Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Good points, and I think I'd buy it more if we were talking about McKinnon. He seems like a better fit for what you described.
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.
RB Kareem Hunt, KC (13 Viewers)
- Thread starter Biabreakable
- Start date
rockaction
Footballguy
That's exactly who I had in mind. Wonder how much it would take to get him off of the couch. No stone unturned and all that.
I should say I'm not being a killjoy; I blew a bunch of money on Carson Steele as an RFA in our league after his preseason game (our undrafted rookies and rosterless players have to be bid upon and the highest bid that stays constant for two days gets that player on his or her roster) and I'm hoping Steele blows up, but Hunt certainly has been a good back in the league for a long time.
Who happens to be washed, IMO.
markrc99
Footballguy
Reviewing Steele's week 3 performance, there are plays where his power really stands out. Appears used to being in tight quarters, lateral movement is limited but shows some late slip. The better RBs have the ability to see & counter unanticipated penetration in the backfield. It's just one play (@0.05 of the video) but if it's any indication, it's a trait Steele doesn't possess. More upright than desired but did get behind his pads to finish some of those.
The screen they set up, to me he has ample time to square up & break back up inside of #95. The DB that makes the tackle takes a great angle, gears down, goes low & wraps up. For owners, a lot of boxes checked. Positive game script, commitment to balance, good run blocking & the shoddy tackling we sometimes see. They may be hoping Hunt is that complement to Steele. I agree that Hunt being activated is depth-related. Steele has to lose the job & if they continue to block like that & they're not behind, he's the one to have.
www.youtube.com
The screen they set up, to me he has ample time to square up & break back up inside of #95. The DB that makes the tackle takes a great angle, gears down, goes low & wraps up. For owners, a lot of boxes checked. Positive game script, commitment to balance, good run blocking & the shoddy tackling we sometimes see. They may be hoping Hunt is that complement to Steele. I agree that Hunt being activated is depth-related. Steele has to lose the job & if they continue to block like that & they're not behind, he's the one to have.
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
www.youtube.com
markrc99
Footballguy
Could be that clear-cut a situation, but not necessarily. There are other reasons that may have factored with respect to other teams. When the Chiefs initially brought him in it seems likely he did not pass the eye test. But that may be a situation & setting that wouldn't have provided a definitive answer. Some of them, get 'em in the game with the ball in their hands & it's like rocket fuel.
In the two leagues where I added Hunt I've since dropped him. Part of the reason is Carson Steele's performance, but more so because the Giants play tomorrow & the Chiefs on Sunday. Really high on Tyrone Tracy jr. who saw an uptick in usage. Converted WR, so he was never an out of the gate prospect. His latest note @NFL.com says he had 5 carries & 2 receptions this past week. But we see from his tape it was actually 4 & 3. It's that perceived momentum & what the player is doing with the chances he does get.
- YouTube
Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.
www.youtube.com
Big Nate
Footballguy
Curious to see how many snaps Hunt gets. Saw an interview yesterday with Andy who had some good things to say about his running. If he's hitting the right holes and executing properly he likely keeps getting reps.
Will this be a 2 or 3 way split backfield? Perine had 10 touches last game as well and most of the passing work.
Will this be a 2 or 3 way split backfield? Perine had 10 touches last game as well and most of the passing work.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Hunt is a 3 down back
I have nothing to go on here but feelings but I think Hunt is just depth. It’s a nice story but there a reason he wasn’t on a roster this year.
Carson had 18 touches last week, Perine 9.
Could it change? Sure. My bet is Steele is the guy to have in the KC backfield for now.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
I think Hunt is more than just depth .. He has chemistry with the guys, knows the offense, and has a chip on his shoulder to right his wrongs from his last stint with the franchise
dmac37
Footballguy
It is a shame that many of Hunt's prime years were somewhat wasted in Cleveland backing up Chubb. I get when he signed with them after the suspension but he should have moved on to a feature role after his first year with the Browns. I will be surprised if we see anything close to prime Hunt from 3 years ago.
I'm team Steele for the KC backfield leader this year but most likely an RBBC nightmare.
I'm team Steele for the KC backfield leader this year but most likely an RBBC nightmare.
Hunt was last there 6 years ago. lol.
dmac37
Footballguy
Agree, curious to see if Steele remains the early down back with Hunt and Perine sharing the passing down work or if Hunt now gets more early down work.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
He’s still only 29 with a lot of tread left on the tires
I assume you’re a Hunt manager or will be soon and that’s ok.
As you are well aware most RBs are done by 29. Hunt is considered old for his position.
markrc99
Footballguy
There's no debating how Perine has been utilized in recent years, nor that his production has improved with each passing year. Agreed, agreed, agreed, but he is NOT that player. When he came out he was an inside banger who didn't even run in the 4.5s. In fact, not even close. Point being, I think Hunt is going to assume the down & distance stuff. Today, we see OCs try to stay away from tendency & have every 'back doing everything. But when the situation demands 3-down utility, if he's still got it, he's their best option.
"Part of a three man rotation:
Coach Andy Reid said Wednesday that Hunt will rotate in during Sunday's game against the Chargers... Steele remains the favorite to handle the majority of reps on early downs..." NFL.com
LawFitz
Footballguy
Gonna be an RBBBC (3 B's) until one gets hurt or one stands out. No way I am assuming the standout won't be Hunt. Reminder that last year when so many became convinced he was washed, he was dealing with a hernia, which was repaired 9 months ago. There are two other 'old' RBs who the consensus were convinced washed heading into this season and are now ranked RB 1 and 2 overall, by a pretty wide margin after three weeks. Both those RBs share Hunt's 3-down skillset, BTW.
