Ran a 10k - Official Thread (4 Viewers)

[The_Man]

Found this video of @MAC_32

https://pin.it/3L7JytS

Glad you’re ok. I now have a plan to deal with getting run over, which I never previously realized I should have 

 

[gruecd]

I've read that this is a friendly and kind group (other than grue, obviously), so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask the smart people here.

Wait, whaaaaaat? 

 

[gruecd]

With all my races getting canceled, I'm really struggling with motivation to get out for my long runs.  I technically still have Ice Age 50K on September 26, and being a trail race, maybe it will still happen, but I doubt it.

In any case, I'm still hopefully gonna be doing two marathon-length runs in early September (pacing Mrs. Gian in Minocqua and then the virtual Boston), so I've got to keep them up.  Just not in a good headspace right now.

Maybe it's karma for being so unfriendly and unkind. 

 

[ChiefD]

(pacing Mrs. Gian in Minocqua

Um....does she know about this? And um.....your pacing persona........?

 

[gruecd]

Um....does she know about this? And um.....your pacing persona........?

LOL yes, I think she's aware (assuming J&J doesn't happen).  

Hey, when I'm pacing, I don't have time for any of that namby-pamby, kittens and rainbows BS.  I've got a job to do! 

 

[beer 30]

Hey, when I'm pacing, I don't have time for any of that namby-pamby, kittens and rainbows BS.  I've got a job to do! 

Wait, whaaaaaat? 

And you wonder why...

 

[Harris]

With all my races getting canceled, I'm really struggling with motivation to get out for my long runs.  I technically still have Ice Age 50K on September 26, and being a trail race, maybe it will still happen, but I doubt it.

In any case, I'm still hopefully gonna be doing two marathon-length runs in early September (pacing Mrs. Gian in Minocqua and then the virtual Boston), so I've got to keep them up.  Just not in a good headspace right now.

Maybe it's karma for being so unfriendly and unkind. 

I'm feeling you. Paris was moved for the second time, to November 15 now. Still half-heartedly training for it but not sure how it happens. Considering signing up for a 30km trail race here, limited to only 350 runners and only €30, in October. Maybe small races in the middle of nowhere are the way to go from here on out? Less likely to be cancelled? 

I've been trying to create a base/maintenance training plan where I can get some speed work in and put in some base miles without it being too overtaxing. Just trying to keep "ready" without burning out. 

 

[krista4]

Two concerns.

1. Nutrition.  You need to be able to get nutrition in your body while moving.  What can your stomach handle?

2. Endurance. Thinking more like could your body get hurt doing this?  I think it’s unlikely. For women, I’d worry a bit more about a stress fracture but it sounds like this is a run/walk event.  
 

Given your hiking background, I have few concerns as long as you are cool walking more than running. Be cognizant of heat/humidity.  You need to hydrate and get calories in your body.  Always walk any uphills.  And go slow particularly the first 30 miles.

Finally, since it’s summer, I would start at 2-3 am to get a bunch done before the sun is hitting you.  And before you say starting that early is crazy.....just remember, you are going to do 50 miles.

good luck and make sure you give us a post 50 mile report.

Thanks to you and to everyone else for the advice.  I hadn’t considered the nutrition side of what my body could handle.  Will need to suss this out.  When I do difficult hikes I don’t eat at all until the hard part is over.  That won’t work here!

My plan has been to start no later than 3 am.

Wait, whaaaaaat? 

A joke that I thought had run through the thread earlier.

 

[MAC_32]

Thanks to you and to everyone else for the advice.  I hadn’t considered the nutrition side of what my body could handle.  Will need to suss this out.  When I do difficult hikes I don’t eat at all until the hard part is over.  That won’t work here!

My plan has been to start no later than 3 am.

A joke that I thought had run through the thread earlier.

That's why I @'d duck. I'm guessing the @BassNBrew approach (blood, beer, and whiskey) wouldn't be krista approved and @SayWhat? trends much more along the lines of sufferage too. SC and grue at least have some ultra experience, but we all pale in comparison to duck. He's a wealth of information about adventures like what you described.

 

[ChiefD]

We need some races or shovel talk or something to chat about.

That stock thread is starting to catch up to us.  

