Rank Tebow Week 8 (1 Viewer)

[The Dude]

Tebow has a home game against Detroit.

Here is my guess at top 12 for the week (TT excluded)

Manning vs Dolphins

Brees vs Rams

Brady vs Steelers

Roethlisberger vs New England

Fitzpatrick vs Washington

Romo vs Eagles

Vick vs Cowboys

Rivers vs Chiefs

Newton vs Vikings

Stafford vs Broncos

Schaub vs Jacksonville

Flacco vs Cardinals

Those aren't ranked and you don't have to agree on the top 12. Just an idea of relative ranking. I have to think about it more - but wanted to get the ball rolling. Please list either the guys above or below him. This will be a week's worth of fun

 

[The Dude]

Hunh? I Thought this would get some play. I'm in just for the fun factor. I own him in one league and would place him about 5.

Behind (not in order):

Brees

Brady

In a cluster with:

Roethlisberger

Manning

Vick

And ahead of:

Romo

Fitzpatrick

Rivers

Newton

Stafford

Schaub

Flacco

 

[shnikies]

Tebow has a home game against Detroit.Here is my guess at top 12 for the week (TT excluded)Manning vs DolphinsBrees vs RamsBrady vs SteelersRoethlisberger vs New EnglandFitzpatrick vs WashingtonRomo vs EaglesVick vs CowboysRivers vs ChiefsNewton vs VikingsStafford vs BroncosSchaub vs JacksonvilleFlacco vs CardinalsThose aren't ranked and you don't have to agree on the top 12. Just an idea of relative ranking. I have to think about it more - but wanted to get the ball rolling. Please list either the guys above or below him. This will be a week's worth of fun

So, Newton hasn't proved enough yet?I'd go:BreesNewtonBradyStaffordRoethlisbergerManningSchaubVickRiversTebowI have Tebow at 10 but I wouldn't argue with someone who puts him #7 behind Manning.

 

[spodog]

Sure, I'll play . . .

1 Brees vs Rams

2 Brady vs Steelers

3 Roethlisberger vs Patriots

4 Newton vs Vikings

5 Stafford vs Broncos

6 Romo vs Eagles

7 Schaub vs Jags

8 Vick vs Cowboys

9 TEBOW vs Lions

10 Manning vs Dolphins

11 Fitzpatrick vs Skins

12 Flacco vs Cardinals

13 Rivers vs Chiefs

 

[bonesman]

The first shall be last... and the last shall be first.

 

[FGITLOTR]

I'm sorry but please don't put Rivers in the same vicinity as Tebow, until he can prove otherwise. I just don't see how you can rank Tebow lower than QB 7-8 this week.

 

[shnikies]

I'm sorry but please don't put Rivers in the same vicinity as Tebow, until he can prove otherwise. I just don't see how you can rank Tebow lower than QB 7-8 this week.

I'm as high on Tebow as anyone but you have to have some doubt with Tebow against the Lions when the Dolphins sacked him seven times. The Lions matchup against Tebow as well as anyone. Would I be surprised if he put up 25 fantasy points? No but I think he's more likely to have a floor game which isn't bad but in the 12-15 point range.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I'm sorry but please don't put Rivers in the same vicinity as Tebow, until he can prove otherwise. I just don't see how you can rank Tebow lower than QB 7-8 this week.

I'm as high on Tebow as anyone but you have to have some doubt with Tebow against the Lions when the Dolphins sacked him seven times. The Lions matchup against Tebow as well as anyone. Would I be surprised if he put up 25 fantasy points? No but I think he's more likely to have a floor game which isn't bad but in the 12-15 point range.

I agree. I'll split the difference with you. I'd be happy to have 17-20 points, as a bye week filler. He's got some better matchups upcoming. By then I'll be trying to deal him away.

 

[Khy]

1 Brees vs Rams

2 Manning vs Dolphins

3 Brady vs Steelers

4 Newton vs Vikings

5 Roethlisberger vs Patriots

6 Stafford vs Broncos

7 Tebow vs Lions

8 Schaub vs Jags

9 Romo vs Eagles

10 Vick vs Cowboys

11 Fitzpatrick vs Skins

12 Flacco vs Cardinals

13 Rivers vs Chiefs

Here is how I rank them... with the season Manning is having so far I can't believe how low some of you have him ranked against the Dolphins.

