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Not a doctor, but I would think getting out of the house and getting some exercise is a necessary boost to the immune system and overall mental state.  I'm aware that this is a more potent virus and not the common cold, but my money is on getting some exercise does more good than harm for this quarantine period (so long as you aren't high fiving everybody or in Grue's sweat backwash) 
I intend to get in tremendous shape over the next few weeks then celebrate by not running in any races.

 
I intend to get in tremendous shape over the next few weeks then celebrate by not running in any races.
There's a lot of things that are disappointing to see get canceled (spring break, birthday parties, graduation, etc).  I genuinely would probably be most aggravated by no races in April and May.  

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
Yup, I've read those reports about "permanent lung damage" as well and it is scary.  No clue how common it is in younger, healthy people, or if we even have enough data yet to even make a guess.  

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
Yup. 

We all seem so caught up in not spreading it that we almost overlook the more basic concern of not getting it ourselves.

 
Maybe I should be more concerned but I'm not particularly worried about getting it,  especially in terms of long term effects. Definitely worried about effect in the high risk populations and the supply chain ramifications but not so much about personal health. 

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
I have no doubt that I'm going to get this at some point. Pretty inevitable. 

But I'm still more worried about the overall impact than the likelihood it significantly causes me harm.

 
I am taking this very seriously with both family, work (senior housing industry) and me and economy.  I have short, annoying spring allergies that have got to be on me earlier than normal based on the mild winter. I think that’s a big piece of how I’m feeling as each of the dozen times I’ve taken my temp it’s been normal.  Rested yesterday intentionally as I’d gone 3 days in a row for first time since calf knot experience. Today was first day I can remember where I had a chance to run on a sunny day and I opted not to.  Run on Sunday actually felt decent so I think tomorrow will be a better day. 
Going to try to forget about the lung damage parts above. 

 
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Away from virus news....

Took 3 days off and figured that would nip this thing in my knee in the bud. After a mile today, I could feel it starting to get aggravated again. Turned around and went home. Tried another run with my son and once again started feeling it after about a mile. Frustrating. It's not really that painful (2/10), feels completely fine now, but I need to be smart heading into my plan soon. So I'm probably taking a week off. Nice timing :( I just hope I don't lose too much fitness in that time but it is what it is.

I did try the new Nike Zoom Fly 3 shoes. I have to admit they are pretty awesome and very different from anything I've run in. I can definitely see them helping come race day. I would suggest giving them a try to anyone on the fence. Almost like running on a trampoline....

Stay safe out there, GBs.

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
Definitely. 

I was practically willing to get the damn virus now to get it over with, but once I heard about the potential long term damage to your lungs. That's scary. 

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
I’m not only because I’m like 60% positive I’ve already had it. Looking forward to the antibody test in a couple months. 

 
Just realized tonight our relay is likely not happening.

And while I will still train, I'm thinking my marathon debut may also have to wait as well :(
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this particular event happening. Get that knee right, my man.

 
Just realized tonight our relay is likely not happening.

And while I will still train, I'm thinking my marathon debut may also have to wait as well :(
May 29...I think/hope we’ll be ok.
 

And call me an optimist, but I’m really not worried at all about your marathon. :shrug:

 
Not trying to add to the paranoia around here, but is anyone else scared to death of getting this and it damaging your lungs permanently? I’ve read some articles of young people getting this and it causing irreversible damage to their lungs. To the point where walking would tire them out. Granted, I don’t have children or close older relatives to worry about but this seems to be my main concern. I realize we’re all pretty healthy in this thread, just curious to know if this is on anyone’s mind. 
Definitely a bit worried. I do wonder if it's inevitable at some point just based on how big the world is and all it takes is one person that still has it to spread it. I think a good barometer will be to see how the NBA players and other athletes recover. I don't think we're all quite as fit as a pro-level athlete but just exercising gives us a step up from most and will be quite interesting to see if there is any difference for them.

 
Looking forward to 2021!!!  I figured Boston would announce before the weekend, given that a lot of folks would be targeting a long run.  Mid-Sept makes sense in terms of their registration for 2021.
Maybe they'll push registration back to end-Oct due to cancelled races and then I could give 2021 a legit shot with Paris moved to October.... one can hope

 
First decent run tonight since last week when the #### really started hitting the fan with the market. Maybe my body is finally getting used to all the stress.

