RB Kenneth Walker III - SEA (2 Viewers)

[Payne]

But you're getting 1st round production at the cost of a 4th and 11th.

You would have last year, with Geo, DKM & an entirely different coaching staff.

No guarantee you’re getting that this year.

Also in the leagues I had KW, people “reached” for Charbs in the 9th/10th, so what I got was a 4th round bust who couldn’t stay on the field.

Tomato/tomahto I guess.

This is a better indicator of where he goes in my leagues and anytime I have taken Walker for me to get Charbs I'd have had to move in the 9th or early 10th and even then it's been to late. Actually my last two drafts I took Walker if I did not take Charbs in the 8th I never got a chance to take him in the 9th.

This is why I find it annoying when Walker goes down and people start spouting off about how you must have Charbs if you have Walker. It's nice sure but it's not that easy or practical for trying to build a team in high stakes type of leagues that don't allow trades and if you are that worried about Walker you got to take Charb that early to guarantee him it's not worth drafting Walker IMO.

This is all valid.

When I draft Walker and Charbonnet, I almost view Charbonnet as my RB3 or 4. Maybe that doesn't work for everyone. That's what makes this hobby so great.
But I won a very high dollar league last year with that strategy.

 

[Payne]

I think a lot of posts are coming from Walker and Charbonnet owners, with biases. I have neither.

The truth is Walker is much better than Charbonnet talentwise.
If there is any bias on this page, it's the Charbonnet owners trying their best to convince others (or maybe themselves) he's as good as Walker.
He's not. Multiple coaches and staffs have proved that. This year is no different.

Now, if you want to argue drafting Charbonnet late is a good move, I 100% agree. He is maybe the best backup RB to own.
That doesn't make him a better player than Walker.

Just because you keep adamantly repeating this relentlessly doesn’t make it true. Actual reliable production is very meaningful.

I'm not the multiple coaching staffs that ride Walker when he's healthy.
Every time Walker has missed time, he is right back to #1 as soon as he returns.

We have been through this ad nauseum.

And coaching staffs never ever make misjudgments.

I can see why a coaching staff would fall in love with Walker. They see him everyday, and in practices against scout Ds or in passing skeletons or thud drills he will easily be able to get to the second level, cut downhill and the blaze down the sideline.

But in actual game play where it really counts, again reliable production and keeping the offense on schedule is important to both the O and also the D by giving them more time off the field and giving D coaches more time to scheme on the fly. And the past couple of seasons, the more productive and reliable RB in games has been Charbonnet.

That doesn’t mean Walker sucks. He’s a very good RB. But in a vacuum, Charbonnet ought to have earned more gameshare than he has gotten when both guys are playing. And objectively it cannot be said, as you continually pronounce, that Walker is meaningfully a better RB than Charbonnet.

I don't even know where to start here.

Multiple coaching staffs watched the same games we all did. And multiple coaching staffs decided, when healthy, Walker was the guy they wanted to start and feed.
I'm going to take the judgement of multiple (including a super bowl head coach) over your opinion. Sorry.

Let me try to help you. Walker barely earned more than 1 ypa in red zone carries last year. He averaged 0.4 (not a typo) ypa against stacked boxes.

Charbonnet was significantly more productive in those situations. Yet Walker got just as many carries in those situations as Charbonnet. Now that’s just flat out failure by a coaching staff to acknowledge a weakness in a RB to the point of failure in lieu of a RB who simply was better in those situations.

Care to defend the coaches using a guy who gains 0.4 ypa in short yardage/goal line situations as much as they worked a more productive and successful RB? I guess they know more?

you two are saying different things.

I won't speak for @Payne but... if the coaches prefer Walker, then facts and stats don't matter, what matters is what we predict the coaches will do. Payne doesn't need to defend the coaches because he's not their GM.

Exactly. I don't pretend to know more than the coaches. I draft and mange my teams based on usage and it's pretty obvious to most who multiple coaching staffs have preferred when both are healthy.

 

[darksideofoz]

I think a lot of posts are coming from Walker and Charbonnet owners, with biases. I have neither.

The truth is Walker is much better than Charbonnet talentwise.
If there is any bias on this page, it's the Charbonnet owners trying their best to convince others (or maybe themselves) he's as good as Walker.
He's not. Multiple coaches and staffs have proved that. This year is no different.

