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RB Kareem Hunt, KC (2 Viewers)

Picked this guy up for free and the Steele owner offered my a 2025 3rd. The guy has a solid roster when his team is healty, but also all of these guys are key injuries(Only startable QB is Daniel Jones, Tua, Kupp, CMC, Tyreek, Mostert, starting TE is Freirmuth) or will be less effective b/c of injuries to their QB - so the pick could be a high 3, seems like a no brainer to take this deal right? I have good enough RB depth on this team and am also dying to acquire another WR2/WR3 (lost Puka) so part of me wants to hold in case he somehow pops off to try to get a WR, the other part of me believes he's toast and I should take the offer while its out there.
 
"Picked this guy up for free and the Steele owner offered my a 2025 3rd. ... - so the pick could be a high 3, seems like a no brainer to take this deal right?"
Yeah, no brainer... I mean, there is this from just earlier:

"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him."
You're going to leave your brain out of this, right!!? You just said as much! :)
 
Seeing that it was mentioned the Pacheco could miss the year, I am now slightly higher on Steele and Kareem Hunt.

That said, in that event, I still think it will be an RBBc from hell.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Had no idea he was their RB coach but either way I'd put a lot more stock in him saying that Kareem still has it if he actually had ever been around Kareem before now.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Had no idea he was their RB coach but either way I'd put a lot more stock in him saying that Kareem still has it if he actually had ever been around Kareem before now.
I have no idea if he is good or not. I was just making a joke.

ETA: Seems like an odd hire to take an average-ish WR and have him be a RB coach.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Had no idea he was their RB coach but either way I'd put a lot more stock in him saying that Kareem still has it if he actually had ever been around Kareem before now.
I have no idea if he is good or not. I was just making a joke.

ETA: Seems like an odd hire to take an average-ish WR and have him be a RB coach.
Yes knew you were joking but I was not. If someone from the staff when Hunt played for the Chiefs, like Nagy, had said what Pinkston did I'd find that relevant.

And yes he seems like a super odd hire. Not sure the line of thinking: "So Todd, you were a tall lean WR with good speed who played a pretty much finesse game and underwhelmed. We think you'd make a great RB coach"

I even googled him to see if he had got prior experience at another stop and I saw he was the WR coach at Austin Peay for a few seasons and has not done anything since 2021. Super odd hire. You could have given me like over 1000 guesses to name their RB coach and I'd not have got warm.
 
"...I even googled him to see if he had got prior experience at another stop and I saw he was the WR coach at Austin Peay for a few seasons and has not done anything since 2021. Super odd hire. ..."
The connection is Pinkston played for Reid while they were both in Philly.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Comments from coaches and staff in these situations don't really move me. Is he really going to say, "Well, Hunt is a total slug. No one consulted me on this signing. Might as well just have lit a match to a pile of money. What do they expect me to do with this guy? Use him as a blocking sled? The only way this guy will see the field is to pick up the tee after kickoffs."
 
I understand the connection but it does not fail to make it an odd hire.
Oaky, let's just concede that part. Multiple scouting reports note that there are aspects to Steele's game that need work. If Pinkston isn't qualified for the position which of the RBs would be affected more?
 
I understand the connection but it does not fail to make it an odd hire.
Oaky, let's just concede that part. Multiple scouting reports note that there are aspects to Steele's game that need work. If Pinkston isn't qualified for the position which of the RBs would be affected more?
For the record I don't know if Pinkston is not qualified, I don't question Andy Rieds decision making very often, just an odd resume/hire.

But if he's not up to the task then I think that would be Steele instead of two vets thought it's at least possible under the scenario that Pinkston is not qualifed that it makes the process of integrating two players recently signed take longer and that's where Steele would have a leg up right now.
 
