Ran a 10k - Official Thread (8 Viewers)

[ChiefD]

ChiefD - How hilly is next weekend's course compared to the last one?

Flatter. On my first race, the first 3 miles were pretty much uphill, and then the long incline toward the back of the race.

On this course there is a series of smaller hills, but the longest incline I will have at one stretch will be about 1.5 miles. And it's early. So if I pound through that, I set myself up really nice. After this point, the longest incline I face in one stretch will be less than a mile.

The only real X factor in this race could be weather. Starting to warm up here, and this race is out in the country. Absolutely no tree cover at all.

 

[tri-man 47]

Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:

Mile 1: warm up

Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR

Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR

Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR

Mile 5: cool down

8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.

HTH

Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.

Sorry to be the downer here, but I think it would be a mistake for ChiefD to go out at 8:05 pace.

Less than a month ago he ran a half in 1:51 (8:28 pace), there hasn't been enough time to see such a huge improvement. I guess the argument could be made that he left some time on the course, but in reading his race report I don't see any evidence of that. Instead I see quotes like "Not sure if I could have pushed anymore here" and "I really wanted to go here, but I just couldn't pull enough of a deep breathe here to really go. I felt pretty good, and my mind said go, but my body wasn't ready."

He was able to pick it up at the end (last two miles 8:13 and 8:12), but even with that they were slower than 8:05. If he took this race too easy and was capable of running a half at 8:05 pace, I think these two miles would have been significantly faster.

In my opinion ChiefD is being too hard on himself about the effort he gave during the half. You can give all the effort you want, but if you attempt to run a pace beyond your fitness things will go poorly in races as long as a half marathon.

Thanks. Appreciate that, and if I'm being honest with myself I think you are dead on.

But I do have this thought (probably put here by Hang10) of what if? What if I try and push it a little more? Do I have that in me? For me to pick up a PR to 1:48, I have to find 3 minutes somewhere.

When I ran my 1:49, here were my splits:

Mile 1: 7:25

Mile 2: 7:53

Mile 3: 8:10

Mile 4: 7:58

Mile 5: 8:08

Mile 6: 8:02

Mile 7: 8:07

Mile 8: 8:24

Mile 9: 8:46

MIle 10: 8:30

Mile 11: 8:51

Mile 12: 8:42

Mile 13: 8:09

And I ran this PR last spring. So I do think my fitness is at least the same as last spring and should be better based on the HR training.

Chief - knowing the challenge of the latter miles, but now with recent experience to draw from, you could plan some tactics for those final miles. Specifically, you could focus on both stride length and a quick rotation. You know you can run the distance, so without worrying about that sort of uncertainty, you could focus on little details that might bring down the mile splits. If someone passes you, too, you could try to hang with them for a bit ...let them do the work in front of you!

 

[NREC34]

I did something different today on my treadmill run to break the monotony. Set it up for my usual 30 minutes. Started out 6mph with incline of 0.5. Then every minute I bumped it up .1mph. I was able to get 18 minutes up to a speed of 7.8 before I backed it back down to 6.

I think I probably could have made 20 minutes but I wanted to leave some gas in the tank to be able to finish my 30 minutes without walking. Hopefully someday I can do all 30 minutes with that last minute up on 9mph. I think I'd be pretty happy if I could get to that kind of fitness level.

 

[ChiefD]

I did something different today on my treadmill run to break the monotony. Set it up for my usual 30 minutes. Started out 6mph with incline of 0.5. Then every minute I bumped it up .1mph. I was able to get 18 minutes up to a speed of 7.8 before I backed it back down to 6.

I think I probably could have made 20 minutes but I wanted to leave some gas in the tank to be able to finish my 30 minutes without walking. Hopefully someday I can do all 30 minutes with that last minute up on 9mph. I think I'd be pretty happy if I could get to that kind of fitness level.

You will be. Nice job! All you need now is time. You've done the hard part already, which is getting started. And if you are already hitting 30 minutes without walking, you have a nice base to keep it going.

 

[Hang 10]

Finally had a pretty decent run last night. Did a tempo run:

Mile 1: warm up

Mile 2: 7:28 Pace. 177HR

Mile 3: 8:09 Pace. 176HR

Mile 4: 8:04 Pace. 179HR

Mile 5: cool down

8:05 is your race pace for your half. Don't over think it and just hold that pace until you can't do it anymore. PR and report back.

