't want the races to ban laughing and that would make everybody sad and I'm only ever happy when I race and sad racing would mean I would have to quit racing and that would be :kicksrock: .

 
Well la di da I'm just going to run 4 major marathons in 2022 and the hardest part of the 5th is just logistics because my legs are like Fleetwood Mac and they don't stop and maybe I'll add a bit of difficulty by eating schnitzel in Berlin at the 20 mile point and then doing the same in Boston with fried fish and NY with meatballs and Chicago with some Lou Malnati's and when people ask why I'm eating while running I tell them that gels are for ####### unless you're taking one every mile and then only one #BMF can actually do that so I'm not as good as him but I can aspire to be and when they ask me if I can smell what I'm shovelin' I can honestly tell them that I would respond with the laughing emoji but I can't until I find out that I can again and I'll enact that emoji in real life at the end of each of my five marathons and not in a mean way but a legit way because I don't want the races to ban laughing and that would make everybody sad and I'm only ever happy when I race and sad racing would mean I would have to quit racing and that would be :kicksrock: .
:hifive:

 
Yesterday was the definition of sucking so that the race doesn't suck, or whatever the heck the new mantra is.  Managed to loop 12 miles in the surrounding snow-covered neighborhoods, below freezing with 15mph winds, sleep deprived because I had to drive my daughter to the airport at an even more god-forsaken time than I anticipated due to the clock change.  Also special shoutout to the couple that made me divert into 6+" snow because heaven forbid they go single file as I approach them.

On the plus side, DST means evening running is a viable option again!  :wub:

Also, 50+ highs all week!  :wub:

 
Strong run yesterday, @MAC_32.  Closing it out at a 6:26/mi pace.  Great to see you getting your mojo back.
Thanks! Even more encouraging, I didn't wake up this morning feeling like the cool runnings bobsled either. I'm still not going to tempt fate with intervals again anytime soon, but knowing I can complete a SoS without a bill to pay after is a much needed confidence boost.

 
Just give the good old Derrick Henry stiff arm. 
when running on the indoor track, I've been known to lightly brush past a walker or 2 that is taking up more than their fair share of the narrow path, particularly when part of a pair walking abreast talking without any regard to their fellow man. It is especially effective the later the session goes and the more disgustingly sweaty I become. I usually start with a somewhat passive/aggressive "harumph" while squeezing past the first time or 2 I go by. If they continue to be inconsiderate, then a little bodily fluid exchange delivers the message pretty well. 

 
This morning I put on my fast shoes for the first time since September.

I ran 5 miles at 6:08 average pace which included an ease-in first mile of 6:18.  Last year I did some tempos in the 5:40s but those were on twice the weekly mileage.  Those were higher effort runs too as I was being cautious today not to burn out since this was my first hardish run in so long.  My heart rate stayed below 160 which is typical of a more controlled effort.

Overall I can’t complain to be where I seem to be considering the injuries and low volume.  I’m slowly but consistently getting healthier.  I have a running/exercising/rest routine that seems to be working and I want to stick with a while longer. Maybe I’ll try a 5K this spring if I can string a couple 5:40s together in training but it’s not a big deal.   I’ll definitely try to ramp up this summer/fall for some fall races. Definitely no marathon but I hope to be in PR shape for other  distances

 
We went down near Auburn, to lake Martin for a quick vacation and college tour. son #2’s choice right now, great choice for him imo, the campus is Nice and they have the programs he wants. The hills are beautiful and just challenging enough to make running interesting. We could definitely move to lake Martin and be happy there. 

 
Overall I can’t complain to be where I seem to be considering the injuries and low volume.  I’m slowly but consistently getting healthier. 
I have no idea how you're able to maintain your fitness with low volume, very impressive run this morning. That's great news about getting healthier and thinking about fall races.

 
I have no idea how you're able to maintain your fitness with low volume, very impressive run this morning. That's great news about getting healthier and thinking about fall races.
Thanks. I think it has to do with little slow running. All those 7:15ish miles seem to help a lot. I know the experts tell us it shouldn’t work that way but for whatever reason, my body seems to respond positively to faster running.

 
Thanks. I think it has to do with little slow running. All those 7:15ish miles seem to help a lot. I know the experts tell us it shouldn’t work that way but for whatever reason, my body seems to respond positively to faster running.
Works for you!  That’s what matters

 
Let me remove all doubt for you - You are running Miwok. 

 


OK, AirBnB booked (Muir Beach).  Rental car reserved.  Flights set.  

And, most importantly, added to the FBG Race Calendar.
Took Floppinho (14) out to Sausalito for his spring break to see my mom. 

ran down Tennessee Valley- easy but beautiful 5k OAB that turns around at the ocean... he loved it (dad did too, even with the gimpy/painful achilles). he got cut from the JV tennis team during tryouts, so switched to track where he just joined up with a bunch of his friends who had run xcountry and are doing longer distances. 

next day we went to Tam with my mom (87) and did what she calls the "perfect hike" out of Pan Toll- Matt Davis trail, up over Bolinas Ridge to the Cataract trail up to Rock Springs and back down to Pan Toll on another trail. if anybody's ever out that way and looking for an easy-ish but flat out jaw-droppingly beautiful hike (6-7m)... let me know. and my mom kicked our butts.. we were breathless trying to keep up.

eta: the locations/trails were all for Duck who must've run all of them a hundred times.. we saw a duck-like runner partway through the Matt Davis who looked sooooo happy out there.

