JohnnyU
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Best thing that could happen to him. I believe in him.
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RB Israel Abanikanda, SF (1 Viewer)
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socrates
Footballguy
You are probably right. I liked Abanikanda heading into last season's NFL draft, but it killed his value landing with the Jets, and then the Jets went and drafted both Braelon Allen and Isaiah Davis this year. Curious moves that signal that the Jets do not value Izzy. Even if he gets released by the Jets, it is hard to envision him finding a meaningful role elsewhere any time soon.
Rumor has it it’s because he didn’t want none unless it had buns.
For real though he could compete for decent role with quite a few teams.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Seems a lot of us (including myself) like Izzy more than the Jets do apparently. Thought it was really telling that they went and drafted not one but two RB's.
If Izzy were to get moved to the Giants or Cowboys, he would immediately be my favorite RB in those RB rooms and a priority stash.
If Izzy were to get moved to the Giants or Cowboys, he would immediately be my favorite RB in those RB rooms and a priority stash.
I saw this and reactions.x.com
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I've got Braelon as a probable short yardage back.
Davis and Izzy as third strings wanting to take Braelon's reps.
What if Hall gets hurt?
Well I've got Braelon's role the same at minimum and everyone possibly more reps so he's the guy I've been drafting.
I like the interviews and highlights of Izzy but where did this confidence in a Jets backup RB come from? People on X are on this like Shanahan's backs of years ago
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m thinking I was wrong about him.
Jets running back Israel Abanikanda did not get any reps with the first-team or second-team offense during Friday's OTAs, according to Jets reporter Brandyn Pokrass. Pokrass said he is falling down the depth chart and could be a cut or trade candidate this offseason. Following Abanikanda's 1431-yard, 20-touchdown rushing season in 2022 at Pittsburgh, he was selected by New York in the fifth round of the 2023 NFL Draft. As a rookie, he rushed just six times for 22 yards and caught six passes for 11 yards. After New York drafted Wisconsin running back Braelon Allen(fourth round) and South Dakota State running back Isaiah Davis (fifth round) in April's draft, the writing was on the wall for the 21-year-old speedster. Fantasy managers in deep dynasty leagues can consider continuing to stash Abanikanda, but he's unlikely to make an impact in 2024.--Jackson Sparks - RotoBaller
Jets running back Israel Abanikanda did not get any reps with the first-team or second-team offense during Friday's OTAs, according to Jets reporter Brandyn Pokrass. Pokrass said he is falling down the depth chart and could be a cut or trade candidate this offseason. Following Abanikanda's 1431-yard, 20-touchdown rushing season in 2022 at Pittsburgh, he was selected by New York in the fifth round of the 2023 NFL Draft. As a rookie, he rushed just six times for 22 yards and caught six passes for 11 yards. After New York drafted Wisconsin running back Braelon Allen(fourth round) and South Dakota State running back Isaiah Davis (fifth round) in April's draft, the writing was on the wall for the 21-year-old speedster. Fantasy managers in deep dynasty leagues can consider continuing to stash Abanikanda, but he's unlikely to make an impact in 2024.--Jackson Sparks - RotoBaller
eighsse2
Footballguy
How is this report different from the one earlier to you?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Really? Who cares. My take from all of this is that it appears I was wrong about him and was too high on him prior to last year's draft. The NFL tells us what we need to know on players if we would just listen.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed. From many reports, Izzy seems like he can run the ball, but is deficient in a lot of the other areas of the position (like blocking/pass catching, as jwb notes). Unless you’re a truly special runner, that’s not going to get you on the field.
Not sure about his special teams duties, which is probably the only thing to save him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
my 3.12 his rookie season - seems like a wasted pick, languishing on my TS.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Is he a drop if you don't have any other Jet RB?
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massraider
Footballguy
When Braelon Allen was drafted in the 3rd round, that was it for Izzy. He was always a bet on traits, it wasn't like he was this gifted slippery back that needs a chance.
Big swing on a silly athlete, but he's not even a roster spots consideration for me right now.
Big swing on a silly athlete, but he's not even a roster spots consideration for me right now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm still not seeing him hit the waiver wire, even after all my rookie drafts. I suppose people are still a little bit stubborn. Any chance he gets cut and picked up by someone else that may value him more?
eighsse2
Footballguy
For reference, in our 12-team 20-man league (only start six offensive players total), I offered him to the Hall owner for the 38th overall pick, which is borderline worthless in our league, and he turned it down. He will certainly be a cut for me, barring some crazy turn of events.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
If he's cut and picked up by someone with a path, that alone will keep him rostered for awhile. He's probably another DeWayne McBride.
jwb
Footballguy
They drafted two guys, which says a lot. Still, nothing is certain. I'm still holding in one league but he's probably my first to go when something more interesting comes along.
I had him on two teams, both Breece Hall teams, and I ended up cutting him at the March 31st cut deadline. I did not feel great about cutting him at the time and when I did I thought he's someone I might try and re-draft in the third round range. After they drafted those two other RB's I no longer had remorse about cutting him or any interest in trying to draft him back.
