RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (8 Viewers)

[msudaisy26]

It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win.

This is another short sighted statement. Not all 16's are created equal. Is the dealer showing a 4 or a 10? That also gets factored into the equation. Equating always/never hitting on 16 with no other info is the same as treating "all these late round QB's the same". If you don't factor in other factors (like what the dealer has) into your process then you are shorting yourself.

It isn't short sighted I forgot to put in there against a 7 or higher.

 

[msudaisy26]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

 

[Chaka]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

CHESTER TAYLOR LEAGUE DOMINATOR!!!

See? I still get value from remembering that. Thank you, sincerely.

 

[BlackCrowes]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

 

[msudaisy26]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

Okay, Sean Tucker fell and went undrafted.

I came in here and offered my opinion. Just sharing my experiences. I have even said it has been wrong sometimes, but I am not trying to convince you or anyone else to do what I would do.

You and others are doing the exact opposite and doing everything you can to convince me that you have all the answers and you are no doubt correct. If you are so right, why are you here and not making millions in fantasy or sports betting?

Let it go, I gave you reasons, comps, etc and you won't just let me play fantasy my way. It has been very successful for me.

 

[WVU Alum]

I heard that Bill worked out with Superman his senior year off of football. Bill bet Superman that he (Superman) couldn’t tackle him (Bill). The loser had to wear their underwear on the outside of their pants for the rest of their life.

 

[Chaka]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

I'm still waiting to hear why he slipped to the 7th round.

 

[msudaisy26]

I heard that Bill worked out with Superman his senior year off of football. Bill bet Superman that he (Superman) couldn’t tackle him (Bill). The loser had to wear their underwear on the outside of their pants for the rest of their life.

Chuck Norris would be proud.

 

[BlackCrowes]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

I'm still waiting to hear why he slipped to the 7th round.

he was ruled ineligible after one game of his senior year due to an odd redshirt rule and his jersey number

 

[BlackCrowes]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

Okay, Sean Tucker fell and went undrafted.

I came in here and offered my opinion. Just sharing my experiences. I have even said it has been wrong sometimes, but I am not trying to convince you or anyone else to do what I would do.

You and others are doing the exact opposite and doing everything you can to convince me that you have all the answers and you are no doubt correct. If you are so right, why are you here and not making millions in fantasy or sports betting?

Let it go, I gave you reasons, comps, etc and you won't just let me play fantasy my way. It has been very successful for me.

lol. ok.

 

[Gally]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

except your analytics don't seem to include WHY he slipped to the 7th round.

I'm still waiting to hear why he slipped to the 7th round.

He slipped because nobody could figure out how to properly spell his name to put it on the pick card. It took Washington 7 rounds to finally figure it out.

 

[msudaisy26]

Going way back Maurice Clarrett missed his final year of college ball after he challenged the NFL rule of three years out of high school to enter the draft. He fell because of it and never amounted to anything in the league. He would have been a high pick.

On the flip side Bo Jackson was a late pick that sat out a year because he refused to play for Tampa. He was awesome until he got hurt.

 

[Gally]

Going way back Maurice Clarrett missed his final year of college ball after he challenged the NFL rule of three years out of high school to enter the draft. He fell because of it and never amounted to anything in the league. He would have been a high pick.

On the flip side Bo Jackson was a late pick that sat out a year because he refused to play for Tampa. He was awesome until he got hurt.

What do either of those examples have to do with JCM today?

 

[msudaisy26]

Going way back Maurice Clarrett missed his final year of college ball after he challenged the NFL rule of three years out of high school to enter the draft. He fell because of it and never amounted to anything in the league. He would have been a high pick.

On the flip side Bo Jackson was a late pick that sat out a year because he refused to play for Tampa. He was awesome until he got hurt.

What do either of those examples have to do with JCM today?

They both fell in the draft.

 

[Gally]

Going way back Maurice Clarrett missed his final year of college ball after he challenged the NFL rule of three years out of high school to enter the draft. He fell because of it and never amounted to anything in the league. He would have been a high pick.

