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mr. furley
Footballguy
last winter, on a particularly brutal day, i wore two pair of gloves and had the same thought... they'll warm up. after 1/2 they were seriously starting to freeze but i kept going with the idea that they would warm up.
hit the mile mark and thought "if i don't turn around now.. i'm losing fingers"
made it home running as fast as i possibly could, hopping through the snow, skidding on the ice.... and had to fight to unlock the door. nothing was working from mid-palm up. like.. not bending at all. got in and stuck my hands under lukewarm water for about 20 minutes before things started to get right again.
not fun times
Ned
Footballguy
Been there, although you've probably run in more extreme temps than I have.One thing that helps my hands is moving them. I think keeping them in a fist restricts the blood flow since you're not using them. I'll randomly open/close them to the beat of my running cadence for a few minutes to keep the blood flowing.
mr. furley
Footballguy
really does wonders for your balance. seems to strengthen all those little muscles around your ankles. at least so far as i can tell.
my ankles can bench like 315
mr. furley
Footballguy
yes, that's one thing i learned for sure.
One thing that helps my hands is moving them. I think keeping them in a fist restricts the blood flow since you're not using them. I'll randomly open/close them to the beat of my running cadence for a few minutes to keep the blood flowing.
though, on that day i was flapping them like a baby bird and slamming them on my legs to improve flow.
now i wear a much thicker second pair on bad days..... like today.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Brony
Footballguy
but I run at 6 AM and I can't see which steps are icy are which are not.
<-- Not a black ice skeptic
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
This is insane. Good for you still getting it done, but I can't even comprehend that temperature. I've been in CT in January when it was a few degrees below zero for the week I was there, and I could barely breathe when I was outside.
This morning I waited until almost 9:00 to go run, since it was down to about 29 degrees last night and I wanted it to warm up a bit. Still some icy spots out there on the trails, but not bad at all - took off my gloves and beanie about a mile in.
mr. furley
Footballguy
that's what my wife says
the way i figure is "i won't be able to contain myself if i don't" and "i'll warm up eventually".
actually makes the long* runs easier, i think. i don't overheat. not trying to run too fast. keeps my breathing focused.
*relative to your long runs. which are actually insane
tri-man 47
Footballguy
@wazoo11 - We're very biased, but this thread is a great place, though the assumption is that you are considering running as a means of getting in shape. In that regard: Obviously a number of experienced (=insane) athletes here who run, bike, swim, and lift, but a number of newer runners+ swing by as well and get lots of support and advice ...and we love hearing of their successes. You can find a number of links on page 1 of this thread (mostly running related). Otherwise, feel free to post away! Let us know what you've done, what you're thinking of doing, and what questions you have.
Nigel
Footballguy
Admire the dedication...you training for something?that's what my wife says
the way i figure is "i won't be able to contain myself if i don't" and "i'll warm up eventually".
actually makes the long* runs easier, i think. i don't overheat. not trying to run too fast. keeps my breathing focused.
*relative to your long runs. which are actually insane
FUBAR
Footballguy
that's what my wife says
the way i figure is "i won't be able to contain myself if i don't" and "i'll warm up eventually".
actually makes the long* runs easier, i think. i don't overheat. not trying to run too fast. keeps my breathing focused.
*relative to your long runs. which are actually insane
we used to do this in Michigan, in college. But now? There's a reason we're in Alabama where they close everything down when it's 20 degrees with a chance of snow (which happened today - no snow)
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mr. furley
Footballguy
for not having a heart attack in a few yearsNigel said:
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Yeah we're expecting a rain storm this weekend in the Bay Area, and the lines at Safeway tonight were like people expecting the zombie apocalypse and buying all the canned goods and batteries. It is supposed to drop 8'-12" on us with some 40-60 mph wind gusts, but it's not like a hurricane is heading our way or anything.FUBAR said:
I hope, anyway.......