 

[meatwad1]

Fellas, the wheels are comin' off for the Lions this week. Denver is pretty much a new regime and all of these dudes are playing for their careers. Teams that have a good pass rush will get burned by a guy like Tebow because he can slither away from all of their pressure. Tebow, for my money is a top five play this week and I think Denver will win.

There is a fast start team that crashes back to earth every year, the Lions are it this year. Sort of ironic that last year it was Denver. Poetic justice, I guess.

 

[shnikies]

Fellas, the wheels are comin' off for the Lions this week. Denver is pretty much a new regime and all of these dudes are playing for their careers. Teams that have a good pass rush will get burned by a guy like Tebow because he can slither away from all of their pressure. Tebow, for my money is a top five play this week and I think Denver will win.

There is a fast start team that crashes back to earth every year, the Lions are it this year. Sort of ironic that last year it was Denver. Poetic justice, I guess.

But teams with a bad rush (Dolphins) can get 7 sacks?

 

[J Giles Band]

I'm sorry but please don't put Rivers in the same vicinity as Tebow, until he can prove otherwise. I just don't see how you can rank Tebow lower than QB 7-8 this week.

You obviously didn't watch the first three quarters of Tebow's game against Miami.The end result was good and his brief track record of fantasy scoring is encouraging. But given his actual struggles on the field, his low floor tempers his high ceiling in comparison to some of the safer QB choices in the 5-10 range.

 

[The Dude]

You obviously didn't watch the first three quarters of Tebow's game against Miami.The end result was good and his brief track record of fantasy scoring is encouraging. But given his actual struggles on the field, his low floor tempers his high ceiling in comparison to some of the safer QB choices in the 5-10 range.

Cannot argue the low floor - but that was also his first start of the season. And - we'll never know - but he was likely under some huge pressure yesterday (the whole Miami recognition, all the Tebow fans on the road, etc). Maybe he didn't recover until the "this is what I do" kicked in. Only time will tell.

 

[hines]

ranking him ahead of Newton is plain silly.

1 Brees

2 Newton

3 Brady

4 Ben

5 Eli

6 Vick

7 Romo

8 Schaub

9 Stafford

10 Schaub

11 Rivers

12 Flacco

13 Tebow

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Lions stopping the run

You could run counters every single play of the game and the Lions would manage to over pursue every single time.

 

[EvilEwoks]

My list is:

Brees vs Rams

Brady vs Steelers

Roethlisberger vs New England

Romo vs Eagles

Vick vs Cowboys

Rivers vs Chiefs (assuming gates plays)

Newton vs Vikings

Tebow vs Detroit

Fitzpatrick vs Washington

Manning vs Dolphins

Flacco vs Cardinals

Stafford vs Broncos (status dependant as he's injuried)

Schaub vs Jacksonville

 

[Khy]

ranking him ahead of Newton is plain silly.

1 Brees

2 Newton

3 Brady

4 Ben

5 Eli

6 Vick

7 Romo

8 Schaub

9 Stafford

10 Schaub

11 Rivers

12 Flacco

13 Tebow

Did you watch last night's game? Flacco is trash... he's the #19 scoring QB in my league right now. That's just terrible. I honestly wouldn't start Flacco over Colt McCoy right now let alone Tebow.

 

[Hue G]

ranking him ahead of Newton is plain silly.

1 Brees

2 Newton

3 Brady

4 Ben

5 Eli

6 Vick

7 Romo

8 Schaub

9 Stafford

10 Schaub

11 Rivers

12 Flacco

13 Tebow

Did you watch last night's game? Flacco is trash... he's the #19 scoring QB in my league right now. That's just terrible. I honestly wouldn't start Flacco over Colt McCoy right now let alone Tebow.

It's just as absurd putting Tebow ahead of Stafford (assuming he plays of course) just because he had one bad week. But yeah I agree Flacco has been atrocious

 

[Khy]

ranking him ahead of Newton is plain silly.

1 Brees

2 Newton

3 Brady

4 Ben

5 Eli

6 Vick

7 Romo

8 Schaub

9 Stafford

10 Schaub

11 Rivers

12 Flacco

13 Tebow

Did you watch last night's game? Flacco is trash... he's the #19 scoring QB in my league right now. That's just terrible. I honestly wouldn't start Flacco over Colt McCoy right now let alone Tebow.

