RB De’Von Achane, MIA (2 Viewers)

[jm192]

I think a lot of the handcuffing argument comes down to league and roster size.

If it's a smaller league or the benches are short--it's harder to justify holding handcuffs.

In bigger/deeper leagues, most of the backup RB's are rostered. Heck, in medium sized leagues, a fair amount of backups are rostered.

I feel like some people are talking with this "either/or" tone. Someone said I can take 4 RB's I like or 2 RB's I like and 2 handcuffs. In a lot of leagues, I'm taking the RB's I like, and then I'm filling out the bench with backup RB's that have really high upside in the event of an injury.

I don't necessarily prioritize my own RB's backup over someone else's. How good is the backup? What has the backup done in previous opportunities? How often does the starter get hurt?

People have mentioned Charbonnet: I would argue whether you do or do not have Walker--Charbonnet is a great handcuff target. Arguably the best one.

 

[bluemanfoo]

Sorry, but I can’t see a world where Wright is usable without an injury. Even if the same is true about Charbs, there is no indication of Wright being better than Charbs.

Charbs has proven to have production when Walker was out, so I would say most would value him more than Wright.

I just believe handcuffing is a bad use of roster spots and in Charbs case, bad use of draft capital on top of it.

In most cases, it can be. In the case of Walker / Charbonnet, it is not. First of all, you can get Walker later than he should go due to injury concerns.
Second, Charbonnet is worth his ADP. He is an instant RB1 if Walker were to miss time.

I LOVE handcuffing RB's when there is a clear RB1 and a backup who has the ability to produce RB1 numbers if needed.

Outside of Seattle, the only team that comes close is Atlanta in my opinion.

I'd much rather draft three or four RBs I love rather than draft two RBs I love and their handcuffs. In the former build, I've often had three good to great RBs. If one gets hurts or one just flat out disappoints, usually I've been ok to still firing on all cylinders. In the latter strategy, I'll have at most two starting RBs in any given week. And if one of those rushing offenses stinks, I've doubled my pain, and have no "outs". Handcuffing is a terrible strategy IMO.

Who said two? If you draft four total RB's and one happens to be Walker, Charbonnet is a must. Then you draft an RB2 and RB3 like you normally would.

Drafting two RB's and two handcuffs is not at all what I suggested.

Charbs a must? Not even close to a must in my mind. I'd much much much rather roster a third option that has weekly upside, and I 'd rather use that ninth round pick on my first QB or TE.

If you own Walker, Charbonnet is a must.

Nope. I'd much rather shoot for guys with weekly upside. In my first league, sizable chance Walker or Achane get hurt, yet I'd still rather pin my chances on RJ Harvey stepping up by then. Because if RJ Harvey emerges, he not just steps in when one of my primary RBs gets hurt, I can also start him in flex. I don't shy away from talented RBs with the injury prone label and, it's odd to many, but I don't handcuff. For example, in 2019, I took Saquon, Aaron Jones, Fournette with my first three picks. All talented but all considered injury prone. Saquon battled a high ankle sprain most of the season and was a bust. Aaron Jones had the best season his career, finishing RB2 overall. Fournette was great at his 3rd round ADP and finished around RB7 overall. Despite Saquon busting at #1 overall, that was my most dominant team ever. Yeah, my Lamar/Andrews stack had a lot to do with the dominance, but I was fully committed in 2019 to swinging for upside (totally reaching for Lamar in round 7 and Andrews in round 10), and not burning any picks nor roster spots on low upside options nor handcuffs. I've only ever won by being aggressive, and when I make a conservative pick, I usually regret it later.

 

[candian fantasy guy]

I feel like I started this handcuff strategy, conversation, but it was from a dynasty angle and not redraft. I rarely try to get handcuffs in redraft, only if it lines up that way. I won’t overdraft someone due to a guy being a handcuff of my starting RB’s.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Sorry, but I can’t see a world where Wright is usable without an injury. Even if the same is true about Charbs, there is no indication of Wright being better than Charbs.

Charbs has proven to have production when Walker was out, so I would say most would value him more than Wright.

