ChiefD
Footballguy
Good luck this weekend. You will probably be your normal consistent self.
Get you some!
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Get you some!
ChiefD
Footballguy
Decided not to sign up for Carmel next year. Or the Monumental in Indy this fall. Unfortunately I have to heed my wife’s wishes for now.
To me honest, and I am just venting to you guys here because I cannot at home - I’m mad.
This year so far has been so great. I broke through - FINALLY - at Carmel and then backed it up two weeks later. I feel great. I am recovered from those two races and ready to fully prepare for the relay for the next 30 days. That Carmel race brought be through that mental barrier, and my mind is craving more.
Alas, I cannot upset the home life. So for now, the plan is to run a half this fall. The goal there will be 1:42 ish.
I will definitely sign up for Chicago 2020. Enough time will pass and kids will be a year older. And I will have to train in the morning.
Will also do a spring 2020 half. The goal there will be sub 1:40. Which will hopefully set me up for a great Chicago cycle.
Time for the relay and some base building after that.
To me honest, and I am just venting to you guys here because I cannot at home - I’m mad.
This year so far has been so great. I broke through - FINALLY - at Carmel and then backed it up two weeks later. I feel great. I am recovered from those two races and ready to fully prepare for the relay for the next 30 days. That Carmel race brought be through that mental barrier, and my mind is craving more.
Alas, I cannot upset the home life. So for now, the plan is to run a half this fall. The goal there will be 1:42 ish.
I will definitely sign up for Chicago 2020. Enough time will pass and kids will be a year older. And I will have to train in the morning.
Will also do a spring 2020 half. The goal there will be sub 1:40. Which will hopefully set me up for a great Chicago cycle.
Time for the relay and some base building after that.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
I got by with basically one Oly-tri a year for a handful of years when my kids were growing up ...roughly the age of your kids. The long-term goal was to be competing well in the years when they were old enough to really enjoy it (and drive pops home from his races!). I'm sure it is frustrating to you after the great breakthroughs you've had. But try to take the long view and enjoy these years with the fam. You can run forever, but you'll never get these years back.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Good luck to the weekend racers! Go get ‘em boys!
The Iguana
Footballguy
Let's do this!
bushdocda
Footballguy
JAA
Footballguy
I do have beet root powder. Does that play?
I finished Dune the movie, I am now about an hour into Congo, and I think I finished my sixth: energy gel shot. I guess I forgot the vodka, my bad.
The Iguana
Footballguy
I hurt a little. Didn't go as well as I hoped but I did PR. More later.
JAA
Footballguy
Later? Later?!?
Some of us don’t have the patience to wait. Stop making this about you and start making it about us. You have an obligation to the Internet. The sooner you realize that, the sooner we will all be able to hear about the BMF Escapades!
JAA
Footballguy
Did you really burn 2000 cal in that race? That feels like a heckuva lot. Is your watch set up correctly?
ChiefD
Footballguy
La di da I went out just a month after an awesome half marathon and then ran another half marathon that hurt a little but PR’d anyway......
The Iguana
Footballguy
I have never done anything to setup/calibrate Garmin or Strava for anything to do with calories. It fills that info in but I never really look at it. What "should" it be? Also, not sure how to set up the watch for that. Probably should see what my watch has me weighing. Not sure Garmin gets that info so if that is off, could be why it is so high.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I'm a bit bummed right now and internally fighting with what I should do.
Left achilles is aching. Same one I hurt last October. I felt it during the 2nd half of my run yesterday and was really disappointed when I felt it.
The good thing is that last time I woke up barely able to walk. That's not the case now, but I definitely feel it's not right. It doesn't hurt which is at least a good thing.
I have a scheduled 30 min tempo run today and a scheduled 10 mile run tomorrow.
1) Run today and abort with any significant discomfort. If I can get through that and see how it feels tomorrow, then I'll have a better idea how to move forward. It's a short enough run overall.
2) Rest today, stretch it, then run tomorrow. This worries me as a 10 mile run could shelf me for a while if it doesn't respond well.
3) Don't run today or tomorrow or until it feels better. This is probably the safest play but I'm not excited about losing mileage and fitness. Of course, if I'm not healthy, it doesn't matter either way.
I have enough time based on the last time I had this to rest it and get it better if things don't go well.
