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RB Jerome Ford, CLE (1 Viewer)

Ford is expected to operate in a workhorse role Week 1 versus the Bengals on Sunday, Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports.

Interestingly enough… He’s a free agent in all 3 of my leagues.
8 team league with no bench?
Nope. 12 and 10 teamers with 5-6 bench spots.

I think it’s just pointing out how high everyone is on the other two guys that are rostered.

I’d have to drop someone from my bench I feel is more talented than Ford.
For this week in particular, Ford is worth a start.
 
One of the weirder ADPs for me right now. I get why guys who are hurt or have contract/suspensions are sliding. But this guy looks likely to be the lead back barring a breakout from the other rookie.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Judkins and Sampson each went for $8.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Sampson also went for $3 and Judkins went for $2.
 
One of the weirder ADPs for me right now. I get why guys who are hurt or have contract/suspensions are sliding. But this guy looks likely to be the lead back barring a breakout from the other rookie.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Judkins and Sampson each went for $8.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Sampson also went for $3 and Judkins went for $2.
To be fair, my league has always had “rookie fever” because of how our keeper rules are structured.
 
One of the weirder ADPs for me right now. I get why guys who are hurt or have contract/suspensions are sliding. But this guy looks likely to be the lead back barring a breakout from the other rookie.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Judkins and Sampson each went for $8.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Sampson also went for $3 and Judkins went for $2.
To be fair, my league has always had “rookie fever” because of how our keeper rules are structured.
Same here but the top end of the draft was so wild that the values just never ended later. It has as much to do with the randomness of when a given player is nominated. If Sampson had been nominated an hour earlier he probably goes for 8 maybe more. Same with Ford I think.
 
One of the weirder ADPs for me right now. I get why guys who are hurt or have contract/suspensions are sliding. But this guy looks likely to be the lead back barring a breakout from the other rookie.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Judkins and Sampson each went for $8.
In my auction league, I got Ford for $3 while Sampson also went for $3 and Judkins went for $2.
To be fair, my league has always had “rookie fever” because of how our keeper rules are structured.
Same here but the top end of the draft was so wild that the values just never ended later. It has as much to do with the randomness of when a given player is nominated. If Sampson had been nominated an hour earlier he probably goes for 8 maybe more. Same with Ford I think.
That definitely plays a role. Plus in our league the cap is $250 instead of $200.

We had a weird dynamic where 4 out of 10 owners sat on their money and almost everyone nominated in the second half of the draft went for $5 or more to one of them until their rosters were full. I got Ford just before that happened.
 
Ford is expected to operate in a workhorse role Week 1 versus the Bengals on Sunday, Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports.

What a great match-up. Bengals run D doesn't look good.
...but who is starting him? I get it from a dynasty perspective, but not redraft barring an injury report surprise this week.
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson. Those guys are starters on other teams. Ford is an easy flex play for me vs. my other bench players. Risky, but I like the matchup.
 
Ford is expected to operate in a workhorse role Week 1 versus the Bengals on Sunday, Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports.

What a great match-up. Bengals run D doesn't look good.
...but who is starting him? I get it from a dynasty perspective, but not redraft barring an injury report surprise this week.
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson. Those guys are starters on other teams. Ford is an easy flex play for me vs. my other bench players. Risky, but I like the matchup.

I don't think Kaleb and Harvey are the starters right now
 
Ford is expected to operate in a workhorse role Week 1 versus the Bengals on Sunday, Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports.

What a great match-up. Bengals run D doesn't look good.
...but who is starting him? I get it from a dynasty perspective, but not redraft barring an injury report surprise this week.
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson. Those guys are starters on other teams. Ford is an easy flex play for me vs. my other bench players. Risky, but I like the matchup.

I don't think Kaleb and Harvey are the starters right now
I agree, but Harvey and Kaleb are being drafted as starters in recent FFPC drafts I've done. Harvey is being drafted at the 4/5 turn now. Kaleb has been going in the 7th. These guys are those teams RB2 and are being started.
 
Ford is expected to operate in a workhorse role Week 1 versus the Bengals on Sunday, Mary Kay Cabot of cleveland.com reports.

What a great match-up. Bengals run D doesn't look good.
...but who is starting him? I get it from a dynasty perspective, but not redraft barring an injury report surprise this week.
With confidence. Why would you need an injury report (on Sampson presumably)? You don't think Ford gets the workhorse role and Cabot is wrong? What's the problem otherwise? Other options that are startable ok sure but Ford should be in almost every lineup. I'm considering him over G Wilson week 1 and am putting him in over Harvey where I have that choice.
 