I just believe handcuffing is a bad use of roster spots and in Charbs case, bad use of draft capital on top of it.

In most cases, it can be. In the case of Walker / Charbonnet, it is not. First of all, you can get Walker later than he should go due to injury concerns.
Second, Charbonnet is worth his ADP. He is an instant RB1 if Walker were to miss time.

I LOVE handcuffing RB's when there is a clear RB1 and a backup who has the ability to produce RB1 numbers if needed.

Outside of Seattle, the only team that comes close is Atlanta in my opinion.

I'd much rather draft three or four RBs I love rather than draft two RBs I love and their handcuffs. In the former build, I've often had three good to great RBs. If one gets hurts or one just flat out disappoints, usually I've been ok to still firing on all cylinders. In the latter strategy, I'll have at most two starting RBs in any given week. And if one of those rushing offenses stinks, I've doubled my pain, and have no "outs". Handcuffing is a terrible strategy IMO.

Who said two? If you draft four total RB's and one happens to be Walker, Charbonnet is a must. Then you draft an RB2 and RB3 like you normally would.

Drafting two RB's and two handcuffs is not at all what I suggested.

Charbs a must? Not even close to a must in my mind. I'd much much much rather roster a third option that has weekly upside, and I 'd rather use that ninth round pick on my first QB or TE.

If you own Walker, Charbonnet is a must.

Nope. I'd much rather shoot for guys with weekly upside. In my first league, sizable chance Walker or Achane get hurt, yet I'd still rather pin my chances on RJ Harvey stepping up by then. Because if RJ Harvey emerges, he not just steps in when one of my primary RBs gets hurt, I can also start him in flex. I don't shy away from talented RBs with the injury prone label and, it's odd to many, but I don't handcuff. For example, in 2019, I took Saquon, Aaron Jones, Fournette with my first three picks. All talented but all considered injury prone. Saquon battled a high ankle sprain most of the season and was a bust. Aaron Jones had the best season his career, finishing RB2 overall. Fournette was great at his 3rd round ADP and finished around RB7 overall. Despite Saquon busting at #1 overall, that was my most dominant team ever. Yeah, my Lamar/Andrews stack had a lot to do with the dominance, but I was fully committed in 2019 to swinging for upside (totally reaching for Lamar in round 7 and Andrews in round 10), and not burning any picks nor roster spots on low upside options nor handcuffs. I've only ever won by being aggressive, and when I make a conservative pick, I usually regret it later.

I don't believe in handcuffing in the natural sense of drafting the next man up for an RB I own. This post is everything though. I prefer not to be married to an entire position for one team.

 

[Big Nate]

Sorry, but I can’t see a world where Wright is usable without an injury. Even if the same is true about Charbs, there is no indication of Wright being better than Charbs.

Charbs has proven to have production when Walker was out, so I would say most would value him more than Wright.

I just believe handcuffing is a bad use of roster spots and in Charbs case, bad use of draft capital on top of it.

In most cases, it can be. In the case of Walker / Charbonnet, it is not. First of all, you can get Walker later than he should go due to injury concerns.
Second, Charbonnet is worth his ADP. He is an instant RB1 if Walker were to miss time.

I LOVE handcuffing RB's when there is a clear RB1 and a backup who has the ability to produce RB1 numbers if needed.

Outside of Seattle, the only team that comes close is Atlanta in my opinion.

I'd much rather draft three or four RBs I love rather than draft two RBs I love and their handcuffs. In the former build, I've often had three good to great RBs. If one gets hurts or one just flat out disappoints, usually I've been ok to still firing on all cylinders. In the latter strategy, I'll have at most two starting RBs in any given week. And if one of those rushing offenses stinks, I've doubled my pain, and have no "outs". Handcuffing is a terrible strategy IMO.

Who said two? If you draft four total RB's and one happens to be Walker, Charbonnet is a must. Then you draft an RB2 and RB3 like you normally would.

Drafting two RB's and two handcuffs is not at all what I suggested.