 

[Harris]

Have you guys ever considered a FBG target race of the year or something similar? Choose an annual race (HM seems like a good distance) that everyone trains for and then have a big cornhole weekend of running, digging, beer drinking and foot massages?

Obviously not everyone would make it every year but to have even 6-8 people making it each year would be pretty awesome.

 

[gianmarco]

Have you guys ever considered a FBG target race of the year or something similar? Choose an annual race (HM seems like a good distance) that everyone trains for and then have a big cornhole weekend of running, digging, beer drinking and foot massages?

Obviously not everyone would make it every year but to have even 6-8 people making it each year would be pretty awesome.

Kinda did that with the relay last year and tried again for this year. Because who doesn't like racing in the Midwest summer?

 

[Harris]

Kinda did that with the relay last year and tried again for this year. Because who doesn't like racing in the Midwest summer?

Ah ok was out of the loop after coming back to the board this year. Was just thinking about what Grue said and keeping motivated by researching 2021 races, etc. 

 

[Juxtatarot]

Have you guys ever considered a FBG target race of the year or something similar? Choose an annual race (HM seems like a good distance) that everyone trains for and then have a big cornhole weekend of running, digging, beer drinking and foot massages?

Obviously not everyone would make it every year but to have even 6-8 people making it each year would be pretty awesome.

Paris, 2022.

 

[ChiefD]

Ah ok was out of the loop after coming back to the board this year. Was just thinking about what Grue said and keeping motivated by researching 2021 races, etc. 

I nominate @gianmarco to plan and host this next spring. We can hang out by his pool after the race and throw acorns at his new neighbor.

 

[gianmarco]

Minocqua, 2020.

 

[ChiefD]

Minocqua, 2020.

I'll meet you up there and go muskie fishing while you guys run.

 

[Juxtatarot]

I'll meet you up there and go muskie fishing while you guys run.

Wait, I couldn't chose?

 

[ChiefD]

Wait, I couldn't chose?

Paris it is. Can I drive there?

 

[El Floppo]

Thanks to you and to everyone else for the advice.  I hadn’t considered the nutrition side of what my body could handle.  Will need to suss this out.  When I do difficult hikes I don’t eat at all until the hard part is over.  That won’t work here!

My plan has been to start no later than 3 am.

A joke that I thought had run through the thread earlier.

Fwiw... I used to map out my longer Tris (1/2 and full IM) to figure out the exact best places to take nutrition in on the bike, avoiding hills and looking for long flat sections if available and not too close to the end and upcoming running. I also tested everything in training so there wouldn't be any guess work about what did and didn't work in my stomache.

With an all day thing, you'll definitely need to be aware of maintaining calorie consumption, and it might help to figure out the rights spots and the right times to fuel up. That said, it should be easier to manage on a hike if your HR isn't spiking.

Plus the pooping.

ETA...I guess you'll have a backpack of some kind...but it's conceivably a lot of food and especially water youll be schlepping around.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Paris it is. Can I drive there?

I meant chose between running and fishing.

 

[ChiefD]

I meant chose between running and fishing.

Ah, gotcha.   

Fishing sounds so much better than running right now. 

 

[Harris]

Paris it is. Can I drive there?

I meant chose between running and fishing.

Ah, gotcha.   

Fishing sounds so much better than running right now. 

So a FBG fishing tournament in Minocqua..... can I drive there? 

 

[bushdocda]

Have you guys ever considered a FBG target race of the year or something similar? Choose an annual race (HM seems like a good distance) that everyone trains for and then have a big cornhole weekend of running, digging, beer drinking and foot massages?

Obviously not everyone would make it every year but to have even 6-8 people making it each year would be pretty awesome.

We could do a regional approach to this. Somewhere in PA where we’ve got a few and the norther NY/MA guys could maybe come down. Chitown could be another region. Need a southern & central hub. 

 

[gianmarco]

Plus the pooping.

ETA...I guess you'll have a backpack of some kind...

 

[gianmarco]

Wait, I couldn't chose?

Of course you can.

Btw, as it stands, assuming J&J doesn't happen (I'd give it a 10% shot), then we will be there and likely @gruecd and hopefully @JShare87.

That alone should double the population of Minocqua. But seriously, I know it's 1 1/2 months away, but the race there is small, cheap, and they have a HM option too. Plus, you can sign up as late as race day.

So if anyone else here wants to get their race itch scratched, I'm just saying.....

