RB Chase Brown, CIN (6 Viewers)

[brewer]

I probably wouldn't be giving a first for Brown, but I won't be looking to trade him for anything less at this point either. I.E., I'm holding where I have him and probably not overpaying anywhere else.

 

[JohnnyU]

I probably wouldn't be giving a first for Brown, but I won't be looking to trade him for anything less at this point either. I.E., I'm holding where I have him and probably not overpaying anywhere else.

If I'm the owner of Brown I WOULD NOT be selling for a 2nd, so he's a hold like you said.

 

[menobrown]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

Totally agree, they were trying to get him ramped up sooner but the hamstring issue derailed him. In fact after I heard that I went and picked him up all over the place, redraft and dynasty and am currently holding him in 5/8 dynasty leagues.

I got offered 2.8 for him last week. Was an easy reject and I'm pretty deep at RB. I'm not looking to trade him on any of the teams I have him but it's all smaller roster leagues and I have some cuts coming up that are tough so I would be tempted with a very early second.

 

[MTskibum]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

 

[menobrown]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

 

[Big Nate]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

You said what I wanted to say better than I would have said it.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I do not doubt Chase will have a larger role, however he did not scream “feature back” when I saw him play. I would guess if he can progress in pass pro he could be a third down specialist and a 1B. He will most likely have another rookie to contend with added to the mix. I hope I am wrong and he succeeds my expectations as a stockholder. Of course most backfields are split now anyway so 1B would be a win.

 

[menobrown]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I don't get as caught up in the draft pedigree stuff as most. That matters in terms of giving them an opportunity, after that it's matters a little, but not a whole lot. But Zach Moss is not exactly highly pedigreed either, was a late third round pick but three teams ago, since then the Bills have to give up a 6th round pick and him to get Hines. His contract was not actually "he's anointed a starter" kind of money or lead back.

I fully expect a RBBC and it may look fuzzy some weeks who is the 1A/1B, but I absolutely don't view Brown as some kind of backup or handcuff.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

 

[eighsse2]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I have neither and I would rather have Brown.

 

[Big Nate]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

You are correct, no one (right now) is giving up a first for Moss either. I think most people will be cautious with this backfield until after the draft. Moss isn't a top talent but he's good enough to grind out the tough yards and run the offense. Right now if I had to guess is it would be a 60/40 (Moss/Brown) split.

But would it surprise me if CIN goes out and grabs one of the top RB talents in this draft? Nope. Then watch these guys stock drop. What if they grab one of the top RBs in the 2nd or 3rd round? Too much uncertainty right now in this backfield to feel comfortable paying draft picks for an RB.

 

[Big Nate]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I have neither and I would rather have Brown.

What draft pick/spot would you pay for Brown right now?

FWIW right now on KTC his equal value is 3.01 in SF rookie draft. I would say that is probably realistic for where we are at in the offseason.

 

[menobrown]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I despise comments that suggest people can't have a rationale take on someone because they do or don't own them.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I despise comments that suggest people can't have a rationale take on someone because they do or don't own them.

You don't think people have bias towards players they own? Every league I've ever played in has this bias and I admit my own bias, if you're impartial sure, but you're playing in a market not against yourself.


It doesn't matter how you think, it's how other people think.

 

[Big Nate]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I despise comments that suggest people can't have a rationale take on someone because they do or don't own them.

I didn't get that take from the comment. I think what he is saying is that owners of both may have a slightly skewed favor one way or another. (wrong or right). I think anyone can comment and speak about value or thoughts on a player.

 

[Da Franchise]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

No one is trading a 1st for Brown. Most aren’t selling for a 2nd. So he sits.

I’m just as excited to have him today as I was two days ago. He has juice. Is dirt cheap for 3 more seasons. Moss is fine but not special. He will get a shot at a decent workload. All of that adds up to a pretty good situation.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I have neither and I would rather have Brown.

What draft pick/spot would you pay for Brown right now?