Charbs a must? Not even close to a must in my mind. I'd much much much rather roster a third option that has weekly upside, and I 'd rather use that ninth round pick on my first QB or TE.

If you own Walker, Charbonnet is a must.

Nope. I'd much rather shoot for guys with weekly upside. In my first league, sizable chance Walker or Achane get hurt, yet I'd still rather pin my chances on RJ Harvey stepping up by then. Because if RJ Harvey emerges, he not just steps in when one of my primary RBs gets hurt, I can also start him in flex. I don't shy away from talented RBs with the injury prone label and, it's odd to many, but I don't handcuff. For example, in 2019, I took Saquon, Aaron Jones, Fournette with my first three picks. All talented but all considered injury prone. Saquon battled a high ankle sprain most of the season and was a bust. Aaron Jones had the best season his career, finishing RB2 overall. Fournette was great at his 3rd round ADP and finished around RB7 overall. Despite Saquon busting at #1 overall, that was my most dominant team ever. Yeah, my Lamar/Andrews stack had a lot to do with the dominance, but I was fully committed in 2019 to swinging for upside (totally reaching for Lamar in round 7 and Andrews in round 10), and not burning any picks nor roster spots on low upside options nor handcuffs. I've only ever won by being aggressive, and when I make a conservative pick, I usually regret it later.

Harvey's ADP is 60 while Charbs is 110. Not even close. What are we actually comparing here.

It comes down to if you like the player or not and what you are willing to pay. 110 is reasonable for Charbs if you want to go that route. Also sorry if this is derailing. We should really take this to a separate thread.

Achane and Wright are good options to pair.

 

[bluemanfoo]

Sorry, but I can’t see a world where Wright is usable without an injury. Even if the same is true about Charbs, there is no indication of Wright being better than Charbs.

Charbs has proven to have production when Walker was out, so I would say most would value him more than Wright.

I just believe handcuffing is a bad use of roster spots and in Charbs case, bad use of draft capital on top of it.

In most cases, it can be. In the case of Walker / Charbonnet, it is not. First of all, you can get Walker later than he should go due to injury concerns.
Second, Charbonnet is worth his ADP. He is an instant RB1 if Walker were to miss time.

I LOVE handcuffing RB's when there is a clear RB1 and a backup who has the ability to produce RB1 numbers if needed.

Outside of Seattle, the only team that comes close is Atlanta in my opinion.

I'd much rather draft three or four RBs I love rather than draft two RBs I love and their handcuffs. In the former build, I've often had three good to great RBs. If one gets hurts or one just flat out disappoints, usually I've been ok to still firing on all cylinders. In the latter strategy, I'll have at most two starting RBs in any given week. And if one of those rushing offenses stinks, I've doubled my pain, and have no "outs". Handcuffing is a terrible strategy IMO.

Who said two? If you draft four total RB's and one happens to be Walker, Charbonnet is a must. Then you draft an RB2 and RB3 like you normally would.

Drafting two RB's and two handcuffs is not at all what I suggested.

Charbs a must? Not even close to a must in my mind. I'd much much much rather roster a third option that has weekly upside, and I 'd rather use that ninth round pick on my first QB or TE.

If you own Walker, Charbonnet is a must.

Nope. I'd much rather shoot for guys with weekly upside. In my first league, sizable chance Walker or Achane get hurt, yet I'd still rather pin my chances on RJ Harvey stepping up by then. Because if RJ Harvey emerges, he not just steps in when one of my primary RBs gets hurt, I can also start him in flex. I don't shy away from talented RBs with the injury prone label and, it's odd to many, but I don't handcuff. For example, in 2019, I took Saquon, Aaron Jones, Fournette with my first three picks. All talented but all considered injury prone. Saquon battled a high ankle sprain most of the season and was a bust. Aaron Jones had the best season his career, finishing RB2 overall. Fournette was great at his 3rd round ADP and finished around RB7 overall. Despite Saquon busting at #1 overall, that was my most dominant team ever. Yeah, my Lamar/Andrews stack had a lot to do with the dominance, but I was fully committed in 2019 to swinging for upside (totally reaching for Lamar in round 7 and Andrews in round 10), and not burning any picks nor roster spots on low upside options nor handcuffs. I've only ever won by being aggressive, and when I make a conservative pick, I usually regret it later.

