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Ray Rice video of KO punch released (2 Viewers)

Interview on ESPN just made it sound like not much more can be done unless team deactivates him?
yeah

the ravens think this is no big deal, they made that pretty clear

i am sure ravens fans will do the right thing and demand he be released...oh wait, nevermind, they will give him a standing O game 3

the NFL and Ravens already did the hard part, they kept this hidden till after the punishment was handed down

 
Yes. Where the heck is the DA? I cant stand Roger Goodell and I am smart enough to know that he should not be expected to hand out punishments in a fair and consistent way on criminal issues. Blanket, black & white policies? Sure? But consistency on any of the thousands of crimes that could be commited by NFL-related people? Impossible! the guy runs a sports league.

This is the DA/court's job and they are the ones to point the finger at.
Yes the DA and police should be investigated too.
Why?

it is the law down there that first time domestic abusers can get off with counselling

perhaps we need to look at society and ask when we will stand up and say these things cannot happen. But wait, we still have people defending him because he can carry a football for their team. If only women were more athletic, then maybe we'd care about them

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.

 
And she hit him outside the elevator at the beginning of the video. Which is probably why she was initially charged with assault.
What did he say to her? Why did she push him away?
:lmao:

Was he injured? Please tell us how bad he was injured, and how he had no choice in what he did, and how he was forced to get in the elevator by a physically-superior woman, and how he had to corner her, and how he had to knock her out to defend himself.

Please. Tell us.
Simple question. Was she acting aggressive inside or outside the elevator?
"Acting aggressive". Again, you try to generalize an action. What you should be asking is "Was she aggressive to the point where Rice felt his safety was jeopardy and he had to corner her, hit her once (maybe spit on her) and then when she fought back hit her in the head hard enough to knock her unconscious?".
Based on that, then there is nothing she could do without the use of a weapon that would make Rice feel unsafe.

It amazes me the number of people that are mad at the NFL and the Ravens. The DA didn't pursue charges against Rice. Why do you think that is?
I don't know. Neither do you. Do you want to get into a discussion of our justice system, and why much more violent assaults occur every day and don't get jail time assigned (for first time offenders, sometimes second), especially if you are able to afford the best legal representation in your area?

Because I don't, and it has nothing at all to do with Rice attacking her in the elevator.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Please don't hit me.

 
If she doesn't approach him, he doesn't knock her out.
Every female that approaches you and is angry, you knock out?

Must be a barrel of fun in your household.

*ETA* Not accusing you of actually doing this - just making a point that your statement is one of the most idiotic things I have ever read on these forums.
If she doesn't approach him, he doesn't knock her out.
So you're justifying his actions?
I'm looking at the entire incident. She did initiate contact with him outside the elevator. Then she approaches him in the elevator. Both parties could have done things differently.

Point still remains, Goodell has changed the punishment structure on domestic abuse. Something good will come out of this situation, isn't that what people want?
If I ko'd everyone who "approached" me I would be in jail. Fact.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Please don't hit me.
So simple response for righteous people to be passive aggressive, ironic.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Ok, own it False, you drafted Rice as your RB2 and you really need him because you went WR heavy and RB lite.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Please don't hit me.
:lmao:

 
Yes. Where the heck is the DA? I cant stand Roger Goodell and I am smart enough to know that he should not be expected to hand out punishments in a fair and consistent way on criminal issues. Blanket, black & white policies? Sure? But consistency on any of the thousands of crimes that could be commited by NFL-related people? Impossible! the guy runs a sports league.

This is the DA/court's job and they are the ones to point the finger at.
Yes the DA and police should be investigated too.
Why?

it is the law down there that first time domestic abusers can get off with counselling

perhaps we need to look at society and ask when we will stand up and say these things cannot happen. But wait, we still have people defending him because he can carry a football for their team. If only women were more athletic, then maybe we'd care about them
Because that's assault. Or any number of other pathways the DA could have taken to make this stick and get this guy in jail during the season.

Expecting consistency in criminal justice from a business focused on getting an oblong ball across a goal-line is unrealistic.

However we should demand it from the criminal justice system; and even that system, which is considered by some the best in human history at adjudicating justice, gets it wrong far too often.

 
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Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Ok, own it False, you drafted Rice as your RB2 and you really need him because you went WR heavy and RB lite.
Nope, I think Rice is not what he once was and would not draft him and do not own him in any league.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior

 
And she hit him outside the elevator at the beginning of the video. Which is probably why she was initially charged with assault.
What did he say to her? Why did she push him away?
:lmao:

Was he injured? Please tell us how bad he was injured, and how he had no choice in what he did, and how he was forced to get in the elevator by a physically-superior woman, and how he had to corner her, and how he had to knock her out to defend himself.

