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Looks like we have a few new names.

Who are:

RJ?

JW?

JB?

BS?

CM?

I'm assuming CL is our new guy that just posted a few posts up.

 
Local Patapsco park trail series trying to tempt me with a jacket. I do dumb stuff for jackets. 

****Trail runners! Check out The Slam! You get 1 month to do all 4 virtual distances (6k, 11k, 1/2 marathon & marathon) to get all 4 medals PLUS a Patagonia Houdini Air Jacket (retail $170)****

 
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bushdocda said:
Local Patapsco park trail series trying to tempt me with a jacket. I do dumb stuff for jackets. 

****Trail runners! Check out The Slam! You get 1 month to do all 4 virtual distances (6k, 11k, 1/2 marathon & marathon) to get all 4 medals PLUS a Patagonia Houdini Air Jacket (retail $170)****
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6K and 11K???? What a bunch of jerks adding an additional kilometer  :unsure:

I feel you on the jackets --- those and hoodies are worth doing stupid things for  :thumbup:

 
gianmarco said:
I don't have the svelte physique that many of you Adonises have. 

But in all honesty, it's dumb, but just not something I ever do.  Especially when running around a bunch of people, which the lake/park we've been running around lately has.  I've done it a couple times recently at the end of a run when it's just ridiculous, but it really doesn't feel THAT much better. 

And, when I'm running with a pack lately, it's far more comfortable with a shirt than without. 
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I understand the self conscious part of it.

I never go shirtless around work because other employees could see me and that's just weird.  I have a pretty visible role and my work reputation is critical for my success (hence why I'm "Blind Ref" on strava.  Don't need the real world to find me unless I want them to.)

I run at home, its pretty rural and its usually early morning so I'm happy to run shirtless.

Interestingly, if I run in Central Park in NYC where I likely don't know anyone but there are others there, I always wear a shirt out of respect of others as I'm guessing most don't want see me half naked.

 
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gianmarco said:
Looks like we have a few new names.

Who are:

RJ?

JW?

JB?

BS?

CM?

I'm assuming CL is our new guy that just posted a few posts up.
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JW is likely me. Thanks for the Add :thumbup:  I am working my way up to an ironman by the time I'm 60 in 3 years. Covid has gotten me off my #### and motivated to live a healthier, more active lifestyle. This thread is a great resource for training & motivation so TIA!

 
gianmarco said:
I don't have the svelte physique that many of you Adonises have. 

But in all honesty, it's dumb, but just not something I ever do.  Especially when running around a bunch of people, which the lake/park we've been running around lately has.  I've done it a couple times recently at the end of a run when it's just ridiculous, but it really doesn't feel THAT much better. 

And, when I'm running with a pack lately, it's far more comfortable with a shirt than without. 
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Ive done it once only because it was so damn hot outside.  Def wasnt planned as I still had my HR strap on 🧰

 
Dark Matter said:
JW is likely me. Thanks for the Add :thumbup:  I am working my way up to an ironman by the time I'm 60 in 3 years. Covid has gotten me off my #### and motivated to live a healthier, more active lifestyle. This thread is a great resource for training & motivation so TIA!
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Likely you? Still haven't learned your name yet? ;)

Welcome!

 
Dark Matter said:
JW is likely me. Thanks for the Add :thumbup:  I am working my way up to an ironman by the time I'm 60 in 3 years. Covid has gotten me off my #### and motivated to live a healthier, more active lifestyle. This thread is a great resource for training & motivation so TIA!
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Need more multi-sporters in here to drown out the runner-only's

 
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JAA said:
Need more multi-sporters in here to drown out the runner-only's
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My wife was on the ironman website this past Saturday and noticed Ironman VR had an "olympic" Tri with 3k run subbed for the swim. On a whim, she signed us up not realizing the deadline to complete was Sunday afternoon. Well, I guess we know what we're doing tomorrow :lol: We  kept it slow and steady for the most part, pushed it a bit on the bike towards the end because we both felt pretty good and finished up with about as slow a 10K possible. That was really my first go at a Tri and it was a blast except for misplacing all my gear in transition. :confused: Gotta work on that! I'm reading "Going Long" right now and it is excellent although I'm sure there is more up to date training and nutrition information out there. Appreciate any links or books you can point me to. Thank again.