Now, if you want to argue drafting Charbonnet late is a good move, I 100% agree. He is maybe the best backup RB to own.
That doesn't make him a better player than Walker.

Just because you keep adamantly repeating this relentlessly doesn’t make it true. Actual reliable production is very meaningful.

I'm not the multiple coaching staffs that ride Walker when he's healthy.
Every time Walker has missed time, he is right back to #1 as soon as he returns.

We have been through this ad nauseum.

And coaching staffs never ever make misjudgments.

I can see why a coaching staff would fall in love with Walker. They see him everyday, and in practices against scout Ds or in passing skeletons or thud drills he will easily be able to get to the second level, cut downhill and the blaze down the sideline.

But in actual game play where it really counts, again reliable production and keeping the offense on schedule is important to both the O and also the D by giving them more time off the field and giving D coaches more time to scheme on the fly. And the past couple of seasons, the more productive and reliable RB in games has been Charbonnet.

That doesn’t mean Walker sucks. He’s a very good RB. But in a vacuum, Charbonnet ought to have earned more gameshare than he has gotten when both guys are playing. And objectively it cannot be said, as you continually pronounce, that Walker is meaningfully a better RB than Charbonnet.

I don't even know where to start here.

Multiple coaching staffs watched the same games we all did. And multiple coaching staffs decided, when healthy, Walker was the guy they wanted to start and feed.
I'm going to take the judgement of multiple (including a super bowl head coach) over your opinion. Sorry.

Let me try to help you. Walker barely earned more than 1 ypa in red zone carries last year. He averaged 0.4 (not a typo) ypa against stacked boxes.

Charbonnet was significantly more productive in those situations. Yet Walker got just as many carries in those situations as Charbonnet. Now that’s just flat out failure by a coaching staff to acknowledge a weakness in a RB to the point of failure in lieu of a RB who simply was better in those situations.

Care to defend the coaches using a guy who gains 0.4 ypa in short yardage/goal line situations as much as they worked a more productive and successful RB? I guess they know more?

you two are saying different things.

I won't speak for @Payne but... if the coaches prefer Walker, then facts and stats don't matter, what matters is what we predict the coaches will do. Payne doesn't need to defend the coaches because he's not their GM.

Exactly. I don't pretend to know more than the coaches. I draft and mange my teams based on usage and it's pretty obvious to most who multiple coaching staffs have preferred when both are healthy.

Does that make your teams mangy?

 

[Faust]

Gregg Bell
He's fresh. He's healthy, after missing 6 games last season.

How does #Seahawks lead back Kenneth Walker feel about Klint Kubiak's new offense, which seems perfect for him?

How is he approaching the final year of his contract, and future? thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/sea… @thenewstribune

https://x.com/gbellseattle/status/1950714206204141798?s=61

@32BeatWriters
Seahawks OC Kubiak on Kenneth Walker:

“I’ve seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them.

Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens, get the ball in their hands...looking forward to him in this scheme.”

https://x.com/32beatwriters/status/1950723499669995978?s=61

 

[FootballDiehard]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

 

[Dacomish]

For those keeping track, from the Seattletimes i subscribe so not sure if behind a Pay wall so here is the meat from the Seahawks gameday type event yeasterday:

Walker sits out with sore foot​

Zach Charbonnet worked at running back with the number one offense, backed up by George Holani, with Kenneth Walker III sitting out.

Walker has looked good in practice this week and took part in a couple of the fully-padded workouts earlier in the week before being rested the last few days.

But Macdonald said he was held out to rest a sore foot, an injury he has dealt with since the spring.


Macdonald, though, indicated he is not overly concerned by the injury.

“Just a little soreness with his foot right now but he’s fine,’’ Macdonald said. “We’re just taking care of him right now throughout camp.’’

 

[Payne]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

 

[JohnnyU]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

Isn’t he hut already?

 

[FootballDiehard]

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

Yes!

But also, that's no fun.

Isn’t he hut already?

They're saying sore. But obviously worth watching.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

Isn’t he hut already?

Supposedly just a rest day, but he didn’t practice Monday either I believe. The fact that he’s still having foot soreness at this juncture is not nothing, imo.

Hopefully if you have KW3 in dynasty you already have Charbonnet. Redraft, that’s probably easier said than done, outside of reaching for him.

 

[Payne]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

Isn’t he hut already?

A lot of players are. Teams are being cautious. Especially with their superstars.