FWIW right now on KTC his equal value is 3.01 in SF rookie draft. I would say that is probably realistic for where we are at in the offseason.

No way. He’s a hold in any league. I wouldn’t take a 2nd in a 1QB rookie draft. That would be a bad move IMO. Dynasty is a marathon, not a sprint. He’s probably more valuable than let’s say, what you would get at the 2.7 in a start 1QB rookie draft.

 

[menobrown]

I think what he is saying is that owners of both may have a slightly skewed favor one way or another. (

Yes, that's actually what I'm talking about and it's annoying to me to suggest that my takes or opinions are biased because of my ownership in a player.

 

[menobrown]

You don't think people have bias towards players they own? Every league I've ever played in has this bias and I admit my own bias, if you're impartial sure, but you're playing in a market not against yourself.

No, you don't speak for me.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

I think what he is saying is that owners of both may have a slightly skewed favor one way or another. (

Yes, that's actually what I'm talking about and it's annoying to me to suggest that my takes or opinions are biased because of my ownership in a player.

Mine definitely are. Maybe you're a better person than me. I'm human and suffer from a thing called bias unfortunately.

I'm not afraid to admit it. If Derrick Henry wasn't on me team, he's washed, but since he is on my team he's gonna be a RB1 this season.

 

[eighsse2]

I am still sitting on Chase Brown in a dynasty league. Hopefully i will get some sell high offers and i can move on from him. I think he is a jag if he could not win the job against a declining mixon.

I own him in 2/3 leagues. I said this a few months back, but with this news and the lack of top talent at RB in this draft, I think his value is probably an early 2nd atm (although I wouldn't trade him personally for less than a late 1st.) If he survives the draft/rest of FA without any meaningful additions, it can certainly ascend from there.

Also, he had a hamstring injury for the first few months of the season which is going to limit an explosive player's burst. Hardly a full knock on him for not being able to beat out
Mixon, whom Cincy has fed for years despite underwhelming efficiency.

If I put Brown up on the trade block I don't think anyone is giving me anything close to a late first right now. I do agree that we need to see what else happens in FA/draft but even then a 2nd round pick is at most what I could probably get and that is to the Moss owner. Most would see Moss as the starter (at least now) with Brown as a committee/change of pace.

I think you have to wait until during the season to get max value for Brown as he looks to be the back-up.

I took him at 2.10 and i agree he looks to be the backup. I think i would sell for early to mid 2nd.

The worry is they draft another RB, if cinci doesnt then i would hold.

I for one don't see him as the backup.

He was a late 5th round draft pick in the 2023 NFL draft - he can be replaced. No doubt he has upside and talent but they just signed Moss. Lots can and will happen between now and September when the season start.

I just don't see anyone giving up a first for an RB who is currently a back-up or at best in a split committee. I bet right now if I offered Brown I couldn't get an early second.

I thought about this further and I don't even think people would give up a 1st for Moss who I think is in line for the bulk of the carries, let alone for the 3rd down guy.


I think it's universal to everyone but Chase Brown owners that Zack Moss currently has more value? Or am I wrong on that?

I have neither and I would rather have Brown.

What draft pick/spot would you pay for Brown right now?

FWIW right now on KTC his equal value is 3.01 in SF rookie draft. I would say that is probably realistic for where we are at in the offseason.

Wow, well our league is RB-forward. The lineup of Q RR WW F K D makes them particularly scarce versus QB and WR (and obviously TE). That said, in this league, my value would be way higher than 3.01. There is a lot of uncertainty. But I would put the value, gun to my head, at 2.02. I have 1.11 and 2.04, and if I were offered Brown for the 2.04 I would click accept immediately. If for the 1.11, I'd counter with the 2.04, but if that was a no go, I'd be seriously thinking about 1.11.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

You don't think people have bias towards players they own? Every league I've ever played in has this bias and I admit my own bias, if you're impartial sure, but you're playing in a market not against yourself.

No, you don't speak for me.

So you are playing against yourself? Clear this up for me. Go ahead, speak for yourself.

