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RB Kareem Hunt, KC (13 Viewers)
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
I don't think we have heard anything definitive yet. I'm in he ain't coming back in time for it to matter camp. For Hunt rosterers that is. If you have Pacheco I probably hold until news comes out. I just think it's going to be an uphill climb for him to rehab in time for us fantasy folks. If Hunt is playing good it will be interesting for sure. I would think the Chiefs would love to have that problem. The majority of the fantasy football regular season for KC from here on out will be the Hunt show. If Pacheco gets back on the field in time for the fantasy playoffs then it will likely be pretty difficult for all of us.
I kind of don't care as long as I can plug in Hunt for two months. When we get to the FF playoffs, show me all the teams rostering Pacheco. Of course there will be many but I'd venture a smaller split.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I firmly believe Pacheco is back between week 9 and 10.
There was no ligament damage.
The bone he broke is not weight bearing. They added a titanium plate to the break during surgery. It needs to heal which takes ~6 weeks, and then it will be stronger than ever.
He absolutely will be back when it matters.
There was no ligament damage.
The bone he broke is not weight bearing. They added a titanium plate to the break during surgery. It needs to heal which takes ~6 weeks, and then it will be stronger than ever.
He absolutely will be back when it matters.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Yeah all this bands back together stuff has been weird.
This has been interesting after the Ray Rice incident lingered; this happened.
KC Chiefs Release Kareem Hunt Over Video of Him Brutalizing Woman
TMZ Sports has obtained video of KC Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt attacking a woman in an Ohio hotel.
www.tmz.com
No team wanted him.
Then he signs with Cleveland to put the incidents in KC behind him. Ummm they happened in Cleveland.
The pr work by teams was so interesting on this as they tried to navigate post Ray Rice
(HULK)
(Smash)
So, some bro in a backward cap who has bad intel (his ankle was fine and uninjured, per the doctor who did the surgery) makes a tweet and you take it as gospel? This injury is NOT like the one Mark Andrews had.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Chona is about as solid as it gets in terms of twitter fantasy docs. Harvard educated and his takes are data driven. Nobody is going to be right all the time but saying Pacheco won't be 100% until next season is what those twitter docs said pretty much across the board when he went down. Granted, the link I provided was from right after the injury and maybe new information has come to light since then.So, some bro in a backward cap who has bad intel (his ankle was fine and uninjured, per the doctor who did the surgery) makes a tweet and you take it as gospel? This injury is NOT like the one Mark Andrews had.
Chona does these concise round ups a few times a week that I find helpful and he's usually pretty accurate.
x.com
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(HULK)
(Smash)
I don't know him so no judgement on him overall.Chona is about as solid as it gets in terms of twitter fantasy docs. Harvard educated and his takes are data driven. Nobody is going to be right all the time but saying Pacheco won't be 100% until next season is what those twitter docs said pretty much across the board when he went down. Granted, the link I provided was from right after the injury and maybe new information has come to light since then.So, some bro in a backward cap who has bad intel (his ankle was fine and uninjured, per the doctor who did the surgery) makes a tweet and you take it as gospel? This injury is NOT like the one Mark Andrews had.
Chona does these concise round ups a few times a week that I find helpful and he's usually pretty accurate.
x.com
The take is wrong because he's assumed the injury is the same as MAndrews' injury and we got info from the surgeon that indicated that it is not. Strangely, there has been very minimal reporting on it since. But, given what we know, the 6-8 week timeline is accurate.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I missed this. Did the surgeon say no ligament damage?
(HULK)
(Smash)
Yes. Exactly that.
It was the same day Coach Reed said he didn't know and it might be the whole year. News came like 3 hours later but it was buried by the Reed comment (which was BEFORE the surgery). No ligament damage, clean break of a non-weight bearing bone, they slapped a titanium plate over the break to re-enforce. 6-8 weeks to heal and he should be good as new (maybe more so given the plate).
(HULK)
(Smash)
FYI, for those who need to see it from somewhere reputable:
www.nbcsports.com
Isiah Pacheco undergoes "successful" leg surgery
When an NFL player has surgery, it's always successful; the player never got butchered.
www.nbcsports.com
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
Chona didn't dispute the timeline of Pacheco's return. He said this injury typically involves a high ankle which means the player's explosiveness doesn't return until about the six month mark. That would be true with or without the fracture. The doctor who performed the surgery said there were no ligament issues (he needed to repair). I guess we will see what Pacheco is in week 8 or 10 but as a Pacheco owner I am not expecting him to be at 100% right upon return. Happy to be wrong.FYI, for those who need to see it from somewhere reputable:
Isiah Pacheco undergoes "successful" leg surgery
When an NFL player has surgery, it's always successful; the player never got butchered.
