Boston
Footballguy
He pretty much is and usually that is not something you are in a rush to be part of but San Fran is unique (IMO) because of the reasons I gave above.
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He pretty much is and usually that is not something you are in a rush to be part of but San Fran is unique (IMO) because of the reasons I gave above.
Confused why he got first snaps (and scored a TD) when CMC went out? Mitchell was active.
Boston
Footballguy
It is Shanahan…anything is possible when it comes to RBs…the reason why you want a San Fran RB is the reason you don’t want one…outside of McCafferey anything could happen.
Because Mitchell only got in one day of practice the week before.
If McCaffrey is out, I would go Mason over Mitchell. Mason has dramatically improved his pass receiving since last year and at this point is better than Mitchell as a receiver. And kidding aside, if Mitchell does get the start, how long before he gets dinged? I hate to predict injury, especially with my favorite team, but can't ignore it either.
I don't think this is true. He has been fairly consistent about running with one guy for the bulk of usage. His "shenanigans" have been based on injuries forcing him to mix and match. Mostert/Wilson was all injury driven. You knew who the guy was going into every game and it held until and injury happened. Then the other guy would take over until he got injured then rinse and repeat.
satch
Footballguy
I believe this quote from Shanahan gives us the best indication of which RB will take the lead. When asked about Mason potentially being the starter, he immediately pivots to Elijah Mitchell. That alone is very telling.
“Yeah, we’ll see. Elijah's earned a ton with us over these years. I think Elijah, when he has been healthy, has been as good of a back as there is. …”
A coach doesn’t say something like that then not give a player what they’ve “earned.” So what has Mitchell earned a ton of? Presumably, carries, and the role of starting RB.
He does follow that up with some praise for Mason, so I’m thinking Mitchell is the starter/lead RB and Mason also gets work.
“Yeah, we’ll see. Elijah's earned a ton with us over these years. I think Elijah, when he has been healthy, has been as good of a back as there is. …”
A coach doesn’t say something like that then not give a player what they’ve “earned.” So what has Mitchell earned a ton of? Presumably, carries, and the role of starting RB.
He does follow that up with some praise for Mason, so I’m thinking Mitchell is the starter/lead RB and Mason also gets work.
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abrunn1133
Footballguy
This is everything. Mitchell has not done anything for the coaches to lose confidence in him if he is healthy. Obviously nobody is starting Mason this week, but the very best you could hope for is 50% of the 1st and 2nd down reps. I could see the Niners using predominantly Mitchell and Juice on 3rd. Again, I could be way off.
abrunn1133
Footballguy
Can the last one here turn out the light? Thanks
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Yep. Droppable
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Still not a bad handcuff if you hold them. CMC could be wearing down and Mitchell is made of glass. Could be a league winner if injuries take their toll.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I completely agree with this.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Too many if's. If you have a spot that deep I guess go for it.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I'd hold if possible. Mitchell didn't impress in limited snaps last night. Handcuff dart throw that could pay off later this season.
I like that you made a definite conclusion on Mitchell's performance based on his 1 carry and zero targets. What does it say that Mason didn't even get that?
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Lol, Mitchell owner huh?
Just stating a case for Mason owners to hold while Mitchell didn't inspire last night. Not a referendum on Mitchell's value ROS
Nope...don't own either but you stated "Mitchell didn't impress last night" and I'm pointing out that's an odd statement because he got 1 carry and no targets and Mason got zero carries and zero targets. So it's weird to write off who the actual backup is (no matter your impressions on his one carry). Hold both for sure but the conclusion that Mitchell isn't going to get carries because of his performance seems off to me...
As much as you LOLd me on your response it sounds like the response of someone who needs mason to be the guy when he clearly is not the guy
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Drake Hater
Footballguy
Nope. Just giving a comment on a forum like everyone else here
abrunn1133
Footballguy
It is insanity to roster a backup of a backup. Not telling anyone how to run their team but can someone give one example of when this strategy worked? Where we rostered the backup of a backup the entire season and it paid off.
