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RB Dalvin Cook, DAL (3 Viewers)

Jets need to give him a full year for recovery.
But you're a baker not a doctor, em.

That's the second time you seemed to have gone after me. I will bake u 8 cookies, one for each tentacle to be my friend
Sorry, I honestly was just making a joke based on your name. Truth is the Jets doctors would not put him at harm even if they were going all in. The front office would probably sign Cook or Hunt if Hall wasn’t going to play this year.
 
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From what I hear (nothing anyone else doesn’t have access to) Hall will be ready for week 1. I expect a few weeks where he doesn’t see a heavy workload but I don’t think they need to sign a veteran and waste cap since Carter, Knight and the Pitt rookie are good enough to move the offense.
 
Javonte avoided it. Just sayin.
Say whatever you want. I'm starting to figure out it's generally not worth having any real discussions with you anyhow. Good luck this season.

Also heard a lot of chatter on Sirius XM over the weekend that Hall will NOT be ready for week 1.

I'm sure you did. You seem to hear and see what you want to hear and see.

Since this post, Javonte took the first handoff in 11-on-11 drills, Hall is still on the PUP list, the coach has stated they will not rush him and Cook is scheduled to visit the Jets.

Between this and our different view on the impact Charbs will have on Walker, we will have to agree to disagree.
 
NY Post this morning. Rodgers agreed to a re-worked contract yesterday that freed up money for 2023.

Dalvin Cook visiting Jets in possible free-agency steal

Those Aaron Rodgers contract savings could be put to quick use.

Dalvin Cook is flying to New York to visit the Jets this weekend, The Post’s Brian Costello confirmed.

Cook, 27, was released by the Vikings this offseason and has yet to find a new team, despite running for over 1,000 yards the past four seasons.

The Jets will likely open the season without starter Breece Hall, who tore his ACL in October.

Cook has also received interest from the Dolphins and Patriots, according to reports.
 
From CBS Sports:
However, Cook isn't willing to accept his hometown Miami Dolphins' current contract offer -- though he does have interest in joining the Dolphins -- and doesn't see an urgency to sign with a team right now, according to an ESPN report . Now, Cook is flying out to New York for a weekend visit with the Jets, according to CBS Sports NFL Insider Jonathan Jones . Following quarterback Aaron Rodgers' pay cut that he took on Wednesday, the Jets now have nearly $16 million in cap space ($15,981,274 million to be exact per OverTheCap.com ). That should provide Gang Green plenty of room to offer Cook a deal with the financial terms he is looking for. There's certainly a need on the Jets' end given that dynamic second-year running back Breece Hall is beginning training camp on the PUP list after tearing his ACL in Week 7 last season.
 
Now why would Rodgers agree to restructure his contract to make room for Cook who is supposedly so poor in pass protection according to pff I wonder?
 
Hall is still on the PUP list, the coach has stated they will not rush him and Cook is scheduled to visit the Jets.
Reading the tea leaves with the Jets media, there's speculation Hall may not come off the PUP till later in training camp. Signing Cook now before he can sign with MIA or NE would be some insurance. Could be why Rodgers agreed to free up some cap space. Again, pure speculation.
 
Fowler reported this morning that NE is engaged in talks with him to set up a visit.

That was a good leak by his team to get out the Jet's visit and them being close on a contract.
 
I feel about cook kind of the way I feel about LIlliard to miami. Sure, at our price.
Lillard and his agent have cornered the Blazers into only 1 option
At the same time, he's 33 and they had to know this day was coming over the last several years so i kind of don't feel bad that they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them.

I would prefer Dalvin Cook were signed by Miami since he would sit at the top of chart, nobody on the team can do what he does...where as Buffalo and the Jets each have a young rising star at RB, Miami might have something with Achane but we won't know that until the season starts. I'd love for him to ease into things with Cook in front of him vs the collection Miami has on its roster right now.

Sounds like Cook is going to sign with someone that Miami is going to feel the impact like the NY Jets.
Be a shame to watch him go to New York but Miami made him an offer weeks ago and he didn't take it.
 
Hall must be a long long way off if they want Cook. Maybe Hall starts season on the PUP list? Cook, Hall, Carter, Izzy, Z man, seems like a lot of RBs, even after they cut one.

Did the report say he was fling to NY or NYC?
 
