I haven't responded hardly at all, but I've been following all of you guys progress in here, but this PR will last less than 18 months. You are a talented runner who hasn't even scratched the surface yet.I think this PR will stand for quite sometime.
This place makes running truly special. It’s like I’m a little kid and want to just come tell you guys all about it. The support in here is amazing.
 and nice work. You’ve made some good points so far, chiefly this one.I haven't responded hardly at all, but I've been following all of you guys progress in here, but this PR will last less than 18 months. You are a talented runner who hasn't even scratched the surface yet.
Great job.
Good stuff, man. Congrats on the great race.I thought of y’all throughout this race. This place makes running truly special. It’s like I’m a little kid and want to just come tell you guys all about it. The support in here is amazing. Oh yea, @bushdocda, you’re a real BMF. Congrats to you and all the hard work you put in for this race.
Pretty bad ### effort. Especially for a vegan.Treasure Coast Halloween Half Marathon
If you are going from 32 to 40, which I think is doable, I would slow down your paces and take it easy on the hills.I didn't want to jump directly into a 40 mile week (and it would have been difficult anyway), but I was able to run 5/7 days this past week with every run except 1 being over 6 miles. Hit 32 miles for the week and felt pretty good.
I'll see if I can hit 40 for the week for the first time either this week or next. But even if not, I'm not really stressing about it and will just try and get out as much as I can/want. I'm also going to embrace the hills around me and not avoid elevation as much as possible. I know they help overall and I might as well just get used to it. The lovely weather lately certainly helps.
R - 3:49:59 yeah every second matters!  28 min PRThanks.If you are going from 32 to 40, which I think is doable, I would slow down your paces and take it easy on the hills.
Here is what I see...... Increase of 25% in mileage + additional hills + faster running = possible injury. Just do one of these at a time.
Admittedly, if you look at my weekly mileage, I bounce all around from 50 to 85+ MPW, but my body is used to it. I still don't think I could do back to back to back 80 mile weeks. So you just want to be careful you don't stress your body too much.
Don't read much into your paces if they're faster - the conditions you've been running on the last 6 months have been slightly different than what you'll do over the next 2.Thanks.
First, I have hills and elevation all around me. When I try to find a route (I'm always looking for variations on what I run), I've always tried to avoid as much as possible because there's so much to begin with. What I meant is that now I'll just run whatever route and not try to do that. That likely means that a run might have 400 ft total instead of 300 ft total, not that I'm going from flat to hills. I'm very used to running them even though I hate them and they still are my biggest challenge. But I always run them slowly during my normal runs.
As for speed, I haven't really been running faster I don't think. All my runs have been in the 9's. My 8 mile run in the park was close to 10:00. I only had one faster run and it was the first one of the week where it's completely flat and my wife and I hadn't run in a week. I've been taking it easy. My pace may have crept up a little but a lot of that is a function of the cooler weather as my effort has remained very easy on all but 1 run (that first one). My HR has been 140's to low 150's and I plan on keeping it that way. Trust me, I'm enjoying the low effort runs.
I know about the 10% increase rule but I feel pretty comfortable hitting 40 at this point as I do plan on taking it easy and I've been in the mid 30's a couple times (was at 37 a couple months ago). I'm also getting a good sense of what feels good and what doesn't. I had one run this week of only 3 miles. But, I was initially planning on 6 and my body wasn't having it that day so I just called it after 3 and went back the next day. Overall, I feel better after this week of 32 miles than I did after some lower mileage weeks mid HM plan.
Trust me, I'm definitely trying to be smart about what I do. I'm not looking to hit a specific number just to hit it and will back it off for sure if it seems like too much.
T&PsQuick 2-day in-and-out to NYC for a work conference. Caught the train from the financial district to Central Park this morning for a quick 10K loop. Always one of my favorite places to run.
T-minus 5 days to Indy. Current forecast says overnight low of 39° on Friday, cloudy with a high of 53° on Saturday. Should mean that I'll be running in the mid 40s.
It was 4C (39F) for my run Sunday and it was glorious. A little chilly for the first few minutes but after that, fantastic.T&Ps
Congrats on a great training cycle, and awesome race execution.43rd Marine Corps Marathon report out
TLR - 3:49:59 yeah every second matters! 28 min PR
I had done the work spelled out by the Hanson beginner program in the yellow book.
Zasada said:It was 4C (39F) for my run Sunday and it was glorious. A little chilly for the first few minutes but after that, fantastic.
 Thanks Juxt - I wouldn't mind trying to complete dos marathons in 2019. Salisbury, MD in April and Richmond, VA in November would be the 2 i'd consider as local enough/flat/fast. I'd probably pull a shorter 12-14 week cycle for the April one so i can be off plan longer and just run. I am going to listen to the guidance to take 2 weeks off from running but will probably find a race to end the year. The community college i run on all the time has a turkey trot i probably have to do.Juxtatarot said:@bushdocda Congrats again! Breaking 4:00 is a big milestone. What are your racing plans for next year?
It takes me months to mentally recover from a marathon and look at this #### after just 32 hours. Impressive.Thanks Juxt - I wouldn't mind trying to complete dos marathons in 2019. Salisbury, MD in April and Richmond, VA in November would be the 2 i'd consider as local enough/flat/fast. I'd probably pull a shorter 12-14 week cycle for the April one so i can be off plan longer and just run. I am going to listen to the guidance to take 2 weeks off from running but will probably find a race to end the year. The community college i run on all the time has a turkey trot i probably have to do.