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson.
First, let's omit Dobbins from consideration because like Ford, he wasn't drafted in a position in which he's a starting consideration from the outset. Second, the Henderson / Harvey / Johnson scenarios are the ones that should be considered, but those are also ones I expected to draft another vet between them and Ford - that's what presents the more interesting scenarios.

Me? Week 1 I'm leaning towards the lead back on the team with more implied points - Pacheco 24, Swift 22, Ford 19. The only vet I can think of in one of these scenarios that may bump Ford out is Pollard, but unlike Ford who's being reported to have a workhorse role, we know Pollard will. This is very important to consider because no matter what's transpired on the depth chart (which has been a lot) around him Ford's never been used like a workhorse.
 
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson.
First, let's omit Dobbins from consideration because like Ford, he wasn't drafted in a position in which he's a starting consideration from the outset. Second, the Henderson / Harvey / Johnson scenarios are the ones that should be considered, but those are also ones I expected to draft another vet between them and Ford - that's what presents the more interesting scenarios.

Me? Week 1 I'm leaning towards the lead back on the team with more implied points - Pacheco 24, Swift 22, Ford 19. The only vet I can think of in one of these scenarios that may bump Ford out is Pollard, but unlike Ford who's being reported to have a workhorse role, we know Pollard will. This is very important to consider because no matter what's transpired on the depth chart (which has been a lot) around him Ford's never been used like a workhorse.
That's cool. Each roster is different as are starting requirement, scoring, etc. Personally I've got Bucky and Conner as my starters and happily plugging Ford into my second flex as I like his situaltion and matchup better than my WR 4,5 and 6. Good luck this week.
 
Ford has more projected points this week in FFPC scoring than guys like Dobbins, Pacheco, Kaleb Johnson, Swift, RJ Harvey, Henderson.
First, let's omit Dobbins from consideration because like Ford, he wasn't drafted in a position in which he's a starting consideration from the outset. Second, the Henderson / Harvey / Johnson scenarios are the ones that should be considered, but those are also ones I expected to draft another vet between them and Ford - that's what presents the more interesting scenarios.

Me? Week 1 I'm leaning towards the lead back on the team with more implied points - Pacheco 24, Swift 22, Ford 19. The only vet I can think of in one of these scenarios that may bump Ford out is Pollard, but unlike Ford who's being reported to have a workhorse role, we know Pollard will. This is very important to consider because no matter what's transpired on the depth chart (which has been a lot) around him Ford's never been used like a workhorse.
He had 200+ carries and 60+ targets two years ago. That's good enough for me. 2 of his last 3 regular season games he broke off two 60+ yard TDs. He had 40+ targets despite a smaller role. Not sure what more you want here for fantasy. I agree he isn't their first choice to be the starter per se but I think they're rolling with what they've got right now.

I think Sampson is going to be involved week 1. 17 carries 6 targets for Ford, 7 carries maybe a couple targets for Sampson.
 
With confidence. Why would you need an injury report (on Sampson presumably)?
Not talking about the Browns injury report - I'm talking about the other 31 teams.
that still doesn't make sense to me. why does that matter for you re:Ford and his role on the Browns?
I'm not communicating my message properly and / or you're not reading it right

EDIT: think what happened to Coker this weekend, something like that happens to a team's starting RB in the next few days, then Ford can be a viable consideration if that manager has him
 
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Early on Ford is a fine play. It’s what they see from Sampson, and whether Judkins eventually signs & sees the field that clouds his long-term value.

They trust Ford, which goes a long way in the NFL. FF managers want flash & dash, but boring is fine for coaches if the RB carries the mail, protects the QB, and moves the chains.

But this certainly could turn into a muddled mess as the season goes on.
 
He had 200+ carries and 60+ targets two years ago. That's good enough for me. 2 of his last 3 regular season games he broke off two 60+ yard TDs. He had 40+ targets despite a smaller role.
I went into detail about historical usage and why Ford can't be trusted earlier this offseason, but apparently it wasn't this thread. If I can find it and link it in the next minute I'll post it, but I'm not going to devote the time to research and write the same thing again.

EDIT: found it
 
With confidence. Why would you need an injury report (on Sampson presumably)?
Not talking about the Browns injury report - I'm talking about the other 31 teams.
that still doesn't make sense to me. why does that matter for you re:Ford and his role on the Browns?
I'm not communicating my message properly and / or you're not reading it right
Perhaps both. But ok so you'd need an injury elsewhere to one of your starters to plug him in is what you're saying. You don't think he gets workhorse treatment. That's fine.
 
