RB Devonta Freeman, BAL (1 Viewer)

[humpback]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

 

[TDorBust]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

 

[humpback]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

What's the excuse for last year?

 

[kittenmittens]

I'm thinking of trying to buy here... what's his real Dynasty value with Coleman coming back? How much stock do we put into two weeks?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

What's the excuse for last year?

Different coaches and systems. Rookie season learning the game.

 

[The Dude]

Like the Christine Michael thread - why does everything have to be an argument?

 

[humpback]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

What's the excuse for last year?

Different coaches and systems. Rookie season learning the game.

So last year it was that he was a rookie learning the game and the coaches/system stunk, and the 1st two weeks of this year it was that he was injured, and then magically everything that has been holding him back was lifted and the last two weeks is what he's always been? I'm guessing the drafting of Coleman with a higher pick than they used on him was just for depth, right? Also, if a rookie learning the game is a major hindrance, doesn't that mean that Coleman should also improve dramatically in the future?

He's played well the last two weeks, but his track record overall hasn't been good, and IMO most of the last two weeks is due to the play of the O-line.

 

[Hoosier16]

The fear is that the coaches watched both Freeman and Coleman for several weeks. The coaches decided Coleman was the better RB and got the starting job week 1. So what do the coaches think now? That's the key.

I definitely think he eats into Freeman's carries and in the next few weeks maybe even to 50-50.

Thats NOT the case. Freeman and Coleman were both injured for the majority of the preseason. Coleman came back the last week and did well, Freeman didn't come back. They then gave Coleman the nod week 1. Freeman was just getting healthy and back into shape week 2 when Coleman went out.

Had both been healthy all preseason there is no telling what would have happened. Freeman has now taken the job.

Freeman and Coleman both returned to practice on Monday, August 17th, a full month before the 1st game. Freeman was fully healthy and in shape for that game. Coleman outplaying him had nothing to do with Freeman working himself back into shape or still being injured. Because of Freeman's success the last two weeks, they likely aren't going to rush Coleman back before the ribs are healed.

On Aug 22 the coach said he was close to returning. On the 17th they merely rejoined practice. He was standing, not participating.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/9423/devonta-freeman

I guess it depends on the source you use. Here, it says he fully returned to practice on the 19th. Regardless of whether it was the 19th or 22nd, he was clearly healthy in week 1 and it doesn't take a 23 year old professional athlete a month to get back in shape from a two week hamstring injury. Neither were responsible for his results weeks one and two.

 

[TDorBust]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

What's the excuse for last year?

Different coaches and systems. Rookie season learning the game.

So last year it was that he was a rookie learning the game and the coaches/system stunk, and the 1st two weeks of this year it was that he was injured, and then magically everything that has been holding him back was lifted and the last two weeks is what he's always been? I'm guessing the drafting of Coleman with a higher pick than they used on him was just for depth, right? Also, if a rookie learning the game is a major hindrance, doesn't that mean that Coleman should also improve dramatically in the future?

He's played well the last two weeks, but his track record overall hasn't been good, and IMO most of the last two weeks is due to the play of the O-line.

Look dont own him if you dont want but these are legitimate reasons (not even excuses) as to why he would under perform. I dont think anyone expects him to stay on this pace but at this point he is solidly entrenched as a 1RB the rest of the year likely.

Having a mediocre first year as a backup does not relegate you to the cellar for the rest of your career, just as having a first year that is successful could mean you are Trent Richardson. Things change, including opportunity, players around you, work ethic, and simple luck.

By the way in case you didn't see it there have been 16 players with back to back 30 point games since 2000:

Brian Westbrook 2008
Clinton Portis 2003
DeAngelo Williams 2008
Deuce McAllister 2003
LaDainian Tomlinson 2003, 2006
Larry Johnson 2005
Le'Veon Bell 2014
Marshall Faulk* 2000, 2001
Mike Anderson 2000
Priest Holmes 2003. 2004
Ricky Williams 2000, 2002
Steven Jackson 2006
Let me know if you think any of these guys were fantasy busts during those seasons? Also take a look a Le'Veon Bell as a Rookie (NO I AM NOT SAYING FREEMAN WILL BE BELL FOR SURE):

2013 - 244 for 860 (3.5) and 8TDs w/ 45 receptions for 399 and 0TDs

The Steelers even brought in another RB who performed pretty well the year prior in Blount and were paying him more than Bell going in to the season, although Bell was still projected to be the #1. At this point Coleman will likely eat in to some of the touches for Freeman but if he keeps producing there is no way they can pull him from the field.