Please. Tell us.
Simple question. Was she acting aggressive inside or outside the elevator?
"Acting aggressive". Again, you try to generalize an action. What you should be asking is "Was she aggressive to the point where Rice felt his safety was jeopardy and he had to corner her, hit her once (maybe spit on her) and then when she fought back hit her in the head hard enough to knock her unconscious?".
Based on that, then there is nothing she could do without the use of a weapon that would make Rice feel unsafe.

It amazes me the number of people that are mad at the NFL and the Ravens. The DA didn't pursue charges against Rice. Why do you think that is?
The DA did pursue charges against Ray Rice. He charged him with third-degree assault causing bodily injury. He accepted a pretrial intervention program.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Please don't hit me.
So simple response for righteous people to be passive aggressive, ironic.
Reminds us again what she said to him.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
Actually, what's pathetic is you assuming that anyone disagreeing with you is "disingenuous". What's pathetic is that you put out the most extreme example of what she could say so that you can defend him knocking her out instead of walking away.

What's pathetic is you comparing an argument in a hotel lobby to someone walking in to their bedroom and seeing another man doing their wife and losing their mind.

If you are so weak minded that you would hit someone for telling you they were cheating on you, or gave you STDs (not even knowing if they are lying or not, because they are infuriated at you and are saying anything to piss you off), then that's pathetic. And I actually enjoy a good fight now and then (or used to, before I got old). I think settling things with your hands is appropriate in some cases - just not with a woman who is angry with you or just yelling at you.

I just realized - what's pathetic is me: I'm arguing with you and KC about this when you guys are throwing out hyperbole and comparisons that make no sense at all.

I'm sure you've better things to do as well. Go knock 'em out.

 
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Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there

 
looks like he initiated it, laid hands on her first and then left hand punched her

I cannot believe NFL let this pass - wow

 
“It’s not a big deal, it’s just part of the process,” Harbaugh said, via ESPN. “There are consequences when you make a mistake like that. I stand behind Ray. He’s a heck of a guy. He’s done everything right since. He makes a mistake, alright? He’s going to have to pay a consequence. I think that’s good for kids to understand it works that way. That’s how it works, that’s how it should be.”

 
That's sickening. What a complete #####.

And if I'm the Ravens no way in hell I want this guy on my team. He's gotta go.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there
So you would allow your wife to say to you "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."

 
And she hit him outside the elevator at the beginning of the video. Which is probably why she was initially charged with assault.
What did he say to her? Why did she push him away?
:lmao:

Was he injured? Please tell us how bad he was injured, and how he had no choice in what he did, and how he was forced to get in the elevator by a physically-superior woman, and how he had to corner her, and how he had to knock her out to defend himself.

Please. Tell us.
Simple question. Was she acting aggressive inside or outside the elevator?
"Acting aggressive". Again, you try to generalize an action. What you should be asking is "Was she aggressive to the point where Rice felt his safety was jeopardy and he had to corner her, hit her once (maybe spit on her) and then when she fought back hit her in the head hard enough to knock her unconscious?".
Based on that, then there is nothing she could do without the use of a weapon that would make Rice feel unsafe.

It amazes me the number of people that are mad at the NFL and the Ravens. The DA didn't pursue charges against Rice. Why do you think that is?
The DA did pursue charges against Ray Rice. He charged him with third-degree assault causing bodily injury. He accepted a pretrial intervention program.
YOU GUYS ARE MOVING THE GOAL-POSTS HERE. Was it the domestic violence first offense excuse, or this plea excuse?

If the latter, why was he offered that?

NO MATTER THE ANSWER TO THE ABOVE QUESTIONS, the criminal justice systems manner of dealing with this is far, far more of a problem than the NFL's consistency in punishments

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there
So you would allow your wife to say to you "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
is that what she said? oh wait, you want os badly to defend the woman beater you make #### up

and i would not knock her out, i would not lay a hand on her

you are saying you would punch your wife in the face for saying that? correct? You'd just knock her the #### out....

i just want to be clear that you are saying yes, there are circumstances where you proudly state you would knock a woman out

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there
:goodposting:

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeahshe prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
I'm the problem, clearly.
You got something right in here...Moron

 
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That's sickening. What a complete #####.

And if I'm the Ravens no way in hell I want this guy on my team. He's gotta go.
I hadn't thought about it, but it does raise some chemistry issues with teammates , that have, you know, wives, daughters, girlfriends, sisters, mothers. But, OTH , coach seems cool with it.
 
