fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
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LOL!!Glad I could make you laugh by ignoring my basic point that they've done well against non-elite running backs.Of course they are focused on matchup. It is win or go home time. Nobody is picking Williams up for week 15, there may not be a week 15 to worry about."They held TRich and Gio to 47. They held Storm Johson to 21 in the week where he started"I think people who are higher on Williams than others are too focused on the matchup and forgetting just how lackluster Williams was when Jennings was out the first time around. In those 4 games, Williams never hit 60 rushing yards. He had rushing totals of 22, 33, 51 and 59. He also had 2 games with no catches and had 1 and 2 in the others. He did get 2 TDs but those came in games where he had less than 50 yards total. Ultimately through 4 starts, he averaged 8.6 points in PPR. That's incredibly pedestrian. If you think he will overachieve this week because of matchup, I get that but the Titans rank as low as they do because they've been destroyed by the likes of Shady, Bell, Forsett, Foster and Murray, which totally inflate their yards allowed total. They held Morris to 54 yards. They held TRich and Gio to 47. They held Storm Johson to 21 in the week where he started. They can contain mediocre RBs and Andre Williams is that. We are still talking about a guy with a 2.9ypc this season who is pretty much nonexistent in the passing game. This game was a dream matchup for Jennings. For Williams.... eh. I'd flex him with moderate expectations but any talk of him being a viable RB2 is the same overrating he got when he took over for Jennings the first time.
Of course this could be the rantings of a bitter Jennings owner in two leagues who has Andre Williams in neither.
LOL!!!!!!!!
Let's get this straight, because I don't think you have grasped the point.Fair enough. I'm man enough to admit I was wrong (and not childish enough to do what you just did but that isn't important)
debating between him and tre mason this week. i honestly was planning on mason because I assumed they would continue to give more carries to williams, seeing what they have in him and if he's turned the corner or was just torching a crappy titans d. the washington D scares me more than arizona's run d. but if rashad does carry close to a full load, i'm back to square one.Rotoworld saying per Coughlin that Jennings should carry more of a full load this week. He's not even on the injury report. Anyone trusting him? After Williams' great game against the hapless Titans does that earn him more of a 50/50 timeshare or do we think Jennings goes back to 60/70 % of the touches?
Clearly Beckham is going to have a huge game then at least.Ladsud said:Giants coach Tom Coughlin hinted the team may take a hot-hand approach at running back in Week 15 against the Redskins.
Keep in mind the Redskins consistently play strong run defense, so it's entirely possible neither Andre Williams nor Rashad Jennings establishes a hot hand on Sunday. Still, this is a big concern for Jennings' fantasy outlook and an indication Williams may have earned more of the carry share after his Week 14 breakout game. Coughlin called the starting running back "not important," and said the Giants will "see how things go after the first 15 plays" when determining which running back will get more work. Jennings is a dicey RB2/flex play in fantasy semifinals week.
They were throwing the ball last week up 33-7 late in the 3rd Q last week.Clearly Beckham is going to have a huge game then at least.Ladsud said:Giants coach Tom Coughlin hinted the team may take a hot-hand approach at running back in Week 15 against the Redskins.
Keep in mind the Redskins consistently play strong run defense, so it's entirely possible neither Andre Williams nor Rashad Jennings establishes a hot hand on Sunday. Still, this is a big concern for Jennings' fantasy outlook and an indication Williams may have earned more of the carry share after his Week 14 breakout game. Coughlin called the starting running back "not important," and said the Giants will "see how things go after the first 15 plays" when determining which running back will get more work. Jennings is a dicey RB2/flex play in fantasy semifinals week.
Why so sure? I have both and feel safer with Williams for a TD and no injury to aggravateJennings plays and plays well this week. I'm confident about this. Williams against a better rush D is going to be his typical underwhelming self.
I'm going with Latavius and Herron so I don't have to sweat this.Why so sure? I have both and feel safer with Williams for a TD and no injury to aggravateJennings plays and plays well this week. I'm confident about this. Williams against a better rush D is going to be his typical underwhelming self.
Keep us posted.I'm going with Latavius and Herron so I don't have to sweat this.Why so sure? I have both and feel safer with Williams for a TD and no injury to aggravateJennings plays and plays well this week. I'm confident about this. Williams against a better rush D is going to be his typical underwhelming self.
Williams, probably has the best chance of finding the end zone.Would you guys start Jennings or Williams if you HAD to start one HAD to
From what i've read up to this point, Jennings.Would you guys start Jennings or Williams if you HAD to start one HAD to
Don't really agree with this. Williams has the bulldozer reputation so it's east to say this, but if they've got their best RB on some type of snap count, they're going to make some of those carries happen in the redzone. Which they'll see a lot of against the Redskins.Williams, probably has the best chance of finding the end zone.Would you guys start Jennings or Williams if you HAD to start one HAD to
He is the Kevin Smith for a new generation.Rashad is 110% woman. Reinjures his ankle on the first play. #### you!
