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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (12 Viewers)
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The Iguana
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Like even just typing that post out has me ready to go #### some #### up on Saturday, and I'm not really a one to curse much.
gianmarco
Footballguy
FYI
My wife ended up getting a pair of the Nike Zoom Fly 3 shoes and wore them for the HM on Saturday. She loved the way they felt and thought they made a difference for her.
I started looking and Nike has a pair of these at about 50% off. The normal price for these is $160 and that's for most of the colors. The white version is on sale for $119.97 and then use code POWERUP to take another 30% off, taking this down to $84. That's not bad at all other than they are white shoes.
My wife ended up getting a pair of the Nike Zoom Fly 3 shoes and wore them for the HM on Saturday. She loved the way they felt and thought they made a difference for her.
I started looking and Nike has a pair of these at about 50% off. The normal price for these is $160 and that's for most of the colors. The white version is on sale for $119.97 and then use code POWERUP to take another 30% off, taking this down to $84. That's not bad at all other than they are white shoes.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Greetings running folk. After a looong time of lurking in this thread (I've followed it pretty closely since prior to gian joining in the fun), I decided to take the plunge and create a profile. I keep my internet footprint really low, but towards the end of the year I started to feel a bit guilty just taking all of the good information from the thread and not contributing anything. So, I'm officially taking the plunge. Without turning this into a wall of text, I'll just give a brief background :
I'm similar aged to a lot of guys here (bicentennial baby ftw). I've always enjoyed sports but don't have much natural athleticism. I tried cross country in high school but hated it and had issues with asthma as well. When I got into my mid-thirties and it became harder and harder to find e.g. pickup basketball games with friends as they got old and lazy, I started running to try to stay in shape. Like a lot of folks, I did things comically stupid to start, basically sprinting a mile around my neighborhood. I remember asking a friend from high school who was into running if it was normal for your lips to be numb after a run. I also ran a 5K with a training volume of 3 miles a week and at the time that seemed like a reasonable plan to me.
Eventually I got a little bit smarter and started to enjoy things more. The last 5 years or so I've been running 3 or 4 times a week year round (always outside, I'm in eastern pa so usually not an issue and I hate the treadmill with a passion). I never hit the mileage some of you animals put down, but I am extremely consistent, so I usually end up ~1k miles a year and that seems to work for me and keeps me from getting burnt out.
Happy DST - the best time of the year!
I'm similar aged to a lot of guys here (bicentennial baby ftw). I've always enjoyed sports but don't have much natural athleticism. I tried cross country in high school but hated it and had issues with asthma as well. When I got into my mid-thirties and it became harder and harder to find e.g. pickup basketball games with friends as they got old and lazy, I started running to try to stay in shape. Like a lot of folks, I did things comically stupid to start, basically sprinting a mile around my neighborhood. I remember asking a friend from high school who was into running if it was normal for your lips to be numb after a run. I also ran a 5K with a training volume of 3 miles a week and at the time that seemed like a reasonable plan to me.
Eventually I got a little bit smarter and started to enjoy things more. The last 5 years or so I've been running 3 or 4 times a week year round (always outside, I'm in eastern pa so usually not an issue and I hate the treadmill with a passion). I never hit the mileage some of you animals put down, but I am extremely consistent, so I usually end up ~1k miles a year and that seems to work for me and keeps me from getting burnt out.
Happy DST - the best time of the year!
bushdocda
Footballguy
Tempted, I like the white ok and great deal. More offset than I prefer is keeping me away.
xulf
Footballguy
Found your outfit on flash sale to go with it.
I actually like the whites. It looks like the reds are only $10 more for the pre-discount price.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I just signed up for Nike Plus (which was free anyway) and you get 30 days to try it out and run with it. I don't know if I'll like the offset either but I'm gonna give it a whirl.
I do wish this premium black version was on sale too as it's pretty slick, but the 30% off won't work on it :(
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Yeah, the NY reds were cool, then I found the blacks for same price (link above). Only the whites take the 30% off, though.