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Yes. Where the heck is the DA? I cant stand Roger Goodell and I am smart enough to know that he should not be expected to hand out punishments in a fair and consistent way on criminal issues. Blanket, black & white policies? Sure? But consistency on any of the thousands of crimes that could be commited by NFL-related people? Impossible! the guy runs a sports league.

This is the DA/court's job and they are the ones to point the finger at.
I was in agreement with the two games Goodell doled out because it's not his job to levy punishment. My assumption was that the video would show Rice had a bad reaction to something she did since she was also charged. In the end Rice pleas to DV classes; two games, fine. After watching that video, I think Goodell did a poor job of "protecting the shield." The new DV policy is an attempt to correct his failure, but I think he needs to revise it to say at least 6 games. He should have been able to foresee the public backlash from that video. As such, he should have taken a much tougher stance.

I'm also amazed that she was charged with anything after watching the video.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there
So you would allow your wife to say to you "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
is that what she said? oh wait, you want os badly to defend the woman beater you make #### up

and i would not knock her out, i would not lay a hand on her

you are saying you would punch your wife in the face for saying that? correct? You'd just knock her the #### out....

i just want to be clear that you are saying yes, there are circumstances where you proudly state you would knock a woman out
I was putting a hypothetical for all those self righteous people out there, sorry you cant catch on.

 
The Ravens still have a chance to come out looking great here--suspend him for the remaining four games of the new 6 game ban.

 
Yes. Where the heck is the DA? I cant stand Roger Goodell and I am smart enough to know that he should not be expected to hand out punishments in a fair and consistent way on criminal issues. Blanket, black & white policies? Sure? But consistency on any of the thousands of crimes that could be commited by NFL-related people? Impossible! the guy runs a sports league.

This is the DA/court's job and they are the ones to point the finger at.
I was in agreement with the two games Goodell doled out because it's not his job to levy punishment. My assumption was that the video would show Rice had a bad reaction to something she did since she was also charged. In the end Rice pleas to DV classes; two games, fine.After watching that video, I think Goodell did a poor job of "protecting the shield." The new DV policy is an attempt to correct his failure, but I think he needs to revise it to say at least 6 games. He should have been able to foresee the public backlash from that video. As such, he should have taken a much tougher stance.

I'm also amazed that she was charged with anything after watching the video.
Charges against her were dropped when the DA saw the video.

 
How about a more realistic approach to this soap opera..... I can't believe you're looking at her @$$ right in front of me....or how about you stop flirting with the cocktail waitress....She was flirting with me, blah blah...I'm leaving....and so on.

We've all been there. Now. I go Ike Turner on my fiancee? Negative.

 
Hypothetical questions really get people upset.

But no one is self righteous.

Remember the hypothetical question of would you do _______ for $1,000,000? Everyone says no, until the money is in front of them, then hmmmm.... what do you do.

Those here seem to look at hypothetical and every situation as it is black and white. That is truly a shame, but again if you create a hypothetical you are despicable. Priceless.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeah

she prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
See, again, simple for the righteous people to be passive aggressive. Ironic.

I'm the problem, clearly, and not the fake self righteous people who are only saying what society expects of them.
you are despicable

nothing passive there
So you would allow your wife to say to you "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
Man, seriously - what f*****g planet are you from? You're so entrenched in your pro-beating ideology that you hinge your argument on if B-Deep would hit his wife for saying she slept with another dude, was pleased with his size, and then got a good ol' case of the Herps?

Truly, you are one of the weirdest people I've ever come across on a forum.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeahshe prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
I'm the problem, clearly.
You got something right in here...Moron
For creating a hypothetical situation? :lol:

You seem angry about calling names, but are against hitting women. Weird. Name calling OK, violence, NO. Got it.

 
Hard to blame DA here - got the indictment for aggravated assault. Presumably Rice, with no priors, was able to plea bargain down to a lesser charge - which is what happens in 99% of criminal cases. Not every criminal gets jail time - even for domestic violence, and certainly someone with a clean record will get more leeway than someone with a lengthy rap sheet.

Add in the fact that they got married (and the DA would not be able to call the victim as a witness), and you have enough issues for the DA to take a deal, rather than deal with a bunch of high profile attorneys on a rather routine case.

 
Hypothetical questions really get people upset.

But no one is self righteous.

Remember the hypothetical question of would you do _______ for $1,000,000? Everyone says no, until the money is in front of them, then hmmmm.... what do you do.

Those here seem to look at hypothetical and every situation as it is black and white. That is truly a shame, but again if you create a hypothetical you are despicable. Priceless.
Man you're trying hard to justify this. How many women have you knocked out?