Should make for an interesting weekend to try and get some runs in. I have to fly to Vegas Sunday night through Wednesday night, and with a work agenda that runs 7:30 AM to 9:00 PM every day, and the inevitable "networking" in the evenings means training may not occur much, so I don't want to take zeros the next two days. But there is a reason I mapped out the official start of my WS100 training plan as the following Monday.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Seriously, Duck - hotels are great for extended lunges up and down the hallway. Or just some pool running. Or use the stairways for surrogate hill training. Then again, call them rest days and drink away.
wazoo11
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
has there been any discussion of methods to de-stinkify my running clothes?
washed last night and they still smell like i just finished a mid-afternoon summer run at the equator
washed last night and they still smell like i just finished a mid-afternoon summer run at the equator
Ned
Footballguy
Buy a small ozone generator - sometimes called a fruit washer. Put the stank clothes in a plastic tub along with the ozone gadget. Run for 20-30mins covered. Turn it off and open tub outside to let it air out.
Ozone will kill the odor. It is harmful to breathe in so don't let it air out indoors. It can also destroy rubber and elastic so limit the number of times you do it or else your waiste bands will fall apart.
Its totally safe to do if you keep it to short periods of time. I use it all the time on my hunting gear.
Brony
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
For technical fabrics like Dri-Fit, I always use a detergent meant for them like Nikwax or Nathan Penguin. That seems to help with the odor.
For regular clothes, we just throw a half cup of baking soda into the washer with the detergent. We buy the 13.5 lb bag from Costco and keep that by the washer.
Sand
Footballguy
Same ice here. I just spent the last hour sliding down frozen roads with my kid.
I've got a looooong stride today!
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Hamstring/butt area is still tender but slowly getting better.
Pleased I grinded out 8 miles yesterday and another 10 today with both windchills around 10 degrees. Just trying to tread water here with my fitness until March and there is light and warmer temps.
I'll lift and hit the stairmaster at the gym for an hour tomorrow. Wish there was a way for Strava to give me credit!
Pleased I grinded out 8 miles yesterday and another 10 today with both windchills around 10 degrees. Just trying to tread water here with my fitness until March and there is light and warmer temps.
I'll lift and hit the stairmaster at the gym for an hour tomorrow. Wish there was a way for Strava to give me credit!
Ned
Footballguy
You can manually enter it as a workout in the activity type field.Hamstring/butt area is still tender but slowly getting better.
Pleased I grinded out 8 miles yesterday and another 10 today with both windchills around 10 degrees. Just trying to tread water here with my fitness until March and there is light and warmer temps.
I'll lift and hit the stairmaster at the gym for an hour tomorrow. Wish there was a way for Strava to give me credit!
Nigel
Footballguy
Just got kind of blindsided at my cardiologist appt. The EKG showed I'm in a state of atrial flutter, similar to afib but without the soaring heart rates. not sure how long it's been going on. Been feeling great, haven't noticed it.
So I need to get back on blood thinner and beta blocker immediately, come in next week for a cardioversion (knock me out, shock my heart) to get me back in sinus rhythm, then think about when to get another ablation. Without it this will likely progress back to the recurring bouts of afib I had before. I guess all of this is not too uncommon, but pretty disappointing. I'd thought enough time had passed to deem the first ablation a complete success but apparently not.
So I need to get back on blood thinner and beta blocker immediately, come in next week for a cardioversion (knock me out, shock my heart) to get me back in sinus rhythm, then think about when to get another ablation. Without it this will likely progress back to the recurring bouts of afib I had before. I guess all of this is not too uncommon, but pretty disappointing. I'd thought enough time had passed to deem the first ablation a complete success but apparently not.
Brony
Footballguy
it's crushing to get this kind of news. Sorry man. Good that you are ahead of it, but an unexpected setback nonetheless. Be patient. Be thankful that you are staying on top of your heart and get better.
Sorry about all that.
Brony
Footballguy
Here’s an update of where I’m at in my rehab process.
