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RB Javonte Williams, DAL (4 Viewers)

Is anyone still buying this guy? I just think he's had 4 years to prove himself, injuries or not, he's yet to show he's more than a JAG. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders or Blue ends up outproducing given their relative ADP.
 
ffmail4me said:
Is anyone still buying this guy? I just think he's had 4 years to prove himself, injuries or not, he's yet to show he's more than a JAG. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders or Blue ends up outproducing given their relative ADP.
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He’s the DAL starting RB. He can be had as a throw in a trade. I’ll take a shot on him with the expectation that he’s a bye week fill in with some upside, especially in PPR.

Rice Dowdle was relevant there last season. I don’t think he’s much better than Javonte, if at all.
 
Blick said:
ffmail4me said:
Is anyone still buying this guy? I just think he's had 4 years to prove himself, injuries or not, he's yet to show he's more than a JAG. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders or Blue ends up outproducing given their relative ADP.
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He’s the DAL starting RB. He can be had as a throw in a trade. I’ll take a shot on him with the expectation that he’s a bye week fill in with some upside, especially in PPR.

Rice Dowdle was relevant there last season. I don’t think he’s much better than Javonte, if at all.
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I'd say Dowdle has proven as much as Williams the last few years though. Call it a push?
 
ffmail4me said:
Blick said:
ffmail4me said:
Is anyone still buying this guy? I just think he's had 4 years to prove himself, injuries or not, he's yet to show he's more than a JAG. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders or Blue ends up outproducing given their relative ADP.
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He’s the DAL starting RB. He can be had as a throw in a trade. I’ll take a shot on him with the expectation that he’s a bye week fill in with some upside, especially in PPR.

Rice Dowdle was relevant there last season. I don’t think he’s much better than Javonte, if at all.
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I'd say Dowdle has proven as much as Williams the last few years though. Call it a push?
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Sure. The hate has gone too far.
 
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Blick said:
ffmail4me said:
Blick said:
ffmail4me said:
Is anyone still buying this guy? I just think he's had 4 years to prove himself, injuries or not, he's yet to show he's more than a JAG. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders or Blue ends up outproducing given their relative ADP.
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He’s the DAL starting RB. He can be had as a throw in a trade. I’ll take a shot on him with the expectation that he’s a bye week fill in with some upside, especially in PPR.

Rice Dowdle was relevant there last season. I don’t think he’s much better than Javonte, if at all.
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I'd say Dowdle has proven as much as Williams the last few years though. Call it a push?
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Sure. The hate has gone too far.
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I agree with this. But I’m not sure yet if any of them will get enough work to be startable in fantasy
 
massraider said:
He signed a 1 year deal for 3 mill.

I'm reading that as the entire NFL thinks he has no chance of being a lead back.
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Rico Dowdle signed a 1-year $2.75M contract and he was the lead back on this team. I’m not saying Javonte is a fantasy RB1. I think he can at least be Dowdle and be a good Flex/bye week fill in and he’s basically free.

I would rather take the chance that Javonte will help my team over a 3rd round draft pick.
 
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He just turned 25 last month and he has 764 career touches in the NFL (416 in college).

He's absolutely worth taking a chance on and is easily the first Cowboys runner I would take in all fantasy formats.
 
JohnnyU said:
Chaka said:
He just turned 25 last month and he has 764 career touches in the NFL (416 in college).

He's absolutely worth taking a chance on and is easily the first Cowboys runner I would take in all fantasy formats.
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Yes, he’s 25, but in dog years.
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Lots of questions he has to answer, for sure.

I just happen to believe that his baseline talent level is better than his competition. Given another year away from the injury he's my target in the Cowboys backfield.
 
massraider said:
He signed a 1 year deal for 3 mill.

I'm reading that as the entire NFL thinks he has no chance of being a lead back.
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Very true but the counter to that if I wanted to argue for Javonte's value is the basic premise there are points/fantasy production someone has to get and his comp is a guy they signed for $1.2m and a 5th round pick with those costs both suggesting the entire NFL does not like odds of either of them being lead backs either.

Out of those investments the 5th round pick is the biggest one.

I look at Dallas lack of commitment to upgrading the RB room last year as a major negative in their team construction. I get a feeling they don't share my opinion. I think in their world I think they look at getting over 1300 yards from Rico Dowdle, another RB who the league was not that into this off-season, and feel like that justifies their approach.
 
menobrown said:
massraider said:
He signed a 1 year deal for 3 mill.

I'm reading that as the entire NFL thinks he has no chance of being a lead back.
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Very true but the counter to that if I wanted to argue for Javonte's value is the basic premise there are points/fantasy production someone has to get and his comp is a guy they signed for $1.2m and a 5th round pick with those costs both suggesting the entire NFL does not like odds of either of them being lead backs either.