I don't believe in handcuffing in the natural sense of drafting the next man up for an RB I own. This post is everything though. I prefer not to be married to an entire position for one team.

Yeah, my personal experience has flat out told me handcuffing is a terrible strategy. Despite that innately learned intuition, it's not very easy to communicate why it's so bad, but your wording helped me clarify the reasoning in my head. People think by handcuffing they are minimizing risk, but they are often doing the opposite. If you devote two draft picks and two rosters spots to one starting backfield, it better damn be worth it, because you are "married" to one team's backfield at that point. After devoting all those resources to one backfield, you are crippled if that team's rushing game sucks.

Note that I play redraft for the most part. If you have a ton of roster spots in dynasty, it's a different "equation."

 

[3nOut]

Let’s get this thread bc ack on topic.

I think the Waller acquisition helps Achane even more. He is good enough to take some attention away from Achane but not enough to make a significant fantasy impact.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Tyreek Hill on pulling Achane on 3rd and short...

https://x.com/HaydenWinks/status/1951400718729941135

 

[Ilov80s]

Tyreek Hill on pulling Achane on 3rd and short...

https://x.com/HaydenWinks/status/1951400718729941135

I don't think he is necessarily wrong but I can't believe he said it to the media

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Tyreek Hill on pulling Achane on 3rd and short...

https://x.com/HaydenWinks/status/1951400718729941135

I don't think he is necessarily wrong but I can't believe he said it to the media

Hill has almost no filter

 

[SayWhat?]

Hill has almost no filter

I think it’s something a bit more foundational than a filter, as to what Tyreek lacks.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Tyreek Hill on pulling Achane on 3rd and short...

https://x.com/HaydenWinks/status/1951400718729941135

I don't think he is necessarily wrong but I can't believe he said it to the media

Bingo. Hill seems to be trending past the “red line” on a lot of th8ngs in his life right now. At this point, hard to expect him to grasp professionalism.

 

[msudaisy26]

Tyreek Hill on pulling Achane on 3rd and short...

https://x.com/HaydenWinks/status/1951400718729941135

I don't think he is necessarily wrong but I can't believe he said it to the media

I think he is wrong and I also believe Hill knows he is wrong. I think Hill is trying to force a trade without demanding a trade.

 

[Faust]

Zareh Kantzabedian
De'Von Achane is reportedly improving his route running this year. Last season, Achane averaged more yards per route from the slot than the following players, all of whom had at least a 27% slot alignment:

- Wan'Dale Robinson
- Demario Douglas
- Keenan Allen
- D.J. Moore
- Jerry Jeudy
- Christian Kirk
- Tyreek Hill
- Jakobi Meyers
- Xavier Worthy
- Marvin Harrison Jr.:

https://x.com/zkantzff/status/1953141597551640751?s=61

 

[Faust]

Brady Hamilton
De’Von Achane has a chance to finish as WR3 for the Dolphins stats wise.

He’s going to be an absolute weapon in the passing game.
#PhinsUp

https://x.com/bradyh_216/status/1950268337457439211?s=61

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Apparently Achane had the highest PPG when Tua was healthy? Of course that may not be the case for the entire season but how this guy consistently gets slept on is besides me. He is a potential league winner.

 

[zamboni]

Uh oh - lower body injury

https://x.com/davidfurones_/status/1956823052781515157?s=46&t=kXp9uTPT7MTZKlfkEtBQZw

McDaniel says not severe but who knows what that means in terms of timeframe

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

Unfortunately the whole MIA offense has become suspect. I’m not sure I want anyone except Achane and even then only if he goes for a discount.