Recap of the old prob: Running causes pain in the back of right calf. No running, no pain. More running, more pain. Historically, if I did more than ½ mile of running (or soccer etc), I’d know it the next day. Usually no pain while running, but when I got up to 4 to 6 miles, there was a good chance I’d feel a tear like a muscle pull during the run. Always the same spot – outside upper corner of right calf. Usually the pain comes in 2 forms – (1) dull aching pain that lasts through the day and remain for 3 to 6 days after a run and (2) acute pain like a muscle tear or pull that would rear its head when getting out of car or stepping weird. Neither of the pains were ever severe; just constant reminders that running was making things worse. Had this problem forever (20+ years now) and it’s never really changed no matter what I’ve tried.
I started working with a new MD in October to fix a lingering ankle problem, which he did. :thumbsup: Once ankle problem was resolved, we started to tackle the calf in December. His working diagnosis is peroneal nerve entrapment. I started up running again in December. Nice thing is that the plantar flexion exercises I was doing for my ankle (see yoga ankle reclining) helped reduce the dull aching pain with running. (Progress?!). So now when I run, I’m good while running for the most part as I was before, but I’m still feeling incredibly tight in that upper calf post run. We’ve tried 1 fix that had me leaning against a wall and doing calf stretches driving my hips forward and side to side. Did that 6 to 10 times a day at about 30 a pop. Didn’t help much. We’re now on fix #2 and it seems to be moving things a little. Fix #2 is also an attempt to remodel the muscles and tissues and that’s an active calf stretch with my foot locked against a wall. Kinda like this. Obviously, I’ve done hamstring stretches to try and stretch this in the past. Difference here is rocking it instead of holding it and doing it 100’s of times per day trying to get the muscles remodeled. It’s working a little bit, and I’m cautiously optimistic as we seem to be progressing some which hasn’t happened in a while.
I’m upping the mileage slowly and balancing pain & tightness while seeing if the stretches are aiding. I’m up to 3 miles now every other day. I still get some tightness after the run, but the intensity seems to be diminishing some compared to history. Also, the day after a run I’m close to 100%, so that’s been a nice change as I haven’t had that in a long, long time.
I go for massage this afternoon and hoping that clears some of the residual nodules and knots in the muscles.
[SIZE=11pt]so, cautiously optimistic for now, but I’ve been re-habbing this thing for years without any kind of results, and hence, skeptical too.[/SIZE]
Recap of the old prob: Running causes pain in the back of right calf. No running, no pain. More running, more pain. Historically, if I did more than ½ mile of running (or soccer etc), I’d know it the next day. Usually no pain while running, but when I got up to 4 to 6 miles, there was a good chance I’d feel a tear like a muscle pull during the run. Always the same spot – outside upper corner of right calf. Usually the pain comes in 2 forms – (1) dull aching pain that lasts through the day and remain for 3 to 6 days after a run and (2) acute pain like a muscle tear or pull that would rear its head when getting out of car or stepping weird. Neither of the pains were ever severe; just constant reminders that running was making things worse. Had this problem forever (20+ years now) and it’s never really changed no matter what I’ve tried.
I started working with a new MD in October to fix a lingering ankle problem, which he did. :thumbsup: Once ankle problem was resolved, we started to tackle the calf in December. His working diagnosis is peroneal nerve entrapment. I started up running again in December. Nice thing is that the plantar flexion exercises I was doing for my ankle (see yoga ankle reclining) helped reduce the dull aching pain with running. (Progress?!). So now when I run, I’m good while running for the most part as I was before, but I’m still feeling incredibly tight in that upper calf post run. We’ve tried 1 fix that had me leaning against a wall and doing calf stretches driving my hips forward and side to side. Did that 6 to 10 times a day at about 30 a pop. Didn’t help much. We’re now on fix #2 and it seems to be moving things a little. Fix #2 is also an attempt to remodel the muscles and tissues and that’s an active calf stretch with my foot locked against a wall. Kinda like this. Obviously, I’ve done hamstring stretches to try and stretch this in the past. Difference here is rocking it instead of holding it and doing it 100’s of times per day trying to get the muscles remodeled. It’s working a little bit, and I’m cautiously optimistic as we seem to be progressing some which hasn’t happened in a while.
