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Related, I know we're still 9 days out, but right now it's looking like we could have temps in the upper 20s or low 30s to start Monumental. For me, that's right on the cusp of being uncomfortable.

 
gruecd said:
Related, I know we're still 9 days out, but right now it's looking like we could have temps in the upper 20s or low 30s to start Monumental. For me, that's right on the cusp of being uncomfortable.
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Yeah, thanks a lot jerk!  Forecast now here in freaking Atlanta has Saturday morning low at 33.  Wth!

 
JShare87 said:
Really starting to believe it’s just not going to happen here this year. I look at the 15 day forecast 3 times a day, nothing. Still mid 70s as the low with 1 billion percent humidity. 
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I hear ya. Vegas weather was awesome and then I had to come back to Florida. Ugh.

 
gruecd said:
Related, I know we're still 9 days out, but right now it's looking like we could have temps in the upper 20s or low 30s to start Monumental. For me, that's right on the cusp of being uncomfortable.
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It's snowing here today... could be a little chilly on race day but hoping it's not too cold. 

 
gruecd said:
Related, I know we're still 9 days out, but right now it's looking like we could have temps in the upper 20s or low 30s to start Monumental. For me, that's right on the cusp of being uncomfortable.
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Just keep the precipitation out and it will be fine

 
-OZ- said:
Just keep the precipitation out and it will be fine
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:unsure:

Speaking of which, here are 10th place finishes in my AG in recent MCMs:

2015 - 3:39:49

2016 - 3:39:50

2017 - 3:51:26 (a hot, melt-down kind of day)

2018 - 3:37:28

2019 - 3:48:02

So it would appear the heavy rains had a noticeable effect, adding several minutes to race times.  @BassNBrew, your original prognostication was possibly quite accurate ...it just needed a bigger weather adjustment.

 
tri-man 47 said:
:unsure:

Speaking of which, here are 10th place finishes in my AG in recent MCMs:

2015 - 3:39:49

2016 - 3:39:50

2017 - 3:51:26 (a hot, melt-down kind of day)

2018 - 3:37:28

2019 - 3:48:02

So it would appear the heavy rains had a noticeable effect, adding several minutes to race times.  @BassNBrew, your original prognostication was possibly quite accurate ...it just needed a bigger weather adjustment.
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Yeah. I should have revised based on to downpour  I had you at 3:18 based on fitness with a 4 min weather adjustment. 

 
Had my last run before tomorrow morning last night.  I had taken a few days off after tweaking my knee - it was still bothering me but didn't fell any different than say 3 months ago.  But I was still a little worried.  Got home and dropped my son off for a Halloween party and then got out in the hellish weather (for me at least) - 44 and really windy with a little mist.  Good news is after a short warmup the knee felt ok and I pushed it a little to test the knee at my expected race pace.  Felt good and I'm at least confident on it now for tomorrow.  I just pray that with the cold tomorrow morning we don't get any wind.  I know we joke in here about the weather but I seriously would be miserable in 33 degrees with wind.  I need to HTFU and rf;dbap - that I know, but man, considering I haven't done any races in a while it would be nice to have something a little more moderate.  Having said that I'm really excited and anxious for tomorrow and want to #### some #### up as best I can.

 
AAABatteries said:
Had my last run before tomorrow morning last night.  I had taken a few days off after tweaking my knee - it was still bothering me but didn't fell any different than say 3 months ago.  But I was still a little worried.  Got home and dropped my son off for a Halloween party and then got out in the hellish weather (for me at least) - 44 and really windy with a little mist.  Good news is after a short warmup the knee felt ok and I pushed it a little to test the knee at my expected race pace.  Felt good and I'm at least confident on it now for tomorrow.  I just pray that with the cold tomorrow morning we don't get any wind.  I know we joke in here about the weather but I seriously would be miserable in 33 degrees with wind.  I need to HTFU and rf;dbap - that I know, but man, considering I haven't done any races in a while it would be nice to have something a little more moderate.  Having said that I'm really excited and anxious for tomorrow and want to #### some #### up as best I can.
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Get you some!  :headbang:

 
AAABatteries said:
Had my last run before tomorrow morning last night.  I had taken a few days off after tweaking my knee - it was still bothering me but didn't fell any different than say 3 months ago.  But I was still a little worried.  Got home and dropped my son off for a Halloween party and then got out in the hellish weather (for me at least) - 44 and really windy with a little mist.  Good news is after a short warmup the knee felt ok and I pushed it a little to test the knee at my expected race pace.  Felt good and I'm at least confident on it now for tomorrow.  I just pray that with the cold tomorrow morning we don't get any wind.  I know we joke in here about the weather but I seriously would be miserable in 33 degrees with wind.  I need to HTFU and rf;dbap - that I know, but man, considering I haven't done any races in a while it would be nice to have something a little more moderate.  Having said that I'm really excited and anxious for tomorrow and want to #### some #### up as best I can.
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What time is the race?