Hall is still on the PUP list, the coach has stated they will not rush him and Cook is scheduled to visit the Jets.
Reading the tea leaves with the Jets media, there's speculation Hall may not come off the PUP till later in training camp. Signing Cook now before he can sign with MIA or NE would be some insurance. Could be why Rodgers agreed to free up some cap space. Again, pure speculation.
No need to convince me. I stated there was smoke weeks ago.
 
Hall must be a long long way off if they want Cook. Maybe Hall starts season on the PUP list? Cook, Hall, Carter, Izzy, Z man, seems like a lot of RBs, even after they cut one.

Did the report say he was fling to NY or NYC?
I don’t know if it means long way off. The team has SB ambitions.
Also along those lines, some of this decision might have to do with where Cook feels like he’s got a better chance at a ring.

Cook is certainly familiar with ARod from playing against the Packers during his Vikings tenure.

Maybe he’s concerned about Miami being a legitimate contender. Tua’s concussions could be a concern as well.

As a Hall shareholder I wouldn’t be thrilled, but I’m also not really concerned about Cook long term.
 
they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them

Leave it. They are not making that trade.
What are the options?
I feel like Lillard and his agent backed the team into a corner where nobody is going to make an offer for a player who ONLY wants to be traded to 1 team.
I find it fascinating that nothing better than Tyler Herro has been presented to them.
Not sure why so many are down on Herro, he's young and scores 20 points a game, not exactly common on every NBA roster.

Sorry for the hi-jack everyone, let me give back the controls to the tower

Looks like Miami might have sustained a major injury on their Defense today-Ramsey, early reports not promising.
 
they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them

Leave it. They are not making that trade.
What are the options?
I feel like Lillard and his agent backed the team into a corner where nobody is going to make an offer for a player who ONLY wants to be traded to 1 team.
I find it fascinating that nothing better than Tyler Herro has been presented to them.
Not sure why so many are down on Herro, he's young and scores 20 points a game, not exactly common on every NBA roster.

Sorry for the hi-jack everyone, let me give back the controls to the tower

Looks like Miami might have sustained a major injury on their Defense today-Ramsey, early reports not promising.
Herro and garbage picks are not in the realm of Lillard lol. Herro is a traffic cone on defense. Lillard is as well but at least he can go nuclear on offense
 
What are the options?
Don't make a trade at all? If Lillard has a hissy fit and refuses to return to play in Portland, he'd lose like $500K+ per game. They aren't interested in Herro because he is redundant to the guys they already have on the roster (and is not in the same class as Dame). Lillard was ranked 8th in in the league in player efficiency last year (Top 10 in 4 of the past 5 seasons), while Herro was ranked 96th. Lillard had a net rating per 100 possessions of +5 points (with a career best of +11) while Herro was at -6. Sure, Herro scored 20 points a game but didn't do much else. As already mentioned, if the Heat say take it or leave it, then leave it. The Blazers shouldn't just give away a guy that has made 7 All NBA teams.
 
they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them

Leave it. They are not making that trade.
What are the options?
I feel like Lillard and his agent backed the team into a corner where nobody is going to make an offer for a player who ONLY wants to be traded to 1 team.
I find it fascinating that nothing better than Tyler Herro has been presented to them.
Not sure why so many are down on Herro, he's young and scores 20 points a game, not exactly common on every NBA roster.

Sorry for the hi-jack everyone, let me give back the controls to the tower

Looks like Miami might have sustained a major injury on their Defense today-Ramsey, early reports not promising.
Herro and garbage picks are not in the realm of Lillard lol. Herro is a traffic cone on defense. Lillard is as well but at least he can go nuclear on offense

What are the options?
Don't make a trade at all? If Lillard has a hissy fit and refuses to return to play in Portland, he'd lose like $500K+ per game. They aren't interested in Herro because he is redundant to the guys they already have on the roster (and is not in the same class as Dame). Lillard was ranked 8th in in the league in player efficiency last year (Top 10 in 4 of the past 5 seasons), while Herro was ranked 96th. Lillard had a net rating per 100 possessions of +5 points (with a career best of +11) while Herro was at -6. Sure, Herro scored 20 points a game but didn't do much else. As already mentioned, if the Heat say take it or leave it, then leave it. The Blazers shouldn't just give away a guy that has made 7 All NBA teams.
-This isn't fantasy football, trades are rarely even in the NBA, what did Miami ever give up to have the teams they've had in the past?

Usually not much, especially when you have Pat Riley, The Godfather as he is typically referred to around here.