And to top off that thought, off the three B's here, I think Steele is the most likely to get hit by attrition, given his running style. Even last weekend, I saw him take a nasty shot to the chest late in the game and get up and come off the field gingerly. That could easily be a harbinger. Dude runs hard, and I love him for it, but it's not a style built to last, even if he seems to be otherwise.
This situation is extremely fluid. No one should be convinced of anything just yet.
And to top off that thought, off the three B's here, I think Steele is the most likely to get hit by attrition, given his running style. Even last weekend, I saw him take a nasty shot to the chest late in the game and get up and come off the field gingerly. That could easily be a harbinger. Dude runs hard, and I love him for it, but it's not a style built to last, even if he seems to be otherwise.
This situation is extremely fluid. No one should be convinced of anything just yet.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I am convinced Crocodile Blondie will be showered with panties from the stands after he gets his first rushing TD this weekend.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I am convinced Crocodile Blondie will be showered with panties from the stands after he gets his first rushing TD this weekend.
I am starting him in Shark Pool Uno, so I hope so!
JAA
Footballguy
I think he will be the bellcow in 3 weeks.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Really? Your RBs must be pretty bad or injured.I am convinced Crocodile Blondie will be showered with panties from the stands after he gets his first rushing TD this weekend.
I am starting him in Shark Pool Uno, so I hope so!
Birdie048
Footballguy
Absolutely agree here. Starting 3Down RBs down sit on couch eating Cheetos all summer and arrive Week 4 ready to play!! Even if Hunt has some juice left, it will take him a few weeks conditioning to get close to sharing more than a few snaps.
More like he will be ringing Cow Bells at the State Fair soon
well, there was the incident that caused him to lose his starting gig in KC to begin with.
then he was playing in cleveland and got beat out by Chubb who may have been one of the top 5 RB in the NFL.
he left cleveland and really couldnt pick up elsewhere. but part of it I think is due to that incident he was suspended for.
of late he hasnt been healthy. which hasnt helped.
but I dont think his ability to play on a roster was fully limited due to skillset. it was other things.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Didn’t they cut him 6 years ago?
JAA
Footballguy
I believe he is not actively rostered because of off the field issues and AR has enough political capital to make it happen.
I only targeted Hunt when KC signed him due to injury. That is the type of story which plays out in the press IMO.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He’s a changed man now.
But I hope he is
Last edited:
yeah, for beating the crap out of his girlfriend. not due to on field performance
agreed. and a sports hernia is a bad injury for a RB to have. elusiveness is one of those things that largely comes from core body strength and when you have a hernia, you just cant bend and twist the torso to escape tackles like you would if fully healthy.
though usually once you perform the surgery and recover, its okay. I'm not sure what the recovery time is but I suspect hes mostly (if not all) better now
I'm not really knocking him for not having a job until now. No team was going to bring in Hunt this Spring with the goal of featuring him in the offense in any way. I think it was probably in his best interests to let the season start and see what opportunities open up via injury.
markrc99
Footballguy
I've read that Hunt wanted to go to a team where he'd play & for a contender.
"Browns coach Kevin Stefanski praised Hunt's work ethic and contributions during his end-of-season news conference earlier this month. "Well, I'll say this ... I'm so appreciative of him and the way he played ... Obviously, pre-injury to Nick [Chubb], we didn't have a spot, but to Kareem's credit, he stayed in great shape. We brought him in, worked him out. He looked great, picked back up the system right away and played really good football for us and made plays in high-leverage moments and scored touchdowns," Stefanski said."
Sources: Hunt had surgery for ruptured adductor
Browns running back Kareem Hunt recently underwent sports hernia surgery to repair a ruptured adductor, sources told ESPN.
"... which Hunt said was part of Reid's advice to him upon his return to the team. "He knows what type of person I am," Hunt said of Reid. "He just said, 'Man, do what you've been doing, keep your nose clean and stay focused, and everything's going to come full circle for you.'"
All coach-speak I suppose, but the part regarding his conditioning I would say is consistent from Stefanski & now, right?
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
So I guess this dude is playing today.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Calling my shot that he earns the 4 minute / 2 minute / 3rd down role today with Steele being the early down guy. Perine is the one who will be the odd man out.
rockaction
Footballguy
Not washed. How about that . . .
Getting the important work in the heart of the game here. Steele fumbled in the first and lost the ball.
Getting the important work in the heart of the game here. Steele fumbled in the first and lost the ball.
floods
Footballguy
Lost much more than the ball, it appears.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
14/69
2/16
...CYE
-Rice done for the season, offense about to change and not for the better
karl.Racki
Footballguy
I said it, and people argued.. Hunt is still a beast.. He is as physical as any RB out there.. People thought Perine and some dude named Carson was better LOL
The Frankman
Footballguy
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Lmao .. Rookie mistake
joey
Footballguy
With Rice out, I wonder if they don’t lean on Hunt and Kelce (obviously) even more.
jm192
Footballguy
How heavy would you be with your FAAB bid if he's available?
I've got a few competitive leagues where no one pulled the trigger. I really thought he was cooked. I really thought it would be more of a committee. To get such a large share of the work his 1st week in action...wow.
I've got a few competitive leagues where no one pulled the trigger. I really thought he was cooked. I really thought it would be more of a committee. To get such a large share of the work his 1st week in action...wow.
LawFitz
Footballguy
I would at least consider an all-in bid. Only reservation is age/mileage, but Kamara, Henry, Saquan and Jacobs are all proving those tropes flawed at minimum.
the moops
Footballguy
Selling high is hardly a bad move