HTH

Sounds good. Gonna give it a go. If I blow up, then so be it.

Sorry to be the downer here, but I think it would be a mistake for ChiefD to go out at 8:05 pace.

Less than a month ago he ran a half in 1:51 (8:28 pace), there hasn't been enough time to see such a huge improvement. I guess the argument could be made that he left some time on the course, but in reading his race report I don't see any evidence of that. Instead I see quotes like "Not sure if I could have pushed anymore here" and "I really wanted to go here, but I just couldn't pull enough of a deep breathe here to really go. I felt pretty good, and my mind said go, but my body wasn't ready."

He was able to pick it up at the end (last two miles 8:13 and 8:12), but even with that they were slower than 8:05. If he took this race too easy and was capable of running a half at 8:05 pace, I think these two miles would have been significantly faster.

In my opinion ChiefD is being too hard on himself about the effort he gave during the half. You can give all the effort you want, but if you attempt to run a pace beyond your fitness things will go poorly in races as long as a half marathon.

Hey, maybe I'm totally out of line telling Chiefs what his pace should be. I have considered that possibility but as most of us do, we fall back on our own experiences. I've ran 10 half marathons. Out of the first 9, I PR'd 6 times. Watching Chiefs progression it seems to me that he's due. He's been consistent in his training the past couple of years and he's made it sound that he's improved fitness wise. To me, aiming for a PR of only 2-3 minutes in a half marathon doesn't seem overly aggressive. But I guess that's because I usually try to err on the aggressive side.

I respect your opinion though, PBM. You seem to be a more thoughtful runner and a better one as well. So if Chiefs listens to you, that is probably the smart and sound advice. But if he decides listen this guy, well...it definitely isn't a safe bet. But that's kinda the point.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Good luck to anybody racing this weekend.

 

[FUBAR]

First century ride of the year, metric.

Slightly frustrated that I didn't hit 20mph average, just short of the mark at 19.6

 

[Hang 10]

Independence Middle School 5K

Nice little low key race. Probably about 200 people. Course winds through a pretty nice neighborhood. Conditions were pretty good. Just under 60 degrees and not a ton of wind. I showed up and saw a buddy that runs around the same paces as me. At least we were running the same before you know...whatever. Anyway, he's been doing tons of distances races, so his goal was a modest sub 20 race. Perfect. I basically just paced off him the entire race. I felt good...not great. But I hung tough and got it done. Finished in 19:45. Felt great to get back under 20 minutes. Not sure exactly where I finished overall, as I had to leave right after because of my daughters softball game. Think I finished 2nd in my age group and around 6th overall but that's unconfirmed.

Mile splits:

Mile 1 - 6:20 (185 bpm)

Mile 2 - 6:28 (193 bpm)

Mile 3 - 6:17 (195 bpm)

.12 - .40 (196 bpm)

Felt good to finish strong. Very encouraging result.

ETA: 2/9 Age Group (+3 seconds) & 5/163 Overall

 

[Ned]

That third mile says a lot!

 

[Hang 10]

That third mile says a lot!

Yeah, that was my big take away from this race. It's hard to compare two weeks ago because of the disastrous start but in that race was total positive split. Things went from bad to worse to worser. Today, 2/3rds into the race, when I was really hating life, I look down at my watch and notice that I've actually sped up. That does so much for your confidence.

 

[tri-man 47]

Feeling good enough to jump right into the deep end with my training - 11 mile run, with 6 x 1800m @ 7:35/mile pace. A good pain.

 

[Hang 10]

Feeling good enough to jump right into the deep end with my training - 11 mile run, with 6 x 1800m @ 7:35/mile pace. A good pain.

Nice work! But what's with the 1800's? Your miles go to 11?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

My wife and I did our local half this morning. My training had been mediocre, but it was a gorgeous day -- no wind and about 45 at the start -- so I decided to set out on a 1:40 pace, which would be about a one minute improvement on last year's PR. Go big or go home, etc. Well, the first seven miles were all ~7:40, but then I started to run out of gas. Honestly, I knew by about mile 4 that today was not going to be the day for sub-100, but I just pressed on until my LT limitations kicked in. I faded especially badly during the final 5K and the last two miles were both over 8:00. Final time was 1:43:25, which was good for 35/374 and 6/23 in my AG. The AG place was slightly disappointing, but it just happened to be a fast-ish field this year. The guys who finished ahead of me were all a couple minutes faster than my unrealistic goal pace, and I was happy to have held off two guys who finished 30-60 seconds behind me.