 

[JohnnyU]

This isn’t going to end well. I feel a lot of hostility building in the room.

 

[menobrown]

You don't think people have bias towards players they own? Every league I've ever played in has this bias and I admit my own bias, if you're impartial sure, but you're playing in a market not against yourself.

No, you don't speak for me.

So you are playing against yourself? Clear this up for me. Go ahead, speak for yourself.

My opinions on players are formed based on what I think they will do, not my ownership. I hope that explains it for you, if not that will have to do.

 

[SuperFantasyFootballGuy]

You don't think people have bias towards players they own? Every league I've ever played in has this bias and I admit my own bias, if you're impartial sure, but you're playing in a market not against yourself.

No, you don't speak for me.

So you are playing against yourself? Clear this up for me. Go ahead, speak for yourself.

My opinions on players are formed based on what I think they will do, not my ownership. I hope that explains it for you, if not that will have to do.

Thank you for your thoughtful response.

 

[Big Nate]

So my comment about his value being the 3.01 in SF is "at this point in the offseason". If it just ends up Moss and Brown he will be worth more than that during the season - assuming he is getting 30-40% of the snaps minimum. At the end of last year he only hit 30% snap share once and the rest was around 15-20%. All of us who are holding him are hoping right now. Hoping he gets more touches and hoping they don't bring anyone else in or draft an RB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

For those that don't own him they see that they targeted Moss and brought him in to compete and maybe even be the lead guy. Chase could still do his thing if he ends up in a Tony Pollard type role (behind Zeke) where he maximizes his touches and can use his speed and big play ability. But for now Brown hasn't done anything in the NFL to prove he's the guy. Maybe he does (and I hope he does since I own him) but no one is paying a top 15 pick for "hope" when you can get a better prospect with higher NFL capital in this deep draft.

If I was offered an early 2nd (2.01-2.03) in this years SF rookie draft I would take it for Brown right now.

Summary: Brown could definitely be worth more come the season but I don't believe anyone will pay that price now. If you can get it I would take it.

 

[eighsse2]

So my comment about his value being the 3.01 in SF is "at this point in the offseason". If it just ends up Moss and Brown he will be worth more than that during the season - assuming he is getting 30-40% of the snaps minimum. At the end of last year he only hit 30% snap share once and the rest was around 15-20%. All of us who are holding him are hoping right now. Hoping he gets more touches and hoping they don't bring anyone else in or draft an RB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

For those that don't own him they see that they targeted Moss and brought him in to compete and maybe even be the lead guy. Chase could still do his thing if he ends up in a Tony Pollard type role (behind Zeke) where he maximizes his touches and can use his speed and big play ability. But for now Brown hasn't done anything in the NFL to prove he's the guy. Maybe he does (and I hope he does since I own him) but no one is paying a top 15 pick for "hope" when you can get a better prospect with higher NFL capital in this deep draft.

If I was offered an early 2nd (2.01-2.03) in this years SF rookie draft I would take it for Brown right now.

Summary: Brown could definitely be worth more come the season but I don't believe anyone will pay that price now. If you can get it I would take it.

Note: I didn't notice you said SF when I made my reply. I'm not good with adjusting for superflex, but I know that second quarterback does make RB less of a priority and makes lower picks like 3rd rounders more useful.

 

[menobrown]

Don't know if this helps anyone trade for him or trade him as one league dose not set a price but in a standard one QB FFPC league I turned down 2.8 for him over a week ago. Turns out that team has Zach Moss and some earlier seconds. I offered up Brown for 2.2 last night, he rejected and again offered the 2.8 which I easily passed on.

FWIW Chase Brown went 2.8 in this leagues rookie draft last year and late second/early third in most of my leagues, all one QB. The idea of giving him up for similar is a strange concept to me now that Mixon is gone,the job is wide open, and while it was a sample size to small to make any big conclusions on it's fair to point out that Chase had some outstanding efficiency numbers which is at least encouraging, he may not have done anything yet, but you can at least say he's done well with what he's got.