 
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Took Floppinho (14) out to Sausalito for his spring break to see my mom. 

ran down Tennessee Valley- easy but beautiful 5k OAB that turns around at the ocean... he loved it (dad did too, even with the gimpy/painful achilles). he got cut from the JV tennis team during tryouts, so switched to track where he just joined up with a bunch of his friends who had run xcountry and are doing longer distances. 

next day we went to Tam with my mom (87) and did what she calls the "perfect hike" out of Pan Toll- Matt Davis trail, up over Bolinas Ridge to the Cataract trail up to Rock Springs and back down to Pan Toll on another trail. if anybody's ever out that way and looking for an easy-ish but flat out jaw-droppingly beautiful hike (6-7m)... let me know. and my mom kicked our butts.. we were breathless trying to keep up.

eta: the locations/trails were all for Duck who must've run all of them a hundred times.. we saw a duck-like runner partway through the Matt Davis who looked sooooo happy out there.
Making some notes for next week (!) 

 
Took Floppinho (14) out to Sausalito for his spring break to see my mom. 

ran down Tennessee Valley- easy but beautiful 5k OAB that turns around at the ocean... he loved it (dad did too, even with the gimpy/painful achilles). he got cut from the JV tennis team during tryouts, so switched to track where he just joined up with a bunch of his friends who had run xcountry and are doing longer distances. 

next day we went to Tam with my mom (87) and did what she calls the "perfect hike" out of Pan Toll- Matt Davis trail, up over Bolinas Ridge to the Cataract trail up to Rock Springs and back down to Pan Toll on another trail. if anybody's ever out that way and looking for an easy-ish but flat out jaw-droppingly beautiful hike (6-7m)... let me know. and my mom kicked our butts.. we were breathless trying to keep up.

eta: the locations/trails were all for Duck who must've run all of them a hundred times.. we saw a duck-like runner partway through the Matt Davis who looked sooooo happy out there.


I've been looking at photos from the race... wow.  Definitely going to have to lift my head from time to time and enjoy the views...

I'm a little worried about the cutoff (15:30), but worst-case I get to DNF a beautiful course.  Looking forward to it.

 
I've been looking at photos from the race... wow.  Definitely going to have to lift my head from time to time and enjoy the views...

I'm a little worried about the cutoff (15:30), but worst-case I get to DNF a beautiful course.  Looking forward to it.
It's amazing you're doing this race! It'll be agony, but beauty everywhere and some insane views at every bend.

I used to run regularly from my folks house high in Sausalito to all of this-

Tennessee Valley Aid Station(crews ok)– say hi to Captain Stan Jensen and his great volunteers, access your drop bag, then head out of the aid station as directed and turn left to ascend Marincello Fire Road. Fire road intersections can be confusing up here; we will try to have a volunteer directing if at all possible but review the trail map before the race. “Quick turn left then right” from Bobcat onto Alta at the “H”, “straight/slight left” onto the rugged SCA trail from Alta – yep, that’s the Golden Gate Bridge just below you – cross McCullough Road near Conzelman Road and, hey, there’s the Bridge View Aid Station.

Bridge View Aid Station(no crews)– Aid Station Captain Ana Braga-Levaggi and the Tamalpa running club will get you what you need to head down Coastal fire road (dirt) all the way to Bunker Road (paved), veer towards your left on Bunker Road and cross the road carefully. Continue left along Bunker Road for about 100 yards then veer right over a bridge. Shortly after the bridge turn right onto Rodeo Valley Trail and continue along Rodeo Valley Trail to the top of the ridge and left onto Alta/Wolfback then onto Bobcat at the “H” to the Miwok Trail Turn left onto Miwok and right onto Old Springs Trail, winding your way down Old Springs to the Miwok Stables. ALL RUNNERS MUST WALK THROUGH THE STABLE AREA, from the fallen log to the “OK to run now” sign so you don’t scare horses and their pint-size riders, to arrive at Tennessee Valley Aid Station.

THis is where we just hiked with my mom

Cross the parking lot up near the ranger kiosk, then cross Panoramic Highway when our Volunteers and the CHP give you the thumbs up to get onto Coastal/Matt Davis. Now the course rolls high on the mountain with exquisite views all the way to Bolinas Ridge Aid Station.

 
Well, I've been getting back out there, this is now the middle of week 3.  It still sucks, but not as bad, as expected.  Continuing the theme of having a lot of days that suck so that you have one day that doesn't suck, I started thinking of my running history over the last 4+ years.  At the end of this summer will mark my 5th anniversary of starting to run and joining this thread.  Pretty crazy how things have gone through that time.  I think about where I am, things I've been able to do, where the Mrs. is, and even our friend who ran her first marathon with us this past year also due to what I've gotten from this place.  Amazing the ripple effects it has.  Not to mention some really good friendships that have come from here.