Had the weather been less ideal, I would have run a more conservative race, but screw it. Might as well take a shot when you catch a good day.

The great news is that my wife won the F 40+ division with 1:47x, and she PR'ed by 30 seconds. Good times in the Karamazov household.

 

[Brony]

Way to thoroughly beat your wife Ivan!

 

[Hang 10]

Way to thoroughly beat your wife Ivan!

NO MORE

 

[Hang 10]

Great work to you and the Mrs., Ivan!

 

[beer 30]

This thread has been like runner porn lately, nice job guys!

 

[tri-man 47]

Feeling good enough to jump right into the deep end with my training - 11 mile run, with 6 x 1800m @ 7:35/mile pace. A good pain.

Nice work! But what's with the 1800's? Your miles go to 11?

I have an urban "hill" loop 2 miles from my house ...the loop has two expressway overpasses so I get a couple ups and downs instead of the normal, flat Chicago streets. The loop is 1.2 miles around, or 1800m. I ran to the loop, did my repeats, and ran home. Technically, it was 11.2 miles. I use these loops a lot when I can't otherwise drive out to the suburban trails. Instead of just racking up miles at a continuous easy/moderate pace, I decided to make them long intervals at about a HM pace.

 

[MAC_32]

Ankle isn't 100% yet, but I feel comfortable saying it's 90%+. Just did three runs in four days only on pavement after only running twice in the 17 days prior with two full days of amusement park walking mixed in too.

First two were flat four milers while vacationing in Florida. Did the last mile of each at seven minute pace. Held eight minute pace in round one and despite a hard steady rain 7:40 round two.

I know I'm healthy now because of yesterday though. Hill repeats. None of them are tall but there are two steep ones per mile loop. I didn't let loose, but I feel the same today as I did this time last week, and each loop was steadily faster - all under eight minutes too.

Taking today off, lifting only tomorrow, then gonna try an easy seven on the trails Saturday before I declare myself completely back again.

#### that plan, I did 9 today.Buddy of mine is doing a 24 hour ultra race. One mile loop as many times as you can. Joined him and two others for a two lap warm up to help break up the redundancy of their day then ventured off on my own. Didn't feel good during it nor the first couple on my own, but I really hit a groove about half way and never lost it. I'd have kept going beyond nine but I was getting dehydrated and all i had was a protein drink in my now very warm car, so I called it a day.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

What is the "magic number" that runners talk about? I think it's been discussed on this thread. I believe it was temp+humidity, if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't remember what the optial range was.

 

[jomar]

I think I'm getting better at this.

Thursday I ran 4.82 miles at an average 9:50 pace. 155 avg HR

Today, I ran 4.03 miles at an average 9:24 pace. 163 avg HR

For both runs, I was never uncomfortable. The first run was a long slow run but I was happy coming in under 10:00 avg. today's run I wanted more comfortable miles and was really happy to see the 9:24 avg. I mean really happy with myself. When I started this 6 weeks ago, 9:00 miles would kick my ### after 2 miles. Now I feel like I could run a 10k at a 9:30 pace with no problem.

does this mean I am getting in better shape?

 

[FUBAR]

What is the "magic number" that runners talk about? I think it's been discussed on this thread. I believe it was temp+humidity, if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't remember what the optial range was.

Temp plus dew Point.

Forget the ideal range but over 160 sucks.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

What is the "magic number" that runners talk about? I think it's been discussed on this thread. I believe it was temp+humidity, if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't remember what the optial range was.

Temp plus dew Point. Forget the ideal range but over 160 sucks.

Yep, thanks. That is what I was thinking of, just couldn't remember the exact explanation.

My race I have tomorrow is looking like 73 degrees and 30% humidity. Seems perfect.

 

[NREC34]

I think I'm getting better at this.

Thursday I ran 4.82 miles at an average 9:50 pace. 155 avg HR

Today, I ran 4.03 miles at an average 9:24 pace. 163 avg HR

For both runs, I was never uncomfortable. The first run was a long slow run but I was happy coming in under 10:00 avg. today's run I wanted more comfortable miles and was really happy to see the 9:24 avg. I mean really happy with myself. When I started this 6 weeks ago, 9:00 miles would kick my ### after 2 miles. Now I feel like I could run a 10k at a 9:30 pace with no problem.

does this mean I am getting in better shape?