-And we all know that appearances and how teams treat players impacts future players they can obtain in the NBA...not sure the Trailblazers are going to land a lot of future stars if they don't take care of this situation properly. They've gotten away with not bringing in much help for Lillard for a long time now and he's 33 yrs old and want an opportunity to go somewhere else, he's been a good soldier for them and hasn't experienced a lot of success there.

Getting back to football...as Cook continues his tour of the AFC East, maybe Miami is sending him to each place before they up their offer to him, again the Miami Dolphins already made an offer to Cook, the Jets, Bills and Pats along with other interested teams must know how much Miami offered him. Isn't $500k more or over enough to entice him to sign with one of those 3 teams? It just doesn't seem that hard to figure out a number and settle on that.
 
The New York Jets.
The Buffalo Bills
The New England Patriots
The Miami Dolphins

Which of these 4 teams would Dalvin Cook experience the most success or have the biggest impact in terms of Fantasy Football for those that might think about drafting him soon?
Anyone want to take a shot at that?
 
How about a two-way contract for Cooks split between the Dolphins and Heat?

Isn't $500k more or over enough to entice him to sign with one of those 3 teams?
Except we could be talking huge differences in offers. One team could be offering multiple years, another could be offering more guaranteed money, and a third could be offering a ton of incentives. On top of that, they could be a difference of millions between the contracts . . . and still not the amount that would interest Cook.
 
they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them

Leave it. They are not making that trade.
What are the options?
I feel like Lillard and his agent backed the team into a corner where nobody is going to make an offer for a player who ONLY wants to be traded to 1 team.
I find it fascinating that nothing better than Tyler Herro has been presented to them.
Not sure why so many are down on Herro, he's young and scores 20 points a game, not exactly common on every NBA roster.

Sorry for the hi-jack everyone, let me give back the controls to the tower

Looks like Miami might have sustained a major injury on their Defense today-Ramsey, early reports not promising.
1) not seeing anything anywhere calling it "serious"
2) thats why you draft a CB when you already have great corners
3) Dalvin is a great back, as is Elliott, but Unless he plays guard too, not sure how much he helps what McDaniel is trying to do on offense.
 
The New York Jets.
The Buffalo Bills
The New England Patriots
The Miami Dolphins

Which of these 4 teams would Dalvin Cook experience the most success or have the biggest impact in terms of Fantasy Football for those that might think about drafting him soon?
Anyone want to take a shot at that?
Miami has the most ambiguous RB situation (Mostert/Wilson/Achane) so in theory Cook could beat out all of them for carries. But McDaniel loves his ex-49er RB's and hand picked Achane in the draft. If the Dolphins were to trade Mostert or Wilson to make room then I think it would be the best spot for Cook.
 
they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them

Leave it. They are not making that trade.
What are the options?
I feel like Lillard and his agent backed the team into a corner where nobody is going to make an offer for a player who ONLY wants to be traded to 1 team.
I find it fascinating that nothing better than Tyler Herro has been presented to them.
Not sure why so many are down on Herro, he's young and scores 20 points a game, not exactly common on every NBA roster.

Sorry for the hi-jack everyone, let me give back the controls to the tower

Looks like Miami might have sustained a major injury on their Defense today-Ramsey, early reports not promising.
1) not seeing anything anywhere calling it "serious"
2) thats why you draft a CB when you already have great corners
3) Dalvin is a great back, as is Elliott, but Unless he plays guard too, not sure how much he helps what McDaniel is trying to do on offense.
I’m not sure I would still call Elliott a great back. He has more miles than do the ladies in the Las Vegas dessert.
 
The Bills. Why? They just lost Nyheim Hines for the season so Dalvin would be the starter come Week 1. Besides, it would give him a chance to play with his brother James.
The Bills seem pretty fine with the Cook they already have, and Damien Harris is a solid RB2. I don't see a reason for them to sign Dalvin.
 
CBS says "If Cook lands in New York, he would be the No. 1 running back the whole season. Hall would have plenty of time to get to 100% and become one of the most dynamic No. 2 backs in the game. The Jets would have a dominant 1-2 punch with Cook and Hall. "
 
CBS says "If Cook lands in New York, he would be the No. 1 running back the whole season. Hall would have plenty of time to get to 100% and become one of the most dynamic No. 2 backs in the game. The Jets would have a dominant 1-2 punch with Cook and Hall. "
I just threw up in my mouth just a little.
 