Anyway, I like the idea of adding more experience at the distance with the April race and then focusing afterward on speed and races to make some serious improvement to my 5k and get way closer to 20 minutes from my 21:31 in July. A ~20 minute 5k would have me training at paces to stretch my fitness out for a ~3:30 marathon in November with a training cycle starting in July/August depending on race date.
Congrats Jshare. Well done.Guys, I’m a bad mother f##### again. 128:54! 1st in AG. 4th Overall.
I have a 0.0 sticker on my car. It’s awesomeNo offense to anyone but every time I see someone with a "13.1" sticker on the back of their vehicle I crack up.
Hey look at me! I did part of a big accomplishment and I want you to know it! What's also funny is they're all adults.
I'm going to push back on this.No offense to anyone but every time I see someone with a "13.1" sticker on the back of their vehicle I crack up.
Hey look at me! I did part of a big accomplishment and I want you to know it! What's also funny is they're all adults.
I'm glad I didn't hit submit on what I wrote last night because it'd have been way less level headed than this - so, thank you. In a world consumed with negativity there is one constant place I find positivity - the running community. Whether it's this thread, the friendships I've developed locally, long time friends that have taken it on as their bodies can no longer handle other activities or it was their way to get in shape in the first place, or within my own house. My start is so long ago I only have faint memories of my beginning, but having watched my wife go from smoker ten years ago to couch to 5K six years ago to finishing her first marathon 9 days ago...with each step on each individual's journey comes its own levels of terrified. And with every box checked that intangible feeling of satisfaction that is almost too quickly followed up with the thought of what's next. But regardless of where you are in your own journey there's no place for judgment and negativity in this game. I have no idea where others are in their own progression. Nor should I. Unless they want me to know. Because ultimately it's about you bettering the old you.I'm going to push back on this.
One of the things I like about the running community is it is generally really supportive. Each runner is in a different place in their journey. For some, losing 150 lbs and being able to trudge through a 5K is a huge accomplishment. For others, completing a half marathon is a huge deal. Meanwhile others run 26.2 or ultras.
I really try not to judge any runner on their distance achieved or their pace. Running is very personal and I commend ANYONE who will get out there and try to improve themselves.
We have some people in this thread who are working towards a half marathon and for them, its a HUGE deal. So to put that accomplishment down is not in the spirit of this thread or running in general.
I'm running a 50 miler in a few weeks and I'll admit I'm relatively terrified at the prospect. And guess what? 8 years ago, I started this journey with running and I was TERRIFIED of running a half marathon.
Let's all support each other.
We have some people in this thread who are working towards a half marathon and for them, its a HUGE deal. So to put that accomplishment down is not in the spirit of this thread or running in general.
 Love this story. And sometimes its the little things that keep a guy going. Whatever it takes to keep the legs moving.I used those two words as fuel for the following three hours.
As a driver who almost ran over a runner (who didn't have any lights) on the street the other morning, please wear some kind of light. I use a headlamp on the trails and plan to use one if I ever decide to run in the dark.It's been awhile on this: What are people doing for early morning running light wise? Nothing? Clip-on head lamp?
I've only recently gone on roads when it's pitch black and yesterday just carried this little light. I thought it was clip-on, but it's not.
Next week with daylight savings, I'll get some light back, but then need it in Dec and Jan.
https://www.noxgear.com/tracer360It's been awhile on this: What are people doing for early morning running light wise? Nothing? Clip-on head lamp?
I've only recently gone on roads when it's pitch black and yesterday just carried this little light. I thought it was clip-on, but it's not.
Next week with daylight savings, I'll get some light back, but then need it in Dec and Jan.
To be clear, this is more TO BE SEEN than to see. Pair it with a headlamp.
Depends on where I'm running. I often dark run without any light, but when I do I choose a route that's 100% sidewalk and if I approach an intersection with a car I assume they can't see me and turn another direction - almost exclusively sticking to residential and avoiding main roads. These are usually easy runs, so I don't have to worry much about getting fatigued and making a dumb decision. If I'm doing a workout then I'll light-up though. I go out with a similar mindset (they can't see me) but I also know my decision making isn't as sharp later in the run.It's been awhile on this: What are people doing for early morning running light wise? Nothing? Clip-on head lamp?
I've only recently gone on roads when it's pitch black and yesterday just carried this little light. I thought it was clip-on, but it's not.
Next week with daylight savings, I'll get some light back, but then need it in Dec and Jan.
Completely agree. Happened to me yesterday. She couldn't have been more than 5'3" and 110 lbs.Love this story. And sometimes its the little things that keep a guy going. Whatever it takes to keep the legs moving.
What's your pacing plan? Did your coach give you any guidance on how to pace it?Last little tune-up workout this morning before Saturday’s race:
1 x 1 mile at 6:40/mile
1 x 3/4-mile at 6:34/mile
3 x 1/4-mile at 6:14/6:18/6:13
2-minute rest between intervals.
Easy 4-miler tomorrow, and then all that’s left between me and the race is an easy shakeout run on Friday afternoon when I get to Indy. Starting to get nervous... 
I’m a little hesitant to put this out there, but #### it. Hoping for 1:29:30 (which should feel pretty easy) for the first half and 1:28:30 or a tad faster (which won’t) for the second half.What's your pacing plan? Did your coach give you any guidance on how to pace it?
I hope you’re just trolling, but regardless, that’s a pretty douchey thing to say.No offense to anyone but every time I see someone with a "13.1" sticker on the back of their vehicle I crack up.
Hey look at me! I did part of a big accomplishment and I want you to know it! What's also funny is they're all adults.
Thank you sir. Much to the chagrin of ChiefD, I usually keep to a running path that has no vehicles, so no safety issues outside of skunks in the dark. But, as of late, I've started to venture off this path, so I appreciate the idea and the link.