It's just as absurd putting Tebow ahead of Stafford (assuming he plays of course) just because he had one bad week. But yeah I agree Flacco has been atrocious

Well Stafford had 2 back to back bad games... granted his game vs SF last week wasn't as bad as this week but it wasn't good from a football standpoint. From a fantasy standpoint it was fine, however he has been at a rather steady decline in both completion % and in YPA. Granted it's only really a two week trend but he had a bad game each week... it's very possible it continues.

 

[Diamond]

Flacco is at home vs the Cards in week 8. They are as woefully inept at pass defense as Flacco has been at QB. Something's gotta give. I'd still rate Tebow ahead of him, but the ranking is understandable in that context.

 

[Hue G]

ranking him ahead of Newton is plain silly.

1 Brees

2 Newton

3 Brady

4 Ben

5 Eli

6 Vick

7 Romo

8 Schaub

9 Stafford

10 Schaub

11 Rivers

12 Flacco

13 Tebow

Did you watch last night's game? Flacco is trash... he's the #19 scoring QB in my league right now. That's just terrible. I honestly wouldn't start Flacco over Colt McCoy right now let alone Tebow.

It's just as absurd putting Tebow ahead of Stafford (assuming he plays of course) just because he had one bad week. But yeah I agree Flacco has been atrocious

Well Stafford had 2 back to back bad games... granted his game vs SF last week wasn't as bad as this week but it wasn't good from a football standpoint. From a fantasy standpoint it was fine, however he has been at a rather steady decline in both completion % and in YPA. Granted it's only really a two week trend but he had a bad game each week... it's very possible it continues.

I get that but it's also possible Tebow plays as bad or close to as bad as he did for 57 minutes against one of the two worst teams in the league. I guess I'm just saying that I'm not ready to call Tebow a reliable starting fantasy QB yet, of course he could become one especially with his ability to make plays with his feet but there are still a lot of questions there and I'm not trading away a legitimate top 10 fantasy QB just because I picked up Tebow, it's extremely premature.

 

[hines]

Flacco is at home vs the Cards in week 8. They are as woefully inept at pass defense as Flacco has been at QB. Something's gotta give. I'd still rate Tebow ahead of him, but the ranking is understandable in that context.

this is why I had him above Tebow. worst pass defense in the league in my opinion and it was just 2 games ago Flacco went over 300 vs Houston. last time he played a similar D in the Rams he went for 389 and 3 TDs

 

[sm8680]

I have Tebow in 3 of my 4 leagues. But I can't help but equating him to Jar Jar Binks. On the field he acts a fool but in the end he ends up winning. I have him ranked top 10

 

[chinawildman]

just checked sportsbook.com and broncos/lions still isn't showing up... guess even vegas doesn't know what to make of tebow.

 

[BroadwayG]

1-12 Tebow

 

[heropretend]

Brees vs Rams

Brady vs Steelers

Newton vs Vikings

Manning vs Dolphins

Roethlisberger vs New England

Tebow vs Detroit

Romo vs Eagles

Vick vs Cowboys

Schaub vs Jacksonville

Rivers vs Chiefs

Flacco vs Cardinals

Stafford vs Broncos

 

[BoomBoom]

just checked sportsbook.com and broncos/lions still isn't showing up... guess even vegas doesn't know what to make of tebow.

It's probably hinging on whether or not Stafford plays.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

 

[Ladsud]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

 

[el-gato-grande]

You guys would put Tebow ahead of Fitzpatrick? That's my starting decision and I'm really struggling with it.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

Detroit is terrible against the run. Until they learn how to not overpursue a counter, they'll continue to be dreadful.I can already imagine Tebow in the gun, fake handoff to Moreno to the right, keep it and scampering to the left with no one in sight. They'll get burned every single time. It's really comical watching them get toasted relentlessly on counters.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

1. Tebow

2. Vick

3. Brady

4. Newton

5. Tebow

6. Brees

7. Romo

8. Rivers

9. Schaub

10. Roethlisberger

11. Manning

12. Stafford

 