Anyway, did 10 miles at 7:39 average pace with AHR only 131. Hopefully a sign of things to come...
Damn this is where I strive to be someday.... "easy" runs that are still kicking ###

 
Caught up from a few days off and trying to get used to working from home but back and reporting live from quarantine! We're on to day 2 of 15, where the real challenge begins. Mandatory lockdown began yesterday at noon here in France and I was able to sneak a 40km cycle in before work. I was still on the bike around 9am when shops were opening and it was quite eerie to have almost no cars on the road on a weekday morning and lines out the door for every grocery and boulangerie (and the bakery lines were much longer than the grocery lines!  :lmao:  )

We're allowed to go outside for five reasons only (and must be alone with a signed attestation of where you are going): 1) to work, if your work is still open, 2) grocery shopping, 3) doctor, 4) compelling family reasons and 5) walking the dog and/or solo exercise "à proximité du domicile".  Now I'm not sure what in proximity of my home actually means in terms of distance but we'll see how this goes. Will take comfort in the fact that it's going to be 65 degrees today and we loaded up on beer and wine to be able to pretend like we're drinking outside.

I mapped out a 3km loop around our neighborhood here and will try it out at lunch. Godspeed to you all!

 
Definitely a bit worried. I do wonder if it's inevitable at some point just based on how big the world is and all it takes is one person that still has it to spread it. I think a good barometer will be to see how the NBA players and other athletes recover. I don't think we're all quite as fit as a pro-level athlete but just exercising gives us a step up from most and will be quite interesting to see if there is any difference for them.
You ran a 3:09 marathon. As far as your respiratory system goes, I’d say you’re far more fit than most pro athletes. But I understand what you’re saying. So far it seems that the athletes have no symptoms. 

 
Dear Miwok Runners -

We had hoped to wait until April 2, but after discussions with our permitting agencies, and with the shelter-in-place announcement yesterday for all residents in six Northern California counties – including Marin, where the Miwok 100K takes place - it has become unavoidably clear that we cannot in good conscience put on an event that brings people from many different counties, states, and countries into Marin during this pandemic.

Our runners could unknowingly bring COVID-19 into the area, infecting residents and other runners, or could return home to their own communities with it, and infect their families, friends, or essential service providers. Due to the above, as well as the potential risk to the volunteers, staff, and other participants, the 2020 Miwok 100K is now cancelled. 

Like you, I am dismayed that we will not be able to gather together for the 25th annual trail celebration that is the Miwok 100K. I will miss greeting each of you at the finish line and hanging that hard-earned medal around your neck. We will all miss hearing about your journey, cheering you on, listening to our volunteers share their stories. And you bet I will miss Devon Crosby-Helms’ café’s best-in-the-universe mac & cheese… But we will put on the race in 2021, and you will be there.

Some people are worried about qualifiers. I hear you. Races that require qualifiers are aware of the problem and are doing their own calculus in that regard. (Go for a good run today and let some of that worry go.)

We will be finding out over the next month what race expenses are recoverable, and what are sunk costs, and let you know by April 17 what sort of refund is possible. Like many ultras, we are not run by a deep-pockets corporation. We’ll also be sharing with you a few ideas on a virtual Miwok, and ways to get some running in despite curfews and quarantines. And don’t forget, you’ve got a lottery bypass for the May 1, 2021 Miwok 100K.

We are ultrarunners. We will weather this and come back even stronger. As a community working together, and as individuals.

Enjoy the trails,

Tia

Tia Bodington, Race Director

Miwok 100K Trail Race


Disappointed, but not surprised, and totally understand.

Already waitlisted for a September 100K WSU qualifier in Alberta.  Will probably run a 50K in late June as well (same one I ran last year).  Might take some time and see if there are any late Spring 100Ks I should consider.

Was looking forward to meeting @SFBayDuck, but now he's just going to have to come up to Alberta when all this virus business clears.

 
You ran a 3:09 marathon. As far as your respiratory system goes, I’d say you’re far more fit than most pro athletes. But I understand what you’re saying. So far it seems that the athletes have no symptoms. 
:lol:   The movies (Contagion, Daybreakers) have conditioned me well to not mess around with bat viruses 🦇

 
Away from virus news....

Took 3 days off and figured that would nip this thing in my knee in the bud. After a mile today, I could feel it starting to get aggravated again. Turned around and went home. Tried another run with my son and once again started feeling it after about a mile. Frustrating. It's not really that painful (2/10), feels completely fine now, but I need to be smart heading into my plan soon. So I'm probably taking a week off. Nice timing :( I just hope I don't lose too much fitness in that time but it is what it is.

I did try the new Nike Zoom Fly 3 shoes. I have to admit they are pretty awesome and very different from anything I've run in. I can definitely see them helping come race day. I would suggest giving them a try to anyone on the fence. Almost like running on a trampoline....

Stay safe out there, GBs.
I haven't had a lot of luck with resting injuries but I think the reason for that is I simultaneously get very lazy with stretching/rolling/strengthening exercises.  Just a warning for you not to make the same mistake.

 
Just realized tonight our relay is likely not happening.

