El Floppo
Footballguy
what do you guys think about a more racing flat type... again- for training and racing. I don't think he'll be putting a lot of miles in these
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gianmarco
Footballguy
The Kinvara is a great all around shoe to do everything and is going to be the most inexpensive.
However, the Endorphin Speed is an even better version and, when on sale, is what I would do if only an extra $10-15. I haven't looked at the prices now, but those 2 options would be on my short list.
However, the Endorphin Speed is an even better version and, when on sale, is what I would do if only an extra $10-15. I haven't looked at the prices now, but those 2 options would be on my short list.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Kids are freaks so it might be fine. I have those and they are spikeless flats and good for that use only imo. Would 3rd the Saucony Speeds 2 or 3s for a daily trainer that can be used for up tempo/workouts too. And then the Fastwitch for racing or if he needs spikes something else. This is a 2 shoe deal dad.
What size does he wear?
gianmarco
Footballguy
Brony
Footballguy
Congrats to @SteelCurtain on that monster run and win today!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I've used the Fastwitch for racing ...it's a solid shoe. I've recently switched to the Kinvara 13 for my running and really enjoy it. Some great pricing out there right now.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Woke up to an email that I was picked in the Waldo 100K lottery. The race is August 5th, and is only about an hour from Eugene. I have until June 15th to pull out and get most of my fee refunded, so five months to see if I can ramp things up successfully and, if so, another 4-5 weeks of training after that to get ready. It’s a pretty tough mountain race with 11,000’ in elevation gain and loss, 2-3 peaks over 7000’, and an 18-hour cutoff. That’s probably a better scenario for me than an “easier” faster 100K (like Miwok) with a 16:00 or less cutoff.
Achilles continues to improve, PT has me starting to add some hikes and easy strides to increase load to it and we hope to be back to “running” in the next couple of weeks.
I know it’s a long shot I can get myself in position to have a chance to finish this thing, but it’ll give me motivation to try!
#couchto100K begins.
Achilles continues to improve, PT has me starting to add some hikes and easy strides to increase load to it and we hope to be back to “running” in the next couple of weeks.
I know it’s a long shot I can get myself in position to have a chance to finish this thing, but it’ll give me motivation to try!
#couchto100K begins.
Zasada
Footballguy
He's back! :fistpump:
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Starts in Prospect Park in Brooklyn, hills to get over the bridge to Manhattan. Flat up the FDR drive, but then going up 42nd street to Times Square is a steady uphill, then goes through the park (I believe it goes up Cat Hill).
El Floppo
Footballguy
ah... just remembered I've run the manhattan side of it with a friend who did the whole thing. (I only ever did the race when it was loops in Central Park)
I think it was the Manhattan bridge? it's a fairly steady and not steep climb to the apex. if Brooklyn, pretty much the same. I don't think we did Cat hill- IIRC, cuts across at 72nd st or about there. that wouldn't be fun at the end of the race!
Prospect Park has that one pretty brutal stretch heading out on the N/W side of the loop (heading towards the Arch)- but it may not even be part of the race, and at least it's the beginning.
The rest is pretty mellow- even the bridge. I think you'll be able to push pretty good.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Yeah, I haven't run it since 2018ish. I actually preferred the old course when it started in Central Park and went through Times Square and down the West Side Highway to Battery Park for the finish.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Really liking Zwift but 
Some of these riders are monsters.
Thought today’s race would have at least a few dozen in it, but we started with 7 in the C group. I think 3 of those guys weren’t even there as I never saw them, the other 3 lapped me in a 23 mile, 1.7 mile loop course. I knew about two minutes in that I wasn’t going to race them but even in C these guys are super fast.
Some of these riders are monsters.Thought today’s race would have at least a few dozen in it, but we started with 7 in the C group. I think 3 of those guys weren’t even there as I never saw them, the other 3 lapped me in a 23 mile, 1.7 mile loop course. I knew about two minutes in that I wasn’t going to race them but even in C these guys are super fast.
gruecd
Footballguy
Back up to 50 miles last week for the first time in way too long, and I'll gradually work that up to 60 over the next several weeks as I prep for London. Doing 10 every Tuesday, some kind of speed on Wednesday, long run on Saturday/Sunday, and then just kinda filling in the rest. Need to lose a solid 12-15 pounds before toeing the line, too. Some of that will happen naturally with the increased mileage, but I definitely need to tighten up the diet a bit. Just looking for a solid BQ in London (3:13:04?), and if that goes well, then maybe I'll see if I can get back down into the lower 3s at Berlin this fall...
bushdocda
Footballguy
This is quite a leap in Garmin (and other) wrist based tech and I’d assume more accurate wrist detected HR. I’m not familiar with the Venu line of Garmins that have the hardware to support the software.
Semi related, I put a replacement watch band on that has the excess strap tuck in instead of go into the little other slide piece. Big fan of this advancement in my life.
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Semi related, I put a replacement watch band on that has the excess strap tuck in instead of go into the little other slide piece. Big fan of this advancement in my life.
Garmin ECG Feature Is Now Live: Here’s how it works!
As of today, Garmin has released ECG functionality for the Venu 2 Plus watch, for users in the United States. This is Garmin’s first watch to have ECG, following both clinical trials, and subsequent FDA approval, which they were granted
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Zasada
Footballguy
My wife has this watch, I'm going to set the EKG app up for her tonight and give it a try.
JShare87
Footballguy
Let the spreadsheet reflect my new goal of 3:13:03.
Zasada
Footballguy
Starting to get progressively more bummed that I can't get back to running yet. Clearly I'm past just "marathon soreness" -- my inner left leg/groin is still not able to support running (walking is 100% fine), and my pain is asymmetrical. The good news is that things are getting better, just really slowly. Going to be another couple days, at least.
