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It's funny, I had no idea what strava was back when we were trying to add garmin contacts. I wish I'd had known we could just join over there too months ago.You had already demonstrated your sluttiness:Yeah, I guess I did create an account too. How did you know?
Currently, I'm on #teamgarmin #teamnikeplus #teammapmyrun. I get around.
Thanks. When you get a chance, I'd love to have some feedback on your recovery; milestone stuff like weeks post surgery when you could run, rehab exercises you liked/hated, etc. I have been told to be patient, but I am not very good at this. I had my first PT visit today and the therapist seemed very excited to be working with an athlete, but did say she would be conservative at the start to keep me from re injuring myself. So today was just measuring my range of motion, gauging my strength and a whopping 12 minutes on the bike (which felt awesome).
If your goal is to BQ, in my opinion your best chance to get there is to put in the miles. You have plenty of speed and talent to BQ, you don't have the endurance yet. You say "I don't mind putting in the work", but for the marathon the work is the miles.
I was afraid you were going to say that. So you think Pfitzinger 18/70 is the way to go? 18/55 not enough?
Have to agree with pbm. I think all 3 of us are cut from similar cloths (fast twitchers). You train to improve on your weakness(es). As pbm said, you have more than enough speed; you need the endurance. The mileage is crucial since we're not as aerobically gifted as someone like Juxt.
I would go with the 18/70 over the 18/55. What I have done in the past is follow the last 12 weeks of Pfitz 18/70 plan. The six weeks prior to starting the plan I have built up my base up to 70 miles a week.
There's a ton going on at that website. I'm still discovering things after being on it for a year. Off the top of my head:
That's a great start, thank you.
I agree that 55 doesn't seem like enough, especially since I'm basically already there. I don't know that I want to live in the 60+ range during the heat of summer either though. I think somewhere in the middle would be a nice compromise. Like peak at 65 maybe?
You definitely make some fair points. Still not sold on getting to 60+ miles this soon though. I need to give this some thought.
Same here. On my end I relate it to cutting back on diet soda and increasing my water consumption.
Do what they tell you and take it slow. I realize you have a goal race in mind but be prepared mentally to adjust expectations if rehab isn't going according to plan. That said, what you had done is fairly routine and the recovery has been, in my experience, about a month off the hard stuff, ease back into routine and you are good to go.2Young2BBald said:
The good news is I did my first good workout here this morning. A: 1 minute air squats (be sure to go slightly below 90°), easy minute, 2 minutes at 5k pace, repeat until reaching 200 air squats. Took me 7 iterations. Then easy to 30 minutes
Yeah, the mantra around the house if "take it slow" with my wife and kids on me to slow down and, for the most part, I am obeying. While there is a goal race in late September, my real focus in on being able to sprint around XC courses watching my son this fall.
Which model did you try? They used to all be pretty "moon boot-y" and the Bondi and Stinson lines definitely still are very cushioned, but a lot of the newer models are really light and don't have that "squishy" feel. I rotate between the Stinson ATRs (most cushioned, use on long trail runs or focused downhill work), the Conquest (medium cushioning, more of a road shoe), the Mafate Speed (medium cushioning, good grip for muddy/technical trails), and my new favorite the Challenger ATR (really light but enough grip for trail running).
For my particular needs (normal foot, under pronation, need for cushion), they recommended Bondi and that's what I tried out. I can appreciate that not all shoes are created equal, but given that my symptoms can arise after a 1/2 mile jog, I'm very skeptical that a shoe will be the magic bullet for my particular condition.
I'm not a big believer in "shoes can fix it" mentality typically, as they don't address whatever actually is causing the problem. But if impact force is the problem, then I think Hokas could help.
And look at all of those people that got stress fractures and other injuries from minimalist shoes!
Didn't realize that. I'm still not inclined to pay over $100 for shoes but if they help prevent injury, they'd be worth it.Eta: I hadn't heard much about people getting stress fractures from the minimalist shoes. I'll presume they weren't using good form.
Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest downsides with the hokas. The sales don't seem to be as great for them as other shoe brands. Probably because they are so popular these days. The clifton is one of the cheaper shoes they sell though and IMO it's their best. Full price is $130 but they can be had for right around a $100.
Oh yeah, there were even studies done on it: Study: Vibram FiveFingers Lead to Greater Risk of Foot Bone Injury. And a class action lawsuit:- Shoes Are Not Magic: Vibram Agrees To $3.75 Million Class Action Settlement
Thanks Tri. I do have my share of experience with running pulls and tears from years ago and whatever I got, doesn't seem to be garden variety injury (not that yours is either!). Not giving up hope yet, but starting to run out of potential solutions. I plan to give the orthotics a few months to do their thing.
ran this route yesterday for the first time in awhile and was trying to push it a little harder.
Frost may well have been talking about cycling. I miss my old route - roads less traveled. Went out today to find a route, no matter which way I go there will be more traffic. I can probably do alright going north after the first few miles but I'll cross US-72 / Lee highway (go confederacy!) Which sucks.
Annoying as hell.