Minocqua 2020

Directions from Paris

 

[El Floppo]

Plus the pooping.

ETA...I guess you'll have a backpack of some kind...

@ChiefD

 

[tri-man 47]

A joke that I thought had run through the thread earlier.

Oh, it's no joke.

 

[ChiefD]

Of course you can.

Btw, as it stands, assuming J&J doesn't happen (I'd give it a 10% shot), then we will be there and likely @gruecd and hopefully @JShare87.

That alone should double the population of Minocqua. But seriously, I know it's 1 1/2 months away, but the race there is small, cheap, and they have a HM option too. Plus, you can sign up as late as race day.

So if anyone else here wants to get their race itch scratched, I'm just saying.....

Minocqua 2020

Directions from Paris

They have a relay team possibility. 

 

[gruecd]

Directions from Paris

 

[krista4]

Fwiw... I used to map out my longer Tris (1/2 and full IM) to figure out the exact best places to take nutrition in on the bike, avoiding hills and looking for long flat sections if available and not too close to the end and upcoming running. I also tested everything in training so there wouldn't be any guess work about what did and didn't work in my stomache.

With an all day thing, you'll definitely need to be aware of maintaining calorie consumption, and it might help to figure out the rights spots and the right times to fuel up. That said, it should be easier to manage on a hike if your HR isn't spiking.

Plus the pooping.

ETA...I guess you'll have a backpack of some kind...but it's conceivably a lot of food and especially water youll be schlepping around.

Oh, I might not have been clear - I'm not doing this as a hike.  My goal will be to keep everything as flat as possible.  I've been scouting locations since I can't walk out my door without facing hills immediately.  On my longer walks this week, I included a lot of hills just because I started at my house, but I don't want that for 50 miles.

 

[MAC_32]

Oh, I might not have been clear - I'm not doing this as a hike.  My goal will be to keep everything as flat as possible.  I've been scouting locations since I can't walk out my door without facing hills immediately.  On my longer walks this week, I included a lot of hills just because I started at my house, but I don't want that for 50 miles.

Something to consider - since you have so much practice on inclines/declines it may be better to incorporate them into your journey. The tradeoff between the additional energy exuded may be worth it to spare your feet, which are acclimated to the different cadence required going up an down rather than the same movement over-and-over again. 

 

[SFBayDuck]

I have a probably dumb question for the people in this thread.  I have agreed possibly to do a 50-mile "event" in two weeks.  I put it that way because it's nothing official, and certainly not a "race" - I am not a runner.  Just an idea between a couple of people to challenge ourselves, doing it virtually as we're not in the same locale.

I'm not entirely sure what my question is, but let's call it something like this:  as I am not a runner or a racer or anything of that ilk, is this insane of me to try?  To emphasize that I am not a runner, I'll admit that my intended overall pace would be 3.33 mph, to get 10 miles in every three hours.  Basically a fast walk, not even a jog.

Though I don't run, I'm a hiker and good at elevation and distance.   My longest one-day hikes have been around 23 miles but with significant gain and loss (7000ish feet).  For COVID and other reasons, I haven't been so active in that this year, but I get in some walks every day.  I've done a couple of test walks the past week to see if they bothered me - 15 miles on Wednesday and 18 miles today.  No problems there.

I've read that this is a friendly and kind group (other than grue, obviously), so I figured it couldn't hurt to ask the smart people here.

The other smart people in here have already touched on a lot of the things you'll want to consider.  Based on your recent long efforts I have no doubt that it might hurt but that you can knock out 50 miles, so you have to look at what could keep you from finishing.

1. Bonking from lack of calories. - since you're mostly hiking and not running, hopefully you won't have the stomach issues so common in ultras.  When running long the goal is to get in 250-350 calories an hour, with hiking I'd think you could get away with less. Maybe just try to be sure to get in 250 every 2 hours, something like that.  But figure out the best you can beforehand what works for you in terms of eating while hiking and what you'll turn to if that stops working.  For example you plan on munching on a handful of trail mix or half of a Cliff Bar once an hour, but you have some Tailwind or GU Brew powder you can mix into your water if your stomach just doesn't want any more solid food.