 
Dark Matter said:
My wife was on the ironman website this past Saturday and noticed Ironman VR had an "olympic" Tri with 3k run subbed for the swim. On a whim, she signed us up not realizing the deadline to complete was Sunday afternoon. Well, I guess we know what we're doing tomorrow :lol: We  kept it slow and steady for the most part, pushed it a bit on the bike towards the end because we both felt pretty good and finished up with about as slow a 10K possible. That was really my first go at a Tri and it was a blast except for misplacing all my gear in transition. :confused: Gotta work on that! I'm reading "Going Long" right now and it is excellent although I'm sure there is more up to date training and nutrition information out there. Appreciate any links or books you can point me to. Thank again.
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Lets start with your goals.  Full IM in 3 years?

 
JAA said:
Lets start with your goals.  Full IM in 3 years?
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Yes, I think that is a realistic goal for me. I'm going to take this slow and build up my base and work on technique.  Swimming will be my achilles but I have a good coach lined up and have confidence that I can become decent enough not to drown, which is all I hope for at the moment. 

 
Dark Matter said:
Yes, I think that is a realistic goal for me. I'm going to take this slow and build up my base and work on technique.  Swimming will be my achilles but I have a good coach lined up and have confidence that I can become decent enough not to drown, which is all I hope for at the moment. 
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Yeah, you don't win it on the swim, but you can 'lose' it if not adequately prepared.  For my first (of three) half-IM, I had all sorts of plans for the day ...but the swim, as I like to say, sucked the brave right out of me.  

Welcome to the thread and to Strava!

 
gruecd said:
Yeah, wearing a pack without a shirt is like buying a one-way ticket to chafe city.
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And: This.  It's why I bought a Nathan hand-held bottle recently.  Need a shirt for my fuel belt, but it's too hot this summer.  Of course, the trouble with going shirtless is that all that sweat drains down to the shorts and on to the socks and shoes. The feet can be rather squishy by the end of a longer run.

 
Dark Matter said:
Yes, I think that is a realistic goal for me. I'm going to take this slow and build up my base and work on technique.  Swimming will be my achilles but I have a good coach lined up and have confidence that I can become decent enough not to drown, which is all I hope for at the moment. 
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Is your Strava aligned with your current fitness level?  Or have you been kicking ### for years and just joined Strava?

Foe example, it looks like you have swam a total of 800 yards in your life.  How accurate is that?  Best mile is like 9:30, you've run 53 miles in your life?

How much time per week are you planning to commit to training?  Like 5, 10, 15?

 
JAA said:
Is your Strava aligned with your current fitness level?  Or have you been kicking ### for years and just joined Strava?

Foe example, it looks like you have swam a total of 800 yards in your life.  How accurate is that?  Best mile is like 9:30, you've run 53 miles in your life?

How much time per week are you planning to commit to training?  Like 5, 10, 15?
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I joined Strava a few years ago but went dark on training so really just became active recently. Pretty sure you aren't looking at my Strava. Tri-Man just started following me and my last activity was a Zwift Fondo Taper. (Doing a Swift VR into Champs Elysees today...how cool its that?!)

I plan to commit 10-15 hours/week to train. 1-2 hrs swimming, 6-10 bike, 3 running. I'll do as much of my strength training when the weather cools off.  The best info that I've taken from "Going Long" so far is the life balance that is required of endurance athletes. This is the start of a life long commitment for me. My wife knows what it takes to do what I want to do,  she supports me 100% and we will train together as this has lit her fire to do another IM. 

 
Not gonna lie.  There are at least 20 guys in the Strava group that I have absolutely no idea who they are.  :shrug:

@Ned - Get to work on updating that list, would ya?

 
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Dark Matter said:
I joined Strava a few years ago but went dark on training so really just became active recently. Pretty sure you aren't looking at my Strava. Tri-Man just started following me and my last activity was a Zwift Fondo Taper. (Doing a Swift VR into Champs Elysees today...how cool its that?!)

I plan to commit 10-15 hours/week to train. 1-2 hrs swimming, 6-10 bike, 3 running. I'll do as much of my strength training when the weather cools off.  The best info that I've taken from "Going Long" so far is the life balance that is required of endurance athletes. This is the start of a life long commitment for me. My wife knows what it takes to do what I want to do,  she supports me 100% and we will train together as this has lit her fire to do another IM. 
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Disclosure:  I've done 1 full IM, but I train a lot and have a great coach

Id say 10-15 hours sounds good.  I would advise to plan 2 years of training.  I did 1 year of training after finishing my first HIM.  I wish I would have done 2 years.  The issue IMHO is acclimating the body to that workload.  I'm 44 and staying injury free have been problematic.  Id say like 2 annoying muscular injuries per year.  Quite frustrating.  So, just getting to 10 hours per week needs to happen over months.  FWIW i'm trying to get to 15 hours per week and am got like 5 weeks of 14.5 hours, so not quite there and not consistently.