[Khy]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

Honestly, I don't find this argument that valid. So far DET has faced some of the more inept offenses in the game. Week1: TB, put up 20 points on them, even Indy held TB to 24 and they are supposed to be the worst D in the game right now... so what does that say?Week2: KC, Jamaal Charles goes down for the season and this was before KC finally started getting over the injury bug.Week3: MIN, They let up 23 points to MIN... If MIN wasn't so terrible they'd be 2-1 at this point.Week4: DAL, They were getting killed until Romo decided he was Romo and chokes more than any pro-football QB. Week5: CHI, Probably their only decent game on defense. Cutler still had a good game and Forte shredded. Best won this game for them.Week6: SF, They got beat... plain and simple. They looked terrible.Week7: ATL, Same, they got beat by ATL. ATL has been one of the worst offenses in the league this year... 3 of their 7 games have been under 15 points.Detroit did start 5-0... it was against some bad teams and a team that choked when they should've strangled. They should probably be 3-4 right now. As they should have lost in MIN and DAL... the only reasons they won is because both of the opposing teams fell apart on both sides of the ball. The first half in each of those games exposed some huge holes in the DET defense. SF and ATL seem to have discovered those holes as well. I'm far from saying DEN will win this game, but don't try and act like DET are Gods among men on defense cause they are not. Your argument is invalid... Tebow is a RB that can toss up a pass from time to time, he will likely put up 150yds passing 1 TD and another 100yd rushing and 1 TD.

 

[Hue G]

1. Tebow

2. Vick

3. Brady

4. Newton

5. Tebow

6. Brees

7. Romo

8. Rivers

9. Schaub

10. Roethlisberger

11. Manning

12. Stafford

Tebow is so good you have to rank him twice, I would have gone for one and two though

 

[NCPanthersFan]

1 Brees vs Rams

2 Manning vs Dolphins

3 Brady vs Steelers

4 Newton vs Vikings

5 Roethlisberger vs Patriots

6 Stafford vs Broncos

7 Tebow vs Lions

8 Schaub vs Jags

9 Romo vs Eagles

10 Vick vs Cowboys

11 Fitzpatrick vs Skins

12 Flacco vs Cardinals

13 Rivers vs Chiefs

Here is how I rank them... with the season Manning is having so far I can't believe how low some of you have him ranked against the Dolphins.

Manning has been sneaky-good this year in my league as well. I have him behind Stafford but if Stafford does not play this week I have no problems starting him - nor will I be running to waste a roster slot on Shaun Hill

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

First things first:

Manning vs Dolphins

Brees vs Rams

Brady vs Steelers

Roethlisberger vs New England

Fitzpatrick vs Washington Newton vs MIN [ETA]

Romo vs Eagles {push} [ETA]

Vick vs Cowboys

+ Maybe Stafford vs DEN if healthy

I don't think anyone with these guys would play Tebow ahead of them unless into rolling the dice. Because the question is do you want to risk the Tebow we saw in quarters 1-3.75 (and factor in Fox not giving him anything to work with, it's almost comical how the deck is stacked against this guy) in the hope of getting the Tebow from teh final quarter of the final quarter vs MIA?

Everything after - including Rivers, Newton, Fitz, Flacco, Schaub - is a push. Given all that I'd say put Tebow in at No. 9, No. 8 if Stafford does not play.

Flacco and Schaub would be good plays, but how do you feel after that Jags/Ravens hitfest on MNF?

And then because every QB after simply does not have the same upside.

ETA: I agree with the comments below about Newton absolutely belonging in there and Fitz maybe not. I am not sure if anyone is really betting against Fitz to rebound, but I agree I think I would start Tebow over Fitz this week. I have Tebow in every league possible, got him early too.

In one league I actually have both Stafford and Tebow; I am starting Stafford if he is cleared to play and is not a GTD.

Also to tell you the truth if I had to go with either Tebow or Romo for the rest of the year I would go with Tebow. I have always avoided Romo though.

 

[Chicken Hawkin]

I'm in the TT or Fitz boat too. I could see the wash buff game turning into a low scoring defensive battle and am gonna roll the dice with TT.

 

[Khy]

I'm in the TT or Fitz boat too. I could see the wash buff game turning into a low scoring defensive battle and am gonna roll the dice with TT.