He had 200+ carries and 60+ targets two years ago. That's good enough for me. 2 of his last 3 regular season games he broke off two 60+ yard TDs. He had 40+ targets despite a smaller role.
I went into detail about historical usage and why Ford can't be trusted earlier this offseason, but apparently it wasn't this thread. If I can find it and link it in the next minute I'll post it, but I'm not going to devote the time to research and write the same thing again.

EDIT: found it
It's ok it isn't going to change my opinion that he is startable this week. We also probably have different definitions of what is a workhorse and what isn't. (You wouldn't be the only one that disagrees with me on it).

I don't think they want him to be the workhorse either. But that doesn't mean they won't do it if they don't have other options. And for the record I do think Sampson takes over and maybe kind of soon. But for week 1 it's on. And I'd reiterate something I've said repeatedly. Ford is the only one they can trust on 3rd down and/or passing downs.
 
I'll also add that on my Ford team I drafted Judkins 5 rounds earlier, so it's not like I'm advocating for Ford to be drafted in rounds 5-7 like Harvey, Dobbins, etc., it's that he seems like a tremendous value play week 1 as presumably the Browns starter and work horse vs. what I expect to be a terrible Bengals rush D.
 
He had 200+ carries and 60+ targets two years ago. That's good enough for me. 2 of his last 3 regular season games he broke off two 60+ yard TDs. He had 40+ targets despite a smaller role.
I went into detail about historical usage and why Ford can't be trusted earlier this offseason, but apparently it wasn't this thread. If I can find it and link it in the next minute I'll post it, but I'm not going to devote the time to research and write the same thing again.

EDIT: found it
It's ok it isn't going to change my opinion that he is startable this week. We also probably have different definitions of what is a workhorse and what isn't. (You wouldn't be the only one that disagrees with me on it).

I don't think they want him to be the workhorse either. But that doesn't mean they won't do it if they don't have other options. And for the record I do think Sampson takes over and maybe kind of soon. But for week 1 it's on. And I'd reiterate something I've said repeatedly. Ford is the only one they can trust on 3rd down and/or passing downs.
See the below box score

Win v JAX early 2024

This was a win vs the Jags last year. The RB depth chart was Ford / Foreman / Strong. Despite that and a positive game script they gave Ford 9 opportunities vs 15 for Foreman and 3 for Strong. Examples like this are littered throughout his career. The Browns don't have other options (your words) and they limit his usage anyway.

As I wrote in the attached, I'd love to be wrong, there's just not anything in his history to suggest differently - it's wishcasting.
 
It's very tempting to start him against that porous defense of the Bengals regardless of how much he touches the ball. He could have 4 carries for 100 yards and 2 TDs against that garbage defense.
 
He had 200+ carries and 60+ targets two years ago. That's good enough for me. 2 of his last 3 regular season games he broke off two 60+ yard TDs. He had 40+ targets despite a smaller role.
I went into detail about historical usage and why Ford can't be trusted earlier this offseason, but apparently it wasn't this thread. If I can find it and link it in the next minute I'll post it, but I'm not going to devote the time to research and write the same thing again.

EDIT: found it
It's ok it isn't going to change my opinion that he is startable this week. We also probably have different definitions of what is a workhorse and what isn't. (You wouldn't be the only one that disagrees with me on it).

I don't think they want him to be the workhorse either. But that doesn't mean they won't do it if they don't have other options. And for the record I do think Sampson takes over and maybe kind of soon. But for week 1 it's on. And I'd reiterate something I've said repeatedly. Ford is the only one they can trust on 3rd down and/or passing downs.
See the below box score

Win v JAX early 2024

This was a win vs the Jags last year. The RB depth chart was Ford / Foreman / Strong. Despite that and a positive game script they gave Ford 9 opportunities vs 15 for Foreman and 3 for Strong. Examples like this are littered throughout his career. The Browns don't have other options (your words) and they limit his usage anyway.

As I wrote in the attached, I'd love to be wrong, there's just not anything in his history to suggest differently - it's wishcasting.
and iirc, the Browns have admitted to "going with the hot hand" theory with their running backs in the absence of Chubb.

the problem with Ford is that he rarely gets hot.

he will get what is blocked, and seemingly not one yard more.

i think us CLE fans are just biased against Ford, cause we've had to watch him.
 

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