Yes, it sounds like you are.

 

[Sand]

What is the "magic number" that runners talk about? I think it's been discussed on this thread. I believe it was temp+humidity, if I'm remembering it correctly. I don't remember what the optial range was.

Temp plus dew Point.Forget the ideal range but over 160 sucks.

Yep, thanks. That is what I was thinking of, just couldn't remember the exact explanation.

My race I have tomorrow is looking like 73 degrees and 30% humidity. Seems perfect.

Suck index of 113 - which is quite nice. When it gets to 140 it gets a bit tough and 150+ is pretty brutal.

 

[Ned]

Good thing to add to the OP....

Suck Index = temperature + dew point. The higher it is, the more it's gonna suck.

>150 - just try to survive the workout.

140-149 - getting pretty miserable.

130-139 - can feel it getting soupy out there, but manageable if you dial the effort back a bit to start.

120-129 - not too bad; can feel a bit of humidity.

110-119 - feels great; won't affect performance.

 

[AAABatteries]

I think my miles yesterday were around 130 on that index and I felt it. Did 6 miles with lots of hills - still having to do jogging/walking but mixing in some running on the flat areas. You guys are amazing with your times and distances.

 

[FUBAR]

Good thing to add to the OP....

Suck Index = temperature + dew point. The higher it is, the more it's gonna suck.

>150 - just try to survive the workout.

140-149 - getting pretty miserable.

130-139 - can feel it getting soupy out there, but manageable if you dial the effort back a bit to start.

120-129 - not too bad; can feel a bit of humidity.

110-119 - feels great; won't affect performance.

I think you can add 10 to each when cycling. Wind helps but it can still get nasty.

 

[tri-man 47]

I think my miles yesterday were around 130 on that index and I felt it. Did 6 miles with lots of hills - still having to do jogging/walking but mixing in some running on the flat areas. You guys are amazing with your times and distances.

Hills are such great training.

 

[AAABatteries]

I think my miles yesterday were around 130 on that index and I felt it. Did 6 miles with lots of hills - still having to do jogging/walking but mixing in some running on the flat areas. You guys are amazing with your times and distances.

Hills are such great training.

So, I know nothing about this - what is "normal" for total ascent/decent? My 6 miles included 322 ft of ascent - am I just a pansy or is that a lot?ETA - that was from Endomondo - no clue how accurate it is

 

[Ned]

Evaluating elevation is somewhat a personal thing, IMO. 322' is a small bump to someone like Duck, but to this Delawarean that's a pretty decent ascent for 6mi. I've always felt that anything that averages over 100'/mi is a pretty tough course.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Well, that 4-mile run today sucked. The conditions were great, but the course was just up one hill and down the other. People who like that sort of thing have something wrong with them and should talk to someone.

I started off well, but it eventually caught up with me about the 3.5 mile mark (which also happened to be the base of the largest hill on the course. I had nothing left in me and ended up breaking down and ended up having to walk from 3.5-3.75. According to the MapMyRun app, the hill rose about 170 feet over the quarter-mile. I don't know if that is a lot, but it sure as hell felt like it.

Split times:

09:20

08:44

09:28

11:38

My goal for the race was 09:30/mile. Aside from my physical breakdown, I'm pretty happy, having hit 09:45.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I agree with you, CCC. Hills are great for training, but I strongly prefer flat race courses.

 

[tri-man 47]

I started off well, but it eventually caught up with me about the 3.5 mile mark (which also happened to be the base of the largest hill on the course. I had nothing left in me and ended up breaking down and ended up having to walk from 3.5-3.75. According to the MapMyRun app, the hill rose about 170 feet over the quarter-mile. I don't know if that is a lot, but it sure as hell felt like it.

Live and learn ..live and learn. Good to know you're out there racing!

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I started off well, but it eventually caught up with me about the 3.5 mile mark (which also happened to be the base of the largest hill on the course. I had nothing left in me and ended up breaking down and ended up having to walk from 3.5-3.75. According to the MapMyRun app, the hill rose about 170 feet over the quarter-mile. I don't know if that is a lot, but it sure as hell felt like it.

Live and learn ..live and learn. Good to know you're out there racing!

Yep. I had your advice in mind the whole time that I was running, I PROMISE. In my limited experience and runs around the neighborhood, though, I never experienced anything like this course. I thought I was pacing myself well in the beginning. It was just simply too much for me.