And while I will still train, I'm thinking my marathon debut may also have to wait as well :(


Prepare for the worst and hope for the best, but I'm cautiously optimistic about this particular event happening. Get that knee right, my man.
Hate to be the pessimist, but I’m not very hopeful for you guys with what we know today.   :(
 

I’m giving Western States (June 27th) less than a 10% chance of happening.  Hundreds of runners and thousands of volunteers, crew, and spectators gathering throughout 24-72 hours of happenings?  Runners sweating, coughing, spitting, breathing heavily, and grabbing stuff at aid stations? :X   Just think about how many a single infected runner or volunteer would pass this virus along to. Would likely be 10s.  And how many those 10s pass it along to?   
 

I think small local races may decide to be back in play by summertime, but races with thousands potentially gathering and people traveling from other states and other countries?  Just doesn’t seem realistic with what we know today.  My .02 at least.

 
But western states is a smaller race. I'd expect the finish to be more restricted than usual though. I don't know what participation levels are like at J&J, but since they're high for Cleveland and it's in May I am preparing for the inevitable. 

 
But western states is a smaller race. I'd expect the finish to be more restricted than usual though. I don't know what participation levels are like at J&J, but since they're high for Cleveland and it's in May I am preparing for the inevitable. 
So you’re saying you think Western States, because smaller, is more likely to proceed as planned?  Or something else?
 

If so I’d concur that Western States is a small race in terms of runners (~370), but one with entrants from a vast majority of US states and likely 30+ other countries.  And one with thousands of others involved.  I can’t fathom them proceeding. Again, that is unless the trajectory of this thing changes significantly by end of April as I think that’s roughly when the WSER Board will have to make this call.

 
Hmmm.

The Calgary Marathon is at the end of May.  Might not happen, but I did the math, and last year when I ran Houston my time was 2.21x my prior HM time (in Vegas).  If I take that 2.21x and apply to my most recent Vegas HM (1:41:59), I get a 3:44:55 full marathon time.

Maybe I'll give that a shot.

 
Hmmm.

The Calgary Marathon is at the end of May.  Might not happen, but I did the math, and last year when I ran Houston my time was 2.21x my prior HM time (in Vegas).  If I take that 2.21x and apply to my most recent Vegas HM (1:41:59), I get a 3:44:55 full marathon time.

Maybe I'll give that a shot.
That's our marathon goal.  You certainly have that and more in you. 

 
That's our marathon goal.  You certainly have that and more in you. 
Aaaaaand I just realized that our relay is the same weekend.  If the relay doesn't get canceled, that's still the priority!  So will have to consider a different street marathon if I'm still keen to punish myself with another long road race...

 
Aaaaaand I just realized that our relay is the same weekend.  If the relay doesn't get canceled, that's still the priority!  So will have to consider a different street marathon if I'm still keen to punish myself with another long road race...
There's a downhill marathon in Washington in late July, perhaps....... :oldunsure:

 
There's a downhill marathon in Washington in late July, perhaps....... :oldunsure:
Yup, the thought did cross my mind.  Downsides are that, A) It's July (heat, sweat, ugh); and B) I'm keen to get an apples-to-apples PR and the downhill might make it apples-to-oranges...

But it would be fun to run with you guys (hopefully *again*, after we run together in STL) so that's a definite draw.  And it's close to my (northern) home.

 
Yup, the thought did cross my mind.  Downsides are that, A) It's July (heat, sweat, ugh); and B) I'm keen to get an apples-to-apples PR and the downhill might make it apples-to-oranges...

But it would be fun to run with you guys (hopefully *again*, after we run together in STL) so that's a definite draw.  And it's close to my (northern) home.
The temps are moderate because it's the PNW.  Average temps are high 50's, low 60's. 

Forget apples to fruit.

And it's outdoors through the mountains with beautiful scenery.  I would think it would be a HUGE draw for you.

 
So you’re saying you think Western States, because smaller, is more likely to proceed as planned?  Or something else?
 

If so I’d concur that Western States is a small race in terms of runners (~370), but one with entrants from a vast majority of US states and likely 30+ other countries.  And one with thousands of others involved.  I can’t fathom them proceeding. Again, that is unless the trajectory of this thing changes significantly by end of April as I think that’s roughly when the WSER Board will have to make this call.
I think there are a lot of variables that need to be considered but, yes, since there are a smaller number of participants and given the environment in which this race is ran I think it is more likely yo proceed as planned than other large events this summer.

 
Just took a gander.  Looks gorgeous.  Does it sell out, or can I hold out on registration?


I was considering inquiring about your itineraries for this in the near future, so since the topic came up do you mind sharing?
We are running on Saturday.  There's marathons on both Saturday and Sunday.  The last time I looked there were about 200 spots left on Saturday and still like 500+ on Sunday.

We are flying in on Thursday afternoon, will get our packet and settle in on Friday, run Saturday, rest Sunday, fly back home on Monday. 

