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RB Jordan Mason, MIN (1 Viewer)

I'd have to guess there is a chance they did this to retain his rights and could trade him at some point.
I was right on this.
I’ll bet my life they draft a RB.
Will be on this.


And tbd but while I think Mason's value is absolutely up I think he's just moved to higher end handcuff value . Better real life addition then fantasy addition. They worked Aaron Jones to hard last year, career high usage. KOC had already said earlier this off-season he needed to reduce his workload. So that's Mason of course and that's good but how valuable in PPR fantasy is the secondary RB of a RBBC who is a virtual non-factor in the passing game? Not much to me. No one you ever want to start. High end handcuff to me is what he is, not the highest, but in the top group.
 
I'd have to guess there is a chance they did this to retain his rights and could trade him at some point.
I was right on this.
I’ll bet my life they draft a RB.
Will be on this.


And tbd but while I think Mason's value is absolutely up I think he's just moved to higher end handcuff value . Better real life addition than fantasy addition. They worked Aaron Jones to hard last year, career high usage. KOC had already said earlier this off-season he needed to reduce his workload. So that's Mason of course and that's good but how valuable in PPR fantasy is the secondary RB of a RBBC who is a virtual non-factor in the passing game? Not much to me. No one you ever want to start. High end handcuff to me is what he is, not the highest, but in the top group.
I think you are potentially underestimating Mason. The Vikings saw first hand what it was like having a physical runner power through them (Mason last year against them). They live in a division with Detroit and their combo of Monty/Gibbs, and I think they want to replicate that. Mason may not get a ton of passing game work, but there is a decent upside in what appears to be a great offense for quite a few red zone opportunities for Mason. With an aging Aaron Jones, Mason could have some stretches where he is getting the majority of the workload. Even with a healthy Jones, I think this is close to a 50/50 split (with Mason getting GL work).
 
Mason reminds me of what Larry Johnson was to Priest Holmes .. AJones will be play the Holmes role but once Mason takes over, watch out .. Could be similar to LJ.
 
I'd have to guess there is a chance they did this to retain his rights and could trade him at some point.
I was right on this.
I’ll bet my life they draft a RB.
Will be on this.


And tbd but while I think Mason's value is absolutely up I think he's just moved to higher end handcuff value . Better real life addition than fantasy addition. They worked Aaron Jones to hard last year, career high usage. KOC had already said earlier this off-season he needed to reduce his workload. So that's Mason of course and that's good but how valuable in PPR fantasy is the secondary RB of a RBBC who is a virtual non-factor in the passing game? Not much to me. No one you ever want to start. High end handcuff to me is what he is, not the highest, but in the top group.
I think you are potentially underestimating Mason. The Vikings saw first hand what it was like having a physical runner power through them (Mason last year against them). They live in a division with Detroit and their combo of Monty/Gibbs, and I think they want to replicate that. Mason may not get a ton of passing game work, but there is a decent upside in what appears to be a great offense for quite a few red zone opportunities for Mason. With an aging Aaron Jones, Mason could have some stretches where he is getting the majority of the workload. Even with a healthy Jones, I think this is close to a 50/50 split (with Mason getting GL work).
We'll see, I know you and people who own him are excited, I think he's just the secondary non passing part of a RBBC.

Also I think this team the last few years uses their RB usage has been near the bottom in the red zone area. Don't have stats on this but have heard it. Can't look up last years stats on the data dominator here but in 2023 their RB's had a grand total of 13 carries inside the 5. You can say Mason will change that but I don't know how much.

I'd peg for him like 600-700 yards rushing, 5 TD's, extremely minimal production. A RB4 type when Jones is healthy. I'll feel like I can get a lot of secondary RBBC types and handcuffs probably a lot cheaper.

I also just don't think he's as talented as you. He's like a long run of RB's in the Shanahan system who got called for a few weeks and did well. Good tough two down runner and a nice complement to Jones in real life. Just not excited for fantasy.
 
I'd have to guess there is a chance they did this to retain his rights and could trade him at some point.
I was right on this.
I’ll bet my life they draft a RB.
Will be on this.


And tbd but while I think Mason's value is absolutely up I think he's just moved to higher end handcuff value . Better real life addition than fantasy addition. They worked Aaron Jones to hard last year, career high usage. KOC had already said earlier this off-season he needed to reduce his workload. So that's Mason of course and that's good but how valuable in PPR fantasy is the secondary RB of a RBBC who is a virtual non-factor in the passing game? Not much to me. No one you ever want to start. High end handcuff to me is what he is, not the highest, but in the top group.
I think you are potentially underestimating Mason. The Vikings saw first hand what it was like having a physical runner power through them (Mason last year against them). They live in a division with Detroit and their combo of Monty/Gibbs, and I think they want to replicate that. Mason may not get a ton of passing game work, but there is a decent upside in what appears to be a great offense for quite a few red zone opportunities for Mason. With an aging Aaron Jones, Mason could have some stretches where he is getting the majority of the workload. Even with a healthy Jones, I think this is close to a 50/50 split (with Mason getting GL work).
We'll see, I know you and people who own him are excited, I think he's just the secondary non passing part of a RBBC.

Also I think this team the last few years uses their RB usage has been near the bottom in the red zone area. Don't have stats on this but have heard it. Can't look up last years stats on the data dominator here but in 2023 their RB's had a grand total of 13 carries inside the 5. You can say Mason will change that but I don't know how much.

I'd peg for him like 600-700 yards rushing, 5 TD's, extremely minimal production. A RB4 type when Jones is healthy. I'll feel like I can get a lot of secondary RBBC types and handcuffs probably a lot cheaper.

I also just don't think he's as talented as you. He's like a long run of RB's in the Shanahan system who got called for a few weeks and did well. Good tough two down runner and a nice complement to Jones in real life. Just not excited for fantasy.
I agree about the concern about the passing game, but he has always ran well. I think MIN is looking for a guy who can wear the opposing defense down and I think Mason is a perfect fit. I have been a fan of him as a runner since his rookie season and excited to see how it works as a Viking. Having an aging back ahead of him who will probably be better in a split situation adds to the possibility of a decent opportunity in a good to great offense. Bottom line is I do think there is more upside for Mason and think it is a great move for MIN, we will see how it plays out.
 
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When in doubt, look at the capital invested in the position. Jones is going to be the guy at $10 million a year, Mason is going to be the situational hammer. Mason is AJ Dillon 2.0 to Aaron Jones.
 
When in doubt, look at the capital invested in the position. Jones is going to be the guy at $10 million a year, Mason is going to be the situational hammer. Mason is AJ Dillon 2.0 to Aaron Jones.
That is a fair assessment, however I think there is some wiggle room in this scenario. I think the Vikings like what they saw when Mason ran through them we they played last year and envision a Monty/Gibbs-like scenario. Jones is 30 and had over 300 touches last year. I would bet they lighten his load and use Mason extensively to wear down the defense and obviously short-yardage situations. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was close to a 50/50 carry split with Jones seeing more in the passing game and Mason getting more stripe action. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
When in doubt, look at the capital invested in the position. Jones is going to be the guy at $10 million a year, Mason is going to be the situational hammer. Mason is AJ Dillon 2.0 to Aaron Jones.
That is a fair assessment, however I think there is some wiggle room in this scenario. I think the Vikings like what they saw when Mason ran through them we they played last year and envision a Monty/Gibbs-like scenario. Jones is 30 and had over 300 touches last year. I would bet they lighten his load and use Mason extensively to wear down the defense and obviously short-yardage situations. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was close to a 50/50 carry split with Jones seeing more in the passing game and Mason getting more stripe action. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Plus, Mason is better than Dillon.
 
When in doubt, look at the capital invested in the position. Jones is going to be the guy at $10 million a year, Mason is going to be the situational hammer. Mason is AJ Dillon 2.0 to Aaron Jones.
That is a fair assessment, however I think there is some wiggle room in this scenario. I think the Vikings like what they saw when Mason ran through them we they played last year and envision a Monty/Gibbs-like scenario. Jones is 30 and had over 300 touches last year. I would bet they lighten his load and use Mason extensively to wear down the defense and obviously short-yardage situations. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was close to a 50/50 carry split with Jones seeing more in the passing game and Mason getting more stripe action. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Plus, Mason is better than Dillon.
Yep. And it’s not really close.
 

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