2. Dehydration - you're an experienced hiker, so I'm sure you've got water figured out.  

3.  Heat - assuming this is self supported not much you can do other than plan for what you'll do if you start overheating, which basically means get wet if there are creek crossings or water sources.  In that scenario a hat and bandana around your neck that you can get wet can help.  If you are going to have support crew meeting you out there, have them bring ice and load up your hydration bladder, hat, bandana, sports bra, etc.

4.  Blisters - Nothing like a 1/4 inch spot on your foot ending your day.  Make sure your shoes and socks are dialed in.  If it's dusty or sandy, consider cleaning your feet and changing socks once or twice. If you are getting wet to deal with heat, do your best to keep your feet dry, or change socks more often.  Have a foot care kit with you to deal with blisters if you get them - tape, moleskin, alcohol pad, non-petroleum based lube, a needle, etc.  If you haven't dealt with blisters before, this is a good resource.  

5.  Chafing - ok, this doesn't usually end an event, but it sure can make it miserable.  Obviously having your gear dialed in helps, but you still may find that a pack that has never given you problems starts to do so after 10, 11, 12 hours.  So I'd recommend lubing up at any possible friction points before hand, and bring some with you as well.  Squirrel's Nut Butter or body glide are the two I've used the most.

Sounds like a blast, I'm jealous!  Where are you going to do this?  A lot of the above was under the assumption that you'd be out in the mountains somewhere, obviously the planning gets a whole lot easier if you're in town or if you're looping back to your house or car.

ETA - just saw your last post.  Yeah, you've got this no problem then.  Just keep moving, eat some food now and then, stay hydrated, and take care of any blisters or chafing before they become a problem.

 

[gianmarco]

Listen to @SFBayDuck

Along with what he and others have said....

1) Nutrition/hydration is the most likely thing that will keep you from finishing. Do not overlook this

2) Nothing new on "race day". Do not do this with a new shirt or new shoes. Whatever you plan on using that day, make sure you've used it before on a long walk/hike. Same applies to nutrition. Nothing new. Nothing you haven't used and practiced with.

3) You got this. Before I ran, I posted about a 100 hole golf challenge. I wasn't in great shape, but I played 109 holes of golf, all walking, one day. I ended up walking 36 miles from 5am-9pm (while playing golf). I was sore and tired, but I survived and got through it relatively "easily". Given your hiking background, I think you'll get this done without issue. That said, that day, I easily took in 5000 calories in the form of ham sliders, bananas, and lemonade. And don't overlook electrolytes while doing this.

Keep us updated so we can follow along. 

 

[krista4]

Something to consider - since you have so much practice on inclines/declines it may be better to incorporate them into your journey. The tradeoff between the additional energy exuded may be worth it to spare your feet, which are acclimated to the different cadence required going up an down rather than the same movement over-and-over again. 

This is a good point.  I recently put my incline trainer down to nothing just to see how fast I went on it without incline, and it was miserable.  I can't use that thing without some decent incline.  I might need some on a route, too.

The other smart people in here have already touched on a lot of the things you'll want to consider.  Based on your recent long efforts I have no doubt that it might hurt but that you can knock out 50 miles, so you have to look at what could keep you from finishing.

1. Bonking from lack of calories. - since you're mostly hiking and not running, hopefully you won't have the stomach issues so common in ultras.  When running long the goal is to get in 250-350 calories an hour, with hiking I'd think you could get away with less. Maybe just try to be sure to get in 250 every 2 hours, something like that.  But figure out the best you can beforehand what works for you in terms of eating while hiking and what you'll turn to if that stops working.  For example you plan on munching on a handful of trail mix or half of a Cliff Bar once an hour, but you have some Tailwind or GU Brew powder you can mix into your water if your stomach just doesn't want any more solid food.

2. Dehydration - you're an experienced hiker, so I'm sure you've got water figured out.  

3.  Heat - assuming this is self supported not much you can do other than plan for what you'll do if you start overheating, which basically means get wet if there are creek crossings or water sources.  In that scenario a hat and bandana around your neck that you can get wet can help.  If you are going to have support crew meeting you out there, have them bring ice and load up your hydration bladder, hat, bandana, sports bra, etc.

4.  Blisters - Nothing like a 1/4 inch spot on your foot ending your day.  Make sure your shoes and socks are dialed in.  If it's dusty or sandy, consider cleaning your feet and changing socks once or twice. If you are getting wet to deal with heat, do your best to keep your feet dry, or change socks more often.  Have a foot care kit with you to deal with blisters if you get them - tape, moleskin, alcohol pad, non-petroleum based lube, a needle, etc.  If you haven't dealt with blisters before, this is a good resource.  