"Comments from coaches and staff in these situations don't really move me. Is he really going to say..."
No, it's often vanilla-beaned. But the rule by which they play by is no follow up.. to their own snowballs. Nothing prevents any coach from complete deflection. Could've just as easily said: "Oh Kareem, glad you ask. He's an old pro, he knows how to put the uniform on! He's real excited to be here." I wouldn't believe that Hunt is anywhere near his prime but I do think we're past the; he's washed phase.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Comments from coaches and staff in these situations don't really move me. Is he really going to say, "Well, Hunt is a total slug. No one consulted me on this signing. Might as well just have lit a match to a pile of money. What do they expect me to do with this guy? Use him as a blocking sled? The only way this guy will see the field is to pick up the tee after kickoffs."
Yeah, like asking a GM what they think of the dude they just drafted.

Gonna be a total Pollyanna response for sure.
 
I don't. Reid and the Chiefs will sign old and washed backs. Witness LeSean McCoy in '18 or '19. His coachspeak means nothing. They'll flat lie through their teeth.
Yeah, you guys are right. I will say, I had McCoy then, what did him in was how he carried the ball like a loaf of bread thru traffic.
 
I don't. Reid and the Chiefs will sign old and washed backs. Witness LeSean McCoy in '18 or '19. His coachspeak means nothing. They'll flat lie through their teeth.
Yeah, you guys are right. I will say, I had McCoy then, what did him in was how he carried the ball like a loaf of bread thru traffic.

You did point out a good nuance in coachspeak, but I think that went out the window a bit ago. McVay will just look you stone cold in the face and lie. So will Reid.

But that does not mean that Hunt is definitely washed. It just means we can't really infer anything from Todd Pinkston's coachspeak.
 
Yes knew you were joking but I was not. If someone from the staff when Hunt played for the Chiefs, like Nagy, had said what Pinkston did I'd find that relevant.

And yes he seems like a super odd hire. Not sure the line of thinking: "So Todd, you were a tall lean WR with good speed who played a pretty much finesse game and underwhelmed. We think you'd make a great RB coach"

I even googled him to see if he had got prior experience at another stop and I saw he was the WR coach at Austin Peay for a few seasons and has not done anything since 2021. Super odd hire. You could have given me like over 1000 guesses to name their RB coach and I'd not have got warm.
Pinkston was an associate head coach at a high school in Georgia, before doing an internship with Andy Reid in the summer of '22. Andy hired him to be the RB's coach last year, and he took over for Greg Lewis who was also originally a WR under Andy Reid. Pinkston (and Lewis) having played in Andy's offensive system in the past is beneficial. Andy said he saw Pinkston's potential as a coach when he played for him in Philly. He said he was really good at teaching the young guys coming up below him, and felt he would make a good coach if he wanted to do that. Pacheco said he thinks it is funny that both of his RB coaches since he has been with the Chiefs were WRs, and it actually helped Pacheco learn to catch the ball better as a RB. Anyway, I imagine Andy finds whatever Pinkston says regarding their RBs relevant.
 
Pinkston was an associate head coach at a high school in Georgia, before doing an internship with Andy Reid in the summer of '22. Andy hired him to be the RB's coach last year, and he took over for Greg Lewis who was also originally a WR under Andy Reid. Pinkston (and Lewis) having played in Andy's offensive system in the past is beneficial. Andy said he saw Pinkston's potential as a coach when he played for him in Philly. He said he was really good at teaching the young guys coming up below him, and felt he would make a good coach if he wanted to do that. Pacheco said he thinks it is funny that both of his RB coaches since he has been with the Chiefs were WRs, and it actually helped Pacheco learn to catch the ball better as a RB. Anyway, I imagine Andy finds whatever Pinkston says regarding their RBs relevant.
I've read that his dad was a coach. But the counter here is that his comment is junk because if the truth is contrary, there's no way he can effectively convey that to us. Which is false imo. For owners, Steele has some shortcomings, but if he knocks it out of the park this week, it's over. If he doesn't & they lose, then what?
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Had no idea he was their RB coach but either way I'd put a lot more stock in him saying that Kareem still has it if he actually had ever been around Kareem before now.
imagine a coach where a player was added to his team said "Does he still got it? Not a chance he's done but we need bodies just in case more guys get injured"
 
I think if he was washed the coach would just say something super safe and PC from the school of Bull Durham. "Kareem just got here we're just getting him going and starting the eval process. One day at a time."