On the upside, my weights performance is better than ever. Increased the weight of my dumbbells for the first time in over a year today. Wife even noticed that my arms are looking more like fettucine noodles instead of spaghetti!
On the upside, my weights performance is better than ever. Increased the weight of my dumbbells for the first time in over a year today. Wife even noticed that my arms are looking more like fettucine noodles instead of spaghetti!
JShare87
Footballguy
Officially move to the standard gym rack of dumbbells? Or still working your way up the small women’s rack?
MAC_32
Footballguy
I forget what intelligent contributor shared it in here, but their message caused me to implement 'one recovery day for every mile raced' into my regimen. I get you're frustrated because you haven't had a forced running break in 18 months and that one was injury fueled, but being just 10 days out I wouldn't sweat about it just yet. You over-did it en route to an accomplishment you'll remember for a lifetime. Enjoy it
Zasada
Footballguy
You over-did it en route to an accomplishment you'll remember for a lifetime. Enjoy it
Yes, still a worthwhile trade!
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
I've said a few times of these general rules.I forget what intelligent contributor shared it in here, but their message caused me to implement 'one recovery day for every mile raced' into my regimen. I get you're frustrated because you haven't had a forced running break in 18 months and that one was injury fueled, but being just 10 days out I wouldn't sweat about it just yet. You over-did it en route to an accomplishment you'll remember for a lifetime. Enjoy it
Taking the number of days off as the number of hours raced. Therefore, one shouldn't run at least 3-4 days if they race a marathon in 3+ hours. The second one is no hard days is based on number of miles raced, so if someone races a marathon they shouldn't do any hard workouts for 26 days. Admittedly, I think both of those are being super conservative, but probably applicable to someone who doesn't have the experience that many of us in this forum have.
gruecd
Footballguy
Another encouraging workout today with 2 x 1 mile at 6:49 (4-min recovery jogs) and 2 x 1/2-mile at 6:44 (2-min jog). I'll continue to gradually increase the speed and the length of the intervals until I'm comfortably (uncomfortably) under 6:30 pace on these. But for now, this one felt pretty easy, which is a good sign.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Zasada
Footballguy
Yup, I am definitely planning to take it easy on paces (once I can run at all). I'm going to drop into my training for Miwok, which if the past is a good indication, means plenty of easy miles will do the trick there. Plus some time in the mountains, whenever I get the chance.
Of note is that as I have become a more experienced runner, I find races take more out of me. Back when I ran my first HM, I was feeling great the day after. Same for my first and second marathons. But I ran all of those basically very close to my easy pace. The challenge for me then was covering the distance, not necessarily a time.
Now that "time" and not "distance" is the challenge, I found that my legs were totally hosed last Feb after my "fast" HM, and now again after my "fast" marathon.
So, perhaps as the gap widens between "easy" and "race" paces, I need to plan on more recovery?
Not that I plan on a street race anytime soon. In reality, my next one could be Boston, over a year from now!
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I'd like to work on a small woman's rack.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'd hate to talk you out of your established habits since the last 18 months have gone so well for you, but I wonder if it's as simple as since you don't do much SoS in training your race recovery time lengthens as a result. The way to shorten that is more SoS during training, but will other unintended consequences result from the change in regimen? There's only one way to find out and are you willing to potentially find out the hard way? Juice v Squeeze. It's always Juice v Squeeze.
bushdocda
Footballguy
Give yourself some time and grace with recovery. It’s awesome your motivation is ready for your body. That groin thing is my nemesis, smart to give it a few more days and then return easy. Tough to diagnose but lateral band walks and squeezing a yoga block or soccer sized ball together (lay on back feet on ground, squeeze) give a good stimulus to the abd/adductors to help them recover and strengthen. A couple more days now can save you weeks later.
Sports massage might be nice too before you relight the volume.
gianmarco
Footballguy
bushdocda
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
Tell the MT that it's your groin and ask her (hopefully) to "really get up in there." Then wink.
gianmarco
Footballguy
With your eyes.
Zasada
Footballguy
"I really need you to focus on that area, pretend that I'm Deshaun Watson"...
Zasada
Footballguy
Yes, I think I need to do more HMP/MP in my training. So that it's not so foreign to my muscles come race day.
Last year, I was so focused on volume, I didn't want to do much speed work and perhaps drive injury (trying to do both volume AND speed).
This year. No mileage goals. I pretended last year that I didn't have a mileage goal, but my volume pushed me into one. I was 6x weekly running and 1x weekly weights last year. This year, flip to 5x/2x, respectively. And hopefully that will allow me to consistently make one day a speed day.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I’m looking forward to the balaclava temps next week!
gruecd
Footballguy
I call those "treadmill temps."
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I have no treadmill and ended my gym membership during COVID. I have to embrace the temps. The balaclava and freezer mittens help quite a bit.
gruecd
Footballguy
Bruh, Planet Fitness costs like $10/month, and they're everywhere...
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Years ago, I used the treadmill frequently even though the posters in this thread were mostly very anti-dreadmill. Now it seems reversed. I’m not sure if I’m being braver or stupider.
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ChiefD
Footballguy
Yes.
gianmarco
Footballguy
And a toque.I just have to remember to bring my dongsock
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
I'm 100% outdoor as well. I got rid of my junky, loud treadmill years ago and don't really miss it. At one point, there was a gym 1 mile from my house and I considered a membership there for the winter months, but that has since shut down. I'm not driving 5 miles to a gym to run, and other than the occasional "how do I do a long run when there's 6+" of snow everywhere?" problem, I think it's fine. Of course, you see colder temps on average than I do, but for myself I only start to dread it when the wind chill dips below 10F. And even then, it's still doable - just have to dress right.