5.  Chafing - ok, this doesn't usually end an event, but it sure can make it miserable.  Obviously having your gear dialed in helps, but you still may find that a pack that has never given you problems starts to do so after 10, 11, 12 hours.  So I'd recommend lubing up at any possible friction points before hand, and bring some with you as well.  Squirrel's Nut Butter or body glide are the two I've used the most.

Sounds like a blast, I'm jealous!  Where are you going to do this?  A lot of the above was under the assumption that you'd be out in the mountains somewhere, obviously the planning gets a whole lot easier if you're in town or if you're looping back to your house or car.

ETA - just saw your last post.  Yeah, you've got this no problem then.  Just keep moving, eat some food now and then, stay hydrated, and take care of any blisters or chafing before they become a problem.

Thank you!!  I definitely wasn't clear.  I was just giving my background on what I do from a fitness perspective, not expecting this to be a hike.  I do have an area I'm thinking of now that would give me some up and down just to keep it interesting, but not anything crazy.  I would probably be able to loop back to my car there every 8-10 miles, which would be really helpful!

I'll have some moleskin, but my shoes and socks are well tested and I don't expect problems.  Extra socks are a good idea, though.  I always have Body Glide for chafing, though I haven't had that issue lately.  Also keep Nuun tablets with me.  Good info on the eating.  Trail mix usually works well for me, but I'll look at the powders you mentioned.  

 

[krista4]

Listen to @SFBayDuck

Along with what he and others have said....

1) Nutrition/hydration is the most likely thing that will keep you from finishing. Do not overlook this

2) Nothing new on "race day". Do not do this with a new shirt or new shoes. Whatever you plan on using that day, make sure you've used it before on a long walk/hike. Same applies to nutrition. Nothing new. Nothing you haven't used and practiced with.

3) You got this. Before I ran, I posted about a 100 hole golf challenge. I wasn't in great shape, but I played 109 holes of golf, all walking, one day. I ended up walking 36 miles from 5am-9pm (while playing golf). I was sore and tired, but I survived and got through it relatively "easily". Given your hiking background, I think you'll get this done without issue. That said, that day, I easily took in 5000 calories in the form of ham sliders, bananas, and lemonade. And don't overlook electrolytes while doing this.

Keep us updated so we can follow along. 

I remember when you did that challenge!

The food is most concerning to me now.  I ate half a sandwich ~13 miles in yesterday and felt nauseated the whole time after that.  I might also have been a bit dehydrated at that point.  I had water but often I don't use it as much as I should.

 

[El Floppo]

This is a good point.  I recently put my incline trainer down to nothing just to see how fast I went on it without incline, and it was miserable.  I can't use that thing without some decent incline.  I might need some on a route, too.

Thank you!!  I definitely wasn't clear.  I was just giving my background on what I do from a fitness perspective, not expecting this to be a hike.  I do have an area I'm thinking of now that would give me some up and down just to keep it interesting, but not anything crazy.  I would probably be able to loop back to my car there every 8-10 miles, which would be really helpful!

I'll have some moleskin, but my shoes and socks are well tested and I don't expect problems.  Extra socks are a good idea, though.  I always have Body Glide for chafing, though I haven't had that issue lately.  Also keep Nuun tablets with me.  Good info on the eating.  Trail mix usually works well for me, but I'll look at the powders you mentioned.  

"Not expecting this to be a hike"...does that mean it's more a walk...or a run/walk? Slower? Faster? I'm obviously not clear on what your intentions are here. Typical walking pace is roughly 2-3mph, which would make a really long day. I think you mentioned being more than 3mph...so somewhere in a brisk walk, for 16+ hours?

 

[El Floppo]

I remember when you did that challenge!

The food is most concerning to me now.  I ate half a sandwich ~13 miles in yesterday and felt nauseated the whole time after that.  I might also have been a bit dehydrated at that point.  I had water but often I don't use it as much as I should.

Looping back to a car or house will allow you to have a cooler full of options and a ready resupply of water (and bathroom options!)...a good idea, imo. 

 

[SFBayDuck]

I remember when you did that challenge!