On the flip side Bo Jackson was a late pick that sat out a year because he refused to play for Tampa. He was awesome until he got hurt.

What do either of those examples have to do with JCM today?

They both fell in the draft.

Bo fell because he was playing baseball and nobody thought he would play football. That has nothing to do with JCM's situation.

Clarrett also had some off field issues that contributed to his fall from grace and never meeting his expectations. Not a similar case to JCM at all.

I don't get the connection or why you think these have anything to do with how JCM will do moving forward.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Giddy up JCM!

Commanders RB Chris Rodriguez (calf) did not practice on Thursday.
It’s the first we’re hearing about an injury for Rodriguez, who took most of the snaps on Washington’s final drive as they tried to close things out against Atlanta with a big lead. We already knew that “Bill” would be a massive favorite for snaps this week, but a Rodriguez injury could push his Croskey-Merritt’s ceiling even higher against the Bears in Week 6.

If CRod can’t go (and a Thursday calf injury is never a good thing in my experience) then JCM is gonna see ~65-75% of the touches.

 

[WVU Alum]

This is the week that Bill fully morphs into LaDanian.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

This is the week that Bill fully morphs into LaDanian.

I’m not holding my breath but if it happens I’ll be psyched.

 

[fatness]

Giddy up JCM!

Commanders RB Chris Rodriguez (calf) did not practice on Thursday.
It’s the first we’re hearing about an injury for Rodriguez, who took most of the snaps on Washington’s final drive as they tried to close things out against Atlanta with a big lead. We already knew that “Bill” would be a massive favorite for snaps this week, but a Rodriguez injury could push his Croskey-Merritt’s ceiling even higher against the Bears in Week 6.

If CRod can’t go (and a Thursday calf injury is never a good thing in my experience) then JCM is gonna see ~65-75% of the touches.

He may get that many touches, but Washington is going to need a 3rd RB for the game. Going into a game with only 2 active RB's is risky.

 

[Jewell]

Washington is going to need a 3rd RB for the game. Going into a game with only 2 active RB's is risky.

True, but Washington could probably work around an in-game emergency RB situation better than most teams because they have Deebo. They could always give him more designed runs if necessary. I doubt Washington wants to wear too much tread off Deebo’s tires, though.

 

[dgreen]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

Yeah, I mentioned the eye test above. He passes mine with flying colors.

The chunk yards he churns out, and the consistency with which he does it are especially telling.

He’s got some juice.

 

[msudaisy26]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

I did see play against the Chargers towards the end of the game and it looked good, but the Commanders were imposing their will and the Chargers looked like the quit that game.

I also seen the Vegas game and wasn't overly impressed even though it was a small sample.

It is just a dynasty rule I follow. In redraft I rarley draft a wr after round 11. Do I miss on guys like Puka his rookie year? Sure, but the amount of tight ends and running backs that hit in those rounds is way higher than wr.

 

[Alpha Dawgs]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

I did see play against the Chargers towards the end of the game and it looked good, but the Commanders were imposing their will and the Chargers looked like the quit that game.

I also seen the Vegas game and wasn't overly impressed even though it was a small sample.

It is just a dynasty rule I follow. In redraft I rarley draft a wr after round 11. Do I miss on guys like Puka his rookie year? Sure, but the amount of tight ends and running backs that hit in those rounds is way higher than wr.

Bill is the real deal! Expect 15-20 PPR per game going forward.

 

[msudaisy26]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

I did see play against the Chargers towards the end of the game and it looked good, but the Commanders were imposing their will and the Chargers looked like the quit that game.

I also seen the Vegas game and wasn't overly impressed even though it was a small sample.

It is just a dynasty rule I follow. In redraft I rarley draft a wr after round 11. Do I miss on guys like Puka his rookie year? Sure, but the amount of tight ends and running backs that hit in those rounds is way higher than wr.

Bill is the real deal! Expect 15-20 PPR per game going forward.

I would be amazed if he is a top 5 back rest of the season.