He was a WR, though, so look out for "in your ear".
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.


Hunt won't be elevated to the active roster ahead of Sunday night's game against the Falcons, Matt McMullen of the Chiefs' official site reports.
 
Some of you are so jaded & in the broadest sense, rightfully so. But this is a player they chucked onto the scrap heap when he was a star. Here they bring him in for an eval & they're stuck somehow? .. No, they are not! Reid's rhetoric is not if but when. We're the fantasy community, do TDs matter? They do. Question: what year did Kareem Hunt score the most rushing TDs of his career? ha-ha
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.
There are 3 guys (Perine, Steele and Ingram) who have been there longer and are 100% up to speed on the playbook and in football shape. I mentioned this earlier that Hunt likely wouldn't suit up with this short prep time.

Him playing this week has no impact on if he will be good or not. It is just time to get more comfortable with the team, the playbook and into a bit better shape.

Steele is there STs guy so he isn't going anywhere. Perine is the vet who can do it all. Ingram was moved off the PR as to likely give him a few carries this week to see if he's worth keeping around. If Ingram doesn't do or show much then Hunt gets activated next week.
 
Might want to review how things went down again, what Hunt did, and how Hunt handled things was when he was asked about it by the team/coaches.
There was him out of control, then .. he's charged, something. The team asks about it & he denies fully or doesn't disclose anything close to what the TMZ video later exposes. I haven't worded the team's response well enough? Others are going on as if they just paid him $50M or he was a 1st rd pick... If he didn't show them anything he'd already be gone!
 
Might want to review how things went down again, what Hunt did, and how Hunt handled things was when he was asked about it by the team/coaches.
There was him out of control, then .. he's charged, something. The team asks about it & he denies fully or doesn't disclose anything close to what the TMZ video later exposes. I haven't worded the team's response well enough? Others are going on as if they just paid him $50M or he was a 1st rd pick... If he didn't show them anything he'd already be gone!
I'm having a hard time following your posts. No shade, I'm just struggling. No harm meant here, it is all good.

What I was getting at is you said they just tossed him aside. The team had good reasons for moving on from him at the time. What went down was serious and he seemed to not take responsibility for it. He's actually lucky he was still able to play football. It also seems like Andy is willing to give him a second shot.
 
Picked this guy up for free and the Steele owner offered my a 2025 3rd. The guy has a solid roster when his team is healty, but also all of these guys are key injuries(Only startable QB is Daniel Jones, Tua, Kupp, CMC, Tyreek, Mostert, starting TE is Freirmuth) or will be less effective b/c of injuries to their QB - so the pick could be a high 3, seems like a no brainer to take this deal right? I have good enough RB depth on this team and am also dying to acquire another WR2/WR3 (lost Puka) so part of me wants to hold in case he somehow pops off to try to get a WR, the other part of me believes he's toast and I should take the offer while its out there.
I would accept for sure.

Hunt was jobless, now he's 4th string.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Comments from coaches and staff in these situations don't really move me. Is he really going to say, "Well, Hunt is a total slug. No one consulted me on this signing. Might as well just have lit a match to a pile of money. What do they expect me to do with this guy? Use him as a blocking sled? The only way this guy will see the field is to pick up the tee after kickoffs."
I hope some day this happens.

I imagine this is how Jerry Burns felt after they traded for Hershel Walker.
 
"Chiefs RB coach Todd Pinkston on RB Kareem Hunt: "He has it. He still has it. We've just got to get him up to speed. A lot of the stuff he's doing now, it's coming back to him." https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/1fkr1eg/chiefs_rb_coach_todd_pinkston_on_rb_kareem_hunt/
What does he know? He was a WR not a RB.................hahahhaha
Comments from coaches and staff in these situations don't really move me. Is he really going to say, "Well, Hunt is a total slug. No one consulted me on this signing. Might as well just have lit a match to a pile of money. What do they expect me to do with this guy? Use him as a blocking sled? The only way this guy will see the field is to pick up the tee after kickoffs."
I hope some day this happens.