 

[BlackCrowes]

Uh oh - lower body injury

https://x.com/davidfurones_/status/1956823052781515157?s=46&t=kXp9uTPT7MTZKlfkEtBQZw

McDaniel says not severe but who knows what that means in terms of timeframe

That’s a fountain of information. That’s a geyser.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

De'Von Achane injury update: Dolphins RB dealing with soft tissue injury, will be out 'between days and weeks'

Coach Mike McDaniel was vague on specifics, but indicated Achane's injury is not a serious one

www.cbssports.com

"Weeks" is mentioned
OG II looked the part for Miami vs the Lions today, he's looked good. B2B weeks, better than Wright in camp and on field.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I can't fathom where he'd have to fall for me to draft him. 4th?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I can't fathom where he'd have to fall for me to draft him. 4th?

4th round?
130 touches, 1,000 yds, 11 TDs rookie season
280 touches 1,500 yds, 12 TDs his 2nd season

You have him ranked with Kenny Walker, his numbers have never looked that good, Hampton an unknown rookie, Kamara, Hubbard...
Try again

 

[zamboni]

Unfortunately I doubt we’ll have much information on Achane until official practices officially start heading into week 1. And I don’t believe what McDaniel says at all.

 

[FarFromHome]

De'Von Achane injury update: Dolphins RB dealing with soft tissue injury, will be out 'between days and weeks'

Coach Mike McDaniel was vague on specifics, but indicated Achane's injury is not a serious one

www.cbssports.com

"Weeks" is mentioned
OG II looked the part for Miami vs the Lions today, he's looked good. B2B weeks, better than Wright in camp and on field.

Ollie is the definition of a last pick dart throw. Zero investment. Wait to see how this pans out. Drop of it doesn't have signs of paying anything.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I can't fathom where he'd have to fall for me to draft him. 4th?

4th round?
130 touches, 1,000 yds, 11 TDs rookie season
280 touches 1,500 yds, 12 TDs his 2nd season

You have him ranked with Kenny Walker, his numbers have never looked that good, Hampton an unknown rookie, Kamara, Hubbard...
Try again

How far do you drop him based on this?

Im Just not investing in a lemon, maybe mid round 3 is fair, but I'm taking Hampton and KWIII over him ( and yes I know he looks nicked)

The Vibes are disastrous in miami right now

 

[Faust]

Dolphins RB De'Von Achane has lower body injury but team believes he'll be available Week 1

 

[menobrown]

I can't fathom where he'd have to fall for me to draft him. 4th?

4th round?
130 touches, 1,000 yds, 11 TDs rookie season
280 touches 1,500 yds, 12 TDs his 2nd season

You have him ranked with Kenny Walker, his numbers have never looked that good, Hampton an unknown rookie, Kamara, Hubbard...
Try again

How far do you drop him based on this?

Im Just not investing in a lemon, maybe mid round 3 is fair, but I'm taking Hampton and KWIII over him ( and yes I know he looks nicked)

The Vibes are disastrous in miami right now

If you are dropping him that low I'd not waste another second of mental energy on it because the only way he's going to be around at that point anyway is if he's announced as out for multiple weeks. He's a first round turn guy right now. Might as well just take him off your board, put him on your DND list if you are going to rank him that low.

 

[the spanker]

I really wanted him in my ppr league so much I was willing to use my #9 pick to ensure I got him.

Now I don't know what to think.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I really wanted him in my ppr league so much I was willing to use my #9 pick to ensure I got him.

Now I don't know what to think.

He's well worth #9 in PPR imo. Dude had 78 catches last year.

 

[travdogg]

I can't fathom where he'd have to fall for me to draft him. 4th?

4th round?
130 touches, 1,000 yds, 11 TDs rookie season
280 touches 1,500 yds, 12 TDs his 2nd season

You have him ranked with Kenny Walker, his numbers have never looked that good, Hampton an unknown rookie, Kamara, Hubbard...
Try again

How far do you drop him based on this?

Im Just not investing in a lemon, maybe mid round 3 is fair, but I'm taking Hampton and KWIII over him ( and yes I know he looks nicked)

The Vibes are disastrous in miami right now

I think this is enough for me to drop him behind guys like Irving and Jeanty (guys I had in his tier already) but I'd still have him well above Hampton and Walker, and still above Brown and Kyren too. I can't imagine him not going top-20 unless we get way worse news than we've gotten. Only so far you can drop an offensive centerpiece guy, who is in a non-terrible offense.

