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Good call, edited. Haslem is a dud as an owner.menobrown said:You confused me with all that Lerner talk.
Good call, edited. Haslem is a dud as an owner.menobrown said:You confused me with all that Lerner talk.
Yup. Now his piss will be constantly tested.TMZ just posted footage of Hunt getting pulled over. Here it is - https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/27/kareem-hunt-speeding-arrest-marijuana-body-dash-cam-video/
He admits smoking, because he says he would fail a drug test at that moment. He shouldn't have said that.
does he even stay on cleveland....Dorsey was probably the whole reason he was there.....I could see him getting cutLooks like he will be sitting out again... Does Goodell have a "Repeat offender" register where he records names... those who need more than a smack on the wrist to learn?
It appears Hunt is struggling to learn... Another example of missed opportunities & talent wasted. I was fully expecting him to be clean and have a role in Clev.
I see him staying in Cleveland .. but also missing another 8 games 2020 ... they have a "support group for him" and I think this keeps him there.does he even stay on cleveland....Dorsey was probably the whole reason he was there.....I could see him getting cut
That be bad for him. If he gets cut, who will pick him up. He most likely is looking at a suspension and he has 2 knocks in like 13 months. He could be a bad pickup.does he even stay on cleveland....Dorsey was probably the whole reason he was there.....I could see him getting cut
In a police video of Kareem Hunt's Jan. 21 traffic stop obtained by TMZ Sports, Hunt admitted he would "fail an NFL drug test if one were administered to him at the time."
Emotional throughout a lengthy conversation with the officer who pulled him over, Hunt said he had been "fighting a lot of (stuff) lately," and that his release from the Chiefs "still hurts me to this day." Hunt eventually admitted that the marijuana in his vehicle was his, but the officer decided to let him off with only a speeding ticket. The officer was aware of Hunt's off-the-field history, at one point even bringing up the Ray Rice incident while reminding Hunt of his second chance. It is unclear if the NFL will take action. Hunt has never been suspended under the substance-abuse policy.
He's not under contract so they'd just not tender him..I could see him getting cut
but also missing another 8 games 2020 ...
I'd be absolutely shocked if he got so much as a one game suspension over any of this.He most likely is looking at a suspension and he has 2 knocks in like 13 months.
Goodell will Goodell. If he elected to suspend Hunt for a game would that really be shocking? The Commish is much less lenient with players he's already had 'the talk' with.I'd be absolutely shocked if he got so much as a one game suspension over any of this.
As clearly as I can state yes I'd be shocked and frankly not sure what people are talking about with 8 game suspension and sure to be suspended talk.Goodell will Goodell. If he elected to suspend Hunt for a game would that really be shocking? The Commish is much less lenient with players he's already had 'the talk' with.
we don't know if he is in the drug program or not...do we??As clearly as I can state yes I'd be shocked and frankly not sure what people are talking about with 8 game suspension and sure to be suspended talk.
I think people are mixing up the personal conduct policy with leagues policy on drug use.
Getting a speeding ticket for doing 67 in a 50 zone is not getting you suspended under the personal conduct policy, past offender or not.
Getting caught with such a small amount of weed that it did not even merit a citation is not only not enough to get suspended under the NFL' drug policy but you actually have to fail MULTIPLE drug tests for marijuana to get suspended.
This hurt Hunt in terms of Browns possible desire to keep him and other NFL teams viewing him as someone they can't trust. I'm not 100% sure on this but it's possible the video and his admission he'd fail a test is enough to put him in the intervention program so now he has to take multiple random drug tests a year instead of once. This citation and video are fairly awful for a player entering RFA, but I don't think a suspension is forthcoming at all.
He told the cop he had never failed a drug test so I think we do know.we don't know if he is in the drug program or not...do we??
Rocket surgeon?TMZ just posted footage of Hunt getting pulled over. Here it is - https://www.tmz.com/2020/01/27/kareem-hunt-speeding-arrest-marijuana-body-dash-cam-video/
He admits smoking, because he says he would fail a drug test at that moment. He shouldn't have said that.
No, but probably rocket scientist or brain surgeon.Rocket surgeon?
we don't know if he is in the drug program or not...do we??
He told the cop he had never failed a drug test so I think we do know.
I am not sure if him telling a cop he hasn't failed a test can be taken as truth. It's likely he hasn't but I wouldn't be totally confident in that as fact. Apparently a couple of you will take that as fact. I guess that probably mimics the way GM's across the league view it. Some will believe the guy some won't (although I am guessing they have access to know whether or not he has failed a test). It just goes to the point that he is a question mark and doesn't show good decision making skills off the field.I think if Hunt has no more setbacks in the offseason, many teams will be inquiring about him. We now know he smokes weed, but he has never failed a test, which means he isn't in the substance abuse program. That puts him in a category with about what, half the league? All this recent drama has done is lower his price. He's still the same guy who finished as a RB1 in his first 2 seasons, and finished only 2 spots lower than Chubb in the 2nd half of 2019, on 100 less carries.