The Giants are fully expected to keep Rashad Jennings despite the signing of Shane Vereen.
The Giants now have a crowded backfield with Andre Williams in addition to Vereen, Jennings and Chris Ogbonnaya. But cutting Jennings would barely save any money and he's still a quality all-around back. Expect a full-blown timeshare, capping Jennings' fantasy upside. He's not going to come close to the 17.9 touches per game he averaged last year.
Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter
Mar 10 - 2:44 PM
NJ.com's Nick Powell expects Rashad Jennings to remain the Giants' starting tailback this season.
There were whispers the Giants might cut Jennings after signing Shane Vereen, but Powell refers to Jennings as the "starter" and to Vereen as a "complement." Vereen is best suited for a passing-down and change-of-pace role. Jennings will lose some PPR value to Vereen, but should come at a big discount in 2015 drafts. He regularly went in the fourth and fifth rounds last year. This offseason, Jennings often lasts until rounds eight and ten in MFL10 best-ball drafts.
Related: Shane Vereen
Source: NJ.com
Apr 20 - 4:10 PM
Rashad Jennings - RB - Giants
NJ.com's Jordan Raanan suggests Rashad Jennings, Shane Vereen, and Andre Williams could be utilized in a "45-40-15" split this season.
Raanan concedes this is a "complete guess." Jennings remains the lead runner, and the Giants' best all-around back. Vereen has generated the most offseason buzz, which could result in him being overdrafted. He is a career role player. Williams was ineffective as a rookie and is a limited, two-down back. Jennings makes for the best fantasy target at his current sixth-round Average Draft Slot.
Related: Shane Vereen, Andre Williams
Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter
Jun 12 - 3:10 PM
ESPN Giants reporter Dan Graziano expects Rashad Jennings to lead the Giants in running back touches.
Shane Vereen has generated a considerable amount of buzz this offseason, but Graziano believes the Giants still want Jennings to handle the early-down work "as long as he can stay healthy." The healthy part is a concern as Jennings has missed time with injuries in four of the last five seasons, but Vereen and Andre Williams could help to limit Jennings' touches and keep him healthy. Even with Vereen in town, Jennings is a good bet for 200 touches.
Related: Andre Williams, Shane Vereen
Source: ESPN.com
Jun 13 - 12:59 PM
Early down work is a bit of a misnomer.Faust said:Rotoworld:
ESPN Giants reporter Dan Graziano expects Rashad Jennings to lead the Giants in running back touches.
Shane Vereen has generated a considerable amount of buzz this offseason, but Graziano believes the Giants still want Jennings to handle the early-down work "as long as he can stay healthy." The healthy part is a concern as Jennings has missed time with injuries in four of the last five seasons, but Vereen and Andre Williams could help to limit Jennings' touches and keep him healthy. Even with Vereen in town, Jennings is a good bet for 200 touches.
Related: Andre Williams, Shane Vereen
Source: ESPN.com
Jun 13 - 12:59 PM
Rotoworld:
NJ.com expects the Giants to utilize Shane Vereen as more than a third-down back.
The Giants were fond of three-receiver sets last season, using them 65 percent of the time on 1st-and-10. Speaking Wednesday, coach Tom Coughlin praised Vereen's effectiveness out of three-receiver sets. "Quite frankly, it's something from an attack standpoint we've had some success with, but not to the extent that he has," Coughlin said. "First down, if it was zone coverage, (the Patriots) were dropping the ball down and he would scoot." It's wise of the G-Men to avoid pigeonholing their new back, but he's still third on the early-down totem pole behind Rashad Jennings and Andre Williams.
Source: NJ.com
Mar 26 - 5:17 PM
Rotoworld:
ESPN Giants reporter Dan Graziano gets the idea Shane Vereen "might be more important than initially thought."
Vereen's main role will be as a third-down back, catching passes and helping protect Eli Manning. But Rashad Jennings is 30 years old and couldn't stay healthy last year, and Andre Williams was brutally ineffective. It's very possible Vereen, who is getting plenty of inside reps at OTAs, will earn more playing time as the year moves along. That will especially be true if the Giants use as much no-huddle as they did last year.
Related: Rashad Jennings, Andre Williams
Source: ESPN New York
Jun 2 - 10:31 AM
Vereen is going to be on the field in any down and distance, and will usually run against favorable looks in three wide sets and the no huddle. He's the main guy on third down and should get plenty of receptions, but he should also get more carries than he did with the Patriots and have a better than normal rush average. And they're already using him heavily in the red area.Rotoworld:
NJ.com's Jordan Raanan says Shane Vereen is "going to be a big part of the offense."