 

[Big Nate]

Don't know if this helps anyone trade for him or trade him as one league dose not set a price but in a standard one QB FFPC league I turned down 2.8 for him over a week ago. Turns out that team has Zach Moss and some earlier seconds. I offered up Brown for 2.2 last night, he rejected and again offered the 2.8 which I easily passed on.

FWIW Chase Brown went 2.8 in this leagues rookie draft last year and late second/early third in most of my leagues, all one QB. The idea of giving him up for similar is a strange concept to me now that Mixon is gone,the job is wide open, and while it was a sample size to small to make any big conclusions on it's fair to point out that Chase had some outstanding efficiency numbers which is at least encouraging, he may not have done anything yet, but you can at least say he's done well with what he's got.

I think this is very helpful, thanks for posting. Each league is different but worth the info for sure.

Some "analysts" will just flip a player for the same pick next year and just re-roll it. I'm with you in the fact that unless I can get a better pick/spot then I might as well just hold the asset and see if he becomes something where I can use him as a weekly starter in my roster or eventually flip him for more when his value goes up.

I wouldn't just flip him for equal value right now either.

 

[Big Nate]

/bump

Looks like Brown comes out a winner after the draft. It will likely be a Moss/Brown timeshare. Now what does that look like?

Realistically what is a fair offer for Brown. A deal someone would actually trade for. Early/mid 2024 2nd? There are some juicy players available early 2nd round right now. If you were a team stacked at RB and could use a young WR or QB (Nix/Penix) would you trade for say 2.03 or 2.04? Get one of the WRs or QBs that fall?

What is everyone doing with Brown now?

 

[Faust]

Ben Cummins
The Chase Brown/Zack Moss combo is an exciting upgrade over Joe Mixon. Brown and Moss compliment each other well. Year 2 Brown

x.com

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[zamboni]

Ben Cummins
The Chase Brown/Zack Moss combo is an exciting upgrade over Joe Mixon. Brown and Moss compliment each other well. Year 2 Brown

x.com

x.com

Really have this feeling that Brown is going to blow up this year when Moss turns back into a pumpkin.

 

[menobrown]

/bump

Looks like Brown comes out a winner after the draft. It will likely be a Moss/Brown timeshare. Now what does that look like?

Realistically what is a fair offer for Brown. A deal someone would actually trade for. Early/mid 2024 2nd? There are some juicy players available early 2nd round right now. If you were a team stacked at RB and could use a young WR or QB (Nix/Penix) would you trade for say 2.03 or 2.04? Get one of the WRs or QBs that fall?

What is everyone doing with Brown now?

Simple way I look at this sometimes is where would I value a player if they were dropped into the player pool.

For me Brown would be RB3, slot in somewhere in the overall player 11-12 range.

This should not be considered a wild take for my leagues. I did not draft him at all last year but picked him up in 4 leagues. Looked at them during the off-season and in all but one of those leagues he went between 2.4-2.6 so a little bump in his value after all that has transpired and him looking pretty decent with his chances should be expected.

 

[titusbramble]

I think I'm going to hold, then probably look to deal to the most RB-needy contender in the event he does blow up. Don't feel like there's been enough of an adjustment yet to the relatively unmodified state of the Bengals dressing room, so will wait for Moss to hopefully regress to the mean, then cash in

 

[zamboni]

Just an FYI as many view Brown as a change of pace guy - he carried the ball 328 times in his senior year at Illinois, plus 27 receptions.

 

[Big Nate]

I think I'm going to hold, then probably look to deal to the most RB-needy contender in the event he does blow up. Don't feel like there's been enough of an adjustment yet to the relatively unmodified state of the Bengals dressing room, so will wait for Moss to hopefully regress to the mean, then cash in

I think the move to get max value if you look to trade is hold and then sell before the season when a team is in need of an RB or early in the season after a good game from Brown.

Having said that though, say a team has a need and wants to get into the 2024 draft? What is a fair deal for Brown? I don't see anyone giving up a first for Brown so somewhere early to mid second?