I’m upping the mileage slowly and balancing pain & tightness while seeing if the stretches are aiding. I’m up to 3 miles now every other day. I still get some tightness after the run, but the intensity seems to be diminishing some compared to history. Also, the day after a run I’m close to 100%, so that’s been a nice change as I haven’t had that in a long, long time.
I go for massage this afternoon and hoping that clears some of the residual nodules and knots in the muscles.
[SIZE=11pt]so, cautiously optimistic for now, but I’ve been re-habbing this thing for years without any kind of results, and hence, skeptical too.[/SIZE]
worrierking
Footballguy
Dang, Nigel. Sorry to hear. Hang in there. Fix the most important parts first. Then check all the other things off the list.
Good news Brony. That calf had you thinking you were finished, didn't it? Good to see you have some hope.
Good news Brony. That calf had you thinking you were finished, didn't it? Good to see you have some hope.
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Ned
Footballguy
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Dang, Nigel, you just can't catch a break. Really sorry to hear about the heart issue. Take the long view ...take the long view.
Maybe after your Boston run, they shoulda just left you in that sauna to melt away.
Maybe after your Boston run, they shoulda just left you in that sauna to melt away.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
"We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster."
pbm107
Footballguy
How is the ankle? I noticed you have done more riding than running lately.@pbm107 I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll be able to join you for the Shamrock marathon. Past 2 weeks my ankle has felt pretty decent. Worse comes to worse and I suffer a setback, I think I'm going target the Coastal Delaware Running Festival marathon at the end of April but I'd rather stay home and run with a fellow FBG.
Ned
Footballguy
I hope @Hang 10 is doing better than I am. My motivation has cratered. My ankle is so-so, but I just don't have the drive to jump into another training cycle right now. I don't know what it is, but its clear I'm on the same cycle over and over again where my running tapers off in that Dec-Feb time frame. Actually being on the shelf has made it worse, I think.
Ned
Footballguy
pbm107
Footballguy
That sucks and the weather has been really good around here recently so you are kind of missing out on a nice opportunity. It is so difficult to get started back up after a break especially if you aren't 100%. I do find getting out to run when the sun is out every once in a while helps with my motivation.
I am over whatever issue I had over the summer, and seem to be responding well to the base building. Since I don't have a chance of getting a PR in March I will likely stick with the easy running. I may incorporate some hills and strides as I get closer to race day.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I've been in some good cross training routines (had a mile swim workout on Monday; 65 minutes on the stationary bike on Tuesday) before getting hit with a massive head cold ...slept 11 hours last night.
Since I'm not in a run training cycle, but want to compete, I've been eyeing one of two half IMs up in Grand Rapids, my home town and where we have a summer cottage. Both races use roads that I've run on over the years, so it'd be familiar turf. The swims would be in small lakes, which gives them a rather controlled environment. June 11 for one; August 20 for the other. Hmm. I'll decide by the end of March when the discounted pricing expires for one of them (and when I'll have more confidence in my training). Oddly, the endurance aspect of a half IM feels more enticing than the 'speed' aspect of an Olympic tri.
Since I'm not in a run training cycle, but want to compete, I've been eyeing one of two half IMs up in Grand Rapids, my home town and where we have a summer cottage. Both races use roads that I've run on over the years, so it'd be familiar turf. The swims would be in small lakes, which gives them a rather controlled environment. June 11 for one; August 20 for the other. Hmm. I'll decide by the end of March when the discounted pricing expires for one of them (and when I'll have more confidence in my training). Oddly, the endurance aspect of a half IM feels more enticing than the 'speed' aspect of an Olympic tri.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Sounds awesome. I forgot you were another native Michigander.
(Oakland County here, near Royal oak). I've been enjoying this cycle of MAF. just cranking out some decent mileage (109 for the year) and building the base. Can't use the bike right now because I haven't ordered tubes, I will at some point but right now it's all about the (slowish) run.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I'm worried that if you wait too long you'll have to risk the possible warm weather of a late spring marathon.Ned said:
