ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Good job picking the leading rusher this season for the 9ers! I think Mason is just built for this system. Add the fact that he is also a great receiving option and he’s a no brainer for me.
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facook
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Great receiving option you say
His catch totals did increase year by year but...
'18-1 catch
'19-7 catches
'20-8 catches
'21-10 catches
And I don't know how you can say he's built for the San Fran Offense
TDPrice is 6-1/219
Mason is 6-1/209
Price matches Mason's catch total in 2021 and did have 1,000 yds rushing for an SEC team. Mason had rushing totals his Junior and Senior Year 352 and 439 doesn't scream bell cow or lion's share of the touches.
Good stock to monitor, both of these Backs as the season unfolds. Penny stocks right now.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Do you watch film? They used him extensively on passing downs in the preseason. Reporters at the 9ers camp pointed him out as having some of the best receiving skills in the rb room.Great receiving option you say
His catch totals did increase year by year but...
'18-1 catch
'19-7 catches
'20-8 catches
'21-10 catches
And I don't know how you can say he's built for the San Fran Offense
TDPrice is 6-1/219
Mason is 6-1/209
Price matches Mason's catch total in 2021 and did have 1,000 yds rushing for an SEC team. Mason had rushing totals his Junior and Senior Year 352 and 439 doesn't scream bell cow or lion's share of the touches.
Good stock to monitor, both of these Backs as the season unfolds. Penny stocks right now.
49ers website lists him at 223 lbs
Chaka
Footballguy
I drafted Mason, TDP is available on waivers. If I didn't draft Mason,.both would be available on waivers...as is Jeff Wilson.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Please don't be perturbed by my post, I expected to see some better production with some of the posts I read, I just picked yours. I don't get overly rev'd up on preseason action BUT...Do you watch film? They used him extensively on passing downs in the preseason. Reporters at the 9ers camp pointed him out as having some of the best receiving skills in the rb room.Great receiving option you say
His catch totals did increase year by year but...
'18-1 catch
'19-7 catches
'20-8 catches
'21-10 catches
And I don't know how you can say he's built for the San Fran Offense
TDPrice is 6-1/219
Mason is 6-1/209
Price matches Mason's catch total in 2021 and did have 1,000 yds rushing for an SEC team. Mason had rushing totals his Junior and Senior Year 352 and 439 doesn't scream bell cow or lion's share of the touches.
Good stock to monitor, both of these Backs as the season unfolds. Penny stocks right now.
49ers website lists him at 223 lbs
-I like camp reports and I like the beat writers for teams that aren't featured on major networks or mainstream media so I follow you there.
Someone might have posted this but I found it interesting and thought you might as well.
How 49ers discovered exciting, undrafted back Mason
An area scout for the 49ers discovered undrafted running back Jordan Mason just four days before the 2022 NFL Draft.
And I love a good film, we are getting ready to enter "film season" where we turn from Top Gun to Licorice Pizza
Chaka
Footballguy
Great post. But being "built" for an offense really doesn't have much to do with size.Great receiving option you say
His catch totals did increase year by year but...
'18-1 catch
'19-7 catches
'20-8 catches
'21-10 catches
And I don't know how you can say he's built for the San Fran Offense
TDPrice is 6-1/219
Mason is 6-1/209
Price matches Mason's catch total in 2021 and did have 1,000 yds rushing for an SEC team. Mason had rushing totals his Junior and Senior Year 352 and 439 doesn't scream bell cow or lion's share of the touches.
Good stock to monitor, both of these Backs as the season unfolds. Penny stocks right now.
Trey Sermon is their size.
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facook
Footballguy
Then yeah I would probably lean TDP due to draft capitol but unfortunately that means nothing to Shanny.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yeah, agreed. I was hoping there would be similar glowing posts about TDP as there are Mason.
Feels like Sermon/Mitchell 2.0
FTR I went Sermon last year.
facook
Footballguy
Interesting comparison...I honestly don't remember Mitchell shining in the preseason last year, but I DO remember Sermon looking terrible.
This year it's not that TDP has looked poor, just that Mason has looked SO good. As I posted before I picked up Mason for nothing as my last rostered player in a dynasty league. I think in your position I'd just hold him for a couple of weeks and see if he gets any opportunities early and if so what he does with them.
Jeff Wilson looked very Jaggy last year. Mason has got great reports and we always get excited about the new toys rather than the boring old one
Chaka
Footballguy
Great post, thanks. I agree.
Feels like a coin toss, and I'm just trying to figure out if I like where it landed. Ultimately I'm gonna stick with Mason for now.
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Chaka
Footballguy
Good question, I feel he is equally unreliable as Mitchell. Dude can't stay on field
I think there is a very good chance that Wilson and Mitchell are injured/healthy just enough to both be listed as, gimpy, starters for 12-17 weeks, rendering all options in the SF backfield essentially nightmares on any fantasy rosters.
Sound about right?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m pretty sure Wilson is #2
massraider
Footballguy
It's fun to have him in deep leagues, but it's a long shot. I have him on rosters where he's my 7th RB.
I took TDP over him, decent draft capital vs UDFA, I have to make that call every time.
At the end of it all, I don't see a SF back being a league winner. More likely a couple guys have some RB2 numbers for a few games, and a bunch of fantasy owners develop ulcers.
I took TDP over him, decent draft capital vs UDFA, I have to make that call every time.
At the end of it all, I don't see a SF back being a league winner. More likely a couple guys have some RB2 numbers for a few games, and a bunch of fantasy owners develop ulcers.
The 49ers came out today and said Wilson is
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Post a link?
This is quoted from Rotoworld who got it from The Athletic
The Athletic's Matt Barrows writes that there's a "clear demarcation" between 49ers RB Jeff Wilson and the rest of the team's backup runners.
"I expect Wilson to get the bulk of the third-down snaps [JaMycal] Hasty had last season," Barrows adds. With Trey Sermon in Philadelphia and Hasty released, it sure would seem that Wilson has upside as a bench stash in the event of an Elijah Mitchell injury. Wilson had 13 or more carries in each of his four starts in 2021, and while Tyrion Davis-Price has draft capital on his side, so did Sermon last seasonI should amend my earlier post not to say the 49ers, but rather writers
Wasn't he recovering from injury last year though?
I've had Wilson in the past and I could swear he helped me win a championship a couple years ago. Have to think the coaching staff trusts this guy, assuming he's healthy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Nobody in the Shark Pool likes the wiley old vet, everyone loves the new shiny rookies and we have a lot of dynasty prognosticators.
Outside of availability I don't see anything that will stop Elijah Mitchell from being the RB1, he started 10-11 games and avg well over 20 touches per game
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Changing his running style to remain healthy? His one cut and go and make defenders pay running style kept him sidelined quite a bit but it also made him what he was. He just told reporters that he was trying to make people miss more instead of running into them so we’ll see what that looks like.
Chaka
Footballguy
I agree with the thesis Wilson on its surface but it has to be taken on a case by case basis. Wilson has missed 10, 6, 4 & 8 games in his first four seasons. And his questionable availability has rendered him effectively useless in many of his potential starts. He has had 5 highly effective performances in 9 starts but if you started him against NE in week 7 of 2020 (after 4 opportunities, 5 opportunities and a missed game prior) you're either lying or your season was over before it even started.
He can't be relied upon for anything.
He did, he looked a lot better in years past. He was very pedestrian last year and didn't break tackles or show much elusiveness last year. He also didn't have the nose for the end zone like he did during your champ year
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Lynch was asked whether there’s something unique about scouting running backs, given the team’s success with undrafted and lower-round prospects, or if it’s a position that’s harder to predict:
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
They ran a move the pile drill, Elijah ripped it 85 yards for a Touchdown and he didn't touch the ball much for the rest of training camp.
I hear you but the jump typically from year 1 to year 2 for primary RBs which Mitchell clearly was, usually is significant and I would hope he learns a little bit from his Rookie season to Year 2.
The window is not going to be easy. Are you suggesting that Mason just flat beats Mitchell out in practice over the season and even barring injury you feel Mason will see significant time in 2022?
Are we talking 2023? Just asking so I understand your perspective.
Are you a fan of Lance? That's my biggest hurdle right now with Mitchell or any SF RB right now. I'm not sure I believe just yet.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
I think it’s a real possibility. We’ll see week 1 how they divide the carries. Hasty still came in on 3rd downs last year when him and Mitchell were both healthy. They just cut Hasty making Mason the most complete 3 down back IMO. I wouldn’t be surprised If it’s a rbbc week 1 with Mason as the 3rd down back.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not at this time, no. I’m in for dynasty, but I probably wouldn’t hold my breath for redraft. It would take 3 injuries ahead of him for him to be relevant, unless he pries away a 3rd down role.
One man’s opinion.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Mason will not be fantasy relevant in 2022 without several injuries. Wilson is the backup to roster. The regular season can’t get here soon enough.
rockaction
Footballguy
I cut this guy a week or two ago in dynasty. And kept Duke Johnson. I no know how to do this anymore.
Naw, he's a UDFA that's behind three guys. I figured it was safe to let him go.
Naw, he's a UDFA that's behind three guys. I figured it was safe to let him go.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s safe to let Duke go too, my friend.
Like Old Yeller, you have to do the right thing for the dude. It’s the promise you made when you adopted him. It might be sad, but it’s time.
He had a good run, and was lucky to be in your pack. But it’s time.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I teared up.It’s safe to let Duke go too, my friend.
Like Old Yeller, you have to do the right thing for the dude. It’s the promise you made when you adopted him. It might be sad, but it’s time.
He had a good run, and was lucky to be in your pack. But it’s time.
rockaction
Footballguy
I know. I know. We get to keep fifty-one, though, and I'm desperate at running back. I'm just looking for guys to chip in and give me a game or two late in the year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Losing a running back can be very sad for a boy @rockaction’s age.I teared up.It’s safe to let Duke go too, my friend.
Like Old Yeller, you have to do the right thing for the dude. It’s the promise you made when you adopted him. It might be sad, but it’s time.
He had a good run, and was lucky to be in your pack. But it’s time.
facook
Footballguy
See Redskins RG3's rookie year. He was not exactly Mr Accurate either. But his rushing ability opened SO many lanes for Alfred Morris. Whoever is getting the bulk of the carries for SF should see plenty of running room (assuming the line does not implode). Lance will be able to throw ENOUGH to keep d's honest imo. If your theory on Mitchell is correct and he is/stays healthy, you'll be fine.
facook
Footballguy
You....you keep 51 players? And you have 51 players on your roster you prefer to taking a flyer on Mason?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
IDP I'm guessing
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. Full IDP 3 DL 3 LB 3 DB. So you need bench spots for each position -- many more at LB and DL where the injuries tend to happen frequently. I weight toward offense and I have thirty-two offensive players. 3 QBs, 4 TEs and 25 RB/WR. I really made this decision weeks ago when he didn't seem a threat to make the team and everything sounded like there was smoke being blown to make a feel-good story. I was wrong. I don't really regret letting him go. He's three injuries away from having a meaningful role.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I can riff on Duke Johnson for a while if that would help?
massraider
Footballguy
He just needed someone to believe in him.
facook
Footballguy
I think Ian Hartitz has that covered.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
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ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
I saw some nice pass pro/chip blocks, route running, split out wide, nice screen play and absolutely horrible qb play.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep - it’s why I spent a 5th on him.Kid can flat out play in every aspect. Check out his passing down usage here- YouTube
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2023 is probably a better bet though.
Chaka
Footballguy
That was your takeaway from that video? What portion of the game did those 5+ minutes cover? Most of those plays were at best mediocre and at worst a #### show. Why should we be putting it all on the QB? How does Mason running in the flat and not getting targeted make it look like he can play?
I want to love this guy but am not sure why I should. The Minnesota breakdown was far more compelling than this video.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yep, what? Breakdown that video for me so I can see why anything that happened it it suggests he elevated.himself above the 10 other guys who didn't do very much.
Most of that clip feels very out of context. Was he even playing with/against NFL talent? Or was it a bunch of UPS drivers & SkyCaps? Even then there were only a few marginally effective plays.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
It’s okay if you can’t see traits or don’t have the patience to watch one of those plays several times. For instance on one of his chip blocks I watched it several times since the angle was far away. He popped the DE quite nicely and moved to the flat. You wouldn’t be able to tell from viewing the play once just how hard he popped him from that angle.
Also the screen play was nice too. He showed decent hands there plucking the ball and turning up field for a nice gain.
Also if you couldn’t tell that was garbage qb play I’m just gonna say sorry I guess?