The New York Jets.
The Buffalo Bills
The New England Patriots
The Miami Dolphins

Which of these 4 teams would Dalvin Cook experience the most success or have the biggest impact in terms of Fantasy Football for those that might think about drafting him soon?
Anyone want to take a shot at that?
Miami has the most ambiguous RB situation (Mostert/Wilson/Achane) so in theory Cook could beat out all of them for carries. But McDaniel loves his ex-49er RB's and hand picked Achane in the draft. If the Dolphins were to trade Mostert or Wilson to make room then I think it would be the best spot for Cook.
I agree. Dolphins make the most sense.
 
CBS says "If Cook lands in New York, he would be the No. 1 running back the whole season. Hall would have plenty of time to get to 100% and become one of the most dynamic No. 2 backs in the game. The Jets would have a dominant 1-2 punch with Cook and Hall. "
Yeah I'm sure dalvin cooked would keep the job when hall is fully healthy. Lol.
 
Geting us back on track, if I'm the Jets I run Dalvin cook into the ground until Breece is truly 100%...and then ride Breece Hall straight through the AFC playoffs.

Makes too much sense.
 
I seriously see why the Jets would sign Cook, and it infuriates me as a Hall GM. Why wouldn't you want to be as deep as you can at every position you can?

That said, aren't there guys available along the OL that would help the Jets more than Cook would at RB? Becton is apparently getting torched already in camp, the Jets don't have much of a line to speak of, and I can't shake the feeling there are available guys that would make the OL room better than Dalvin would improve upon their RB room.

Just two cents and a thought from a Jets fan.
 
I feel about cook kind of the way I feel about LIlliard to miami. Sure, at our price.
Lillard and his agent have cornered the Blazers into only 1 option
At the same time, he's 33 and they had to know this day was coming over the last several years so i kind of don't feel bad that they are down to Tyler Herro, pretty much take it or leave it is what the Heat have told them.

I would prefer Dalvin Cook were signed by Miami since he would sit at the top of chart, nobody on the team can do what he does...where as Buffalo and the Jets each have a young rising star at RB, Miami might have something with Achane but we won't know that until the season starts. I'd love for him to ease into things with Cook in front of him vs the collection Miami has on its roster right now.

Sounds like Cook is going to sign with someone that Miami is going to feel the impact like the NY Jets.
Be a shame to watch him go to New York but Miami made him an offer weeks ago and he didn't take it.

As someone whom Achane grew on considerably and drafted him all over the place, I completely agree. Getting Cook would make one of Wilson/Mostert expendable and the other will get hurt in 5 seconds. Versus both getting hurt in 5 seconds and forcing Achane to carry a load he is totally unequipped for.

Keep my Ferrari clean, please. Let Dalvin drive to the store and let my dude hit the racetrack.
 
I seriously see why the Jets would sign Cook, and it infuriates me as a Hall GM. Why wouldn't you want to be as deep as you can at every position you can?

That said, aren't there guys available along the OL that would help the Jets more than Cook would at RB? Becton is apparently getting torched already in camp, the Jets don't have much of a line to speak of, and I can't shake the feeling there are available guys that would make the OL room better than Dalvin would improve upon their RB room.

Just two cents and a thought from a Jets fan.
I don’t really think they should sign Cook either but not sure there’s any good o-linemen still left in free agency.
 
I seriously see why the Jets would sign Cook, and it infuriates me as a Hall GM. Why wouldn't you want to be as deep as you can at every position you can?

That said, aren't there guys available along the OL that would help the Jets more than Cook would at RB? Becton is apparently getting torched already in camp, the Jets don't have much of a line to speak of, and I can't shake the feeling there are available guys that would make the OL room better than Dalvin would improve upon their RB room.

Just two cents and a thought from a Jets fan.
Maybe the Jets are going after D Cook just to keep him away from other Division foes? Cook benefits Miami more but NYJ could hinder Miami by taking him off the FA Market.

Yes, I agree, Jets have OL issues that should be a higher priority, but who is available in the Market ??
32 yo Taylor Lewan or 41 yo Jason Peters? The average age of available OL FA = 32.5 for the Top 15... maybe it's a case of what has the most impact?
 
CBS says "If Cook lands in New York, he would be the No. 1 running back the whole season. Hall would have plenty of time to get to 100% and become one of the most dynamic No. 2 backs in the game. The Jets would have a dominant 1-2 punch with Cook and Hall. "
I just threw up in my mouth just a little.
That’s CBS saying that not the Jets.
CBS is a pretty bad source for predictions and futures. I had to stop looking at that site or listening to their pods after a disasterous season last year going off their info.
 

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