You take it as fact when he said he'd fail a drug test if administered the day he was pulled over?I am not sure if him telling a cop he hasn't failed a test can be taken as truth. It's likely he hasn't but I wouldn't be totally confident in that as fact. Apparently a couple of you will take that as fact.
I just wouldn't take anything he is saying as fact at this point. His credibility has taken a hit so he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.You take it as fact when he said he'd fail a drug test if administered the day he was pulled over?
I know if I got pulled over while smoking weed I'd be lying about my ability to pass a drug test at that time. Would see no reason to lie to the police officer about having failed a drug test in the past, what would be the point of that?
He did run into a little bit of trouble which is detailed in the link below but with his family history it's pretty hard not to run into some issues. I think he badly needs to get out of the Cleveland/Toledo area for his own good.Did he have trouble staying out of trouble before the NFL?
It doesn't matter if he lied to the cops or not, because the NFL knows if he is in the program or not, and also know if he has ever failed a test. The question is - do all the GM's know who has failed tests, and who is in the program?I am not sure if him telling a cop he hasn't failed a test can be taken as truth. It's likely he hasn't but I wouldn't be totally confident in that as fact. Apparently a couple of you will take that as fact. I guess that probably mimics the way GM's across the league view it. Some will believe the guy some won't (although I am guessing they have access to know whether or not he has failed a test). It just goes to the point that he is a question mark and doesn't show good decision making skills off the field.
If I am a GM I am probably staying away. I would want to do an extensive interview and get a personal feeling about the guy. Either way it's a flag and will affect his value.
I never liked him signing with Cleveland because he's from that area.To each their own but his family history just makes me pull harder for him, has no bearing on what I think of his dynasty stock, will just repeat I think it's in his best interest to get himself out of that area.
Pfffft.........….I already have great RB's so I don't need him....Pffffft.
Were you referring to fantasy football players as GM's?Gally said:Pfffft.........….I already have great RB's so I don't need him....
Some people do. That makes things nice and confusing. People got weirded out by saying they "own" a guy. I don't blame them for that.Were you referring to fantasy football players as GM's?
My original comment was based on being a GM of an NFL franchise......I thought that was what you were Pfftting. So i upped the joke about already being set at the NFL GM aspect of having quality RB's. I guess the joke missed...hahaWere you referring to fantasy football players as GM's?
I blame them. It's about context and when discussing FF if you say you "own" a guy it is obviously meant in the FF sense so why get weirded out? That just seems like you are taking things way to seriously. It's a fake game and just easier to use phrases like "I own Lamar Jackson" for discussion purposes. The context is there so why make it out to be something it's not?Some people do. That makes things nice and confusing. People got weirded out by saying they "own" a guy. I don't blame them for that.
Yeah, I'm generally not politically correct, but it seems weird to say you "own" somebody. I just say I manage a team and roster a guy. Not GM. Leaves nobody confused.I blame them. It's about context and when discussing FF if you say you "own" a guy it is obviously meant in the FF sense so why get weirded out? That just seems like you are taking things way to seriously. It's a fake game and just easier to use phrases like "I own Lamar Jackson" for discussion purposes. The context is there so why make it out to be something it's not?
I don't pay attention to people that try and skew its meaning to something that's not PC. That is totally ridiculous. Some people have way too much time on their hands to worry about crap like that.I blame them. It's about context and when discussing FF if you say you "own" a guy it is obviously meant in the FF sense so why get weirded out? That just seems like you are taking things way to seriously. It's a fake game and just easier to use phrases like "I own Lamar Jackson" for discussion purposes. The context is there so why make it out to be something it's not?
I don't think it is so much time as rather a lack of truly meaningfull things in life to worry about. So they create issues out of a need to fill that void.I don't pay attention to people that try and skew its meaning to something that's not PC. That is totally ridiculous. Some people have way too much time on their hands to worry about crap like that.
You're inferring that from information we haven't been given above, unless you have access to some other quotes.Not a ringing endorsement for OBJ...
"Hunt, he knows he screwed up and is apologetic and wants to be here. OBJ... yeah... that guy... well, we are happy to have him if he can meet our standards..."
I tend to view it similar to how you do as it relates to OBJ.My reading of it is that the owner is PISSED and -this close- to cutting him outright, if Hunt doesn't completely toe the line going forward.
Alternately, I see the front office guys saying that OBJ is fine going forward, they're happy to have him.
ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reports restricted free agent Kareem Hunt expects to remain with the Browns.
Per Fowler, Hunt is hoping for a first-round tender, which is expected to be worth roughly $4.66 million, or a long-term deal. Hunt apparently isn't worried about his recent admission that he would likely fail a drug test. With Nick Chubb established on early downs, $4.66 million would be on the steep side for a third-down back in Hunt, albeit one capable of playing all three downs. Hunt's best bet for maximum earnings is probably still the open market. Leaving Cleveland is without question in the best interest of his fantasy value.
SOURCE: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter
Feb 18, 2020, 3:09 PM ET
Putting up big stats will help him get a big contract next year."Leaving Cleveland is without question in the best interest of his fantasy value."
I'm sure Hunt is very concerned with his fantasy value.