JohnnyU
Footballguy
Well, they passed on a RB in the early rounds last year and they need to upgrade many positions. Plus, Dowdle did pretty well. He is a 1000 rusher.
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RB Ashton Jeanty, LV (2 Viewers)
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efactor
Footballguy
I would but doubt the person with the #1 pick would do that deal.
I just offered #3 and #11 for the #1 overall and expect that to be rejected.
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Agreed. I don't think any owner in our league, if they had the #1, would give it up for either of those pairs.
Would I? In a heartbeat. This class really drops off fast from my perspective.
But as the others said, seriously doubt that gets it done.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I doubt I'd trade #1 for 2/6 let alone 6/9
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Your going to have to offer 2026 1st as well for any hope of that
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
6 and 9 shouldn't be getting it done.
But if it is, you should do it, immediately.
But if it is, you should do it, immediately.
MAC_32
Footballguy
No, I try to use 1.9 to add a future 1.
Gandalf
Footballguy
K
so you trade down into the second? How far down do you go?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wouldn’t give up Jeanty for that. In a DEVY league I turned down McCaffrey and Evans for him.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I'd pivot to a player before I dropped too far (this is how I got Jeudy last yr)
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
You guys are overvaluing him without seeing his combine #s first....Too much Ryan Mathews risk. I need to see his combine #'s similar to Tomlinson or Aaron Jones or I am not buying.
On a side note, I would probably trade the #1 pick and my next year 3rd rd right now for the #6, #9, and that owners' next year 1st rd
On a side note, I would probably trade the #1 pick and my next year 3rd rd right now for the #6, #9, and that owners' next year 1st rd
sheerterror
Footballguy
This is considered a weak class, so I think it'd be tough to take that package before knowing how everyone else tests out and then where they land.
Jeanty is as much of a slam dunk to go 1.1 as MHjr was last year. This time last year, that package for the 2024 draft was a no brainer. This year, no so much at the moment imo.
What an oddly specific note.
Are you trying to convince a league mate to move off of the 1.01 pick for that exact package? As the owner of 1.01, zero chance I’m trading it for three mid/late 1s.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I'd have to consider moving pick 1 for 6/9 and a future 1st
eighsse2
Footballguy
I think he was referring to the above quote and making a modification to it that would make it palatable to him. It does seem very overly specific without the context though lol.
What an oddly specific note.
Are you trying to convince a league mate to move off of the 1.01 pick for that exact package? As the owner of 1.01, zero chance I’m trading it for three mid/late 1s.
Without hesitation.
Lance Zierliens I assume?
I'm a big fan Breece Hall's talent and think the depth at RB is a strength for the Jets. On top of that it's a deep RB class and a very high pick so the reasons it makes no sense are pretty easy to see and just mentioning this so when I try and offer a rational reason this could make sense I'm aware of these factors why it does not. I'm not trying to lay out a rational reason why I'd do this, I'm trying to determine why someone would think it's rational for the Jets do this.
For all of Hall's talents he's giving you a paltry 56.6 rushing yards a game since he returned from his ACL injury. Solid in the passing game but that rushing production is severely lacking. Complicating matters is he's on the last year of his deal, might even make some noise this off-season about playing on that last year. So not crazy if they concluded they likely let Breece walk next off-season, if not sooner, and that Allen and Davis look more like solid backups. This may seem like a bad use of assets to take a non-premium position which is not a need right now so high, and that may prove true, but in draft so many people are saying is light on blue chip players is the kind of draft I can see a team saying screw need/position value and let me have one of the few blue chip players in this thing.
I'd venture to guess what was factoring in this mock was that so much of the Jets staff just came over from Detroit where they had success taking Gibbs higher then anyone anticipated and enjoyed the success of his pairing with Montgomery despite the criticism they took for doing what the Jets would do in this mock, which is drafting non-premium position so high especially when it was not a need.