I said this somewhere before and will say again but it's possible that Joe Douglass drafting those two RB's was more of a reflection of how high he was on them then how low he was on IA. Reason I say this is a few weeks before the NFL draft I heard Daniel Jeremiah, who is good friends with Joe D, comment that there is no consensus opinion among teams on the rookie RB class and then he said there is one team he talked to and like his 11th and 12th ranked RB's were atop their board, and then he specifically said RB's like Braelon Allen and Isiah Davis. I can't help but think he was talking about a convo he had with Joe D.
Anyway to me it's over for him as a Jet, if he sticks on that roster he'll languise like Denzel Mims. If you are still rostering him you got to be hoping some other team values his youth and strong athletic profile and will want to acquire him one way or another. I'll be interested again if that happens, but none of that is worth messing with right now.
I said this somewhere before and will say again but it's possible that Joe Douglass drafting those two RB's was more of a reflection of how high he was on them then how low he was on IA. Reason I say this is a few weeks before the NFL draft I heard Daniel Jeremiah, who is good friends with Joe D, comment that there is no consensus opinion among teams on the rookie RB class and then he said there is one team he talked to and like his 11th and 12th ranked RB's were atop their board, and then he specifically said RB's like Braelon Allen and Isiah Davis. I can't help but think he was talking about a convo he had with Joe D.
Anyway to me it's over for him as a Jet, if he sticks on that roster he'll languise like Denzel Mims. If you are still rostering him you got to be hoping some other team values his youth and strong athletic profile and will want to acquire him one way or another. I'll be interested again if that happens, but none of that is worth messing with right now.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I don’t disagree with your premise, but just to clarify Braelon Allen was selected with the 2nd to last pick in the 4th round.
Balco
Footballguy
Without a doubt worth the waiver pickup in re-drafts (and in dynasty).
I think he is better than Guerendo.
jtd13
Footballguy
I had no faab left for Guerendo in redraft, but I also have the bye locked up and am looking for w16-17 upside. I grabbed Abanikanda as an upside play then.
Also got him for $14/$150 in dynasty (next closest bid was $11)
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I'm slightly intrigued for dynasty if there's any reasonable possibility of outshining and usurping Guerendo. But should I be giving up on guys like Roschon, McLaughlin, D. Pierce, Tucker, Vidal ?
Probably more likely to be a one-week anomaly in these fantasy playoffs than to actually resuscitate meaningful dynasty value going forward?
Probably more likely to be a one-week anomaly in these fantasy playoffs than to actually resuscitate meaningful dynasty value going forward?
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Sure, but if you're plugging Abanikanda into your week 14 lineup needing a win, I probably have more pressing concerns than Taylor.
Would probably put my bets on Taylor for week 14 if both are active.
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well, I dont think the Jets are a very well run organization. so if a player who looks talented doesnt work out there, thats likely a statement on the team as much as it is on him.
not saying he is blameless. but I think when you have a player with talent, you try to make that talent work out. Good organizations find a way. the bad ones give up on players and let them become stars on other teams.
which may be the case here.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don’t think Abanikanda is going to provide Week 14 or 15 returns unless there’s an injury. I think he’s there as insurance and as a practice squad candidate. The 49ers cycle highly athletic profiles through their system and see if they can get a hit that somebody else missed on.
The Jets know their backfield. Their backfield is one of the best in the NFL. Hall, Allen, and Davis are all very good (Davis is probably the biggest question mark there). I think that if the Jets knew Hall’s injury was serious, they would have placed him on IR and called up Abanikanda. That’s my guess as a Jets homer. But Izzy couldn’t stick and they chose Bam Knight to sign, so maybe that is incorrect. If so, the Jets are the ones you have to trust. They’ve seen him. Now, as Ray_T points out, the Jets are in such turmoil that they’re not well-run anymore. Woody Johnson is calling the shots, or an interim GM is. So this might be a huge mistake by them. Or it might be in keeping with what they’ve seen from Abanikanda over the past few years.
I’m wondering if too big a deal isn’t being made of Abanikanda’s athleticism. I don’t think he runs through contact very well, which is something Mason and McCaffrey certainly brought to table, Mason in droves of it. But we’ll see if the 49ers can’t find a diamond in the rough here. I liked Izzy coming out of college. He’s got legitimate quicks, although he isn’t as fast as Guerendo is.
Anyway, hold on to your hats. Guerendo, Sincere McCormick, Braelon Allen, Isaiah Davis—all these guys are going to factor into the fantasy playoffs in some meaningful way upcoming. Buckle up.