This is the second beat reporter in the last seven days to single out Vereen as someone standing out during OTAs. He will handle the passing back work, be featured in a no-huddle look the Giants use a ton of and will spell 30-year-old Rashad Jennings. Per Raanan, Vereen "caught pass after pass out of the backfield, in particular in the red zone" during Monday's work.
Source: NJ.com
Jun 9 - 9:45 AM
I'm not sure I buy all the angles in the article but I Do think he is an overlooked bargain. Classic case of an older guy that has shown he can do things but gets too old, not trendy. Just not sexy and buzz-worthy. He's entered the Reggie Wayne/Q Boldin-type club of the last few years; guys nobody ever wants to rank high but always got it done.
I don't think many question his ability, they question how many touches he'll get due to Vareen/Williams/Injury.I'm not sure I buy all the angles in the article but I Do think he is an overlooked bargain. Classic case of an older guy that has shown he can do things but gets too old, not trendy. Just not sexy and buzz-worthy. He's entered the Reggie Wayne/Q Boldin-type club of the last few years; guys nobody ever wants to rank high but always got it done.
He never has been very durable, add that to his age and ill pass in a dynasty draft, redraft I might get him late as my 4th or 5th rbI'm not sure I buy all the angles in the article but I Do think he is an overlooked bargain. Classic case of an older guy that has shown he can do things but gets too old, not trendy. Just not sexy and buzz-worthy. He's entered the Reggie Wayne/Q Boldin-type club of the last few years; guys nobody ever wants to rank high but always got it done.
i think this is why he may be overlooked. He may be available cheap in which case i will be buying.I don't think many question his ability, they question how many touches he'll get due to Vareen/Williams/Injury.I'm not sure I buy all the angles in the article but I Do think he is an overlooked bargain. Classic case of an older guy that has shown he can do things but gets too old, not trendy. Just not sexy and buzz-worthy. He's entered the Reggie Wayne/Q Boldin-type club of the last few years; guys nobody ever wants to rank high but always got it done.
If he's really cheap, sure, but what has he ever done to warrant being in the same conversation as Wayne and Boldin?i think this is why he may be overlooked. He may be available cheap in which case i will be buying.I don't think many question his ability, they question how many touches he'll get due to Vareen/Williams/Injury.I'm not sure I buy all the angles in the article but I Do think he is an overlooked bargain. Classic case of an older guy that has shown he can do things but gets too old, not trendy. Just not sexy and buzz-worthy. He's entered the Reggie Wayne/Q Boldin-type club of the last few years; guys nobody ever wants to rank high but always got it done.
1450 yards and 10 tds in 16 gamesIf he's really cheap, sure, but what has he ever done to warrant being in the same conversation as Wayne and Boldin?
Lol. Even if that was one of his seasons, it still wouldn't put him in the conversation with those two.1450 yards and 10 tds in 16 gamesIf he's really cheap, sure, but what has he ever done to warrant being in the same conversation as Wayne and Boldin?
2nd half of 2013 when he tool over the job he was a strong rb1 the rest of the way. He was also a rb1 to start 2014 with the Giants. I'm on record as thinking that vereen is going to get a lot more work than people expect. I turned down a trade to acquire Jennings in dynasty because his days are numbered and he wouldn't start for my team without injury. But he's a decent short term play at rb2. Probably on par with Frank gore who sends to be getting much more love these days.Lol. Even if that was one of his seasons, it still wouldn't put him in the conversation with those two.1450 yards and 10 tds in 16 gamesIf he's really cheap, sure, but what has he ever done to warrant being in the same conversation as Wayne and Boldin?
Now compare that to Wayne and Boldin...bostonfred said:2nd half of 2013 when he tool over the job he was a strong rb1 the rest of the way. He was also a rb1 to start 2014 with the Giants.I'm on record as thinking that vereen is going to get a lot more work than people expect. I turned down a trade to acquire Jennings in dynasty because his days are numbered and he wouldn't start for my team without injury. But he's a decent short term play at rb2. Probably on par with Frank gore who sends to be getting much more love these days.humpback said:Lol. Even if that was one of his seasons, it still wouldn't put him in the conversation with those two.bostonfred said:1450 yards and 10 tds in 16 gameshumpback said:If he's really cheap, sure, but what has he ever done to warrant being in the same conversation as Wayne and Boldin?
When you add in receptions for a ppr, it isn't comparable. When you compare apples to apples (actual seasons or cherry pick best parts of seasons for all 3 guys instead of just 1), the gap widens drastically. When you look at their 2nd, 3rd, etc. best seasons (or cherry picked parts of seasons), it isn't on the same planet.Waynes career year was 1510/10. Boldin 1384/7. Jennings 16 game stretch as a mostly healthy starter (he missed time in games) was 1450/10. Comparable.