Way to much value in the 2024 first (even late) right now. Maybe a 2nd would work. Pre-draft I had Browns value at 3.01, now I would say that moved up nearly a round - would anyone pay that?

 

[sheerterror]

I think I'm going to hold, then probably look to deal to the most RB-needy contender in the event he does blow up. Don't feel like there's been enough of an adjustment yet to the relatively unmodified state of the Bengals dressing room, so will wait for Moss to hopefully regress to the mean, then cash in

I think the move to get max value if you look to trade is hold and then sell before the season when a team is in need of an RB or early in the season after a good game from Brown.

Having said that though, say a team has a need and wants to get into the 2024 draft? What is a fair deal for Brown? I don't see anyone giving up a first for Brown so somewhere early to mid second?

Way to much value in the 2024 first (even late) right now. Maybe a 2nd would work. Pre-draft I had Browns value at 3.01, now I would say that moved up nearly a round - would anyone pay that?

I own him in 2 leagues, and am considering making an offer for 2.4 in the league I don't have him in. Having said that, I wouldn't sell him for 2.4 in the other leagues.

 

[travdogg]

Just an FYI as many view Brown as a change of pace guy - he carried the ball 328 times in his senior year at Illinois, plus 27 receptions.

To put that in perspective, that was the biggest workload in all of college football in 2022.

Of course, the 3rd biggest workload belonged to Deuce Vaughn, so its somewhat debatable how predictive that can be. Probably should echo as well that Devon Achane averaged 23 touches a game that year, and people seem to have boxed him into being a 12-13 touch guy for no good reason.

Back to the point, the draft couldn't have gone better for Chase Brown. I think he's an RB3 at the moment, and probably the better value play on Cincinnati. Having said that, I think Joe Mixon is a lot better RB than his numbers showed. I'm not sure there is going to be a particularly good running game.

 

[zamboni]

Just an FYI as many view Brown as a change of pace guy - he carried the ball 328 times in his senior year at Illinois, plus 27 receptions.

To put that in perspective, that was the biggest workload in all of college football in 2022.

Of course, the 3rd biggest workload belonged to Deuce Vaughn, so its somewhat debatable how predictive that can be. Probably should echo as well that Devon Achane averaged 23 touches a game that year, and people seem to have boxed him into being a 12-13 touch guy for no good reason.

Back to the point, the draft couldn't have gone better for Chase Brown. I think he's an RB3 at the moment, and probably the better value play on Cincinnati. Having said that, I think Joe Mixon is a lot better RB than his numbers showed. I'm not sure there is going to be a particularly good running game.

If they do struggle running the ball, that could benefit Brown vis-a-vis Moss even more as an asset in the passing game.

 

[satch]

Ben Cummins
The Chase Brown/Zack Moss combo is an exciting upgrade over Joe Mixon. Brown and Moss compliment each other well. Year 2 Brown

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Really have this feeling that Brown is going to blow up this year when Moss turns back into a pumpkin.

I have the opposite feeling, that Moss is going to be a consistent fantasy producer while frustrated Brown owners complain that he looks more explosive and doesn’t get enough work.

 

[Blick]

Ben Cummins
The Chase Brown/Zack Moss combo is an exciting upgrade over Joe Mixon. Brown and Moss compliment each other well. Year 2 Brown

x.com

x.com

Really have this feeling that Brown is going to blow up this year when Moss turns back into a pumpkin.

I have the opposite feeling, that Moss is going to be a consistent fantasy producer while frustrated Brown owners complain that he looks more explosive and doesn’t get enough work.

I have a third feeling where this turns into last year's Steeler backfield and the work is split down the middle leading to both guys being no more than consistent flex plays.

 

[titusbramble]

I think I'm going to hold, then probably look to deal to the most RB-needy contender in the event he does blow up. Don't feel like there's been enough of an adjustment yet to the relatively unmodified state of the Bengals dressing room, so will wait for Moss to hopefully regress to the mean, then cash in

I think the move to get max value if you look to trade is hold and then sell before the season when a team is in need of an RB or early in the season after a good game from Brown.