I imagine this is how Jerry Burns felt after they traded for Hershel Walker.
The fake AI press conferences that use similar voices to trash people are pretty funny.
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.
There are 3 guys (Perine, Steele and Ingram) who have been there longer and are 100% up to speed on the playbook and in football shape. I mentioned this earlier that Hunt likely wouldn't suit up with this short prep time.

Him playing this week has no impact on if he will be good or not. It is just time to get more comfortable with the team, the playbook and into a bit better shape.

Steele is there STs guy so he isn't going anywhere. Perine is the vet who can do it all. Ingram was moved off the PR as to likely give him a few carries this week to see if he's worth keeping around. If Ingram doesn't do or show much then Hunt gets activated next week.
Perine has been given plenty of chances in the past he's not it or he would have been at this point. Still stand by my statement I'll be shocked if Hunt comes aboard and is relevant. Great chance and opportunity for Steele to take over if he doesn't then they will have a below average group of RB and will need to rely on their defense and upgraded WR from last season.
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.
There are 3 guys (Perine, Steele and Ingram) who have been there longer and are 100% up to speed on the playbook and in football shape. I mentioned this earlier that Hunt likely wouldn't suit up with this short prep time.

Him playing this week has no impact on if he will be good or not. It is just time to get more comfortable with the team, the playbook and into a bit better shape.

Steele is there STs guy so he isn't going anywhere. Perine is the vet who can do it all. Ingram was moved off the PR as to likely give him a few carries this week to see if he's worth keeping around. If Ingram doesn't do or show much then Hunt gets activated next week.
Perine has been given plenty of chances in the past he's not it or he would have been at this point. Still stand by my statement I'll be shocked if Hunt comes aboard and is relevant. Great chance and opportunity for Steele to take over if he doesn't then they will have a below average group of RB and will need to rely on their defense and upgraded WR from last season.
Of all the ways this could play out, someone "taking over" seems the least likely.
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.
There are 3 guys (Perine, Steele and Ingram) who have been there longer and are 100% up to speed on the playbook and in football shape. I mentioned this earlier that Hunt likely wouldn't suit up with this short prep time.

Him playing this week has no impact on if he will be good or not. It is just time to get more comfortable with the team, the playbook and into a bit better shape.

Steele is there STs guy so he isn't going anywhere. Perine is the vet who can do it all. Ingram was moved off the PR as to likely give him a few carries this week to see if he's worth keeping around. If Ingram doesn't do or show much then Hunt gets activated next week.
Perine has been given plenty of chances in the past he's not it or he would have been at this point. Still stand by my statement I'll be shocked if Hunt comes aboard and is relevant. Great chance and opportunity for Steele to take over if he doesn't then they will have a below average group of RB and will need to rely on their defense and upgraded WR from last season.
Of all the ways this could play out, someone "taking over" seems the least likely.
except for Hunt. He's the only one that could fit that role. He has done it before and Reid has done it before. Not saying it is going to happen but I do agree the others won't.

Also, I don't need him to be a top12 RB I just need him to produce some chalk for me. There are so few workhorses anymore anyway that if he does get some kind of split 1A role 1B role it will have paid off handsomely.
 
If the Chiefs thought Hunt could still contribute more than what they current have they would have evaluated him to the active roster ahead of the game Sunday.
There are 3 guys (Perine, Steele and Ingram) who have been there longer and are 100% up to speed on the playbook and in football shape. I mentioned this earlier that Hunt likely wouldn't suit up with this short prep time.

Him playing this week has no impact on if he will be good or not. It is just time to get more comfortable with the team, the playbook and into a bit better shape.