Open to ideas. :(
Left achilles is aching. Same one I hurt last October. I felt it during the 2nd half of my run yesterday and was really disappointed when I felt it.
The good thing is that last time I woke up barely able to walk. That's not the case now, but I definitely feel it's not right. It doesn't hurt which is at least a good thing.
I have a scheduled 30 min tempo run today and a scheduled 10 mile run tomorrow.
1) Run today and abort with any significant discomfort. If I can get through that and see how it feels tomorrow, then I'll have a better idea how to move forward. It's a short enough run overall.
2) Rest today, stretch it, then run tomorrow. This worries me as a 10 mile run could shelf me for a while if it doesn't respond well.
3) Don't run today or tomorrow or until it feels better. This is probably the safest play but I'm not excited about losing mileage and fitness. Of course, if I'm not healthy, it doesn't matter either way.
I have enough time based on the last time I had this to rest it and get it better if things don't go well.
Open to ideas. :(
bushdocda
Footballguy
Could just be response to intensity of late. I’d go for an easy one today to loosen up and test a bit up tempo if you warm up/loosen up. Then decide tomorrow later or tomorrow. And if it doesn’t loosen up then rest/assess Sunday.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
My only advice is to make sure to roll and stretch your calves. Hopefully it isn't anything that lingers.
bushdocda
Footballguy
to this. Using the Stick to do something like this vid below and couple that with a spikey ball for the feets that @Bronysuggested at one point. https://youtu.be/vA3gQst-oJ4
JAA
Footballguy
Make sure your age/height/weight and HR zones are setup.The Iguana said:
I have never done anything to setup/calibrate Garmin or Strava for anything to do with calories. It fills that info in but I never really look at it. What "should" it be? Also, not sure how to set up the watch for that. Probably should see what my watch has me weighing. Not sure Garmin gets that info so if that is off, could be why it is so high.
JAA
Footballguy
I’ve been dealing with an Achilles. My wife tells me it’s from over use and over stretching.gianmarco said:
I’ve stopped deep stretching it. Less deep pedal work on the bike (more ball work) and be careful running up hill. Even make sure to not take steps with the deep stretch, more like a calf raise. Finally, take ibuprofen before big runs and when it’s sore.
It was bad for a while. Like bothered me after swims. That’s a real bad sign and I was worried. I just tried to not aggravate it and kept up with the light stretching.
Its been like 4-6 weeks and I finally think it’s turn the corner. When it’s an overuse injury you don’t have many choices if you don’t just simply stop using it
JAA
Footballguy
This week has been my longest week ever, 15hrs (and 10 min!).
Im beat. I have found out my body and mind LOVE caffeine. It’s ok in my GU/blocks but amazing when I take my caffeine pills. Like crazy high awesome.
So excited for my off day tomorrow. I may even get wasted on 3 beers tonight :drunk:
On a more somber and rational moment, my race will be about 13-14hr long in a single day. It’s taken me 6 days to put in the same effort and I’m spent. Pass the
Im beat. I have found out my body and mind LOVE caffeine. It’s ok in my GU/blocks but amazing when I take my caffeine pills. Like crazy high awesome.
So excited for my off day tomorrow. I may even get wasted on 3 beers tonight :drunk:
On a more somber and rational moment, my race will be about 13-14hr long in a single day. It’s taken me 6 days to put in the same effort and I’m spent. Pass the
Brony
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Whew.bushdocda said:
Tempo run went fine. Little achy first couple minutes then felt fine the rest of the run. Higher cadence with lesser impact helped.
I iced and stretched a bit this morning before heading out. Test will be how this feels tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
If it's just a result of what you said/fatigue/overuse, I can deal with that and run through it. I'll rest it after the relay and 5K shortly after.
Thanks, guys.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
So this is beyond what I do. I use a 3-3 pattern for most of my running, but that means the exhale is always on the same side. For my 13+ mile run today, I used her 3-2 pattern, and it was just fine (caveat: I don't run with headphones and music ..that might only work with a repeat loop of Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"). To do the 3-2 well, it helped to focus on a deliberate, sustained exhale for two steps before an easy inhale of the three steps. The exhale was deep, using the mouth/full throat (deep throat? tee hee), not a shallow exhale that's partly through the nose. While the 3-2 went well, I found I did concentrate more on the pattern ...but that's one of her points. The breathing is actively integrated into the running pattern, and I believe that's a good thing. For some modest hills, I naturally switched to a 2-2 pattern, then settled back to the 3-2 soon after. All in all, I like it.SteelCurtain said:
JAA
Footballguy
I pm’d you picks of my ball work so you could see it with the necessary level of detail.