I like it... honestly Fitz has not been that good the past few weeks. He was awful against a very very depleted Giants secondary. Granted he could turn it around coming off the bye week but he just isn't that good. I feel like Tebow has much more upside against a defense that wouldn't know a proper tackle angle if there was a line on the turf pointing how to run towards the guy with the ball.

 

[hines]

First things first:Manning vs DolphinsBrees vs RamsBrady vs SteelersRoethlisberger vs New EnglandFitzpatrick vs WashingtonRomo vs EaglesVick vs Cowboys+ Maybe Stafford vs DEN if healthyI don't think anyone with these guys would play Tebow ahead of them unless into rolling the dice. Because the question is do you want to risk the Tebow we saw in quarters 1-3.75 (and factor in Fox not giving him anything to work with, it's almost comical how the deck is stacked against this guy) in the hope of getting the Tebow from teh final quarter of the final quarter vs MIA?Everything after - including Rivers, Newton, Fitz, Flacco, Schaub - is a push. Given all that I'd say put Tebow in at No. 9, No. 8 if Stafford does not play.Flacco and Schaub would be good plays, but how do you feel after that Jags/Ravens hitfest on MNF?And then because every QB after simply does not have the same upside.

Newton is a no question lock. Newton vs Fitzpatrick or Tebow is no comparison, that's my only quabble with this list.

 

[shnikies]

First things first:Manning vs DolphinsBrees vs RamsBrady vs SteelersRoethlisberger vs New EnglandFitzpatrick vs WashingtonRomo vs EaglesVick vs Cowboys+ Maybe Stafford vs DEN if healthyI don't think anyone with these guys would play Tebow ahead of them unless into rolling the dice. Because the question is do you want to risk the Tebow we saw in quarters 1-3.75 (and factor in Fox not giving him anything to work with, it's almost comical how the deck is stacked against this guy) in the hope of getting the Tebow from teh final quarter of the final quarter vs MIA?Everything after - including Rivers, Newton, Fitz, Flacco, Schaub - is a push. Given all that I'd say put Tebow in at No. 9, No. 8 if Stafford does not play.Flacco and Schaub would be good plays, but how do you feel after that Jags/Ravens hitfest on MNF?And then because every QB after simply does not have the same upside.

Fitzpatrick hasn't gone over 15 points in three weeks and has scored around 10 twice. Washington has given up the 21st most amount of points to QBs. I don't even think it's close between him and Tebow.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

Honestly, I don't find this argument that valid. So far DET has faced some of the more inept offenses in the game. Week1: TB, put up 20 points on them, even Indy held TB to 24 and they are supposed to be the worst D in the game right now... so what does that say?Week2: KC, Jamaal Charles goes down for the season and this was before KC finally started getting over the injury bug.Week3: MIN, They let up 23 points to MIN... If MIN wasn't so terrible they'd be 2-1 at this point.Week4: DAL, They were getting killed until Romo decided he was Romo and chokes more than any pro-football QB. Week5: CHI, Probably their only decent game on defense. Cutler still had a good game and Forte shredded. Best won this game for them.Week6: SF, They got beat... plain and simple. They looked terrible.Week7: ATL, Same, they got beat by ATL. ATL has been one of the worst offenses in the league this year... 3 of their 7 games have been under 15 points.Detroit did start 5-0... it was against some bad teams and a team that choked when they should've strangled. They should probably be 3-4 right now. As they should have lost in MIN and DAL... the only reasons they won is because both of the opposing teams fell apart on both sides of the ball. The first half in each of those games exposed some huge holes in the DET defense. SF and ATL seem to have discovered those holes as well. I'm far from saying DEN will win this game, but don't try and act like DET are Gods among men on defense cause they are not. Your argument is invalid... Tebow is a RB that can toss up a pass from time to time, he will likely put up 150yds passing 1 TD and another 100yd rushing and 1 TD.

I am here to be educated, not to educate, so I appreciate your argument; I just don't see DET as that bad of a team, or DEN as that good of one. However DET has gotten here they are still 5-2; with 6-2 looking a whole lot better than 5-3, I would expect to see spirited effort. No concern by the play of DEN against MIA, for the vast majority of that game; I think you would agree that MIA is at least equal to, if not worse than, DET defensively. I am a big Tebow fan, but more for the man than the player; I hope I am wrong. Best case scenario I see is a shoot-out but I don't see a run first (more like run only) QB getting into one of these. A question: When we look at DET's rush D, is that really applicable to a scrambling QB; or is this so heavily slanted to the RB position, as to be skewed?