For the weather, I know it's been said and is tough to believe, but once you get going the weather really doesn't bother you. 

Get get 'em! 

 
AAABatteries said:
Had my last run before tomorrow morning last night.  I had taken a few days off after tweaking my knee - it was still bothering me but didn't fell any different than say 3 months ago.  But I was still a little worried.  Got home and dropped my son off for a Halloween party and then got out in the hellish weather (for me at least) - 44 and really windy with a little mist.  Good news is after a short warmup the knee felt ok and I pushed it a little to test the knee at my expected race pace.  Felt good and I'm at least confident on it now for tomorrow.  I just pray that with the cold tomorrow morning we don't get any wind.  I know we joke in here about the weather but I seriously would be miserable in 33 degrees with wind.  I need to HTFU and rf;dbap - that I know, but man, considering I haven't done any races in a while it would be nice to have something a little more moderate.  Having said that I'm really excited and anxious for tomorrow and want to #### some #### up as best I can.
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One more thing:

If it's going to be windy and chilly in the morning, take a nice sized garbage bag with you and cut a hole in the top for your head. Works as a great windbreaker and will keep you warm. You'll feel like a moron for a second until you look around and the rest of the unprepared southerners will be shivering from head to toe.

I like using a 3 mil contractor bag. Nice and thick. I store them by my shovels.

 
xulf said:
What time is the race?

For the weather, I know it's been said and is tough to believe, but once you get going the weather really doesn't bother you. 

Get get 'em! 
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Starts at 8:40 - forecast says 34-35 and sunny.  It won't be too bad and I'll plan on a good warmup.

 
The Iguana said:
Actually my plan is pretty simple - run with the 3:40 pacer for as long as I can do so comfortably. If at some point in the 20 to 25 mile range I still feel like I have a little more, maybe push ahead of the pace group a little. Ultimately, it may come down to just trying to hold on for dear life, IMO. 
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This has been on my mind.  I fear that it's the wrong mentality to take into your first marathon as it seems your "hold on" thoughts are too much of an afterthought.  I feel like your options are:

1) "run with the 3:40 pacer for as long as I can do so comfortably," but be prepared to "hold on for dear life," or

2) run with the 3:45 pace group and "if at some point in the 20 to 25 mile range I still feel like I have a little more, maybe push ahead of the pace group a little."

To take the more aggressive scenario (3:40 pace group) and hold thoughts of improving on that is very optimistic.  If that scenario doesn't develop, you'll have a difficult time readjusting on the fly.  I'd still recommend #2, but if you start with #1, be ready for the downside.  Maybe the upside happens, and that'd be awesome. But get your mind ready for the dark stuff.   I.e., expect the best; plan for the worst.  

 
tri-man 47 said:
This has been on my mind.  I fear that it's the wrong mentality to take into your first marathon as it seems your "hold on" thoughts are too much of an afterthought.  I feel like your options are:

1) "run with the 3:40 pacer for as long as I can do so comfortably," but be prepared to "hold on for dear life," or

2) run with the 3:45 pace group and "if at some point in the 20 to 25 mile range I still feel like I have a little more, maybe push ahead of the pace group a little."

To take the more aggressive scenario (3:40 pace group) and hold thoughts of improving on that is very optimistic.  If that scenario doesn't develop, you'll have a difficult time readjusting on the fly.  I'd still recommend #2, but if you start with #1, be ready for the downside.  Maybe the upside happens, and that'd be awesome. But get your mind ready for the dark stuff.   I.e., expect the best; plan for the worst.  
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Great post.

Agree 100%.  

 
tri-man 47 said:
This has been on my mind.  I fear that it's the wrong mentality to take into your first marathon as it seems your "hold on" thoughts are too much of an afterthought.  I feel like your options are:

1) "run with the 3:40 pacer for as long as I can do so comfortably," but be prepared to "hold on for dear life," or

2) run with the 3:45 pace group and "if at some point in the 20 to 25 mile range I still feel like I have a little more, maybe push ahead of the pace group a little."