Having said that though, say a team has a need and wants to get into the 2024 draft? What is a fair deal for Brown? I don't see anyone giving up a first for Brown so somewhere early to mid second?

Way to much value in the 2024 first (even late) right now. Maybe a 2nd would work. Pre-draft I had Browns value at 3.01, now I would say that moved up nearly a round - would anyone pay that?

I own him in 2 leagues, and am considering making an offer for 2.4 in the league I don't have him in. Having said that, I wouldn't sell him for 2.4 in the other leagues.

I don't think any back I could get at 16, regardless of format, is in anything like as good a situation as Brown is in the short-medium term

 

[Big Nate]

Ben Cummins
The Chase Brown/Zack Moss combo is an exciting upgrade over Joe Mixon. Brown and Moss compliment each other well. Year 2 Brown

x.com

x.com

Really have this feeling that Brown is going to blow up this year when Moss turns back into a pumpkin.

I have the opposite feeling, that Moss is going to be a consistent fantasy producer while frustrated Brown owners complain that he looks more explosive and doesn’t get enough work.

I have a third feeling where this turns into last year's Steeler backfield and the work is split down the middle leading to both guys being no more than consistent flex plays.

Could very well be true. As a Brown owner I believe Moss is their lead back for now. It will be a split to start the season, maybe even 60/40 in Moss' favor. We will see if Brown can take over some of the early down work.

 

[Faust]

The Coachspeak Index
#Bengals HC Zac Taylor on Chase Brown:

“The more downs you can put yourself on the field, the better, and he’s really worked hard to do that. It’s noticeable, and that’s a real positive.”

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[jm192]

I'll be drafting him.

I think the Cincinnati offense bounces back in a big way. I think it's a committee where Moss is the leader. But Brown should see touches. And if anything happens to Moss, Brown to the moon.
He's a very cheap way to get a piece of a potentially elite offense.

Again, I envision Moss as the leader of the committee. But if you're a Brown owner, Zack Moss isn't the most fearsome back for your guy to have to overcome to take a lead back role.

I've currently got him at RB37 (Moss at 27). Fantasypros has him at 40, FBG has him at 42. The upside for that range is nice. If you miss completely at RB37-42, oh well.

 

[Ray_T]

I'll be drafting him.

I think the Cincinnati offense bounces back in a big way. I think it's a committee where Moss is the leader. But Brown should see touches. And if anything happens to Moss, Brown to the moon.
He's a very cheap way to get a piece of a potentially elite offense.

Again, I envision Moss as the leader of the committee. But if you're a Brown owner, Zack Moss isn't the most fearsome back for your guy to have to overcome to take a lead back role.

I've currently got him at RB37 (Moss at 27). Fantasypros has him at 40, FBG has him at 42. The upside for that range is nice. If you miss completely at RB37-42, oh well.

the cincy offense cant possibly be worse than it was last year. the line was hurt or ineffective, and ditto for the QB. likely the two issues were related.

they grabbed Mims, one of the better OT in the class. if hes an immediate impact(plug and play) player, this line is that much better immediately. The run game will be better and Burrow wont get beat up in the pocket due to lackluster protection.

nearly all the problems there began and ended with the line deficiencies. this draft at least gets part of this turned around (assuming the player is as good as I think he can be)

 

[JohnnyU]

Zack Moss is fools gold. People are looking at a few game stretch last year replacing Jonathan Taylor instead of his entire body of work. Chase Brown is the back to have IMO.

 

[barackdhouse]

Zack Moss is fools gold. People are looking at a few game stretch last year replacing Jonathan Taylor instead of his entire body of work. Chase Brown is the back to have IMO.

100%

 

[barackdhouse]

One of the most undervalued RBs in all of FF right now. I'm not saying he is the second coming but he will get FF points. Going several rounds late. Now about to copy and past these exact words into the Chase Brown Jerome Ford thread as well.