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Wait, is this true? He's at 2.0 ypc without that 67 yard run??Bracie Smathers said:The majority of Murray's rushing yardage came on a 67-yard run, as he managed just 2.0 yards per carry outside of that play
Wait, is this true? He's at 2.0 ypc without that 67 yard run??Bracie Smathers said:The majority of Murray's rushing yardage came on a 67-yard run, as he managed just 2.0 yards per carry outside of that play
For Week 2, yes. 12-89 less the 67 yarder = 11-22Wait, is this true? He's at 2.0 ypc without that 67 yard run??
maybe it is just me but that looks like Jacobs to me, upright, fast, and some powervintage Brandon Jacobs type stuff here:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000698261/Marcus-Mariota-finds-Derrick-Henry-for-a-big-29-yard-gain
He turned a loser play into a big play with a broken tackle, a stiff arm, and a juke at the end.vintage Brandon Jacobs type stuff here:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000698261/Marcus-Mariota-finds-Derrick-Henry-for-a-big-29-yard-gain
The Titans run game has been pretty bad for a while now. I'm not sure why one draft pick would change that. It's 50/50 that a 1st round lineman ever works out, significantly less that he becomes a very good player in his 1st year. And even in that rare scenario (10% at best?) it's still just one guy out of five.Why do you think this is? I thought they had the makings of a pretty strong run blocking offensive line especially with the addition of the first round lineman. I haven't been watching nor do I won any of the Titan RBs but traded away Murray because I felt that Henry would eventually supplant him at some point this year.
I am not sure when it happens but was only sharing Franciscovich 's story because he is someone who I recently have begun to notice as having 'decent' takes.
Four new linemen since midway thru last seasonThe Titans run game has been pretty bad for a while now. I'm not sure why one draft pick would change that. It's 50/50 that a 1st round lineman ever works out, significantly less that he becomes a very good player in his 1st year. And even in that rare scenario (10% at best?) it's still just one guy out of five.
I'm blessed (cursed) with a long redraft bench, so he'll be down there in slot 18 for the duration. If he ever gets a chance, look out. But otherwise not much value for 2016.I am barely holding onto him in two leagues with short benches. I may just have to play him this week cuz I don't want to drop him. He is definetly the back up to own if Murray ever gets dinged. Dynasty, I agree 100% with you.
Don't think it was "low", but yesterday in a 14 team PPR I dealt Abdullah/Martavis/Enunwa/late 1st (devy league) for Henry.bostonfred said:Curious how low people are able to get him. I have him as a top 10 dynasty rb.
Hope everyone bought before he had a chance to show his stuff.Bump. Anyone seeing what Murray is doing behind this OL and thinking now is the time to sniff around in dynasty, when Henry isn't participating much and people might forget how good he looked in preseason?
If Murray gets hurt at any point, there will be no getting on the Henry train at a reasonable price.
Titans coach Mike Mularkey said Derrick Henry's workloads will remain gameflow dependent.
"It was just the flow of how the game was going," said Mularkey on Henry's season-high 16 carries. "We've done a good job with these guys. I think it's more of how the game is going along." Henry had 97 total yards and a touchdown Thursday night after getting three carries the last two games. He got most of his work when DeMarco Murray (toe) left late in the first half. The Titans are going to remain a one-back offense, but Henry could push for standalone value with matchups against San Diego and the Colts two of the next three weeks. Murray is on pace for a league-high 320 carries.
Source: titansonline.com
Eh, really want to, but starting Antone Smith tonight. Wish had more time to see what is going on with Demarco but just had so many weeks with him where he only gets 3 carries. That team is just riding Demarco into the ground. Would love what I was seeing of Demarco usage if I was Henry dyno owner.Starting him over Ryan Mathews.
Yep....huge let down. Now the injury. I got absolutely nothing out of him.Major bust for most people, especially those of us who finally had to start him yesterday due to byes, only to see him get hurt and put up a fat zero. What a waste of a pick this year.
$6.5M is cheap if Murray is still performing. He'll be 29 next year and 30 in 2018. He has only had 1 big carry year before this year, so he could easily play two. I hate to repeat what I posted way early in this thread (I told people who thought Henry was going to take over early season they were crazy), but Murray looks better, period. Henry hasn't looked bad but the preseason carries were a bad sample. Henry got stopped easily against Carolina's starters and ran wild against guys who didn't make the team. His hype wasn't based on real NFL carries. I'm not saying he won't be good, but even next year, he's a handcuff IMHO. Murray, barring injury, will be the main back again next year.http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/cap/
2017 $6.25M fully guaranteed and dead money
2018 $6.5M none guaranteed or dead money
He's there one more year regardless. 2018 is pretty unlikely given his age and Henry's presence but it's certainly not impossible. If Henry struggles or has injury concerns and Murray is still producing Murray could be there 2018 also.
He won my match up for me last week. A handcuff contributing for a week seems reasonable.Major bust for most people, especially those of us who finally had to start him yesterday due to byes, only to see him get hurt and put up a fat zero. What a waste of a pick this year.
That's what I just said.$6.5M is cheap if Murray is still performing. He'll be 29 next year and 30 in 2018. He has only had 1 big carry year before this year, so he could easily play two. I hate to repeat what I posted way early in this thread (I told people who thought Henry was going to take over early season they were crazy), but Murray looks better, period. Henry hasn't looked bad but the preseason carries were a bad sample. Henry got stopped easily against Carolina's starters and ran wild against guys who didn't make the team. His hype wasn't based on real NFL carries. I'm not saying he won't be good, but even next year, he's a handcuff IMHO. Murray, barring injury, will be the main back again next year.
Can a guy with a late 6th round ADP really be a "major bust". I mean RBs picked there hit at like a 10% rate. They've always been lotto tickets that you hope can work out but don't expect to.Major bust for most people, especially those of us who finally had to start him yesterday due to byes, only to see him get hurt and put up a fat zero. What a waste of a pick this year.
Agree especially when that ADP was massively inflated by pure speculation about playing time. People drafted a handcuff too early and now they complain about it - does not compute.Can a guy with a late 6th round ADP really be a "major bust". I mean RBs picked there hit at like a 10% rate. They've always been lotto tickets that you hope can work out but don't expect to.
Henry has looked better as a receiver, though.$6.5M is cheap if Murray is still performing. He'll be 29 next year and 30 in 2018. He has only had 1 big carry year before this year, so he could easily play two. I hate to repeat what I posted way early in this thread (I told people who thought Henry was going to take over early season they were crazy), but Murray looks better, period. Henry hasn't looked bad but the preseason carries were a bad sample. Henry got stopped easily against Carolina's starters and ran wild against guys who didn't make the team. His hype wasn't based on real NFL carries. I'm not saying he won't be good, but even next year, he's a handcuff IMHO. Murray, barring injury, will be the main back again next year.
He's got 9 receptions. Hard to gauge anything on that but he's had some nice gains. He's got 53 rushes, so a bit more to review and compare.Henry has looked better as a receiver, though.
Not really. You said he's there in 2017 because it's guaranteed and you said it's unlikely he stays in 2018 at his age, but he might if Henry isn't performing. Not sure how that equates to me saying that he's likely to stay because his contract isn't expensive. Seems like you think he's unlikely to be there and I think it is likely.That's what I just said.
and Murray is still producing Murray could be there 2018 also.Not really. You said he's there in 2017 because it's guaranteed and you said it's unlikely he stays in 2018 at his age, but he might if Henry isn't performing. Not sure how that equates to me saying that he's likely to stay because his contract isn't expensive. Seems like you think he's unlikely to be there and I think it is likely.