 

[Alpha Dawgs]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

Bill is a lot more like J Gibbs than Morris. His favorite RB that he would like to model his game on is B Sanders who I believe is one of the most dynamic RB's ever.

 

[Ray Barboni]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

Bill is a lot more like J Gibbs than Morris. His favorite RB that he would like to model his game on is B Sanders who I believe is one of the most dynamic RB's ever.

Gibbs? Ok .. now you’ve gone too far brother.

I guess since you prefaced it with “more like” maybe your safe - but let’s not get crazy. He’s nothing like Gibbs, nor is he like Morris (aside from draft capitol)

I’m not sure who I would compare him to yet - Ken Walker?

 

[Chaka]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

Bill is a lot more like J Gibbs than Morris. His favorite RB that he would like to model his game on is B Sanders who I believe is one of the most dynamic RB's ever.

Gibbs? Ok .. now you’ve gone too far brother.

I guess since you prefaced it with “more like” maybe your safe - but let’s not get crazy. He’s nothing like Gibbs, nor is he like Morris (aside from draft capitol)

I’m not sure who I would compare him to yet - Ken Walker?

He looks like a cross between Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders and Bill Brasky to me.

 

[dmac37]

I just joined the Bill club in dynasty . I don't usually believe in late round RB's but I'm willing to gamble that this guy hits. I think he will still need to earn his stripes and it may take some weeks but I can see the take over coming and then .

 

[Ray Barboni]

I just joined the Bill club in dynasty . I don't usually believe in late round RB's but I'm willing to gamble that this guy hits. I think he will still need to earn his stripes and it may take some weeks but I can see the take over coming and then .

… you’re supposed to tell us what you gave up, for the best RB ever

 

[dmac37]

I just joined the Bill club in dynasty . I don't usually believe in late round RB's but I'm willing to gamble that this guy hits. I think he will still need to earn his stripes and it may take some weeks but I can see the take over coming and then .

… you’re supposed to tell us what you gave up, for the best RB ever

May be an overpay at this stage, what should be a late 1st and 4th.

 

[Ray Barboni]

I just joined the Bill club in dynasty . I don't usually believe in late round RB's but I'm willing to gamble that this guy hits. I think he will still need to earn his stripes and it may take some weeks but I can see the take over coming and then .

… you’re supposed to tell us what you gave up, for the best RB ever

May be an overpay at this stage, what should be a late 1st and 4th.

Nice gamble. I can see the value in both sides. I’m assuming you’re a contender - so the other guy is selling high.

I prefer the 1st and 4th on paper. But, I don’t slight you for taking your shot at all.

If Bill progresses and turns into what some think? Excellent trade. Also, that 1st could be the next Egbuka.

Nice trade for the both of you, imo

 

[dmac37]

I just joined the Bill club in dynasty . I don't usually believe in late round RB's but I'm willing to gamble that this guy hits. I think he will still need to earn his stripes and it may take some weeks but I can see the take over coming and then .

… you’re supposed to tell us what you gave up, for the best RB ever

May be an overpay at this stage, what should be a late 1st and 4th.

Nice gamble. I can see the value in both sides. I’m assuming you’re a contender - so the other guy is selling high.

I prefer the 1st and 4th on paper. But, I don’t slight you for taking your shot at all.

If Bill progresses and turns into what some think? Excellent trade. Also, that 1st could be the next Egbuka.

Nice trade for the both of you, imo

I got into this crazy hobby for a couple of reasons- being the GM for something I really love and the drive to WIN, making some money (which thankfully I have been able to do to some degree) now as I get older, add to just lean into the fun aspect and go for it at times.

 

[SieteCinco]

I already said he maybe the exception, but I treat all these late round rbs the same in dynasty. It is like playing blackjack and never hitting on 16. You will win sometimes, but over the long haul you will lose more than you win. For every Arian Foster there are five Chester Taylors. It isn't my rule the NFL does it.

I understand this approach but, I think it is a little too clinical. I guess if you are one of those people who view fantasy football as a side hustle (I think we have a couple people here who earn a living from it) then, by all means continue that approach.

