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After 8 AM, they finally brought Ian Rapoport on to discuss the Zeke updates. He spent about 1 minute giving updates and then they moved on to discussing Hopkins new contract. Very odd, this should be their main story right now. The only thing I took away from the update is that he said that "the nfl does believe that all evidence was made available to everyone and that the decision made by Roger Goodell to put Ezekiel Elliott on the bench for 6 games was based on all of that information." Seems to indicate Goodell knew about Kia Roberts recommendations but they didn't specifically say that.Mavis said:
Everything before this was the NFL saying its case. Did we know their lead investigator said 0 games before she testified? No, we didnt.
Yeah, they are stepping all around it with very little discussion and only providing "the info." They are not discussing it like they do everything else with opinions and what not.
Interesting, why wait until called out to talk about it?
The league has terrible PR and processes for the same reason many large companies struggle - poor leadership. It starts at the top, and this is more evidence - yet again - that Goodell is a subpar CEO.
Exactly, and I forgot who said it but it goes "If ever the answer is no, he must resign."
Then if its not his fault and he is now finding out an employee withheld evidence as she did testify under oath she did according to report, the NFL should rescind his suspension after getting new info and fire Lisa, if he doesnt, he is still ultimately 100% the guy at fault...he imposed the suspension.
It was said under oath according to reports as she was the one that they waited for to show up on Thursday and why the hearing took 3 days.
Brilliantly put together in that case, because it gives Goodell a built in opportunity to make her take the fall, letting him overturn the suspension and letting Goodell save face publicly.
Touche, I said I wouldnt even shake the mans hand because of this...but if the investigator who investigated and interviewed the accuser and then recommended 0 games, I have to assume Zeke did nothing. Guess jumping to conclusions gets the best of us, including the commish of the NFL.
Reading this, what was the evidence? Saying all of it when nothing is really evidence is absurd. This is not gonna end well for the NFL front office.
Huh. I still think Zeke did *something* but more importantly there simply isn't enough fact-based, verifiable, compelling evidence to prove - even at the lower threshold of a civil rather than criminal case - that Elliott beat up Thompson.
I'm with your belief and needless to say women beaters are trash.
He did, according to reports. Also, the investigator that had access to those phots in charge of leading this entire investigation saw those pictures and still came to 0 games. Why was that, are you suggesting that you have some information the investigator didnt? Because if you do i would love to see it.
Not that simple. Amusing some people think its this simple, especially since the suit is about procedure. The evidence discussion is some of peoples personal beliefs...and yes, there was lack of evidence according to the lead investigator for the NFL.
So, Zeke's defense team is trying to get him off because of supposed procedural violations, NOT because he truly is innocent?? Seems to me, the 4 people that reviewed the NFL's case were ALL in agreement, that there was substantial enough evidence to warrant a suspension. Yet, the defense team wants to get him off on basically a technicality. You stay classy defense lawyers.
Except for the lead investigator, but you would have known that if you read the thread maybe just a smidge more clearly.
Except......the NFL has already doubled down and said that Goodell knew everything. Unreal. What a bunch of clowns running that show.
Because they can't have it overturned that way at this point. The ONLY option they have is procedural.
By definition you can not have a conspiracy involving only one person. Wonder if they are trying to claim Goodell did know.
How do I become one of these?
While they are a clown show, in this situation, they HAD to say Goodell had all info. They dont want to lose power in court (main reason they re-appealed the Brady case). If Goodell claims to have known everything, he was still within his rights to suspend him. If he didn't have all the info, then the NFLPA's claim of procedural errors has merit. The courts can't over turn the suspension because they think it's not fair, only on procedural grounds. Unless the NFLPA can prove procedural errors, this doesn't really help Zeke in the courts.
What are you reading here, or elsewhere, that says that's the most likely scenario?
So, let me see if I understand this...because the lead investigator supposedly saw no evidence to warrant a suspension, but the 4 people that reviewed the case(and said the NFL did a very thorough, complete job) saw OVERWHELMING evidence to warrant a 6 game suspension, the lead investigator's findings should over rule the 4 that reviewed the case?? Doesn't it seem odd, that 4 people would find overwhelming evidence, yet one, found virtually none?? Something doesn't pass the smell test here..how can 4 people's opinions differ so greatly from one?? Perhaps, the one had an agenda?? Who knows, but even if she didn't think a suspension was warranted, doesn't mean Goodell has to go with what she says, and obviously he didn't.
Perjury is a crime punishable by jail regardless if its in a court of law or in arbitration.
This is not to insult you by any means, but to answer your first line... No, I dont think you are understanding this.
I'm pretty sure the quote I posted was just referring to a statement or press/release. IF the NFL is lying, that's not perjury.
Right and if I'm one of those guys I'm not dying on that hill. If they didn't tell RG everything then they F'ed up and should accept any potential consequences (i.e. giving Zeke's team the ammo it needs). Lying about it after the fact to try and close that loop hole seems incredibly stupid.