You would need some serious deep benches for sure. There are a lot of teams that run the ball very well and trying to carry the back up of the back up is going to cost you valuable roster space
Kyren Williams
doeseatplace
Footballguy
Teamed Mason up with Keontay Ingram in my backfield this week as I scuffled through injuries and bye weeks. That's right...0 combined snaps.
Too bad I didn't have Zach Evans rostered to put in the flex
Too bad I didn't have Zach Evans rostered to put in the flex
What this team was missing was Bijan Robinson.
abrunn1133
Footballguy
What? When was Kyren Williams the backup to the backup and sat on someone’s bench for a season?
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
I'm currently doing it as a CMC owner. We have decent sized rosters and Mitchell is less than reliable health-wise. The waiver wire is always picked thin, and I'd rather go into a week having a SF RB than anyone else I could get. If I need the spot, I'll cut Mason if needed. But there's really no downside to keeping him right now as I have a couple other spots to churn for a bye week TE or defense.
ETA
We had a guy rostering Khalil Herbert, Roschon, and Foreman earlier this year. He cut Foreman before the Washington game. Lol and behold, his opponent this week won the bid on Foreman two weeks ago and started him this week. Meanwhile the guy who had Foreman had Breece on bye, both his Chicago RBs out, and had to start Clyde Edwards-Hellno at RB.
Ya never know.
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abrunn1133
Footballguy
I can see rostering him in your instance. A tad shortsighted of me to not consider very large and deep-benched leagues. Makes sense.
All last year.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Folks who had Jeff Wilson stashed on IR in sf a couple years ago as the pretty clear #3 got some real nice late-season production out of that
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
I feel like I have picked him up and cut him once a month for the past two years.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Same. Every time I have seen him play he seems look like a very efficient and natural runner, never understood what is holding him back and always seemingly falling down the depth chart.
I've thought he's looked better than Elijah Mitchell when he's been used and would be very surprised if the Louisville guy looked better. but yeah, SF seems to feel different. Kyle Shanahan (and/or John Lynch) kinda sucks at scouting RBs.
Wingnut
Footballguy
IMO its because Shanahan thinks hes smarter than everyone else. Just look as their drafts, there's usually a consensus best player available, yet they always take a different player. Its the same with player usage. Everyone has been wanting Mason to get more carries, yet here we are wondering why he doesn't. It's frustrating and mind boggling.
Birdie048
Footballguy
You & me both!
Just dropped him to make room for rookie draft picks!
He ran hard & was efficient. No clue why he rarely saw the field
MTskibum
Footballguy
Those bad talent evaluators are ruining the team too, i am not sure why they have not been fired yet.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Not necessarily talking in relation to FF, I feel as though he has enough talent to succeed if given the chance and was curious on why that has not happened. Just someone who I would monitor for his next contract.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Always been high on this guys running ability, sound like he has improved in the passing game. Wish he would take that number two spot…
49ers RB Christian McCaffrey Says Jordan Mason is a Complete Running Back
49ers RB Christian McCaffrey Says Jordan Mason is a Complete Running Back
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
This might actually be the year I’m right about Mason 
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed. But Mitchell is a pretty reasonable bet to miss time as well.
Isn't he out of practice with something ATM?
Every running back on the team has been out for one thing or another.
I just think if CMC goes down long term it'll be rbbc. So any rb's left standing will all get a piece of the pie.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Something has prevented Mason from seeing carries the last few seasons. Pass protection, understanding of the playbook…who knows. IMO he is by far the best runner of the football below CMC and it is not that close. Hopefully he is shoring up whatever the issue is and locks in the number two spot. Otherwise I will be keeping an eye on him when he becomes a FA, guy is a talented RB.
Max Power
Footballguy
There have been some videos posted recently with Mason and the RB Coach admitting Mason didn't come into the league understanding what it took to be a professional.
Per the coach, Mason has grown a lot since then. He purchased a jugs machine to practice his receiving skills at home and sounds like the 49ers have seen him take the next step he needed to.