The food is most concerning to me now.  I ate half a sandwich ~13 miles in yesterday and felt nauseated the whole time after that.  I might also have been a bit dehydrated at that point.  I had water but often I don't use it as much as I should.

Yeah that's a bad combo, trying to eat while dehydrated.  Definitely up your fluid intake throughout the day, and drink when you eat as it'll help you process it quicker and reduce the chance of nausea - osmolality and gastric emptying and whatnot. You might also want to simplify - simple carbs are easiest to digest (and are really what you need), adding fiber slows things down, protein slows it down more, and fat really slows down digestion (which is why it's so satiating). 

 

[krista4]

Yeah that's a bad combo, trying to eat while dehydrated.  Definitely up your fluid intake throughout the day, and drink when you eat as it'll help you process it quicker and reduce the chance of nausea - osmolality and gastric emptying and whatnot. You might also want to simplify - simple carbs are easiest to digest (and are really what you need), adding fiber slows things down, protein slows it down more, and fat really slows down digestion (which is why it's so satiating). 

Lots more good info here - thank you!

 

[MAC_32]

Lots more good info here - thank you!

This is why we have him on retainer. 

 

[SFBayDuck]

This is why we have him on retainer. 

Thanks for throwing up the bat signal, I hadn't been in the thread in awhile.  That's what happens when you're barely running.

And glad your accident wasn't worse, damn that had to be scary.

 

[tri-man 47]

4.  Blisters - Nothing like a 1/4 inch spot on your foot ending your day.  Make sure your shoes and socks are dialed in.  If it's dusty or sandy, consider cleaning your feet and changing socks once or twice. If you are getting wet to deal with heat, do your best to keep your feet dry, or change socks more often.  Have a foot care kit with you to deal with blisters if you get them - tape, moleskin, alcohol pad, non-petroleum based lube, a needle, etc.  If you haven't dealt with blisters before, this is a good resource.  

 

[SFBayDuck]

I was going to reference you rubbing her feet, but didn't want to scare her right back out of the thread.

 

[BassNBrew]

If anything I'm surprised it's this late. The bigger Ohio races closed up shop weeks ago. 

First off, glad you are OK.

As of now, Burning River 100 is so a go.

 

[MAC_32]

First off, glad you are OK.

As of now, Burning River 100 is so a go.

A few of us were talking about doing the relay, but that's off now. 

 

[SteelCurtain]

The other smart people in here have already touched on a lot of the things you'll want to consider.  Based on your recent long efforts I have no doubt that it might hurt but that you can knock out 50 miles, so you have to look at what could keep you from finishing.

1. Bonking from lack of calories. - since you're mostly hiking and not running, hopefully you won't have the stomach issues so common in ultras.  When running long the goal is to get in 250-350 calories an hour, with hiking I'd think you could get away with less. Maybe just try to be sure to get in 250 every 2 hours, something like that.  But figure out the best you can beforehand what works for you in terms of eating while hiking and what you'll turn to if that stops working.  For example you plan on munching on a handful of trail mix or half of a Cliff Bar once an hour, but you have some Tailwind or GU Brew powder you can mix into your water if your stomach just doesn't want any more solid food.

2. Dehydration - you're an experienced hiker, so I'm sure you've got water figured out.  

3.  Heat - assuming this is self supported not much you can do other than plan for what you'll do if you start overheating, which basically means get wet if there are creek crossings or water sources.  In that scenario a hat and bandana around your neck that you can get wet can help.  If you are going to have support crew meeting you out there, have them bring ice and load up your hydration bladder, hat, bandana, sports bra, etc.

4.  Blisters - Nothing like a 1/4 inch spot on your foot ending your day.  Make sure your shoes and socks are dialed in.  If it's dusty or sandy, consider cleaning your feet and changing socks once or twice. If you are getting wet to deal with heat, do your best to keep your feet dry, or change socks more often.  Have a foot care kit with you to deal with blisters if you get them - tape, moleskin, alcohol pad, non-petroleum based lube, a needle, etc.  If you haven't dealt with blisters before, this is a good resource.  

5.  Chafing - ok, this doesn't usually end an event, but it sure can make it miserable.  Obviously having your gear dialed in helps, but you still may find that a pack that has never given you problems starts to do so after 10, 11, 12 hours.  So I'd recommend lubing up at any possible friction points before hand, and bring some with you as well.  Squirrel's Nut Butter or body glide are the two I've used the most.