The Jets know their backfield. Their backfield is one of the best in the NFL. Hall, Allen, and Davis are all very good (Davis is probably the biggest question mark there). I think that if the Jets knew Hall’s injury was serious, they would have placed him on IR and called up Abanikanda. That’s my guess as a Jets homer. But Izzy couldn’t stick and they chose Bam Knight to sign, so maybe that is incorrect. If so, the Jets are the ones you have to trust. They’ve seen him. Now, as Ray_T points out, the Jets are in such turmoil that they’re not well-run anymore. Woody Johnson is calling the shots, or an interim GM is. So this might be a huge mistake by them. Or it might be in keeping with what they’ve seen from Abanikanda over the past few years.
I’m wondering if too big a deal isn’t being made of Abanikanda’s athleticism. I don’t think he runs through contact very well, which is something Mason and McCaffrey certainly brought to table, Mason in droves of it. But we’ll see if the 49ers can’t find a diamond in the rough here. I liked Izzy coming out of college. He’s got legitimate quicks, although he isn’t as fast as Guerendo is.
Anyway, hold on to your hats. Guerendo, Sincere McCormick, Braelon Allen, Isaiah Davis—all these guys are going to factor into the fantasy playoffs in some meaningful way upcoming. Buckle up.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
From what l’ve heard, Abanikanda is a good fit for the one-cut run scheme that Shanny runs in SF. I’ve heard someone comp him to Mostert. Might just be a better scheme fit for the Niners than he was for the Jets. In any case I hope we get to see what he looks like in game action.
rockaction
Footballguy
All great points right here.
Well run teams are fluid on the WW while lesser teams cycle thru their same players.
This could just be "let's check this guy out."
I've picked him up because enough people loved the guy predraft but look at the Lions signing Jamal Adams and Chiefs probably signing CB Nelson. This is what good teams do. He could just be "let's bring him to camp next year" after this.
This could just be "let's check this guy out."
I've picked him up because enough people loved the guy predraft but look at the Lions signing Jamal Adams and Chiefs probably signing CB Nelson. This is what good teams do. He could just be "let's bring him to camp next year" after this.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Was he even active? When the top two backs are injured, and three backs get touches, and you're not one of them, that's pretty indicative of where you stand. Then again, I guess even if the 49ers do plan to give him any work, a few days is not much time to prepare, he would need to learn the playbook.
to my knowledge San fran signed 2 RB to the practice roster. I dont think either was activated. and even if they were, they had almost zero time to learn the playbook. I wouldnt expect them to play even if they were active. they need at least a week or two before they know enough of the plays and playbook to have any chance to make an impact.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Yep. Would have been hard pressed to learn the playbook in a couple days. Thursday turnaround is tough but if guerendo is done due to the foot I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts mixing in next week. Patrick Taylor doesn’t look very good in what I’ve seen of him, so I would guess there’s a mid-double digit percentage shot at taking the job for the rest of the season if he’s effective with what he’s initially given
There have been occasions where the new team tells the RB hit this hole, hit that one, in the huddle.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
I’m also presuming they care more about keeping Purdy upright than running the offense through their 5th string RB, and that protections are a bit more complex than the which hole to hit stuff. But yeah, if they’d needed him yesterday it might have looked different, and the fact it didn’t may not be a negative but certainly isn’t a positive.
That said, he was free and I could see a realistic path to value so I snapped him up last week as a “why the heck not”
Absolutely
sure, that does happen, but nothing compares to actually seeing the play in practice. I am sure that they will know a good portion of the base offense by the time next week rolls around. and whoever learns the offense the quickest is likely the person who looks best in practice and who likely gets promoted for the game next week.
Yes and he's playing for one of the most commonly duplicated offenses too. Maybe he even knew some before he got there. It's all a good possibility
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Probably, in the sense that it appears whomever starts a game for SF at RB winds up on IR.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Maybe. I think Taylor is ahead of him on the depth chart. He’s been on my taxi squad on 1 dynasty roster since I drafted him.
While I’m excited go see him maybe get some touches with SF, unless I’d received a direct phone call from Kyle Shanahan telling me that Izzy is going to get ~15 touches, ain’t no way I’d bet my week 1 playoff on him.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Probably not in redraft and just barely in dynasty, but will buried next year. If you have deep rosters, knock yourself out.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That said, go Izzy go! Impress someone! Get you a job next year!
zamboni
Footballguy
As with Taylor or even Vaughn, I’d be cautious picking Izzy up unless you’re planning on using him Thursday. After a 10 day rest, Guerendo could very well be back the following week and you may have the opportunity cost of not picking someone else up that could emerge after this weekend.
I think it depends where your team is at. if you already have good depth at RB I dont know that I'd jump at this, but in one of my leagues I have a team that has been decimated with season ending injuries and I have a need at RB. so I'll try to pick him up in that league. but hes not a guy you would start. hes a bench stash on the hope he becomes the starter in the next couple games.
if you need a guy this week to play, I dont think hes your guy unless San Fran announces hes starting.
zamboni
Footballguy
Even if Shanahan comes out and says Izzy is starting (which he would probably never do), you have to ask yourself if you trust that he would get the lion's share of carries over Taylor and Vaughn (if active). That's a big leap of faith with the fantasy season on the line.