ChiefD
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
xulf
Footballguy
Gotcha - the 30% discount script didn't clear when I clicked on the reds. The extra off is definitely the way to go.
xulf
Footballguy
gianmarco
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ChiefD
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tri-man 47
Footballguy
Welcome, Dr.Z!
Gotta say, for all our banter about, um, other parts of the body getting numb during a run (due to frigid temps), we've not encountered numb lips! And "in" before @MAC_32 suggests the solution to the above is to actively suck a dum-dum during the run as a way to keep the lips active (which ...has merit, actually).
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Thanks! By the way, when I was in the process of mulling over posting in the thread a few weeks ago, I passed a broken snow shovel in the road on the way to work and I thought "that shovel may represent my broken relationship with the 10K crowd".Welcome aboard.
Dr_Zaius
Footballguy
Oh, the lips thing hasn't happened in a long time. It was definitely a function of going way anaerobic in the beginning. As far as other parts, underwear + shorts + pants has served me well for anything above 10F.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Ok, ok.... I'll go ahead and be the one.
Waiting for you to get on Strava
And welcome, it's so great when people join in on the fun here.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Took Summit out for a hike/run up Bald Hill this morning, same 1.5M, 900' hill I did 4 x repeats on a week ago. Well with the stupid time change we were up there a little earlier than normal, as far as the natural world is concerned. Summit was on a couple of scents like a hunting dog, at one point almost tunneling under a bush to try and smell something (there was a game trail on the other side of the bush). As we approached the last 1/4 mile or so of the climb there's an open area, and we simultaneously saw three coyotes up on the hill above us. One was rolling around on it's back, one was laying down (I think they were both pups), and the other was cruising through the open space looking for some rodent breakfast for her and her brood. Summit laid down and stared at them for a good 10 minutes, and then I decided I wasn't going to take him any further up the hill as even though he's about the same size as an adult coyote, I don't want him around any part of a mama protecting her littles.
Kind of hard to see as they were a few hundred yards away, but it was really cool to watch for a bit even if it did cost me about 200' of vert on Strava!
Kind of hard to see as they were a few hundred yards away, but it was really cool to watch for a bit even if it did cost me about 200' of vert on Strava!
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Juxtatarot
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tri-man 47
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Zasada
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SteelCurtain
Footballguy
LA marathon happened.
Waiting to see if NYC half goes on this weekend as Coronavirus cases have spiked dramatically here.
Big difference from a liability side is NYC half doesn’t provide any transportation. Boston does.
If Boston cancels, you can expect thousands of bandits out there on marathon Monday running the course which is a whole other safety issue. I have to admit, I might be one of the bandits. Why the heck not for the experience?
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fred_1_15301
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So I ran 5.5 miles yesterday and actually increased my speed to 11 Minute mile pace (though average HR was in the high 140s). At around the 4.5 mile marker I started feeling pain in my right knee. For the last mile I legged it out but was in a decent amount of pain. Then I decided to do a short 2.5 mile run today and averaged 10:15 minute pace (HR actually lower than Sunday). Again at around 1.75 miles I felt the same pain in my right knee. Should I slow it down again? I’m also thinking of just taking the next 2 days off to let the knee heal. Haven’t felt any pain in any previous runs.
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eaganwildcats
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Week three in the books - wife wanted to get in on the action so went out this afternoon. Contrary to my previous runs which had the HR nice and elevated did this one hovering around 150 (at like 12 min / mile - oof). From a cardiovascular standpoint definitely felt great and like I had much more in the tank at the end, but was starting to feel some of the impact on the lower extremities (feet, specifically). I have very high arches and since high school / college have had pretty bad pain in the ball of my foot - I think I have something like this: sesamoiditis. Have gotten custom orthotics in the past which have seemed to help (though generally I was using for basketball), might need to look in to getting back to the doc for a new pair if I want to keep this going.
All that being said - it was 75 and sunny so very little to actually complain about.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Go get it checked out, imo. Do you have a history of knee issues that would cause or give an indication about this flare up?
I ran through pain in the past and did myself damage...when I could/should have taken care of things at first signs. This time around for me, I hit up a PT and Ortho right away. Has saved me and put me on a healthier, safe course of training....even if the race will likely be cancelled
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I will get it checked out. No history of knee pain but I've also never run at this frequency and distance. I really don't want to cancel this race but also don't want to risk more serious damage. My plan is to take a few days off and give it another shot (maybe at a slower pace). If I'm still feeling pain, I'll see a doctor.