 

[Ned]

170' over a quarter mile is NOT easy. Good job, CC!

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

170' over a quarter mile is NOT easy. Good job, CC!

Thank you, man!

 

[SFBayDuck]

I started off well, but it eventually caught up with me about the 3.5 mile mark (which also happened to be the base of the largest hill on the course. I had nothing left in me and ended up breaking down and ended up having to walk from 3.5-3.75. According to the MapMyRun app, the hill rose about 170 feet over the quarter-mile. I don't know if that is a lot, but it sure as hell felt like it.

Live and learn ..live and learn. Good to know you're out there racing!

Yep. I had your advice in mind the whole time that I was running, I PROMISE. In my limited experience and runs around the neighborhood, though, I never experienced anything like this course. I thought I was pacing myself well in the beginning. It was just simply too much for me.

I remember going through C25K back in '07 or so, and thinking this little slight incline in Golden Gate Park was my nemesis. Somedays I would avoid that part of the route, just not feeling up to it. I was there last month laughing about that, as you can barely tell it's even an incline when looking at it, but it felt like a monstrous hill to me back then.

Point being, it's all relative to your experience and training. And what you described sounds like a pretty hilly road course, which you haven't experienced much yet. Rolling terrain, to me, is ideal training as you get a slight variation in the biomechanics, and separate and equally important adaptations running up and down.

 

[FUBAR]

I'll enjoy my rest day / swim session tomorrow.

20 hard miles Friday, 62 yesterday, 33/7 today, my legs are fried. Took the first 28 minutes of today's run to find my legs at maf, around 8:15 pace. Then did 4x4 minutes easy/hm pace. Really had to push to hit 7:15-25 on the harder intervals, close to 9 on the easy.

 

[phatdawg]

One America 500 Festival Mini Marathon

The Mini, as many around here call it, is the largest HM in the U.S. and my first attempt at a race that distance. It was a wonderful day with the weather starting in the mid 50s and finishing in the low 60s by the time I finished. My goal was to finish, but I had a secondary hope to finish in anything under 2 hours. I missed my goal, which I will describe in some detail below, but I really enjoyed the race.

I finished in 2:03.47 (9:26 pace)

Miles 1-5: 8:56, 8:36, 8:34, 8:38, 8:53 = 43:37

In hindsight when I look at my race down the stretch and how I felt later, I guess I Sanded this a bit. My goal was to run somewhere in the 9:00 range, but I felt great and never felt like I was pushing the pace. The first mile was basically spent dodging people and trying not to collide with the 100 billion other people on the course. After that, it was cool listening to the bands that lined the course and just enjoying myself. I was amazed how quickly the first five miles went.

Miles 6-10: 9:11, 9:13, 9:19, 10:31*, 9:51 = 48:05

I slowed down a bit, but this is the stretch where we entered the Indianapolis Speedway and spent about 2 1/2 miles running around the track. I didn't stop to kiss the yard of bricks, but I did stop at a port-a-potty after leaving the Speedway (which accounts for the 10:31 mile). I felt like I left my legs at the track because I started fading at this point.

Miles 11-13.1: 10:06, 10:04, 10:53, 1:02 = 32:05

I checked my Garmin frequently here to see my pace and it kept creeping higher. After mile 11, I knew I was going to have a hard time hitting my goal time of 1:59.59, but I tried to pick up the pace for one last attempt. That lasted about a 1/4 mile and then I knew I should just do the best I could and be satisfied with finishing. I couldn't believe how slow my last mile was. The funny thing was that my breathing was comfortable the entire way and my heart rate felt comfortable, too (I wasn't wearing a monitor, however). My legs, on the other hand, were a different story.

Anyway, it was a pretty great day and I spent time reflecting on how far I've come. I started my Couch-to-5K a year and a day before this HM (and I took basically all of November and December off for no other reason that I was lazy). I definitely need to make improvements for next time, but I can't wait to lace up my shoes again and get out for a run.

I wasn't sure I would ever run a HM and I was pretty certain I would never run more than one. Now I am 100% sure I will run more ... in fact I'm signing up for the next year's Indy HM right away.

 

[SFBayDuck]

One America 500 Festival Mini Marathon

Anyway, it was a pretty great day and I spent time reflecting on how far I've come. I started my Couch-to-5K a year and a day before this HM (and I took basically all of November and December off for no other reason that I was lazy). I definitely need to make improvements for next time, but I can't wait to lace up my shoes again and get out for a run.