 

[TDorBust]

The fear is that the coaches watched both Freeman and Coleman for several weeks. The coaches decided Coleman was the better RB and got the starting job week 1. So what do the coaches think now? That's the key.

I definitely think he eats into Freeman's carries and in the next few weeks maybe even to 50-50.

Thats NOT the case. Freeman and Coleman were both injured for the majority of the preseason. Coleman came back the last week and did well, Freeman didn't come back. They then gave Coleman the nod week 1. Freeman was just getting healthy and back into shape week 2 when Coleman went out.

Had both been healthy all preseason there is no telling what would have happened. Freeman has now taken the job.

Freeman and Coleman both returned to practice on Monday, August 17th, a full month before the 1st game. Freeman was fully healthy and in shape for that game. Coleman outplaying him had nothing to do with Freeman working himself back into shape or still being injured. Because of Freeman's success the last two weeks, they likely aren't going to rush Coleman back before the ribs are healed.

On Aug 22 the coach said he was close to returning. On the 17th they merely rejoined practice. He was standing, not participating.

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/9423/devonta-freeman

I guess it depends on the source you use. Here, it says he fully returned to practice on the 19th. Regardless of whether it was the 19th or 22nd, he was clearly healthy in week 1 and it doesn't take a 23 year old professional athlete a month to get back in shape from a two week hamstring injury. Neither were responsible for his results weeks one and two.

Aug 29

http://www.scout.com/fantasy/story/1580188-falcons-rb-devonta-freeman-still-sidelined-with-a-hamstring-issue

Sep 7

http://www.sbnation.com/fantasy/2015/9/7/9271981/devonta-freeman-fantasy-football-injury-update

Sep 8

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/falcons-rb-devonta-freeman-not-quite-at-100-percent/

 

[humpback]

It's odd how emotionally invested people become in FF. No one is saying that there's zero chance that a RB can improve, but I can assure you the list of guys who were mediocre (at best) their rookie years and went on to have mediocre (at best) careers is much longer than the list that includes turnarounds ala Le'Veon Bell (not to mention Bell was a better prospect to begin with).

As an owner, I'm just trying to remain objective about the situation. Two good games doesn't erase all of the poor ones, and the holes he had to run through the last two weeks were gigantic. I think he's the biggest sell-high of the year if you can get what some people in here are saying he's worth. I haven't found that to be close to reality in my leagues because most owners share my concerns, so I'll hold and hope it continues. Time will tell.

 

[fightingillini]

It's odd how emotionally invested people become in FF. No one is saying that there's zero chance that a RB can improve, but I can assure you the list of guys who were mediocre (at best) their rookie years and went on to have mediocre (at best) careers is much longer than the list that includes turnarounds ala Le'Veon Bell (not to mention Bell was a better prospect to begin with).

As an owner, I'm just trying to remain objective about the situation. Two good games doesn't erase all of the poor ones, and the holes he had to run through the last two weeks were gigantic. I think he's the biggest sell-high of the year if you can get what some people in here are saying he's worth. I haven't found that to be close to reality in my leagues because most owners share my concerns, so I'll hold and hope it continues. Time will tell.

Maybe the Falcons' OL is that good. But I am very impressed with Freeman's ability to run near the goalline. Plus, Freeman is an excellent receiver, so his floor is still going to be pretty high, even if Coleman eats into the rushing pie.

That said, I would sell high if I could package Freeman and another player and get someone like Bell or Charles. But it won't happpen, so Freeman IMO is hold and reap the benefits of low RB1-high RB2 production.

 

[Ted Mullins]

That said, I would sell high if I could package Freeman and another player and get someone like Bell or Charles. But it won't happpen, so Freeman IMO is hold and reap the benefits of low RB1-high RB2 production.

This is exactly how I feel - he's a sell high if someone's going to pay you anywhere near what he's been doing but that's pretty unlikely, especially with Coleman back at practice yesterday.

IMO I feel good about Freeman as an every week start going forward as long as he's taking 50+% of carries and continues to get goalline/passing down work - everything we've seen the last few weeks makes me think that'll be the case.

 

[lod01]

No one really knows why Coleman was named the starter for certain, but it's pretty clear Atlanta didn't have a super high opinion on Freeman- he didn't take many carries away from an ancient SJax and JAG Quizz last year, and then they used a higher pick than they used on him to take Coleman. Just a reminder, even after these two games that everyone is going bonkers over, Freeman has a 3.8 ypc avg. on the season...