Brony
Footballguy
bushdocda
Footballguy
Drove about an hour across the Bay Bridge this morn to take my long run on the upcoming race course. Saw most the course except for a when I took a wrong turn and then skipped a loop so I didn’t end up with too much extra mileage. Nice and flat but with a good number of turns but les than I took this morning. Will dig into the data/route more for planning purposes over the next 2 weeks and set some pacing checkpoints and fuel plan. Last stretch has a long out and back loop that will not feel as long having run it. Should be a fast finish. Pretty big race so I’m pumped I just scored a cancelled room up the road so race morning just got much easier. 2 workouts this week and then 10 day taper are on deck. Enjoy the weekend gents.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Let's put something down while I remember it...
Prerace:
Woke up early, went back to sleep and and the got up with the alarm at 4:45. Had a little dump, got dressed and headed downtown. Parked about a mile from the start, had a nice little neurostim jog to about the starting area and found a bank of porta-potties for a 2nd pit stop. Made my way to the starting area about 20 minutes or so before start time - about perfect for some stretching and to get as good a spot as I could to avoid traffic. Also had a nice chat with an older gentleman who was running in his 35th Indy mini marathon, and he aspirations of running this one in about 1:45.
Enough of that... On to the race...
mile 1: 7:21, HR 149- whoops? Considering all the bobbing and weaving I did in the first 3/4s or so of the mile, this might have been a bit much, adrenaline was high and I did say I wanted to find my breaking point... By the end of the mile, I more or less had space and had actually run 1.04 miles by the time I hit the mile marker - time based on actual 1 mile on the watch.
mile 2: 7:25, HR 164 - still running with the crowd and feeling pumped. Turned this one out too fast also. HR seemed high too. Made myself concentrate a bit on planned pace at this point...
miles 3, 4, 5: 7:37, 7:37, 7:40, HR 166, 169, 170 - this is the planned pace and I felt good but that HR was a bit much. By the end of 5, I am still thinking that 1:39:59 is still possible but a little worried.
Mile 6: 7:53, HR 170 - Things were still great until near the end of this mile. The course went under the track into the inner part of Indianapolis Motor Speedway (IMS). It is a ramp down and back up. On the downslope they were warning of it being slink, an the way up it is a short semi steep climb and the first ***** in my armor appeared. Mile time ended a little slower but I hoped a little refresh and I'd be good to go...
mile 7: 8:00, HR 171 - this is one of the coolest miles I have ever run. As you enter the track at IMS, they have the Memorial Mile. Both sides of the track are lined with placards honoring members of the military. I knew I was in a little trouble when I finished that mile and wasn't under 8 for the first time. It's a pretty motivational thing but I was starting to fade a little.
Mile 8: 7:53, HR 171 - came back a little here. This is still all on the track and you cross the famous "yard of bricks" at the start/finish line for the Indy 500. Pretty neat to run through there. Just before the end of the mile, I got tired of my 12 lb soaked shirt and took it off. Sexy Bert with no shirt, WOO! Pitched it somewhere along the side of the track.
mile 9: 8:17, HR 173 - out of the track, back on the road. Serious test of fortitude. A little disappointed in myself... I walked a drink station near the end of this mile, not because I was thirsty but because I hurt. Looked down and saw my HR near 180 at this point. Brief walk and drink, thoughts of writing this up and back at it.
Mile 10: 7:51, HR 169 - back at it and telling myself that, although 1:39:59 isn't happening, PR and sub 1:43 is still in play... Only 3 to go... Get some... All that good stuff in my head...
mile 11: 8:14, HR 165 - another breakdown in mental fortitude. Near the end I walked another drink station... Same reason. That was also near the end of the mile. I was starting to question myself here.
miles 12, 13, .2 - 8:08, 7:56, 7:52 - at this point I said... Just 2 miles, let's go. Mentally I often do this thing where I picture a favorite route near home that I have the 1/2 mile markers noted. I kind of lose thought of where I am and just go inside my head and run a half mile at a time. I'm in the middle of 2 cornfields, I'm crossing countyline road, I'm passing the church on the left, made it to the fire station, entering my neighborhood, approaching home, done!