 
So many angry dudes getting angry and name calling, in a thread where they are trying to be against the violence.

Over a hypothetical, but again, no one is self righteous.

 
Yes. Where the heck is the DA? I cant stand Roger Goodell and I am smart enough to know that he should not be expected to hand out punishments in a fair and consistent way on criminal issues. Blanket, black & white policies? Sure? But consistency on any of the thousands of crimes that could be commited by NFL-related people? Impossible! the guy runs a sports league.

This is the DA/court's job and they are the ones to point the finger at.
I was in agreement with the two games Goodell doled out because it's not his job to levy punishment. My assumption was that the video would show Rice had a bad reaction to something she did since she was also charged. In the end Rice pleas to DV classes; two games, fine.After watching that video, I think Goodell did a poor job of "protecting the shield." The new DV policy is an attempt to correct his failure, but I think he needs to revise it to say at least 6 games. He should have been able to foresee the public backlash from that video. As such, he should have taken a much tougher stance.

I'm also amazed that she was charged with anything after watching the video.
Yeah, I agree, Nero. The worst part is he interviewed the victim in the same room as the perp. For an extreme comparision - imagine interviewing a witness to a murder with the purported killer in the chair next to the witness. How honest do you think the witness is going to be?

Horrible move by Goodell.

 
Reading through this thread sickens me almost as much as watching that video. Some if the comments in here in defense of Rice have been absolutely vile. My hope is that these comments are representative only of trolls on the internet, and not of most people in this forum, or society in general.

 
Hypothetical questions really get people upset.

But no one is self righteous.

Remember the hypothetical question of would you do _______ for $1,000,000? Everyone says no, until the money is in front of them, then hmmmm.... what do you do.

Those here seem to look at hypothetical and every situation as it is black and white. That is truly a shame, but again if you create a hypothetical you are despicable. Priceless.
Man you're trying hard to justify this. How many women have you knocked out?
I must of knocked out many because I type a hypothetical on the internet.

I think its funny there are so many fake people in here. Getting mad, but acting like they have the restraint to not hit a woman when they dont even have the restraint to not name call on a message forum.

 
Its a little difficult to feel that sorry for her. She still married the #####.
This, and you dont know what she said. She could have said "I slept with your best friend in our bed on your birthday and he was bigger and better.... oh, and he gave me herpes."
So?
Seriously?

Whats pathetic is the amount of disingenuous people in this thread who are so righteous.

I would call you less of a man if you let a woman get away with saying those words to you if they actually happened.

I am willing to bet half the people here saying they would never hit a woman would change their tone quick if they walked in on them cheating or if you found out she gave you an STD.

Stop it, but again, keep doing whats expected of you in soceiety and thats saying the right things if you mean them or not.
yeahshe prolly deserved it

they prolly all deserve it

poor ray rice man, she may have given himcompletely hypothetically given him herpes and he is suspended for it!!!!!!!

False Start is the problem. People tolerate and excuse this behavior
I'm the problem, clearly.
You got something right in here...Moron
For creating a hypothetical situation? :lol:

You seem angry about calling names, but are against hitting women. Weird. Name calling OK, violence, NO. Got it.
I shouldn't get into this, but are you saying nobody should have an opinion on this because we don't know the situation and don't know how we would react to your hypothetical? I think that might be more revealing to yourself than to me. I wonder if you'd have this same conversation with your wife or girlfriend.

 
Hypothetical questions really get people upset.

But no one is self righteous.

Remember the hypothetical question of would you do _______ for $1,000,000? Everyone says no, until the money is in front of them, then hmmmm.... what do you do.

Those here seem to look at hypothetical and every situation as it is black and white. That is truly a shame, but again if you create a hypothetical you are despicable. Priceless.
Man you're trying hard to justify this. How many women have you knocked out?
I must of knocked out many because I type a hypothetical on the internet.

I think its funny there are so many fake people in here. Getting mad, but acting like they have the restraint to not hit a woman when they dont even have the restraint to not name call on a message forum.
You don't know how many you've knocked out? Is it that many or do you blackout with rage?

 
Hypothetical questions really get people upset.

But no one is self righteous.

Remember the hypothetical question of would you do _______ for $1,000,000? Everyone says no, until the money is in front of them, then hmmmm.... what do you do.

Those here seem to look at hypothetical and every situation as it is black and white. That is truly a shame, but again if you create a hypothetical you are despicable. Priceless.
No, the problem is you are justifying HITTING (physical) her for what she may have SAID (words). Not because you created a "hypothetical".

 

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