Anyway, as I was out the last couple of days, I was thinking back to some of my favorite runs I've had over this time and thought it might be fun to post about them here and invite anyone else to do the same if you want.  Some of these are races, some of these are training runs, but each of these I can recall pretty well and I think that's cool.  And since I never ended up doing a year end race report, here goes.....

1.  My very first race, the MO Cowbell 5K (2017) -- Two months after starting to run and a goal of trying to beat an 8:30 pace, with the help of everyone here and being a complete newb, I absolutely rocked this race.  This remains one of my best run races and I'm still kind of surprised at what I was able to pull off.  Negative split that race like a boss and even finished 3rd in my AG.  I could have quit here and been fully satisfied.

2.  First leg of my first KT82 relay race  (2018) -- A race that is special to me because it's where I got started with all this running when I drove for my wife and their team the year before.  I wanted to nail this leg and PR my 5K and I did that.  I can still remember this whole run and how happy I was to put down that kind of time.  I paid for it later in the day but it was worth it.

3.  Trails for Tails 10K   (2018) -- This remains my 10K PR and also one of my best run races.  I look back now at my HR during that race and realize why I was in control.  Only a year after I started running too.

4.  Casoria Corre 10K (2018) -- Being able to run a race in Italy was such an amazing experience.  Nothing special about the time, but this one is really special for me.  It was only a week after my debut HM that didn't go so well but one of my favorite days ever.

5.  Hot Chocolate 15K with Grue (2019) -- A near death experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone.  But, it was a race that opened up doors for me down the road.  It also showed @gruecd that I'm a BMF.  The posts and reports about this were pretty epic and, while it was hell that day, I look back at it fondly.

6.  Hilly run with pace in really cold weather (2020) -- One of my most impressive runs when I look back that led into some great fitness.  This is a really hilly route and I ran this thing in cold, icy, windy weather and did it with an AHR of 150.  And a strong finish.  I think of this run a lot when I think of what I was capable of in the past.  If I can ever capture this again.....

7.  7 mile impromptu progression run to my girls' dance class  (2020) -- I remember running this and my legs were just ready to go for some reason.  I was hitting peak fitness and it showed here.  This was only a few days after the last run listed.  My last 3 miles were faster than anything I had done at that distance before.  On top of that, it was a new route and ran most of it in the dark. 

8.  Atlanta 5K (2020) -- A last minute entry and turned into my 5K PR.  I killed this race and this was when I was in my most peak fitness and condition.  I don't think I'll ever get back to this form, but a strong race on a tough 5K course.  Followed it up with....

9.  Creve Coeur HM (2020) -- Running this with @ChiefD and my wife, this was a magical day.  Helping pace her, running with our GB on a beautiful day, feeling in total control, and my HM PR as well.  This was also just days before Covid locked everything down and everything changed. 

10.  FBG virtual 5k race (2020) -- One of the most epic weekends ever in this thread.  The excitement with all our runs was something else.  I had been injured and hadn't run for 6 weeks and somehow ran this only a few seconds off my PR a couple months earlier.  I still don't know how I pulled that off but it was complete with an official Gian'ing at the end on the side of the road. 

11.  FBG virtual 1 mile race (2020) -- Downhill or not, this remains one of my proudest achievements running.  I have no idea how we did it as the idea of doing this now hurts, but my Strava PR of 5:40 on this is something I'll hold onto for a long time. 

12.  20 mile P2P run to the Arch (2020) -- Magical day.  I was happier about this run than I was about my first marathon.  I still think about it often when driving on the highway and thinking about the distance I covered. 

13.  16 mile run in Wisconsin with Grue and the Mrs (2021) -- On pretty minimal training, I got this done a few weeks before J&J out of nowhere.  I still don't know where it came from, especially the last 2 miles.  This was a legit run for me.  And a huge confidence booster heading into the marathon. 

14.  Jack and Jill Marathon (2021) -- I still don't know how I pulled this off looking back at everything leading into it and looking at my HR that day.  A lot of this race is a blur after the halfway mark.  I just remember suffering.  But, this was one that let me feel like I could hang it up and be satisfied.  Not that it matters, but I finally felt like I didn't have anything else left to prove with my running.  If this ends up being my last marathon, I'll still be a happy man. 

15.  NYC run with Floppo (2021) -- This is another one of those runs that just had a lot that was special about it.  Getting to run in NYC on a gorgeous route, cold morning, and meeting up with @El Floppo.  Nothing special time wise or distance wise, but just encapsulates this thread. 

Honorable mention goes to the 2019 KT relay with the FBG group in here.  None of my runs were any good that day nor memorable.  But the day and weekend certainly was.  So I'm going to mention it here. 

 
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gianmarco said:
Anyway, as I was out the last couple of days, I was thinking back to some of my favorite runs I've had over this time and thought it might be fun to post about them here and invite anyone else to do the same if you want.  Some of these are races, some of these are training runs, but each of these I can recall pretty well and I think that's cool.  And since I never ended up doing a year end race report, here goes.....
I was physically present for 26.7% of these.  I'll take it.

 

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