To take the more aggressive scenario (3:40 pace group) and hold thoughts of improving on that is very optimistic.  If that scenario doesn't develop, you'll have a difficult time readjusting on the fly.  I'd still recommend #2, but if you start with #1, be ready for the downside.  Maybe the upside happens, and that'd be awesome. But get your mind ready for the dark stuff.   I.e., expect the best; plan for the worst.  
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Thanks, I appreciate it and do take it seriously. I actually feel very confident that I can run with the 3:40 group and finish strong. Whatever pace I go out at, I'm fully aware that "holding on for dear life" may become a reality. But, the way I felt on my 22 miler a few weeks ago gave me confidence that as long as all goes as I think it should, 3:40 is very doable. I really feel good about it at this time. 

 
Like, if I can't do the 3:40 pace the whole time, I will be somewhat disappointed. That said, the farthest I have gone is 22 miles. At the end of that, I felt "good" but it wasn't a "walk in the park" or anything. So, I am trying to not be "overly confident" or anything like that. I know that from 20 on is going to be both mentally and physically challenging. I know it's going to get ugly. But I think that happens if I go out with the 3:40 pacer or the 4:00 pacer. 

The "hold on for dear life" part is me basically trying to acknowledge the fact that this will not be easy. I hope that makes sense. It does in my head but things don't always make it out of my mouth (or in this case into my fingers) the same way they sound in my head.

 
tri-man 47 said:
This has been on my mind.  I fear that it's the wrong mentality to take into your first marathon as it seems your "hold on" thoughts are too much of an afterthought.  I feel like your options are:

1) "run with the 3:40 pacer for as long as I can do so comfortably," but be prepared to "hold on for dear life," or

2) run with the 3:45 pace group and "if at some point in the 20 to 25 mile range I still feel like I have a little more, maybe push ahead of the pace group a little."

To take the more aggressive scenario (3:40 pace group) and hold thoughts of improving on that is very optimistic.  If that scenario doesn't develop, you'll have a difficult time readjusting on the fly.  I'd still recommend #2, but if you start with #1, be ready for the downside.  Maybe the upside happens, and that'd be awesome. But get your mind ready for the dark stuff.   I.e., expect the best; plan for the worst.  
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3) Start that Power Gangsta Lean ® at the beginning and ride that baby for the next 26.2 miles

 
The Iguana said:
Thanks, I appreciate it and do take it seriously. I actually feel very confident that I can run with the 3:40 group and finish strong. Whatever pace I go out at, I'm fully aware that "holding on for dear life" may become a reality. But, the way I felt on my 22 miler a few weeks ago gave me confidence that as long as all goes as I think it should, 3:40 is very doable. I really feel good about it at this time. 
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Nobody is doubting your ability to run the entire 26.2 at 3:40. I think we are just trying to tell you the easier route to get to that 3:40 time. I know you feel like you may be leaving some time on the course if you go with the 3:45 group, but I do not think it’s possible to leave time out there in your first marathon. Just my thoughts on this. Before my first marathon, I heard the wisdom of this group but didn’t listen. I’m convinced a negative split is the only way to run a marathon. 

 
The Iguana said:
Like, if I can't do the 3:40 pace the whole time, I will be somewhat disappointed.
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That's the part that worries me. At no point during this cycle have you insinuated you'd be comfortable not hitting goal. The faster you start out the greater the risk. Like @tri-man 47 said, if you choose this route then mentally prepare for the worst. You have the ability to run (quite a bit!) under 3:40. You don't have the experience nor the volume though. If you're comfortable with failure then I won't discourage the more assertive approach, but I think that box needs checked.

The Iguana said:
I know that from 20 on is going to be both mentally and physically challenging. I know it's going to get ugly. But I think that happens if I go out with the 3:40 pacer or the 4:00 pacer. 
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It's difficult to describe until you've actually experienced it, but this probably is not the case. The first 2/3 give or take of the race should feel...easy. If it doesn't then you're working too hard too soon and The Creep is developing ammo and preparing itself to take you out when you least suspect it. If you start off at the appropriate pace then there simply isn't the ammo for The Creep to work with. The problem is with this being #1 you have no clue what the appropriate pace is, but the ole marathon rule still applies - you can always speed up, but if you start off too hot then try to back it off then it's already too late.

 
Thinking to order 25 silicone RF;DBAP wristbands. They’ll be red with white debossed letters.

Let me know who wants one. $5 each. I’ll mail them out as soon as I get them.

 
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Ok.. Change the subject for a minute... Kind of bummed about how chilly it likely will be. Kind of messes with my plan a bit, re: clothing. I have been totally planning to just go compression shorts, shorts, no sleeve shirt, possibly long sleeve shirt that would be fine leaving behind somewhere on the road. Barring a significant change in forecast in the next week, it's probably going to be about 25* +/- at the start and not much over 30 at the end. That says running tights to me but I haven't warn them in months. Will likely wear them tomorrow morning when I go out for my run. Not particularly excited to have to make that audible at this point but they are comfortable as can be so... 