Regardless, it seems likely that both will get carries going forward, and whichever performs better will command more of them (fwiw, that was Coleman for the first two games of the season).

Look at when he was primary back and he is over 4.0 and those first two games he was still getting healthy. So while you can say count everything you need to remember that things have changed and freeman is now fully healthy.

What's the excuse for last year?

So you have no idea how awful Mike Smith was?

Try this on for size. The team would line up at or around the 50 on 2nd & 10 and have Julio or Roddy out wide, the other on the bench, a FB and Steven Jackson. Why not just tell the other team you are handing off. The play got blown up every single time they ran it. The 2nd week I saw the formation, I knew it was a handoff. The defense had to be laughing at them.

Simply put the coaching staff was clueless. I'm positive they are 0-4 or at best 1-3 if Smith was still HC.

 

[TDorBust]

It's odd how emotionally invested people become in FF. No one is saying that there's zero chance that a RB can improve, but I can assure you the list of guys who were mediocre (at best) their rookie years and went on to have mediocre (at best) careers is much longer than the list that includes turnarounds ala Le'Veon Bell (not to mention Bell was a better prospect to begin with).

As an owner, I'm just trying to remain objective about the situation. Two good games doesn't erase all of the poor ones, and the holes he had to run through the last two weeks were gigantic. I think he's the biggest sell-high of the year if you can get what some people in here are saying he's worth. I haven't found that to be close to reality in my leagues because most owners share my concerns, so I'll hold and hope it continues. Time will tell.

You are not getting his value at this point as people think its still a flash in the pan. I am 100% not "emotionally invested" and more than happy to move him if I could get RB1 value but who else would I even target is my issue, in PPR I am happy to hold him as I won't get anyone without as many questions if not more than Freeman. (Bell, Charles, Lacy owners are not giving them up most likely for anything less than robbery)

Also I find it even funnier how people try to continue to bash a guy when they should just move on. If you can't understand how being a backup and being injured can cause issues with production I can not help you. This week will be very telling with/without Coleman on the field if he can have another big week I think more people will have to come around and view Freeman as a top RB for 2015.

Freeman could fall flat but I am not going to short sell on his value when he has shown he can produce some monster numbers. This is not a 1 game flash and if he continues above average production this week possibly you can sell his stock for enough value to avoid the risk long term.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Hmm just got offered him and JBrown for DT, the same EXACT trade I was thinking about offering. Still everything about Freeman screams sell high.

Trade the #1 RB in fantasy through 4 weeks at your own risk.

I don't get this strategy either. I'd rather ride the guy and if he flounders, no big deal. If you trade him and he becomes the next Priest Holmes, you end up kicking yourself in the ###.

And if he goes back to his old self while the guy you could have traded for him does well, you end up kicking yourself in the ###.

Yeah in a worse case scenario you end up with Demaryius Thomas. Doesn't sound all that terrible.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

That said, I would sell high if I could package Freeman and another player and get someone like Bell or Charles. But it won't happpen, so Freeman IMO is hold and reap the benefits of low RB1-high RB2 production.

As a Bell and Charles owner I wouldn't want Freeman because Coleman is there for RBBC

 

[ImTheScientist]

That said, I would sell high if I could package Freeman and another player and get someone like Bell or Charles. But it won't happpen, so Freeman IMO is hold and reap the benefits of low RB1-high RB2 production.

As a Bell and Charles owner I wouldn't want Freeman because Coleman is there for RBBC

Is it really fun playing with people that allow you to have Bell, Charles, Lacy, and Forte on your team? Thats like dunking on 7th grade kids.

Most of us deal in a world where we are lucky to have one stud RB. Just sayin.

 

[Blick]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Through 4 weeks he is the #1RB in fantasy football. That is a fact. I own him in one league and don't in another. I with I had him in my other league.

 

[lod01]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

 

[Kenny Powers]

His receiving ability is why even once Coleman comes back, I think Freeman will still get 75% of the snaps or somewhere in that ballpark. I expect Coleman to still get 8-10 touches most games on a 25% snap count, but if Freeman's on the field that much he's still going to be getting enough touches for him to be in your lineup every week.