On that note, not sure it makes anything applicable since the old Jets regmie has left the bulding, but there are are some very credible reports the Jets were eyeing Gibbs at pick 15 two years ago.
rockaction
Footballguy
If the Jets pick Jeanty at seven, I'll spit.
The Jets apparently were eyeing Gibbs at fifteen two years ago, but Breece was coming off an ACL injury and wasn't going to be fully ready, which he wasn't. And his 56.6 rushing yards/game comes from a twelve/thirteen carry regimen per game, and he's only one year removed from full health. This was the year to judge him, and he averaged 4.3 or so behind that line.
The Jets apparently were eyeing Gibbs at fifteen two years ago, but Breece was coming off an ACL injury and wasn't going to be fully ready, which he wasn't. And his 56.6 rushing yards/game comes from a twelve/thirteen carry regimen per game, and he's only one year removed from full health. This was the year to judge him, and he averaged 4.3 or so behind that line.
There's been a lot of chatter about Breece Hall being on the trade block this offseason. Final year of his rookie deal, and the Jets seemingly not interested in signing long-term, though that could have just been the old regime, could also be Woody though.
Having said all that, even if Hall is traded, taking Jeanty at #7 would be wild. They aren't in a position to be taking a RB there. I would think, ideally, they'll want to get a player who can be a cornerstone of Aaron Glenn's defense.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
That would go down as one of the stupidest picks ever. They are not in a position of having a luxury pick, they need so much more.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Well, it won’t be Jeanty in any format.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It would not be surprising in the least if a QB goes #1 in super flex formats.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I disagree. I think the QBs are weak and that Jeanty will go 1.1 in most SF leagues this year.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Probably most..........but not all.
And as i said, I would not be shocked if come draft time in superflex, a QB becomes somewhat consensus #1.
It's very possible Jeanty's combine isnt "great", or he gets drafted in a less than ideal spot.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, I said most, not all. You may not be shocked if a QB becomes a consensus #1 overall, but I would. Again, this year Jeanty will be the consensus 1.01 regardless of format. Just my opinion.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If he tests well and is drafted somewhere without a roadblock, then he's for sure #1 in non SF and probably the #1 is like 80% of superflex leagues (more like 90-95% if he goes to an ideal spot).
However, if he tests "ok" and/or goes to say............Atlanta (which would be a special level of stupid for Atlanta)..... obviously outlooks can change based on the draft.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
There are always outliers you can factor into a discussion.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Id say if he tests well and goes to one of the more ideal spots, he'll be #1 in 99.9% of non SF leagues, and #1 in maybe 80-90% of SF leagues.
socrates
Footballguy
That is a fair point about a less-than-ideal draft destination for Ashton Jeanty. That is a very real possibility. I still think Jeanty goes 1.01 in pretty much every fantasy draft. This QB class does not offer a viable candidate to supplant him, regardless of how the Draft shakes out. If someone is going to challenge for the top spot, it may be one of the other RBs in this class with an ideal draft destination, but even that seems very unlikely.
At this point, I'm not sure Jeanty will benefit much from testing at the Combine. I would not be surprised at all if he weighs in and goes through the interviews, but declines to workout. It is more likely that if he is going to workout for scouts, it will be in the friendly confines of an on-campus Pro Day workout.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
after watching that Penn Bowl game, I did not see generational talent
JohnnyU
Footballguy
A game.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
A game where Penn completely dominated the line and were meeting Jeanty in the backfield with regularity stacking 8 in the box. Even still, he kept gaining 1 or 2 yards extra each play with his insane contact balance and lateral agility. The fumbles are a red flag, but correctable.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I was actually impressed with his running ability that game. He did not have a lot of open lanes but battled to get what was available. I personally would not mark him down a notch for that game alone, however I think it is more than fair to question his label of generational.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Maybe not generational, but in the past 7 years I would only rate Barkley and Bijan above him coming out of college.
Unwrittenlaw
Footballguy
Jonathan Taylor is better.
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