Please do get a coach.  Use the TrainingPeaks tool.  All of this will help you measure your output for the purpose to ensure not over-training.

Finally, if you aren't a strong swimmer I would add more swimming into the mix, like 30-45 minutes 4 times a week.  While it doesn't translate to your race pace, it translates to comfort level.  I spend a lot of time swimming and love it.  Its so low impact and cardio-centric that the benefit to your overall fitness is very measurable.  In addition, it impacts your core strength to ensure proper posture when your muscles are getting fatigued.

If you are looking for a coach recommendation, Im happy to pass along.

:banned:

 
SteelCurtain said:
Interestingly, if I run in Central Park in NYC where I likely don't know anyone but there are others there, I always wear a shirt out of respect of others as I'm guessing most don't want see me half naked.
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I sorta understand the work thing, but the above makes no sense to me.  I'd obviously wear a shirt on the subway or on my run to the park, but once I got there, I'd just take it off and tuck it in my shorts.  People are there to exercise.  They don't give a flying you-know-what if you're wearing a shirt or not.  Do what makes you comfortable.

 
gianmarco said:
I don't have the svelte physique that many of you Adonises have. 

But in all honesty, it's dumb, but just not something I ever do.  Especially when running around a bunch of people, which the lake/park we've been running around lately has.  I've done it a couple times recently at the end of a run when it's just ridiculous, but it really doesn't feel THAT much better. 

And, when I'm running with a pack lately, it's far more comfortable with a shirt than without. 
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Good God man, don't be a pansy.

I have the worst physique here and I run shirtless all the time. I don't give a shovels handle what people here think of me. I'm out there for me in all my glory. And I am flaunting this body like Patrick Mahomes flaunting that Super Bowl trophy.

Maybe you won't sweat 42 pounds every run once you take that shirt off. Jeez man - it's summer out there!!

 
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ChiefD said:
Good God man, don't be a pansy.

I have the worst physique here and I run shirtless all the time. I don't give a shovels handle what people here think of me. I'm out there for me in all my glory. And I am flaunting this body like Patrick Mahomes flaunting that Super Bowl trophy.

Maybe you won't sweat 42 pounds every run once you take that shirt off. Jeez man - it's summer out there!!
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Speaking of Mahomes, do you follow his GF on Insta? :wub:

 
JAA said:
Disclosure:  I've done 1 full IM, but I train a lot and have a great coach

Id say 10-15 hours sounds good.  I would advise to plan 2 years of training.  I did 1 year of training after finishing my first HIM.  I wish I would have done 2 years.  The issue IMHO is acclimating the body to that workload.  I'm 44 and staying injury free have been problematic.  Id say like 2 annoying muscular injuries per year.  Quite frustrating.  So, just getting to 10 hours per week needs to happen over months.  FWIW i'm trying to get to 15 hours per week and am got like 5 weeks of 14.5 hours, so not quite there and not consistently.

Please do get a coach.  Use the TrainingPeaks tool.  All of this will help you measure your output for the purpose to ensure not over-training.

Finally, if you aren't a strong swimmer I would add more swimming into the mix, like 30-45 minutes 4 times a week.  While it doesn't translate to your race pace, it translates to comfort level.  I spend a lot of time swimming and love it.  Its so low impact and cardio-centric that the benefit to your overall fitness is very measurable.  In addition, it impacts your core strength to ensure proper posture when your muscles are getting fatigued.

If you are looking for a coach recommendation, Im happy to pass along.

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Great stuff, Thanks JAA!

This will be a slow work up for me, I am not in a rush to accomplish this IM. At the moment, I just want to live the process and not do what I have done in the past and jumped in too fast and too hard. Hell, there aren’t any IM’s or HIM’s to put on the calendar but that’s probably a good thing for me.