 
The Iguana said:
Ok.. Change the subject for a minute... Kind of bummed about how chilly it likely will be. Kind of messes with my plan a bit, re: clothing. I have been totally planning to just go compression shorts, shorts, no sleeve shirt, possibly long sleeve shirt that would be fine leaving behind somewhere on the road. Barring a significant change in forecast in the next week, it's probably going to be about 25* +/- at the start and not much over 30 at the end. That says running tights to me but I haven't warn them in months. Will likely wear them tomorrow morning when I go out for my run. Not particularly excited to have to make that audible at this point but they are comfortable as can be so... 
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I think the assumption is stay warm pre race and run in gear as if it were 15-20 degrees warmer to account for the warming youll get running. 

 
The Iguana said:
Ok.. Change the subject for a minute... Kind of bummed about how chilly it likely will be. Kind of messes with my plan a bit, re: clothing. I have been totally planning to just go compression shorts, shorts, no sleeve shirt, possibly long sleeve shirt that would be fine leaving behind somewhere on the road. Barring a significant change in forecast in the next week, it's probably going to be about 25* +/- at the start and not much over 30 at the end. That says running tights to me but I haven't warn them in months. Will likely wear them tomorrow morning when I go out for my run. Not particularly excited to have to make that audible at this point but they are comfortable as can be so... 
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Personally, I'd add gloves (or more likely, gangsta cut-off gloves) and maybe an ear warmer before I'd worry about covering the actively-moving legs.  And if below freezing, I might layer a short-sleeve compressior shirt under a short or long-sleeve shirt.  But fully covering the legs on race day would be low on my priority list.

 
tri-man 47 said:
Personally, I'd add gloves (or more likely, gangsta cut-off gloves) and maybe an ear warmer before I'd worry about covering the actively-moving legs.  And if below freezing, I might layer a short-sleeve compressior shirt under a short or long-sleeve shirt.  But fully covering the legs on race day would be low on my priority list.
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@tri-man 47 is a smart man.
 

 I’ll likely be in shorts with 2 shirts.....one ready to toss when I’m warmed up a few miles in.
 

And definitely wearing gloves.  

 
gruecd said:
Thinking to order 25 silicone RF;DBAP wristbands. They’ll be red with white debossed letters.

Let me know who wants one. $5 each. I’ll mail them out as soon as I get them.
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Should it be the semi-colon or colon?

RF:DBAP

or

RF;DBAP

I’m thinking the colon. In honor of my bad colon. Thanks in advance.

 
The Iguana said:
Ok.. Change the subject for a minute... Kind of bummed about how chilly it likely will be. Kind of messes with my plan a bit, re: clothing. I have been totally planning to just go compression shorts, shorts, no sleeve shirt, possibly long sleeve shirt that would be fine leaving behind somewhere on the road. Barring a significant change in forecast in the next week, it's probably going to be about 25* +/- at the start and not much over 30 at the end. That says running tights to me but I haven't warn them in months. Will likely wear them tomorrow morning when I go out for my run. Not particularly excited to have to make that audible at this point but they are comfortable as can be so... 
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Depends on what you would normally do on a long run. For me, I know exactly what to wear on a day like that - mainly since I have run several half’s in those exact conditions.

1. Running pants - not tights. I have a lightweight pair of Adidas climacool pants. As a matter of fact, it’s gonna be 30 tomorrow morning on my run. I’ll be wearing those with running shorts underneath (extra dong protection)

2. Tight long sleeved base layer.

3. Short sleeved running shirt over that.

4. Those cheap knit gloves. I can throw them away if necessary.

5. Something to cover my ears. I’ve been using a buff lately that folds and works great. Leaves the head exposed to let heat escape and not too heavy. 

But, I run cold normally. Once I get chilled its hard for me to get out of it.

 
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gianmarco said:
@AAABatteries, CYD;RF;DBAP

Good luck tomorrow!!!
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xulf said:
Go after it today @AAABatteries!

This should be your mantra throughout the race https://media.giphy.com/media/P90JMawGJ7c1W/giphy.gif

Also, I can't stop watching this, so I'm going leave it here https://i2.wp.com/dosfamily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/running400.gif
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Thanks guys!  I will definitely CYD - 34 is current temp, supposed to drop a degree to 33 by race time.  Good news is, no wind at all so it won’t be bad.  I’m not going to do that eroticism run thingy - maybe next time.

 
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