 

[RealReactions]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

By the end of the year from here on out i do not see him being a RB1. His points are greatly inflated due to the 6 touchdowns. Other wise he is an Average RB2

 

[Kenny Powers]

He wont be getting 3 TDs per game clearly, but once Coleman is back Im betting Freeman is still putting up 100+ total yards almost every week.

 

[lod01]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

By the end of the year from here on out i do not see him being a RB1. His points are greatly inflated due to the 6 touchdowns. Other wise he is an Average RB2

Yeah, he's currently a legit #1 but I'm talking about the whole year also. Coleman will get his and too many times the inferior guy gets in my guy's way, reducing a legit #1 into a RBBC cluster####.

DeAngelo Williams had the Stewart hack get in his way.

Gio Bernard has Hill in his way.

Crowell has No Power To Speak Of Mushmellon Johnson in his way...on a really ####ty team.

 

[Buzzbait]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

By the end of the year from here on out i do not see him being a RB1. His points are greatly inflated due to the 6 touchdowns. Other wise he is an Average RB2

Obviously he isn't going to continue to put up the same sick #s that he has the previous two weeks. Who does? The question is what does he have to average the remainder of the year to be considered a RB1 from weeks 5-17. Why don't you think he'll be a RB1? Do you think Coleman is going to cut significantly into his numbers and it will be a RBBC? Do you feel that the 5 week sample from Freeman is fools gold? Do think that Atlanta's schedule has been soft and lent itself to the gaudy rushing stats?

Personally I was skeptical until this past week. A five week sample is enough for me and I think he and Atlanta are the real deal. You don't put up back to back weeks like that unless there's something there.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

By the end of the year from here on out i do not see him being a RB1. His points are greatly inflated due to the 6 touchdowns. Other wise he is an Average RB2

Obviously he isn't going to continue to put up the same sick #s that he has the previous two weeks. Who does? The question is what does he have to average the remainder of the year to be considered a RB1 from weeks 5-17. Why don't you think he'll be a RB1? Do you think Coleman is going to cut significantly into his numbers and it will be a RBBC? Do you feel that the 5 week sample from Freeman is fools gold? Do think that Atlanta's schedule has been soft and lent itself to the gaudy rushing stats?

Personally I was skeptical until this past week. A five week sample is enough for me and I think he and Atlanta are the real deal. You don't put up back to back weeks like that unless there's something there.

In PPR he will be a RB1. He is a better inside runner than Coleman so he'll get goalline carries and he is the 3rd down back. Even if Coleman gets 8-10 carries a game that won't hurt Freeman one bit.

 

[RealReactions]

The problem is that the only people that think Freeman is a legit RB1 is the people that have him. Maybe that changes a little if he can combine for 100 yards and a score this week, but I doubt it.

I'm fine with using him as a plug in and forget RB1/2, even after Coleman comes back.

Not all of us. I think he is a legit NFL RB talent. I wouldn't call him a legit RB1 unless Coleman was out for the season. Then he would be.

In PPR he is a legit RB1.

By the end of the year from here on out i do not see him being a RB1. His points are greatly inflated due to the 6 touchdowns. Other wise he is an Average RB2

Obviously he isn't going to continue to put up the same sick #s that he has the previous two weeks. Who does? The question is what does he have to average the remainder of the year to be considered a RB1 from weeks 5-17. Why don't you think he'll be a RB1? Do you think Coleman is going to cut significantly into his numbers and it will be a RBBC? Do you feel that the 5 week sample from Freeman is fools gold? Do think that Atlanta's schedule has been soft and lent itself to the gaudy rushing stats?

Personally I was skeptical until this past week. A five week sample is enough for me and I think he and Atlanta are the real deal. You don't put up back to back weeks like that unless there's something there.

In PPR he will be a RB1. He is a better inside runner than Coleman so he'll get goalline carries and he is the 3rd down back. Even if Coleman gets 8-10 carries a game that won't hurt Freeman one bit.

Sure hope you're right but i just don't see it down the line.

 

[humpback]

Redraft 1/2 PPR I was offered Luck and Yeldon for Wilson and Freeman. Turned it down, mostly because of the uncertainly around Luck and his injury. Best offer I've seen so far.

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

Traded Freeman yesterday for Alshon. Not exactly a windfall.

 

[kittenmittens]

I bought him for Devonte Adams straight up, 12 team ppr dynasty.

I'm not totally sold in him yet.

 

[Squintz82]

Traded Freeman yesterday for Alshon. Not exactly a windfall.