 

[menobrown]

I really wanted him in my ppr league so much I was willing to use my #9 pick to ensure I got him.

Now I don't know what to think.

I took him at 10 of a big draft a few days ago with the call being over Nabers because I was concerned about Nabers health. Specifically his toe only to find out later it’s his back and I actually drafted the guy with the lower body injury afterall.

 

[the spanker]

I really wanted him in my ppr league so much I was willing to use my #9 pick to ensure I got him.

Now I don't know what to think.

I took him at 10 of a big draft a few days ago with the call being over Nabers because I was concerned about Nabers health. Specifically his toe only to find out later it’s his back and I actually drafted the guy with the lower body injury afterall.

I really wanted him in my ppr league so much I was willing to use my #9 pick to ensure I got him.

Now I don't know what to think.

He's well worth #9 in PPR imo. Dude had 78 catches last year.

I'm still optimistic of his high catch potential and explosive ability but really worried if he can stay healthy due to his light frame.

Again really wanted this guy and was afraid I'd be sniped from getting him in the 2nd round.

Maybe this is a blessing in disguise and could this news could now suppress his value to have a higher chance of drafting him in 2nd round?

My greatest fear is already happening. Most likely the only two guys that will probably be staring me in the face with my first pick are CMC and Achane. They are both high celling picks but I'm more worried about elevated injury risk level with CMC.

That's why if both were on the board I was going to default to Achane. Now of course Achane gets injured complicating everything.
I'm open ears. Now what do I do?

What would you do? Late rd picks value are taking a hit. Puka--Stafford hit. Nabers--injured. UGH!

 

[BlackCrowes]

for what its worth, Marty Jaramillo, who looks to be a Sports Injury Analyst for CBS Sports, thinks Achane could miss up to the first 3 weeks. It was on a Fantasy Football Today youtube video. Trying to find the link again.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

for what its worth, Marty Jaramillo, who looks to be a Sports Injury Analyst for CBS Sports, thinks Achane could miss up to the first 3 weeks. It was on a Fantasy Football Today youtube video. Trying to find the link again.

Urgg what.

 

[Football Jones]

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Here's the vid concerning Achane and some others, including CMC.

For the record, I've never heard of Jaramillo, but looking around, it seems like he's fairly well known.

 

[zamboni]

for what its worth, Marty Jaramillo, who looks to be a Sports Injury Analyst for CBS Sports, thinks Achane could miss up to the first 3 weeks. It was on a Fantasy Football Today youtube video. Trying to find the link again.

I just listened to the pod - definitely surprised to hear it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

De’Von Achane injury update leaves Dolphins fans torn between relief and doubt

The Miami Dolphins have made their decision on whether or not De'Von Achane will practice, and the news is good despite sounding bad.

phinphanatic.com

Calf injury, not said to be serious but just to be safe they are keeping him out of practice this week and he'll skip Game 3 of the preseason, doubt he would play anyways
Season kicks off Sept 7th for the Miami Dolphins and it's Aug 19th...over 2 full weeks to rest it

If he drops in redrafts over the weekend to middle 2nd or late 2nd, i wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on him
Not very optimistic about Wright, if Achane were to miss 2-3 games, feel strongly that Gordon would be involved a lot in the running game
But he mostly will go undrafted so don't reach for his back up until pretty late in your redraft
Unless it's a Shark Pool redraft and then you know Gordon will be grabbed late

 

[BigJim®]

Boy, only need to think back to NBA playoffs to be a little on edge about calf injuries.

 

[menobrown]

I'm for sure not unconcerned but one sign the Dolphins may not think it's long term is that I've not seen them workout any RB's. When Mattison got hurt they signed someone the next day.