I’ll most likely work with my wife’s coach  (he’s a pretty inspiring dude) but I appreciate any & all advice. For example, what is the best place to find tri or cycling clothes? I’m an XL (6’ 225lbs) and I’ve had a hard time finding shorts & shirts that fit. The LBS has some gear but not much as everyone seems to have taken up cycling with the Covid. 

Look at this guy, 1st time in the thread and starts mucking it up with Cycling stuff...take it to the bike thread, Guy! 🤣🤣🤣

 
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Dark Matter said:
JAA said:
Disclosure:  I've done 1 full IM, but I train a lot and have a great coach

Id say 10-15 hours sounds good.  I would advise to plan 2 years of training.  I did 1 year of training after finishing my first HIM.  I wish I would have done 2 years.  The issue IMHO is acclimating the body to that workload.  I'm 44 and staying injury free have been problematic.  Id say like 2 annoying muscular injuries per year.  Quite frustrating.  So, just getting to 10 hours per week needs to happen over months.  FWIW i'm trying to get to 15 hours per week and am got like 5 weeks of 14.5 hours, so not quite there and not consistently.

Please do get a coach.  Use the TrainingPeaks tool.  All of this will help you measure your output for the purpose to ensure not over-training.

Finally, if you aren't a strong swimmer I would add more swimming into the mix, like 30-45 minutes 4 times a week.  While it doesn't translate to your race pace, it translates to comfort level.  I spend a lot of time swimming and love it.  Its so low impact and cardio-centric that the benefit to your overall fitness is very measurable.  In addition, it impacts your core strength to ensure proper posture when your muscles are getting fatigued.

If you are looking for a coach recommendation, Im happy to pass along.

:banned:
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Great stuff, Thanks JAA!

This will be a slow work up for me, I am not in a rush to accomplish this IM. At the moment, I just want to live the process and not do what I have done in the past and jumped in too fast and too hard. Hell, there aren’t any IM’s or HIM’s to put on the calendar but that’s probably a good thing for me.

I’ll most likely work with my wife’s coach  (he’s a pretty inspiring dude) but I appreciate any & all advice. For example, what is the best place to find tri or cycling clothes? I’m an XL (6’ 225lbs) and I’ve had a hard time finding shorts & shirts that fit. The LBS has some gear but not much as everyone seems to have taken up cycling with the Covid. 
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@Harris is our current and active IMer, IIRC.

I went from zero to IM (Lake Placid) in 3 years back in the early aughts, so I can completely empathize (I was in my late 30s then though- and the IM training still kicked my ### and literally broke my feet). started with a couple olys the first year, went to 1/2s the next, and then joined a club with great coaches and an 8-9 month training program geared to build for Lake Placid.

what kind of background do you have in terms of running or biking?

like you, I was a non-swimmer.... I mean, I knew how to swim- but I swam better with a cocktail in one hand. the whole swimming laps thing was completely new. and like JAA says- I never gained speed, but I did get myself to the point where I knew I could swim the distance. 

get a good PT if you don't already have one.

 
Dark Matter said:
For example, what is the best place to find tri or cycling clothes? I’m an XL (6’ 225lbs) and I’ve had a hard time finding shorts & shirts that fit. The LBS has some gear but not much as everyone seems to have taken up cycling with the Covid. 
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I mentioned I did this stuff a LONG time ago... but Nashbar was a spot I'd get clothing and other stuff on discount. Ebay for bike gear. I'll hang up for the people still actively doing it. 

gb @BassNBrew is a multisport bigger fella- probably a good one for recommendations.

oh... re swimming- two beat kick. 

 
SteelCurtain said:
I understand the self conscious part of it.

I never go shirtless around work because other employees could see me and that's just weird.  I have a pretty visible role and my work reputation is critical for my success (hence why I'm "Blind Ref" on strava.  Don't need the real world to find me unless I want them to.)

I run at home, its pretty rural and its usually early morning so I'm happy to run shirtless.

Interestingly, if I run in Central Park in NYC where I likely don't know anyone but there are others there, I always wear a shirt out of respect of others as I'm guessing most don't want see me half naked.
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When you say the word shirt, what does that mean?

 
El Floppo said:
@Harris is our current and active IMer, IIRC.