Garmin/strava said 13.1 was finished in 1:42:43 and that I ran 13.2 miles total. Official time was 1:43:22. PR by 46 seconds.
In summary... I know I can do sub 1:40... Not now but eventually. I need to get out for some 15, 18, etc mile runs. Make 13 not seem so far or something like that. Also, even though I PR'd, I am a little disappointed. Mostly just because of the two instances of a lack of fortitude - a breakdown in my mental state.
It was quite the interesting race, and very fun to do. The number of total participants is insane! Not sure if I will do this one again or not. Being near the front makes it not too bad. The shear number of people to compare yourself against is fun. Speaking of which, according to the site here is my finish numbers:
Overall: 1290/19207
men: 1087/9100
AG: 102/929
The Iguana
Footballguy
A note on the weather... It pretty much sucked. Was perfect for about a mile, then it started this steady light rain that never stopped. Nothing too major but enough to be very annoying. One of these days I'm going to have to break the contacts back out. Instead my glasses were on top of my head most of the day and I ran blind. That's not a big deal in terms of affecting my run, just a pain.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Great race report. I'd say your mental fortitude was fantastic considering how long you kept it going when the struggles began. Fantastic.
As for the glasses, I started running with contacts whenever I wore my balaclava because my glasses would fog up. Same with rain. Makes a big difference.
JAA
Footballguy
ChiefD
Footballguy
On what you might consider a bad day, you PR’d by 46 seconds.
HUGE. HUGE. HUGE.
Not sure if you realize how good that is, but it really is amazing. And jeez dude, considering where you started 9 months ago, you are kicking some serious ###.
You have talent @The Iguana. I can only dream of how good you are and can be. Awesome work.
gianmarco
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Great race report! Congrats on the PR!
way to grind when the going got tough. Only recommendation is to limit the bob and weave at the beginning. You are using energy you’ll want later. Other than that, looks great and congratulations!
The Iguana
Footballguy
The Iguana
Footballguy
Thanks all for the kind words. That last note is very true. It's one of those things "I knew" and I was trying to make myself be patient, but couldn't quite do it. Before the race I told myself that I'd be happy if the first mile was done in about 7:50 - given the crowd and trying to find space, this would have been a great idea. I got started and let the adrenaline rule my brain for a bit. Definitley some wasted energy I would have liked to have back later.
With a little more time to dwell, I'm pretty happy today. I did not have much left in me after that. The last mile or so I kept trying to muster up a "kick" to the finish. I got my last mile or so pace back under 8, but I really couldn't find much more in me.
I'm at peace with it.
The Iguana
Footballguy
Now to start thinking about what's next! I get a day of rest today and plan to take it easy this week. Just get out and loosen up,the legs and such. My left hip and right heel both are a little angry this morning... This coming Saturday I am running a 5k at my kids' high school. Hoping I can do it in under 22:00, or at least see how close I can get.
After that I have nothing currently scheduled until the Monumental in November. I plan to start mixing in some crossfit stuff at work for some fun and more strength training than I have been doing. Also will get to just "have fun" running. Make sure I get the miles but get to just go out without thinking about a plan for the most part. Would like to do some more trail stuff but that takes planning to find them around here - technically I know where quite a few are, just more of a drive to get there. Probably will seek out a couple of shorter races over the summer just to have something to look forward to.
This really has been a fun, wild ride. Thanks for letting me crash the party in here. I highly appreciate the encouragement and fellowship of the group. It is very inspiring.
After that I have nothing currently scheduled until the Monumental in November. I plan to start mixing in some crossfit stuff at work for some fun and more strength training than I have been doing. Also will get to just "have fun" running. Make sure I get the miles but get to just go out without thinking about a plan for the most part. Would like to do some more trail stuff but that takes planning to find them around here - technically I know where quite a few are, just more of a drive to get there. Probably will seek out a couple of shorter races over the summer just to have something to look forward to.
This really has been a fun, wild ride. Thanks for letting me crash the party in here. I highly appreciate the encouragement and fellowship of the group. It is very inspiring.