I bought him for Devonte Adams straight up, 12 team ppr dynasty.

I'm not totally sold in him yet.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Coleman is playing this weekend.

 

[kittenmittens]

Traded Freeman yesterday for Alshon. Not exactly a windfall.

I bought him for Devonte Adams straight up, 12 team ppr dynasty.

I'm not totally sold in him yet.

Are you saying you are shocked that I did well getting him for Adams and that the other dude got Alshon for him?

I think Alshon is worth at least 2 Devante Adams' right now, but dynasty player value is pretty subjective as this thread pretty well illustrates I suppose.

 

[shadyridr]

Traded Freeman yesterday for Alshon. Not exactly a windfall.

oof

 

[RealReactions]

Traded Freeman yesterday for Alshon. Not exactly a windfall.

I don't know what to say with this even if it is or isn't redraft. I own Alshon in redraft and who knows when this guy sees the field again but i just don't trust Freeman either. So who knows what you got.

I bought him for Devonte Adams straight up, 12 team ppr dynasty.

I'm not totally sold in him yet.

This i actually like somewhat but who knows with Adams he always seems injured and TY is right behind him.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Coleman is playing this weekend.

Yep, in a tough run defense matchup (thus far) to boot. Will be interesting.

 

[avina1]

Coleman is playing this weekend.

Yep, in a tough run defense matchup (thus far) to boot. Will be interesting.

game script, volume and goal-line/red-zone carries are far more indicative of fantasy points than a tough run defense. Redskins also played the Dolphins, Rams w/o Gurley, Giants, and Eagles... those teams are not exactly lighting it up with their rushing attack.

I'm interested to see if Coleman vultures Freeman at the goal-line/redzone.

 

[thatguythere]

It's odd how emotionally invested people become in FF. No one is saying that there's zero chance that a RB can improve, but I can assure you the list of guys who were mediocre (at best) their rookie years and went on to have mediocre (at best) careers is much longer than the list that includes turnarounds ala Le'Veon Bell (not to mention Bell was a better prospect to begin with).

As an owner, I'm just trying to remain objective about the situation. Two good games doesn't erase all of the poor ones, and the holes he had to run through the last two weeks were gigantic. I think he's the biggest sell-high of the year if you can get what some people in here are saying he's worth. I haven't found that to be close to reality in my leagues because most owners share my concerns, so I'll hold and hope it continues. Time will tell.

You are not getting his value at this point as people think its still a flash in the pan. I am 100% not "emotionally invested" and more than happy to move him if I could get RB1 value but who else would I even target is my issue, in PPR I am happy to hold him as I won't get anyone without as many questions if not more than Freeman. (Bell, Charles, Lacy owners are not giving them up most likely for anything less than robbery)

Also I find it even funnier how people try to continue to bash a guy when they should just move on. If you can't understand how being a backup and being injured can cause issues with production I can not help you. This week will be very telling with/without Coleman on the field if he can have another big week I think more people will have to come around and view Freeman as a top RB for 2015.

Freeman could fall flat but I am not going to short sell on his value when he has shown he can produce some monster numbers. This is not a 1 game flash and if he continues above average production this week possibly you can sell his stock for enough value to avoid the risk long term.

No, it's a two game flash.

When Coleman comes back and hits those same holes Freeman has enjoyed...then maybe some of your expectations will be tempered a bit. It's always nice to find a guy who has a break out year, but I think some of you guys need to step back and re-evaluate.

 

[Zdravko]

Bold prediction: on Monday, there will be a lot of Freeman owners trying to belatedly sell high before the RBBC fully kicks into gear again.

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

Bold prediction: on Monday, there will be a lot of Freeman owners trying to belatedly sell high before the RBBC fully kicks into gear again.

Only the first half but 11-2 touches in favor of Freeman (56-3 yardage advantage). Are you rethinking this statement?

 

[VaTerp]

Freeman is legit. I can only guess the naysayers are going off of preconceived opinions and not actually watching the games.

 

[shadyridr]

Stud

 

[Uncle Leo]

Stud

 

[Bojang0301]

Ride this train until it bucks you. Get Coleman if you can.

 

[TDorBust]

Ride this train until it bucks you. Get Coleman if you can.

For sure I would think he could be had for for a somewhat low price after the last three weeks from Freeman.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Super STUD.

 

[avina1]

this kid...

 

[humpback]

They reversed it, so lame.

ETA- doesn't matter, lol.