Sounds like a blast, I'm jealous!  Where are you going to do this?  A lot of the above was under the assumption that you'd be out in the mountains somewhere, obviously the planning gets a whole lot easier if you're in town or if you're looping back to your house or car.

ETA - just saw your last post.  Yeah, you've got this no problem then.  Just keep moving, eat some food now and then, stay hydrated, and take care of any blisters or chafing before they become a problem.

1.  You want to run a pace that you body can process food.  Do NOT rely on GU's or ShotBloks for all your calories.  I eat bananas.  In my ultra, I ate PB&J sandwiches and cookies.  

4.  I ALWAYS vaseline my entire foot for long races.  From toe to heel, top and bottom, in between every single toe.  Then toss your socks on and put your shoes on.  I'm pretty sure you won't get any blisters.

5.  Places to consider regarding chafing.  Underarms, in between your thighs, around the edge of your sportsbra, your lady parts, etc. Go on a long run.  When you get back, strip naked and look for anything that may be anything a little red.  A little red becomes a lotta red over 50 miles.  Make sure you lube those areas.

Are you on Strava?  Let's get you hooked up so we can track your training!

 

[krista4]

1.  You want to run a pace that you body can process food.  Do NOT rely on GU's or ShotBloks for all your calories.  I eat bananas.  In my ultra, I ate PB&J sandwiches and cookies.  

4.  I ALWAYS vaseline my entire foot for long races.  From toe to heel, top and bottom, in between every single toe.  Then toss your socks on and put your shoes on.  I'm pretty sure you won't get any blisters.

5.  Places to consider regarding chafing.  Underarms, in between your thighs, around the edge of your sportsbra, your lady parts, etc. Go on a long run.  When you get back, strip naked and look for anything that may be anything a little red.  A little red becomes a lotta red over 50 miles.  Make sure you lube those areas.

Are you on Strava?  Let's get you hooked up so we can track your training!

Thanks!  Bananas are a great idea.
Nakedness...lube...are we still talking about my 50-miler?

Btw, I’ve worn solely Injinji Toe socks for 6-7 years.  Before that, my toes would rub and chafe.

 

[SFBayDuck]

I'm sure a few of you know the name Tommy Rivers Puzey, a super talented runner in Flagstaff.  He's been posting on his Instagram from a hospital, where's he's been for a couple of weeks with COVID-like symptoms (it doesn't seem like he's tested positive, but that's not clear in what I've seen).  He took a turn for the worse the last 24 hours and is now on a ventilator, and apparently not responding well.  

If you're not familiar with him, here's a quick read from Matt Fitzgerald https://www.8020endurance.com/the-most-interesting-runner-in-the-world/, an excerpt:

A few days after our book-signing encounter, Rivers jetted off to Italy, accompanied by Caleb Schiff, a big name in the local cycling community and owner of Pizzicletta, a bike-themed pizza joint. The pair spent a week touring the mountains of Tuscany and the trails of Cinque Terre, fueled by focaccia, kinder, cannoli, fried calamari, and other street foods. The following week, Rivers (who has an enviable set of abs) modeled for the clothing retailer H&M in the quarries near Carrera, where Michelangelo got his stone and where Caleb got the marble for the countertops in his restaurant. Home just long enough to catch up on sleep, Rivers then flew to Boston to participate in a certain marathon. On arriving there, he began a 48-hour fast, dropping 12 of the 18 pounds he gained in Italy, and finished 16th in the world’s most hallowed footrace with a personal-best time of 2:18:20. Two weeks later, Rivers finished third in the Calgary Marathon. Four weeks after that, he found himself in Auburn, California, having been enlisted to pace Jim Walmsley through the last segment of the Western States 100, beginning from the American River crossing at mile 78. Favored to win the race, Jim overheated and dropped out—at mile 78. This was a month ago. Last week, Rivers completed his doctorate in physical therapy. He has three kids.

There's a Go Fund Me linked on the above page for medical costs.  Just brutal, one of the fittest dudes on the planet barely hanging on to life with his lungs just ravaged.

 

[gianmarco]

Nakedness...lube...are we still talking about my 50-mil(limet)er?

Nope, now we're talking about mine.

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