Entry can be deferred to the next year or transferred to another person for a really small fee (I think it was $20 that I saw when I registered).

 
We are running on Saturday.  There's marathons on both Saturday and Sunday.  The last time I looked there were about 200 spots left on Saturday and still like 500+ on Sunday.

We are flying in on Thursday afternoon, will get our packet and settle in on Friday, run Saturday, rest Sunday, fly back home on Monday. 

Entry can be deferred to the next year or transferred to another person for a really small fee (I think it was $20 that I saw when I registered).
Only 144 left now.  So I'm just going to sign up and if it's $100$150 throw-away, so be it.  What shuttle are you on?

 
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We are running on Saturday.  There's marathons on both Saturday and Sunday.  The last time I looked there were about 200 spots left on Saturday and still like 500+ on Sunday.

We are flying in on Thursday afternoon, will get our packet and settle in on Friday, run Saturday, rest Sunday, fly back home on Monday. 

Entry can be deferred to the next year or transferred to another person for a really small fee (I think it was $20 that I saw when I registered).
Any idea what lodging's like? I just know it's out in the middle of nowhere. I am up to speed on the race day logistics (shuttles) and am monitoring flights.

 
Any idea what lodging's like? I just know it's out in the middle of nowhere. I am up to speed on the race day logistics (shuttles) and am monitoring flights.
We are staying here. With Marriott perks and with its location (close enough to race start and in between Seattle and race area) as well as relatively inexpensive compared to other spots, it made sense for us.

Not sure if there's still availability.  There's a list of hotels on that race site IIRC.  I had already found that one (closest Marriott property) and it happened to be on the suggested list as well.

 
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Just realized tonight our relay is likely not happening.

And while I will still train, I'm thinking my marathon debut may also have to wait as well :(
I keep holding on to hope that the relay will happen. I'm not banking on it or anything but I haven't given up hope yet.

 
I keep holding on to hope that the relay will happen. I'm not banking on it or anything but I haven't given up hope yet.
It's outside of the current ranges stated by the CDC. The problem is I expect those ranges to expand in the coming days/week. We'll see where the data trends go between now and whenever that is. Until those changes are made I'm continuing to train for the race that is one week outside of the range. I'm mentally preparing backup plans, but I'm not executing any of them. If I miss windows on them then c'est la'vie.

 
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It's outside of the current ranges stated by the CDC. The problem is I expect those ranges to expand in the coming days/week. We'll see where the data trends go between now and whenever that is. Until those changes are made I'm continuing to train for the race that is one week outside of the range. I'm mentally preparing backup plans, but I'm not executing any of them. If I miss windows on them then c'est la'vie.
I'm just being hopeful at this point. To write it off might just be a little too depressing, IMO. Haven't heard anything yet, but I'm sure my HM at the beginning of May will get cancelled and that's enough of a hit for now.

 
I'm just being hopeful at this point. To write it off might just be a little too depressing, IMO. Haven't heard anything yet, but I'm sure my HM at the beginning of May will get cancelled and that's enough of a hit for now.
How each person should approach this is variable. As @ChiefD correctly eluded to about me a long time ago - I like involving myself in the process. No matter what is actually happening I am going to be doing some form of training. Sure, some sort of short term objective to work towards is necessary, but I am always going to be doing something. Whenever my mid-May race gets cancelled I'll use the information available to me at that time to make the best possible decision then audible my plan with that target in mind. I know new information later may change that plan too - but I'm gonna keep going anyway and adjusting as change occurs.

That isn't the case with others though. Without that carrot dangling out in front others are more likely to skip a workout, then two, then the domino effect. I can't wrap my head around that sorta mindset - I've tried, but I can't. I just know that it exists. I think those that are susceptible to that must self assess now and game plan accordingly. I don't know what that game plan is, but I am confident ignoring it will have negative consequences later.

 
That isn't the case with others though. Without that carrot dangling out in front others are more likely to skip a workout, then two, then the domino effect. I can't wrap my head around that sorta mindset - I've tried, but I can't. I just know that it exists. I think those that are susceptible to that must self assess now and game plan accordingly. I don't know what that game plan is, but I am confident ignoring it will have negative consequences later.
Oh, the working out part - that is a problem for me - without a race to prep for it is easier for me to make excuses. I'm doing this really for the life change I've experienced as the true, long range goal. But without a short term goal, it becomes easier to lose focus on the big picture, IMO. Right now, I'm trying to keep the mindset that the races I have on the schedule will happen and, if/when they don't, I'll just have to go out and simulate them or something. Right not holding onto the relay race is more a "sanity thing" - holding on to that carrot is more about not getting too distressed over this whole mess or something.

That said, the last few days have just been walks with the dog as I let my ankle heal - there's still some swelling and tightness from the weekend. It's not terrible and I'll get out for an easy run, probably tomorrow. 

 

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