It's possible I'm off base and it's just due to fact that the cutdown to 53 is in a week so they are thinking "why bother" but they've known about this injury since late last week and again unless I missed it, have not workout any RB's.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm for sure not not unconcerned but one sign the Dolphins may not think it's long term is that I've not seen them workout any RB's. When Mattison got hurt they signed someone the next day.

It's possible I'm off base and it's just due to fact that the cutdown to 53 is in a week so they are thinking "why bother" but they've known about this injury since late last week and again unless I missed it, have not workout any RB's.

Great point and good sign imo.

 

[FarFromHome]

I'm for sure not not unconcerned but one sign the Dolphins may not think it's long term is that I've not seen them workout any RB's. When Mattison got hurt they signed someone the next day.

It's possible I'm off base and it's just due to fact that the cutdown to 53 is in a week so they are thinking "why bother" but they've known about this injury since late last week and again unless I missed it, have not workout any RB's.

Great point and good sign imo.

Well. They do have 5 rbs and a fullback on roster. You'd assume at 53 cutdown 1 or 2 of those hit the practice squad? Do they feel good with the talent of the 5 if Achane misses games? Hard to say

 

[King of the Jungle]

I'm for sure not not unconcerned but one sign the Dolphins may not think it's long term is that I've not seen them workout any RB's. When Mattison got hurt they signed someone the next day.

It's possible I'm off base and it's just due to fact that the cutdown to 53 is in a week so they are thinking "why bother" but they've known about this injury since late last week and again unless I missed it, have not workout any RB's.

Great point and good sign imo.

Well. They do have 5 rbs and a fullback on roster. You'd assume at 53 cutdown 1 or 2 of those hit the practice squad? Do they feel good with the talent of the 5 if Achane misses games? Hard to say

No immediate panic moves as of yet, so that is a decent sign. Maybe they like enough of what they see with Ollie/Wright…

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I wonder how much of a discount we’ll see Achane receive at redraft auctions.

 

[Payne]

Taking Achane in the 1st with this injury and an already suspect QB, line and team overall is asking to lose your league.
He just isn't worth the draft capital that early. I'm not touching him.

 

[FarFromHome]

Taking Achane in the 1st with this injury and an already suspect QB, line and team overall is asking to lose your league.
He just isn't worth the draft capital that early. I'm not touching him.

I own zero shares of Achane. I agree he isn't worth a 1st round pick. At least for me. I don't have a problem with people taking him there though. If he plays 17 games his upside is literally the #1 scoring rb in fantasy. Just a monster. Had 10 more receptions than Kamara. They need to figure out a way to get him 250 rushing attempts but keep him healthy. That's the problem though.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Didn't CMC's issue last year start with a calf injury?

 

[Runkle]

I wonder how much of a discount we’ll see Achane receive at redraft auctions.

We have a "must keep 2" rule and our draft basically starts in the third round. Achane wasn't kept (owner had 2 guys he liked better). Serious chance he falls to me mid-round as I'm pretty much guaranteed to see at least one of the un-kept Achane, James Cook, Brian Thomas Jr., or Chubba Hubbard at my slot. I've already got 2 RBs and can put Achane in my flex... it's tempting...

 

[kutta]

I wonder how much of a discount we’ll see Achane receive at redraft auctions.

We have a "must keep 2" rule and our draft basically starts in the third round. Achane wasn't kept (owner had 2 guys he liked better). Serious chance he falls to me mid-round as I'm pretty much guaranteed to see at least one of the un-kept Achane, James Cook, Brian Thomas Jr., or Chubba Hubbard at my slot. I've already got 2 RBs and can put Achane in my flex... it's tempting...

I don’t think there’s a chance in hell you get Achane if those are the best three guys ahead of him.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Didn't CMC's issue last year start with a calf injury?

Yes,but to be fair many more hard mikes and five years older

 

[Faust]

Adam Koffler
The Achane discourse out of Miami has been weird

He’s reportedly fine but also still not practicing, but apparently the media knows this? Like, they know his return to practice schedule?

Does anyone actually trust McDaniel here? Are we blind to the fact that this could be bad?

https://x.com/adamkoffler/status/1960450032450330715?s=61