Out of those investments the 5th round pick is the biggest one.

I look at Dallas lack of commitment to upgrading the RB room last year as a major negative in their team construction. I get a feeling they don't share my opinion. I think in their world I think they look at getting over 1300 yards from Rico Dowdle, another RB who the league was not that into this off-season, and feel like that justifies their approach.
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It feels like they're overcorrecting from investing so much into Zeke. Everyone gets that RB is a devalued position in the modern NFL but they have taken it to another level.
 
FreeBaGeL said:
menobrown said:
massraider said:
He signed a 1 year deal for 3 mill.

I'm reading that as the entire NFL thinks he has no chance of being a lead back.
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Very true but the counter to that if I wanted to argue for Javonte's value is the basic premise there are points/fantasy production someone has to get and his comp is a guy they signed for $1.2m and a 5th round pick with those costs both suggesting the entire NFL does not like odds of either of them being lead backs either.

Out of those investments the 5th round pick is the biggest one.

I look at Dallas lack of commitment to upgrading the RB room last year as a major negative in their team construction. I get a feeling they don't share my opinion. I think in their world I think they look at getting over 1300 yards from Rico Dowdle, another RB who the league was not that into this off-season, and feel like that justifies their approach.
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It feels like they're overcorrecting from investing so much into Zeke. Everyone gets that RB is a devalued position in the modern NFL but they have taken it to another level.
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I think that's part of it along but I think their main belief is they'd rather invest in beefing up the OL and if that's in place they can always find a few cheap RB's to churn out some production. It's not a bad premise and they can point to a few things which shows they are actually right with this approach. But the other side of that argument is they are creating a situation that's ideal to get the best out of a RB and just seeing what a stud RB behind a built up OL did for the Eagles.

What the NFL seemed to be telling people this off-season, with the Barkley/Henry big money extensions vs cold FA RB market for majority of the position, is that the only change in the RB market is for the few studs that have difference making talent. There are a few studs and everyone else. Dallas has just taken the easily replaceable mentailty to maybe a bit of an extreme.
 
Harjiran said:
I've been holding Javonte for so long, I can't cut him now. Won't cost me much - might as well see what he can do with a new team, another year removed from injury.
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This.

I have him in 3 of 4 dynasty leagues. Lands in one of the very best case scenario situations on a prove it deal. Hold and hope he can be an RB2 at best, or a flex starter at least.
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He’s the perfect guy to throw in to a deal that’s close but needs a sweetener to get it over the line. Let your trade partner believe they’re getting a volume-based RB2 for practically free. I see maybe a 5% chance that Javonte ever puts up the kind of numbers that you really miss having in your lineup or on your roster.

If you wait until this fall and he for whatever reason isn’t producing, he will be in total roster clogger, worthless territory. I’d rather get out now while he still has the hope of some short term production.
 
FWIW I'll just pass along some info that I heard on the radio a few days ago.

Cowboys beat writer with The Athletic was on local sports radio and I think he was asked to give his best guess on the Cowboys leading rusher in week one. He said he'd go Javonte, but that Blue would be the lead guy before the season is over. I think he may have wrote something like this already and he for sure is not going on much info here so take it for what it's worth.
 
Faust said:
Pat Thorman
“Javonte Williams is finally healthy, and showing why Denver was so high on him after drafting him in 2021. Right now, he’d probably be the lead dog, with Jaydon Blue (who’ll likely have a role on third down) and Phil Mafah fighting for snaps, and Miles Sanders bringing experience to the room.”
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Even when he was healthy he couldn't shake Mel Gordon his first couple seasons, I'm a little skeptical
Hope he does well
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Faust said:
Pat Thorman
“Javonte Williams is finally healthy, and showing why Denver was so high on him after drafting him in 2021. Right now, he’d probably be the lead dog, with Jaydon Blue (who’ll likely have a role on third down) and Phil Mafah fighting for snaps, and Miles Sanders bringing experience to the room.”
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Even when he was healthy he couldn't shake Mel Gordon his first couple seasons, I'm a little skeptical
Hope he does well
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Well it was his rookie year (and he out-touched Gordon as a rookie) and only 3 games of his 2nd season. JW appeared to have fully taken over in week 4 when Gordon got benched after the first series for fumbling for the 4th time in as many games. Unfortunately, that's also the game that Javonte blew his knee in the 2nd half. Javonte appeared to have taken over completely at that point though, too bad we never got to see what he might have done had he stayed healthy. Gordon got outright cut 6 games later during that same season even with Javonte out for the year so unlikely he would have been much of a threat after the benching.

That said I agree I wouldn't get too worked up about any blurbs, unfortunate but that injury seems to have ruined him. He had no burst/speed anymore these last two years in Denver, too bad as he looked good in the limited time he was healthy to start his career especially as a pass catcher.
 