I went from zero to IM (Lake Placid) in 3 years back in the early aughts, so I can completely empathize (I was in my late 30s then though- and the IM training still kicked my ### and literally broke my feet). started with a couple olys the first year, went to 1/2s the next, and then joined a club with great coaches and an 8-9 month training program geared to build for Lake Placid.

what kind of background do you have in terms of running or biking?

like you, I was a non-swimmer.... I mean, I knew how to swim- but I swam better with a cocktail in one hand. the whole swimming laps thing was completely new. and like JAA says- I never gained speed, but I did get myself to the point where I knew I could swim the distance. 

get a good PT if you don't already have one.
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Thanks for the insight, El Floppo👍🏻
 

I’m a runner, always have been since running X-country in HS 100 years ago. I’ve done 1 marathon, a pile of HM’s (my favorite distance) mostly run with my wife usually 2hrs. I could go faster but I enjoy her pace and I’m not competing just completing these events. The bike is my new pleasure. I bought a nice Trek Domane 5SL, had it fitted and absolutely Love to spin. I group ride with friends and I have a great deal of confidence that the bike will be my strong event as long as I put the time in the saddle. The bike has helped me strengthen my core & lower body which have taken a beating over the course of time. My feet are in pretty bad shape as well but I found a good podiatrist & regular pedicure’s (pre-Covid) works wonders. 

 
El Floppo said:
@Harris is our current and active IMer, IIRC.
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Perhaps active but still an IM virgin and waiting to pop my cherry at the IM distance. Was supposed to be this year with IM France but you know, COVID and stuff. Now I get to train for it next year instead, this time with an infant to take care of for an extra added challenge. At least I'll be awake early to get out the door to train. 

I have done quite a few tris in my past but primarily a runner and cyclist. I think like @JAA said, just getting comfortable with something like swimming is a big step. I used to loathe swimming and it was primarily because I was horrible at it and extremely uncomfortable when I became oxygen deficient. By just going to the pool every so often and forcing myself in the water I learned a little bit each time and now I can proudly say I'm a not-as-terrible swimmer.  The same could be said with any of the disciplines though. Just getting out the door is a win each day until you're comfortable. Huge gains can be had that way, just by doing. Then you can begin to narrow the focus and goals of the training.

Training for tris, I've relied nearly exclusively on Matt Fitzgerald's Essential Week-by-Week Training Guide. It's got 10 different plans for each of the 4 distances based on your current fitness level and how much training you want to do.  But if you have the means for a coach that would certainly be the route to go.

Looking forward to following your journey @Dark Matter and welcome!  

 
Harris said:
Boot dryer? Jeebus, is it really that bad over there?
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My socks and shoes are literally SOAKED after every single run.  I run shirtless, so it doesn't take long at all for my shorts to get soaked with sweat which then just drips down my legs to my socks and shoes. :shrug:

 
gruecd said:
It takes a lot to get me out of bed at 4am to get ready to run...but 56/56 in late July will do the trick.
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Out the door around 5:10am.  First out-and-back about 6.25 miles, refill handheld and take GU, then 6.5-mile loop, refill handheld and take GU, and a final 3.25 out and back.

Overall 16 miles at 7:48/mile, 139 AHR.  Feels really good knowing I already have my "weekend" long run out of the way.

 
Dark Matter said:
Great stuff, Thanks JAA!

This will be a slow work up for me, I am not in a rush to accomplish this IM. At the moment, I just want to live the process and not do what I have done in the past and jumped in too fast and too hard. Hell, there aren’t any IM’s or HIM’s to put on the calendar but that’s probably a good thing for me.

I’ll most likely work with my wife’s coach  (he’s a pretty inspiring dude) but I appreciate any & all advice. For example, what is the best place to find tri or cycling clothes? I’m an XL (6’ 225lbs) and I’ve had a hard time finding shorts & shirts that fit. The LBS has some gear but not much as everyone seems to have taken up cycling with the Covid. 

Look at this guy, 1st time in the thread and starts mucking it up with Cycling stuff...take it to the bike thread, Guy! 🤣🤣🤣
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I recommend these bike shorts, I was 6' 230 and started with XXXL(Asian size) I'm now about 212 and moved into the XXL.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CUGDT8Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y0zgFbR7R70E4

 
gruecd said:
My socks and shoes are literally SOAKED after every single run.  I run shirtless, so it doesn't take long at all for my shorts to get soaked with sweat which then just drips down my legs to my socks and shoes. :shrug:
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Serious question - do you get enough sodium?

Fatigue could be electrolytes.  When I drank way to much water and didnt get enough salt, I would also get headaches.  Is your :pee: slightly yellow or completely clear?

 
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