But for the vast majority of us it's a fun hobby and the sheer pleasure of unearthing a Jamal Anderson, Arian Foster or Priest Holmes (Edleman, Colston etc) has a different kind of and, in some ways far greater value than just on field performance.

I'm holding JCM because it makes me happy that he might emerge, even for one season as a league winner.

That is totally fine. I prefer a more analytical approach.

Just curious, how much have you watched him play this year? I think a big factor for those of us who are high on him is how he looks when he runs. Considering draft round 5 games into someone's career is definitely reasonable. However, a lot of us are watching him and see a special runner and a capable receiver in an offense that should be friendly to a talented RB. Draft status and pass protection are his two negatives and we are seeing his positives (objective analytics, subjective eye test, and assumptions about his team situation) pile up quickly.

I think of the type of production Alfred Morris had in DC as a 6th round pick. Like Bill has Daniels, Morris had RG3 and a promising system. But, as RG3 declined, so did Morris. Because Morris was never that talented. He was a late-round talent. He made the most of the read option and so much attention going to RG3. Bill has that with Daniels, but also is more skilled than Morris so I think there's a decent chance his career surpasses Morris'.

Bill is a lot more like J Gibbs than Morris. His favorite RB that he would like to model his game on is B Sanders who I believe is one of the most dynamic RB's ever.

Gibbs? Ok .. now you’ve gone too far brother.

I guess since you prefaced it with “more like” maybe your safe - but let’s not get crazy. He’s nothing like Gibbs, nor is he like Morris (aside from draft capitol)

I’m not sure who I would compare him to yet - Ken Walker?

I see what he’s seeing with the Gibbs reference. I was saying the same thing to someone last week.

They both make a lot of subtle change of direction and micro movements without losing speed that most RBs simply can’t. Both, when in tight quarters, look like they’re moving at a speed that’s faster than others on the field.

Gibbs is obviously a lot faster in the open field, different body type, etc, but they move similarly in some situations.

 

[Ray_T]

So, you want us to trade away the guy that is top three in almost all PFF categories because he was a 7th rounder? I’ll take my chances.

I agree, of course it all depends on what you can get. I think people are still leery, so the return is still fairly low in my parts. I will take the current production upside and see if that value rises before jumping ship. Right now his cost was basically nothing, so happy to see what happens with the risk that it doesn’t work out. Right now it is hard visually to see any concerns and his rushing grades are off the charts. If he keeps it up I am not sure why WAS would have any reason to allocate high resources to the position they are getting production from at a cheap rate when they can invest in other more important areas.

when people ask me if certain players are untradeable I say nobody is untradeable. but some of them have a very very high price. likely higher than you are willing to pay. but if you provide a sufficiently good offer, nobody is untradeable.

that is the attitude you need to have.

that also does not mean you are actively trying to trade these guys. I am fully aware its likley not in anyones interest to trade for my best player. but if they wanna make an offer it better be too good to walk away from if they actually expect to get a trade done.

 

[ponchsox]

Rough game for Bill against the worst run defense. Looks like he was benched late in the game?

 

[jobarules]

Rough game for Bill against the worst run defense. Looks like he was benched late in the game?

He was in on the play daniels fumbled

 

[Faust]

Underdog NFL
Bill Croskey-Merritt on his fumbles last 2 games, via @NickiJhabvala:

"I still got a lot of confidence in myself and I just got to be better at my job, and that'll get fixed for sure."

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1977952842024439816?s=61

 

[warpig33]

In the post game presser, Daniels took responsibility for the fumble. I didn't watch the game. How did the stats play out? Did they charge it to Daniels or Bill? Could be good teammates not throwing each other under the bus, which I'm totally all in on, both players seem to be class acts. Just curious who's fault it really is.

 

[ponchsox]

In the post game presser, Daniels took responsibility for the fumble. I didn't watch the game. How did the stats play out? Did they charge it to Daniels or Bill? Could be good teammates not throwing each other under the bus, which I'm totally all in on, both players seem to be class acts. Just curious who's fault it really is.

It was a shaky handoff to begin with.