 

[J Giles Band]

1. Tebow

2. Vick

3. Brady

4. Newton

5. Tebow

6. Brees

7. Romo

8. Rivers

9. Schaub

10. Roethlisberger

11. Manning

12. Stafford

Tebow is so good you have to rank him twice, I would have gone for one and two though

 

[The Dude]

For the late bloomers

 

[Khy]

I am here to be educated, not to educate, so I appreciate your argument; I just don't see DET as that bad of a team, or DEN as that good of one. However DET has gotten here they are still 5-2; with 6-2 looking a whole lot better than 5-3, I would expect to see spirited effort. No concern by the play of DEN against MIA, for the vast majority of that game; I think you would agree that MIA is at least equal to, if not worse than, DET defensively. I am a big Tebow fan, but more for the man than the player; I hope I am wrong. Best case scenario I see is a shoot-out but I don't see a run first (more like run only) QB getting into one of these. A question: When we look at DET's rush D, is that really applicable to a scrambling QB; or is this so heavily slanted to the RB position, as to be skewed?

The way I see it they aren't built to stop anything so much as they are built to interrupt to make the stopping of plays easier. Tebow will get sacked in this game several times, but when he makes a tiny play it will turn into a big one simply because of the style of defense DET runs. He will bust some big runs in this game for sure. His overall success still hinges on how much the coaching staff is willing to evolve the playbook around Tebow's strengths. They need to run a lot of small screens and options. That's where Tebow excels... they can't expect more than like a 10% success rate on long balls

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Lions stopping the run You could run counters every single play of the game and the Lions would manage to over pursue every single time.

Look at who Detroit has played. They've played teams that are good at running the ball and have studs carrying it. Forte, Turner, Peterson, and Gore.Denver without McGahee makes me Detroit will be able to stop Moreno and Lance Ball leaving the game up to Tebow's arm. I don't think Denver matches up well with Detroit's Defense (especially without McGahee) and I think Tim Tebow gets pulverized this week. Tebow over Cam? Wha?

 

[packersfan]

Detroit will be able to stop Moreno and Lance Ball leaving the game up to Tebow's arm.

Tebow's a pretty big part of the Denver rushing attack too, arguably the most important part with McGahee out. The Lions have been vulnerable between the tackles in the run game. The designed QB draws for Tebow could prove to be an effective weapon for Denver on Sunday. I like Tebow more as a physical runner between the tackles than Moreno for what it's worth.

 

[meatwad1]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

lol...the wheels are comin' off baby!!!!!! Every year there is a team that starts like gangbusters and then proceeds to tank. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN... I give you your 2011 Detroit Lions!!!!!!

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Detroit will be able to stop Moreno and Lance Ball leaving the game up to Tebow's arm.

Tebow's a pretty big part of the Denver rushing attack too, arguably the most important part with McGahee out. The Lions have been vulnerable between the tackles in the run game. The designed QB draws for Tebow could prove to be an effective weapon for Denver on Sunday. I like Tebow more as a physical runner between the tackles than Moreno for what it's worth.

I think Detroit's front 7 is much better than Miami's, if Denver wants to run Tebow up the gut all day then good luck to them.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I am really missing the Tebow ranking here. Tebow is throwing to two rookie WR's, and the FFB point machine known as Eddie Royal, has had his team's starting RB shelved because of injury only to be replaced by Jim Brown incarnate, Lance Ball, and is facing a pretty formidable defense in the Lions (top 10 overall, #4 against the QB, #9 against the RB - if you prefer to think of him as that); how does this possibly look to be a successful day?

Lions been gashed on the ground, Tebow should put up 75-100 on the ground. Thats where his value is so he should have a good game. 150/1 75/1, I like it. Lions are 28th in the league in rush defense.

No concern of yours that DET is coming off of two tough losses, after being 5-0; do you really think they aren't going to come ready to play? With Stafford's status in limbo I would turn my focus to my defense and certainly key on a relatively inexperienced QB.

lol...the wheels are comin' off baby!!!!!! Every year there is a team that starts like gangbusters and then proceeds to tank. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN... I give you your 2011 Detroit Lions!!!!!!