ETA - This is annoying because I feel like I've made great progress in 3 weeks and mentally very prepared for this.
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El Floppo
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I've only just checked back in lately...when is your race?
Take a day or two off and slow things back down, imo. Regardless- get it checked out...if you're an old fat ******* like me, your legs are angry at the new work, and likely need additional flexibility or strength work that a PT can help provide and/or point you in the right direction. it's probably just that and not something structural that an Ortho would need to fix.
ETA...and a good pt or Ortho will help you get to the race in as good condition as possible. Unless it's this weekend, in which case you're ####ed.
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fred_1_15301
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Race is May 3rd so I have some time to figure things out. I'm working from home tomorrow so I may just shoot some hoops to keep some sort of physical activity going. Thanks a lot for the tips.
El Floppo
Footballguy
gruecd
Footballguy
I’m not spending all that money for a glorified training run on a course that I’ve run several times before. Especially if I can get a credit for my plane ticket (have to check on that).
ChiefD
Footballguy
You may have a tight IT band. It runs from your hip down the outside of your leg to your shin. Knee pain is a symptom of this.
You may try a foam roller. You can youtube this and see what I am talking about.
Just an FYI - if you do this its gonna hurt like hell when you roll it out.
SteelCurtain
Footballguy
Easier for me. I can drive and stay at the in laws if I want or I can just make it a long day trip. (3 hours each way)
JShare87
Footballguy
@fred_1_15301 This. But do not foam roll. Focus on strengthening the glute medius and hips. I had the same issue a while back. Started doing the exercises in the video and it went away quickly. Good luck, hope you feel better.
https://youtu.be/1iODncOLJnk
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Juxtatarot
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bushdocda
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MAC_32
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MAC_32
Footballguy
An injury a couple-few weeks in is common. Too much, too fast, too soon. Get it right before getting going again. Then this time as you said - ramp up the miles at a slower pace, resisting the urge to increase the intensity towards the end of a run...even if your energy levels say you can.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’m just talking shooting a few hoops by myself at very low intensity. Not playing in a game
MAC_32
Footballguy
And if your knee is bothering you anything of that sort will only delay recovery. Gotta put your mind on the long game. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Take the long view ...focus on being in great shape and race ready for fall; don't worry too much about your conditioning for early May. It can really take a year or two through the cycles to get a good feel of what works for you and what you can handle with training, so don't get too worried or anxious about this set-back! If this early pain teaches you that you need to do more stretching or strength work, then learn from it. We've all learned lessons the hard way.
The Iguana
Footballguy
I'm an old fart that was way out of shape when I restarted this journey. The big thing is being able to know the difference between "hurting" and "being injured". I had several things that "hurt" that I thought might be injuries that ended up being able to be addressed by better habits - namely better stretching and various exercises to address the problem areas. If you aren't sure, getting it checked out is definitely the way to go. And my recent experience with the PT here at work showed me that they can work some pretty funky voodoo to help you with both injury and pain in general - that includes giving me some stretches and other stuff to address problem areas that were more "hurt" than "injured".
The Iguana
Footballguy
I should have just read more before commenting - this x1000, IMO! Great advice right here.
Zasada
Footballguy
In 2012ish I tried running for the first time, and after about 2-3 weeks I got bursitis in my knee. Didn't know what it was when it happened, but it came about almost exactly the same way you described. Felt it near the end of a run, went out again anyway the next day, and ran through the pain. Then I was visibly limping for a week, even when walking.
Took a whole weekend in bed to try to get it to recover, and it didn't. Finally went to the doctor, and he diagnosed bursitis and prescribed a mega dose of Naproxen.
One pill and a sleep later, and it was fixed. Sure, I filled the toilet with blood the next morning as well (my gut doesn't like high-dose NSAIDs) but at least my knee was good.
No idea if your issue is the same, but just in case it is, I thought I would share. It would be four more years before I would even try running again.