(HULK)
(Smash)
You understand that a sprain is mild ligament damage, right? There is no sprain, just the break. Or the doctor missed something (possible) or just outright lied in his report (unlikely).Chona didn't dispute the timeline of Pacheco's return. He said this injury typically involves a high ankle which means the player's explosiveness doesn't return until about the six month mark. That would be true with or without the fracture. The doctor who performed the surgery said there were no ligament issues (he needed to repair). I guess we will see what Pacheco is in week 8 or 10 but as a Pacheco owner I am not expecting him to be at 100% right upon return. Happy to be wrong.FYI, for those who need to see it from somewhere reputable:
Isiah Pacheco undergoes "successful" leg surgery
When an NFL player has surgery, it's always successful; the player never got butchered.
I expect he'll need some tone up time from being off his leg for 2 months but nothing like what we've seen with tightrope surgery folks, nothing at all like that. Pacheco is going to be stomping the ground like it disrespected his mamma come November.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
He said he didn't repair any ligaments. That doesn't mean there isn't plenty to heal on it's own. But we can't really parse that either so I'd say that your take is closest to accurate in terms of the timeline. But there absolutely was ligament damage, even if just a mild sprain. And if true, with the rest and immobilization that will come with the broken leg, any mild sprains should take care of themselves during that time as well. So the timeline might look good as you say. But taking that the doctor didn't repair any ligaments and saying that is equal to "there was no sprain" is not true. Unless I missed it in there somewhere where he specifically said there was no sprain.You understand that a sprain is mild ligament damage, right? There is no sprain, just the break. Or the doctor missed something (possible) or just outright lied in his report (unlikely).Chona didn't dispute the timeline of Pacheco's return. He said this injury typically involves a high ankle which means the player's explosiveness doesn't return until about the six month mark. That would be true with or without the fracture. The doctor who performed the surgery said there were no ligament issues (he needed to repair). I guess we will see what Pacheco is in week 8 or 10 but as a Pacheco owner I am not expecting him to be at 100% right upon return. Happy to be wrong.FYI, for those who need to see it from somewhere reputable:
Isiah Pacheco undergoes "successful" leg surgery
When an NFL player has surgery, it's always successful; the player never got butchered.
I expect he'll need some tone up time from being off his leg for 2 months but nothing like what we've seen with tightrope surgery folks, nothing at all like that. Pacheco is going to be stomping the ground like it disrespected his mamma come November.
jm192
Footballguy
I think for the sake of this conversation "ligament damage" implies significant ligamentous injury that would increase his recovery time. I don't think a mild ankle sprain significantly affects his recovery. Ankle sprains heal/recover with rest. He's going to rest. Guys frequently play throughHe said he didn't repair any ligaments. That doesn't mean there isn't plenty to heal on it's own. But we can't really parse that either so I'd say that your take is closest to accurate in terms of the timeline. But there absolutely was ligament damage, even if just a mild sprain. And if true, with the rest and immobilization that will come with the broken leg, any mild sprains should take care of themselves during that time as well. So the timeline might look good as you say. But taking that the doctor didn't repair any ligaments and saying that is equal to "there was no sprain" is not true. Unless I missed it in there somewhere where he specifically said there was no sprain.You understand that a sprain is mild ligament damage, right? There is no sprain, just the break. Or the doctor missed something (possible) or just outright lied in his report (unlikely).Chona didn't dispute the timeline of Pacheco's return. He said this injury typically involves a high ankle which means the player's explosiveness doesn't return until about the six month mark. That would be true with or without the fracture. The doctor who performed the surgery said there were no ligament issues (he needed to repair). I guess we will see what Pacheco is in week 8 or 10 but as a Pacheco owner I am not expecting him to be at 100% right upon return. Happy to be wrong.FYI, for those who need to see it from somewhere reputable:
Isiah Pacheco undergoes "successful" leg surgery
When an NFL player has surgery, it's always successful; the player never got butchered.
I expect he'll need some tone up time from being off his leg for 2 months but nothing like what we've seen with tightrope surgery folks, nothing at all like that. Pacheco is going to be stomping the ground like it disrespected his mamma come November.
I don't think he'll be 100% where he was the 1st week back. But I don't think we should be worried about a mild ankle sprain extending it.
FWIW, I went out and got Hunt in about 1/3 of my FAAB leagues for ~25% of my budget last night. I'm not here to hate on Hunt. I'm not convinced he's going to be as good as he was in week 4 every single week. But between injuries and bye weeks--I felt like I had to take my shot on the upside.
Yes. Hunt is the #1 back on an offense with high potential. He can do it all. And he looked great in his first game. FWIW, PFF has Hunt>>Perine>Steele.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Good RB depth is hard to find. Especially those who can be starters on winning teams. Nabbed him last night. I just don’t believe in any of their other backs. Steele fumbled away any trust. Perine is the ultimate JAG and couldn’t get the job over Steele. And CEH has been disappointing for years. Now he has PTSD on top of that? No thanks. Hunt looked the part. And if it’s true he was slowed by hernias last year and is healthy now all the better. It’s his job to lose and I don’t see RB’s like Pacheco coming back from broken legs in season very often.