I wasn't sure I would ever run a HM and I was pretty certain I would never run more than one. Now I am 100% sure I will run more ... in fact I'm signing up for the next year's Indy HM right away.

Love reading this last part. Sorry you didn't quite meet your goal, but you came pretty damn close and it sounds like you learned a lot. And it's not uncommon for the cardiovascular system to be ahead of where your legs are, particularly for new(ish) runners. Introduce some hill work into your next half marathon training cycle for strength, and I bet you see some good gains.

Congrats!

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I started off well, but it eventually caught up with me about the 3.5 mile mark (which also happened to be the base of the largest hill on the course. I had nothing left in me and ended up breaking down and ended up having to walk from 3.5-3.75. According to the MapMyRun app, the hill rose about 170 feet over the quarter-mile. I don't know if that is a lot, but it sure as hell felt like it.

Live and learn ..live and learn. Good to know you're out there racing!

Yep. I had your advice in mind the whole time that I was running, I PROMISE. In my limited experience and runs around the neighborhood, though, I never experienced anything like this course. I thought I was pacing myself well in the beginning. It was just simply too much for me.

I remember going through C25K back in '07 or so, and thinking this little slight incline in Golden Gate Park was my nemesis. Somedays I would avoid that part of the route, just not feeling up to it. I was there last month laughing about that, as you can barely tell it's even an incline when looking at it, but it felt like a monstrous hill to me back then.

Point being, it's all relative to your experience and training. And what you described sounds like a pretty hilly road course, which you haven't experienced much yet. Rolling terrain, to me, is ideal training as you get a slight variation in the biomechanics, and separate and equally important adaptations running up and down.

Then you would have loved this course, you weirdo.

I follow this thread pretty closely, even when I'm not posting in it. I know that you're one of the ultra-marathon, 50k, etc. guys. It's incredible to me to find out that you started with a C25K program. I just assumed that you and the rest of the long distancers in here came out of the womb and hit the floor running.

You guys all have the respect of this 5K/9:30 mile "little guy".

 

[Ned]

One America 500 Festival Mini Marathon

Anyway, it was a pretty great day and I spent time reflecting on how far I've come. I started my Couch-to-5K a year and a day before this HM (and I took basically all of November and December off for no other reason that I was lazy). I definitely need to make improvements for next time, but I can't wait to lace up my shoes again and get out for a run.

I wasn't sure I would ever run a HM and I was pretty certain I would never run more than one. Now I am 100% sure I will run more ... in fact I'm signing up for the next year's Indy HM right away.

Love reading this last part. Sorry you didn't quite meet your goal, but you came pretty damn close and it sounds like you learned a lot. And it's not uncommon for the cardiovascular system to be ahead of where your legs are, particularly for new(ish) runners. Introduce some hill work into your next half marathon training cycle for strength, and I bet you see some good gains.

Congrats!

These stories never get old! Congrats, phatdawg!

 

[Annyong]

I ran with my 2 year old and stroller for about 3 miles yesterday. Holy hell, felt like I was continuously running uphill. Basically pushing around an extra 50lbs will do that.

 

[Hang 10]

I ran with my 2 year old and stroller for about 3 miles yesterday. Holy hell, felt like I was continuously running uphill. Basically pushing around an extra 50lbs will do that.

That's a big toddler.

 

[ChiefD]

Awesome job phatdawg! That's a great result.

 

[Annyong]

I ran with my 2 year old and stroller for about 3 miles yesterday. Holy hell, felt like I was continuously running uphill. Basically pushing around an extra 50lbs will do that.

That's a big toddler.

he is a little porker, but the stroller weighs like 30lbs.

 

[ChiefD]

Nice job CCC. You had that thing owned until that last big hill. Still very impressive.

 

[Brony]

phatdawg - nice race and great progression over the last year. I guess you could say that that 'pit stop' really hurt your time. BWWAAHHHH HA HA HA HA!

 

[FUBAR]

I ran with my 2 year old and stroller for about 3 miles yesterday. Holy hell, felt like I was continuously running uphill. Basically pushing around an extra 50lbs will do that.

That's a big toddler.

he is a little porker, but the stroller weighs like 30lbs.

yep. even our BOB, one of the better jogging strollers on the market, is around 25 lbs. Doesn't feel like it until you start uphill.