I thought he could be great value a couple of weeks ago.

Soured on him before drafts for various reasons.

Week 1 overreaction, kicking myself for not taking a shot.
 
Dez said:
Just traded Javonte in a 1 QB FFPC league for a random future 2nd of a team I think might miss the playoffs. 🥹
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Not looking like such great trade right now. Traded Javonte in 2 dynasty leagues this year both for 2nd round picks.

My backs in 1 of the leagues is CMC, Judkins and Harvey..........might have been able to use Javonte right about now
 
VaTerp said:
I thought he could be great value a couple of weeks ago.

Soured on him before drafts for various reasons.

Week 1 overreaction, kicking myself for not taking a shot.
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If you drafted him he would very likely be on your bench this week though
 
Javonte Williams rushed 15 times for 54 yards and two touchdowns in the Cowboys’ Week 1 win over the Eagles, adding two receptions for 10 yards.

Williams capped each of the Cowboys’ first two drives with one-yard scoring plunges. That’s good work if you can get it. If you include passing touchdowns, it was just the third two-score effort of Williams’ checkered career. Williams did not look explosive between the tackles, but he dominated snaps and touches, a trend that will undoubtedly continue for Week 2 after Miles Sanders lost a red zone fumble this evening. That being said, we would expect rookie Jaydon Blue to make his NFL debut against the Giants after he was a “healthy scratch” this evening. Blue missed most of training camp with injury. Despite tonight’s (expected) heavy workload, Williams is still more of a FLEX than RB2 for fantasy purposes.
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Perfect sell-high opportunity IMO. He did look good, although I attribute that more to the strong push of the OL than Javonte himself. Even Sanders broke away for that long run untouched before he was caught from behind.
 
The Frankman said:
Javonte Williams rushed 15 times for 54 yards and two touchdowns in the Cowboys’ Week 1 win over the Eagles, adding two receptions for 10 yards.

Williams capped each of the Cowboys’ first two drives with one-yard scoring plunges. That’s good work if you can get it. If you include passing touchdowns, it was just the third two-score effort of Williams’ checkered career. Williams did not look explosive between the tackles, but he dominated snaps and touches, a trend that will undoubtedly continue for Week 2 after Miles Sanders lost a red zone fumble this evening. That being said, we would expect rookie Jaydon Blue to make his NFL debut against the Giants after he was a “healthy scratch” this evening. Blue missed most of training camp with injury. Despite tonight’s (expected) heavy workload, Williams is still more of a FLEX than RB2 for fantasy purposes.
- Rotoworld
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Nice headline lol
 
zamboni said:
Perfect sell-high opportunity IMO. He did look good, although I attribute that more to the strong push of the OL than Javonte himself. Even Sanders broke away for that long run untouched before he was caught from behind.
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Who's buying high after one week? What value did he gain... did he go from a 4th to a 3rd round pick? Seriously though, who is making aggressive offers for Javante Williams besides people who don't follow football and why are those people in dynasty leagues.

Edit - that said I was an idiot who started Barkley over Williams so I may just be bitter.
 
wgoldsph said:
zamboni said:
Perfect sell-high opportunity IMO. He did look good, although I attribute that more to the strong push of the OL than Javonte himself. Even Sanders broke away for that long run untouched before he was caught from behind.
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Who's buying high after one week? What value did he gain... did he go from a 4th to a 3rd round pick? Seriously though, who is making aggressive offers for Javante Williams besides people who don't follow football and why are those people in dynasty leagues.

Edit - that said I was an idiot who started Barkley over Williams so I may just be bitter.
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There are a lot of starting RB-hungry teams out there. Maybe they see Blue inactive and Sanders putting the ball on the ground and think Javonte has some runway.

But yes, true sharks probably won't take the bait.
 
wgoldsph said:
zamboni said:
Perfect sell-high opportunity IMO. He did look good, although I attribute that more to the strong push of the OL than Javonte himself. Even Sanders broke away for that long run untouched before he was caught from behind.
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Who's buying high after one week? What value did he gain... did he go from a 4th to a 3rd round pick? Seriously though, who is making aggressive offers for Javante Williams besides people who don't follow football and why are those people in dynasty leagues.

Edit - that said I was an idiot who started Barkley over Williams so I may just be bitter.
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I'm guessing someone will cash in for an underperforming RB2 at draft cost. I can see someone parting with RJ Harvey for Javonte after week 1 ironically
 
This was also against the Eagles defense... yeah they lost a key player before the game even started (Dak should have been ejected too), but to me Javonte looked great. That 10 yard run where he broke tackles and drug the defense was sick. He got the key goal line touches, and he was also involved in the passing game. Looks he has a floor of a Flex play with upside and got him for cheap everywhere. Pleased so far
 
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