RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Solid day for Brown today. He was cooking early so what the heck happened? I thought he was in for an enormous day.
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RB Chase Brown, CIN (10 Viewers)
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
20 carries is certified workhorse status. Love it.
Browns run D is good, and Bengals OL is not.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
FBG downgrades Chase Brown after 23 touches and a TD. This makes no sense whatsoever.
I can see it if its just a full Bengals offense downgrade. Like OL concerns or something, but even then, I think it'd be a pretty small downgrade.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the downgrade comes from something Sigmund Bloom has been saying and it's happened to other teams in the past. The Bengals D is so bad that they can't get off the field and the Bengals' offensive players have fewer plays to score points and they're in worse situations, especially the running game because they're forced to pass more due to being behind. Add that to the problem that C. Brown wasn't efficient in his touches and you've got the downgrade.
In fact, I just looked and that's exactly what Sigmund listed as his reason (the defense).
I said (and this is only me) that 21 rushing attempts for 43 yards is not a great game. The touches are nice, but Brown was inefficient.
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ponchsox
Footballguy
Even in a game where the Bengals struggled to score, Brown found the end zone. We’ve seen this every year from Cincinnati. That offense will be firing in a few weeks. Brown will always have a high floor because of his passing game involvement. His outlook doesn’t change for me.
rockaction
Footballguy
By the way, I think the comment above by ponchsox is correct. I think the offense will come around and Chase Brown will be solid.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Brown rated about RB12-RB13 in preseason rankings. He’s going to be the top 1-2 starting RB on the vast majority of teams. What’s to downgrade here…??
The 33rd Team
Chase Brown may have had the most impressive game with less than 2 yards per carry we've ever seen
Per @NextGenStats, Brown had -43 rushing yards before contact, the lowest single-game mark in the NGS era — and finished the day with +43 yards on 21 attempts
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
And receptions. Considering he outscored Burrow by 5+ this week, I’ll take it.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
The 33rd Team
Chase Brown may have had the most impressive game with less than 2 yards per carry we've ever seen
Per @NextGenStats, Brown had -43 rushing yards before contact, the lowest single-game mark in the NGS era — and finished the day with +43 yards on 21 attempts
But but but he’s a downgrade.
Pure silliness.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Are you saying that as a positive or a negative? Because the Browns D is pretty good.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, MAC 32 was on it and I didn't disagree. Cleveland does not have a bad defense and actually kind of made the Bengals look terrible. The Bengals were extraordinarily lucky to come away with a W. Garrett's hit on Burrow summed up the day.
eta* No, wait, you clearly do mean Cleveland is tough. That's obvious if one follows the conversation temporally. Yeah, you're right. Chase will be fine.
eta* No, wait, you clearly do mean Cleveland is tough. That's obvious if one follows the conversation temporally. Yeah, you're right. Chase will be fine.
Agree. CLE D is pretty damn good.
Have a feeling that a JAX team that looked pretty mediocre against a terrible CAR D is going to get slammed by the Cinci offense this week.
rockaction
Footballguy
Man, you're probably right but Cincinnati all start slow. I think it doesn't matter if they played a few series in preseason; it takes them a while. We will see. I'd love a shootout. I have Ja'Marr Chase and Thomas.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
One of the biggest mistakes one could make right now is to panic on the CIN offense.
mereblitzianity
Footballguy
Brown isn't going to hold up with 20+ touches a week. I would love to be wrong, but I don't see it
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Thank goodness - that’s a tough defense.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
How many did he have a week last year after he became the featured RB?
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Lots of them. But he did end up hurt so there's that.
Looking at the game logs, a good reminder that things are not all they seem for the ROS.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In the last game IIRC, right? He held up pretty well, I’d say. Normal RB durability - perhaps better than average.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
People are still doubting Chase Brown?
He got hurt in the one of the last games of the year because he tried to stop before going into the endzone late in a game to try and run out the clock. That injury had nothing to do with overuse and was an absolute fluke. As long as he doesn't try and stop himself from scoring he should be fine.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Yeah look at all their skilled players (who are all studs) The Browns have a good D, its a rivalry game, no reason to worry about any of the Bengals studs IMO.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Crazy right?
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
We’re a long way off worrying about him averaging 20+ touches a game. Let’s check back around week ten after there are enough games in the books.
Worrying about C. Brown is pretty much last on my agenda right now.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Didn’t he get hurt trying not to score a TD to kill clock?
Lots of them. But he did end up hurt so there's that.
Looking at the game logs, a good reminder that things are not all they seem for the ROS.
ratbast
Footballguy
Yeah that’s my point.
cheese
Footballguy
He was a workhorse back throughout his college career. He led the big ten in carries in 2022. Every RB has durability concerns, but he would be high on my list of guys that can handle it if anyone can.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I don’t find concerns about his durability remotely compelling.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Scary bad rushing numbers.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
It's been a rough start against a tough Browns D and a game where Burrows went down, shifting the offense's script. I'm not ready to throw dirt of Brown's gave but it's not an inspiring start to the season.
Lack of targets is concerning.
Lack of targets is concerning.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Doesn't look like something in Browning's repertoire, and the one time they go to it, its there in a big way
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
He’s got 41 touches. Stay the course.
massraider
Footballguy
Are we sure that's a bad schedule? I mean GB is really the only one of those defenses that are actually shutting people down.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Minnesota and Denver don’t scare me
Banger
Footballguy
Massive hit
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I would hope they’d lean a little more I to the running game but what made Chase so valuable were all those Joe shallow throws. I was reading Browning doesn’t really take those often? Any truth?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Considering browning snipes goal line tds we are in major trouble and this guy is in the running for early round bust, and potentially losing time and snaps. I am a fan of his but no burrow is just brutal