 

[jobarules]

In the post game presser, Daniels took responsibility for the fumble. I didn't watch the game. How did the stats play out? Did they charge it to Daniels or Bill? Could be good teammates not throwing each other under the bus, which I'm totally all in on, both players seem to be class acts. Just curious who's fault it really is.

It was 100% on Daniels. But JCM fumbled earlier

 

[pinkstapler]

In the post game presser, Daniels took responsibility for the fumble. I didn't watch the game. How did the stats play out? Did they charge it to Daniels or Bill? Could be good teammates not throwing each other under the bus, which I'm totally all in on, both players seem to be class acts. Just curious who's fault it really is.

It was a shaky handoff to begin with.

It was more like a volleyball set than a handoff for sure. If the refs had to rule on it I'm sure they'd say he never actually "possessed" that ball before hot potato-ing it to JCM.

But yeah JCM had a terrible fumble earlier game script wise. Hate saying it cost them the game because there are dozens of plays every game we could say that about; but it was certainly a huge momentum shift. It was overall a down game for him, but positive spin is they never turned away from using him as the lead back.

I think my biggest reason for not seeing JCM as an RB1 at this point is more his complete lack of usage in the passing game. Nearly every single league anymore has some type of PPR scoring; if a guy is going to be a top 12 RB in fantasy despite averaging less than 2 targets a week in the passing game, he needs to.... well basically he needs to be Derrick Henry lol. And regardless of how talented you think he is, I don't think even the rosiest of tinted glasses is seeing Derrick Henry when they watch him. Still a great hit for his drafters, and would be starting nearly every week on most fantasy rosters. But if I could flip him for a 2027 1st I would. I just don't think anyone who doesn't own him values him that highly, at least not what I've seen.

In before owners "well I'd never sell him for that either!" lol. I get it, he's a hold. Just saying there is always a bit of value disparity caused by ownership bias, but that disparity with Bill is a lot wider than others IMO. He's a dynasty darling right now and likely not getting moved.

 

[Payne]

Not too worried. He got the volume. Deebo banged up, no Terry. This offense will improve as will Bill's opportunities.

 

[MCFootball123]

Not too worried. He got the volume. Deebo banged up, no Terry. This offense will improve as will Bill's opportunities.

Agreed. No better time to buy Bill. Unfortunate result last night in overall fantasy points, but Chicago played pretty solid run D. Good sign they went right back to him after the fumble. He has officially taken over this backfield, and I believe his 3rd down snap share will only increase as he grows. Kingsbury alluded to this last week. This offense gets healthy and things should take off.

 

[Football Jones]

If you're a believer in dynasty, this would be the right time to try to acquire Bill if you own Skat (and prefer Bill over Skat). You might be able to get something else added on your end, as well.

 

[barackdhouse]

In the post game presser, Daniels took responsibility for the fumble. I didn't watch the game. How did the stats play out? Did they charge it to Daniels or Bill? Could be good teammates not throwing each other under the bus, which I'm totally all in on, both players seem to be class acts. Just curious who's fault it really is.

that last fumble was 100% on Daniels. And as was pointed out before, you can't fumble what you never possessed. The slow motion replay showed it slip out of Daniels hands and then he kind of batted it thru the air into Bill's chest.

the earlier fumble occured when Bill tried to do a spin move in the backfield with only one arm on the ball. Rookie move for sure.

 

[Kiddnets]

Not a monster day and fumble was rough but I thought Bill looked great and has a lot of upside. Starting him with confidence better games to come

 

[dmac37]

What the hell was Kingsbury calling last night in the run game. Maybe it was a little different early on but every handoff to Bill that I recall was basically the same, hand it off going right up the gut, zero imagination with his usage of Bill.

 

[Banger]

What the hell was Kingsbury calling last night in the run game. Maybe it was a little different early on but every handoff to Bill that I recall was basically the same, hand it off going right up the gut, zero imagination with his usage of Bill.

ya, I thought they'd throw it to him in space at least once.

 

[BlackCrowes]

It’s Dallas time!