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RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (4 Viewers)

Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap

Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
 
If they trade him and dont include a RB in the trade, who is the guy in Indy? Understanding that they possibly would sign someone else as well
 
If they trade him and dont include a RB in the trade, who is the guy in Indy? Understanding that they possibly would sign someone else as well
Some will say Deon Jackson, some Zack Moss, some Evan Hull.

Personally I am backing Deon Jackson for PPR leagues as I think he is trusted as a receiver out of the backfield and I think he will get a good share of goal line opportunities due to his size.

I would put Evan Hull next as he was pretty versatile at Northwestern and he was brought in by the current regime.

Hope that helps.
 
If they trade him and dont include a RB in the trade, who is the guy in Indy? Understanding that they possibly would sign someone else as well
I would think a RB would be included, otherwise one of Ahmed or Wilson are getting cut, as Miami won't carry 5 RBs, and Achane and Mostert are roster locks, though either could be involved in a potential trade.

As far as guys already on the Colts, probably Zack Moss, he was the clear #1 before he got hurt, and everyone else is more of a 3rd down RB. But the answer might just be nobody, at least among guys on the roster, but possibly in general. If Taylor gets dealt, its likely the Colts leading rusher is Anthony Richardson.
 
Personally I am backing Deon Jackson for PPR leagues as I think he is trusted as a receiver out of the backfield and I think he will get a good share of goal line opportunities due to his size.

I would put Evan Hull next as he was pretty versatile at Northwestern and he was brought in by the current regime.
Short term (2023) I believe it’s Deon.

Long term (dynasty) I like Hull.

There is no term in which I prefer Moss.
 
Ian Rapoport says that the other team that is interested is shocking. He won't name them since he doesn't know how firm their intentions are.
CIN? They have space this year. They have 30M+ next year in space with 50+ players signed for next year.
I'd be a little shocked as a lot of that money is going to go to extending Joe Burrow and probably Tee Higgins. Both of which are much bigger priorities than getting Taylor would be.

Dolphins just released Myles Gaskin. :popcorn:
I see no correlation. Miami was never going to keep 5 RBs, and Gaskin was behind Mostert, Wilson, Achane and Ahmed. If they dump Jeff Wilson then we can give it some weight.

I think its less than 50-50 he actually gets dealt. He's playing week 1 regardless, so I still think its crazy he's falling out of top-25 picks in drafts. Dude has 0 leverage.
I think most teams could fit Taylor in, if they wanted to. I highly doubt anyone is going to give him a massive extension, and any other big contracts they have to give out (say to Burrow) they can push the cap hit out a few years. Herbert only counts $8.5mil this year and $19+mil next, for example.

Agreed that playing for the Colts week 1 has always seemed like the most likely scenario, but this could play out any number of ways still. We can't even be certain he's healthy enough to play in week 1 (likely but not a lock), and this is a very unusual situation. Irsay, JT, and his agent are all atypical IMO.
 
Personally I am backing Deon Jackson for PPR leagues as I think he is trusted as a receiver out of the backfield and I think he will get a good share of goal line opportunities due to his size.

I would put Evan Hull next as he was pretty versatile at Northwestern and he was brought in by the current regime.
Short term (2023) I believe it’s Deon.

Long term (dynasty) I like Hull.

There is no term in which I prefer Moss.
Hull seems like a decent utility player, but I do not look at him and think dynasty RB1. I think it is more likely that if Taylor is dealt, the Colts' long-term answer at RB is not currently on their roster. If they proceed with the other backs currently on their roster, we would likely see some sort of an RBBC for 2023, with Anthony Richardson further draining the value from the RB position.

What is it about Zack Moss you dislike so much?
 
Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap


Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
I predict Mr. Wilson will make $ 1/4 M per reception.
 
Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap


Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
I predict Mr. Wilson will make $ 1/4 M per reception.
I mean, if either of Hill/Waddle go down, he's the next guy up. There is no Gesicki anymore, and Berrios is slot only.

Wilson is honestly probably a WR3 for fantasy if Hill or Waddle go down.
 
Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap


Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
I predict Mr. Wilson will make $ 1/4 M per reception.
I mean, if either of Hill/Waddle go down, he's the next guy up. There is no Gesicki anymore, and Berrios is slot only.

Wilson is honestly probably a WR3 for fantasy if Hill or Waddle go down.
Robbie chosen likely going to practice squad after the ced restructure.
 
Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap


Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
I predict Mr. Wilson will make $ 1/4 M per reception.
I mean, if either of Hill/Waddle go down, he's the next guy up. There is no Gesicki anymore, and Berrios is slot only.

Wilson is honestly probably a WR3 for fantasy if Hill or Waddle go down.
Robbie chosen likely going to practice squad after the ced restructure.
He was just announced as being released by Miami
 
What is it about Zack Moss you dislike so much?
Never been a Zach Moss guy. It’s not that I dislike himc I just think he’s been overrated in FF.
Moss is incredibly slow. 4.65 40 time if I remember my googling from a couple days ago. Deon Jackson just looked way more dynamic in his spelling of JT last season.
Moss is very similar to David Montgomery, his game isn't speed, its breaking tackles. He'll never look dynamic but he's reliable and keeps the chains moving. Jackson looked like a 3rd down RB to me, like a lesser version of Hines.
 
Here's what we know

Miami released Myles Gaskin and saved $1M
Miami traded Feeney to Bears for a 6th, set to make $3.1M but Miami already paid him $2m sign bonus, maybe they saved $1M trading him plus the draft pick.
Miami had Cedric Wilson restructure his contract, the amount is unknown but some reports say the Phins save about $3M in cap space, not sure how that's possible but OK
-Spotrac has him making $4.5M this year, still a $7M dead cap hit, that didn't change but his salary for '23 did drop vs the cap


Miami might have created another $5M in cap space, not sure what they have planned here
:whistle:
I predict Mr. Wilson will make $ 1/4 M per reception.
I mean, if either of Hill/Waddle go down, he's the next guy up. There is no Gesicki anymore, and Berrios is slot only.

Wilson is honestly probably a WR3 for fantasy if Hill or Waddle go down.
Robbie chosen likely going to practice squad after the ced restructure.
He was just announced as being released by Miami
He's coming back.
 
𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗦: The #Colts are “actively monitoring” the status of free agent RB Kareem Hunt amid ongoing trade conversations regarding All-Pro Jonathan Taylor, per
@MarinoNFL
This would make a ton of sense if Indianapolis does end up trading JT.

 
: The #Colts are “actively monitoring” the status of free agent RB Kareem Hunt
I picture a wall of monitors, with a bunch of computers and a small army of IT guys.

One of them looks up to Irsay sitting in a massive chair in the middle of the Command Center and say, "We have real time data here......uh huh......OK.......let me just check with the algorithm........Yes! OK. Mr. irsay, he is still a free agent as he has been for the last 4 months."

Irsay rubs his chin thoughtfully. "OK. keep monitoring"
 
: The #Colts are “actively monitoring” the status of free agent RB Kareem Hunt
I picture a wall of monitors, with a bunch of computers and a small army of IT guys.

One of them looks up to Irsay sitting in a massive chair in the middle of the Command Center and say, "We have real time data here......uh huh......OK.......let me just check with the algorithm........Yes! OK. Mr. irsay, he is still a free agent as he has been for the last 4 months."

Irsay rubs his chin thoughtfully. "OK. keep monitoring"
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Just print the dang thing Thorny!
 
Seems pretty obvious they will remove him from the PUP list.
Look, I want him down here in Miami, but if I were the colts and not happy with the offer, I would put him on the PUP list, sign Hunt, and kick the can down the road a month where injuries and the like could occur. It would look crappy, but spite is best served cold.
 
Seems pretty obvious they will remove him from the PUP list.
Look, I want him down here in Miami, but if I were the colts and not happy with the offer, I would put him on the PUP list, sign Hunt, and kick the can down the road a month where injuries and the like could occur. It would look crappy, but spite is best served cold.
Lesser trade value, more money spent.
They don't HAVE to trade him today.
 
I would think at this point the Colts are keeping Taylor (which I think is the smart choice) but will be interesting to see if he comes off PUP. Taylor would have been better off holding-in
 
Seems pretty obvious they will remove him from the PUP list.
Look, I want him down here in Miami, but if I were the colts and not happy with the offer, I would put him on the PUP list, sign Hunt, and kick the can down the road a month where injuries and the like could occur. It would look crappy, but spite is best served cold.
Lesser trade value, more money spent.
They don't HAVE to trade him today.

Yep, and then we all get speculate for another 9 weeks until the trade deadline. Whoo-hoo!
 

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