Steele is there STs guy so he isn't going anywhere. Perine is the vet who can do it all. Ingram was moved off the PR as to likely give him a few carries this week to see if he's worth keeping around. If Ingram doesn't do or show much then Hunt gets activated next week.
Perine has been given plenty of chances in the past he's not it or he would have been at this point. Still stand by my statement I'll be shocked if Hunt comes aboard and is relevant. Great chance and opportunity for Steele to take over if he doesn't then they will have a below average group of RB and will need to rely on their defense and upgraded WR from last season.
Of all the ways this could play out, someone "taking over" seems the least likely.
except for Hunt. He's the only one that could fit that role. He has done it before and Reid has done it before. Not saying it is going to happen but I do agree the others won't.

Also, I don't need him to be a top12 RB I just need him to produce some chalk for me. There are so few workhorses anymore anyway that if he does get some kind of split 1A role 1B role it will have paid off handsomely.
Excellent lottery ticket for folks who got him off WW. RB1 upside (imo unlikely), but even RB2/flex production would be a massive early-season win due to positional scarcity. Or if he has even one single huge game, could be quick turnaround trade bait to shore up other positions.
 
Kareem being signed to the active roster and Keaontay Ingram being released is a good thing, right? Didn't expect Hunt to play week 3. What should we expect for week 4? Asking for a friend.
 
Kareem being signed to the active roster and Keaontay Ingram being released is a good thing, right? Didn't expect Hunt to play week 3. What should we expect for week 4? Asking for a friend.

I think Steele earned another start. Maybe some 3rd down work for Hunt. Prob 3-5 carries at best.
 
Picked this guy up for free and the Steele owner offered my a 2025 3rd. The guy has a solid roster when his team is healty, but also all of these guys are key injuries(Only startable QB is Daniel Jones, Tua, Kupp, CMC, Tyreek, Mostert, starting TE is Freirmuth) or will be less effective b/c of injuries to their QB - so the pick could be a high 3, seems like a no brainer to take this deal right? I have good enough RB depth on this team and am also dying to acquire another WR2/WR3 (lost Puka) so part of me wants to hold in case he somehow pops off to try to get a WR, the other part of me believes he's toast and I should take the offer while its out there.
I would accept for sure.

Hunt was jobless, now he's 4th string.
Kind of let this offer stay out there and so did he. So I accepted it today. Guy's team is a hot pile of trash burning right now, so hopefully this turns out to be a higher 3.

Most of the sentiment about him being washed in this thread basically got me going in the right direction. Thanks guys!
 
Okay here we go. Now this gets interesting. Would not start Hunt this week. But he is on the active roster. There is no more practice squad. So he either continues this redemption journey or they release him.
 
I think do think we're past the; he's washed phase.

I don't. Reid and the Chiefs will sign old and washed backs. Witness LeSean McCoy in '18 or '19. His coachspeak means nothing. They'll flat lie through their teeth.
I agree with you. And remember, they still need depth in case more RBs get hurt. So with CEH potentially returning and Hunt, they have enough to get by. If he still had it, it wouldn't have taken a major injury to get him off the street and onto a roster. He wasn't even on a practice squad, and Chubb is on IR. The Browns know who he is better than anyone and he wasn't worth a PS spot to them.

Now, no KC RB will face a stacked box so he could be productive if given the role. I just don't think he'll be given the role without even more injuries.
 
I just don't think he'll be given the role without even more injuries.

I have a sort of working theory and that working theory is that Andy Reid is going to use whoever is on the field when the offense is effective and will attribute that success, in part, to the back in the backfield. So it's entirely possible (to me) that Hunt is kind of washed but still wins the job through pass protection and knowing where to be in the offense for dump offs and check downs. If you take this line of thought seriously or find it compelling, then it might not take an injury for him to win the job.

I think he's washed, personally, but I'll bet he runs a 4.75 at this point in his career and he's a bull. I don't see much separating (including CEH) all of these sort of plodding backs that KC has right now. Reid cutting Ingram shows that they're not valuing speed so what do I know?

But the whole efficient offense determining who plays in the backfield isn't so ridiculous; or it is, and it's just a thought I had.
 

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