 

[menobrown]

Following up on the previous, I talked to Gregg Bell last night and incorporated some of what he said in this week's Fantasy Notebook.

Here's the pertinent passage on Walker:

While the Seahawks' run game experienced a brief breakout in December with a gap-scheme attack, Kubiak's forte is the outside zone.

Henderson notes that New Orleans ran the second-highest percentage of outside zone runs last season, and Kubiak plans to make that the focal point of Seattle's rushing attack.

And that's why Kubiak is fired up about Ken Walker III. "We're going to get the ball to our best runners -- and that's [Walker]."

Walker missed six games last year but still averaged 16.5 points per game -- 12th among RBs -- despite finishing as RB27 overall.

Zach Charbonnet is still on board, but ESPN's Mike Clay pointed out the split wasn't close when both played last year.

In 11 games together, Walker handled 68 percent of carries and 14 percent of targets, compared to Charbonnet's 19 percent and 8 percent. Charbonnet averaged 6.5 fantasy points per game in those weeks.

I spoke with Tacoma News Tribune beat writer Greg Bell on Friday, and he was adamant in insisting this is not a 1A-1B situation. Walker is going to play a featured role, with Charbonnet used to spell him if all goes as planned.

That being the case, we shouldn't overlook Walker as a receiving option.

"I've seen the guy catch the ball well out of the backfield, which I think is really important for our backs that we utilize them," Kubiak said of Walker this week. "Obviously, whatever we can do to get him touches, throwing him routes out of the backfield, throwing him screens -- whatever it takes to get the ball in his hands . . . Looking forward to him in this scheme."

Assuming Seattle can improve up front (Footballguy Matt Bitonti ranked their offensive line as 30th last year; they're at 28th this year), a healthy Walker could be a top-10 back.

He's being drafted, however, as RB16 in the fourth round. In a run-centric offense, Walker has league-winning upside if he fulfills his potential . . .

Gregg's conviction on Walker having a true featured role is evident when he speaks.

Maybe now we can put this to rest.

Isn’t he hut already?

Supposedly just a rest day, but he didn’t practice Monday either I believe. The fact that he’s still having foot soreness at this juncture is not nothing, imo.

Hopefully if you have KW3 in dynasty you already have Charbonnet. Redraft, that’s probably easier said than done, outside of reaching for him.

A chance it's the kind of ailment he'd push through if they were playing a real game but I don't think it's just rest, he's suffering from something and it's extremely concerning considering it's the same foot/ankle he keeps having issues with.

Meanwhile I think Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet.

 

[TripItUp]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

 

[JoeJoe88]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

 

[menobrown]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

 

[Payne]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

 

[Scoresman]

If this is the same foot, I am definitely concerned.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

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Numbers don't lie, he's average and his yds per carry continue to decline
I know people will explain it to me but this is another RB that I just don't get overly excited about
I don't even care about Charbonnet that much but it adds something to the discussion

 

[JohnnyU]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

 

[FarFromHome]

We must be getting close to week 1. Walker thread about to hit emotional tilt. Ha ha

 

[Terpman22]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

I mean everyone can be right here.

His foot is injured

But

He's also resting it

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself.

 

[JoeJoe88]

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself

Agreed, but this is also easier said than done, because everyone else knows Walker’s injury history and him still having foot pain this late into the off-season is super concerning. Charbonnet’s ADP will likely continue to rise.

 

[menobrown]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

I mean everyone can be right here.

His foot is injured

But

He's also resting it

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself.

Not how I see it.

If he did not have an issue with his foot he'd be practicing. He already missed a lot of time and I really don't recall any players missing multiple days of practice to rest. Maybe a day here or there but not multiple days in row.

Now I would say, as I did before, he mightno be so injured he could not play in a game, decent chance he could suit up. But he's not just sitting out practice after already missing a considerable amount of practice while they are incorporating a new system "just because" he needs rest.

As for if you don't get Charbs it's on you. Have covered this a lot but my last 4 drafts, all FFPC, if you did not draft Charbs in round 8 you never got a shot. That's an expensive handcuff, and like I said if you believe in Walker enough to spend that 3/4th on him, then sometimes you just got to go with that and hope you are right. If Charbs was cheaper, if you are drafting other RB handcuffs, then I agree that's a mistake.

 

[Terpman22]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

I mean everyone can be right here.

His foot is injured

But

He's also resting it

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself.

Not how I see it.

If he did not have an issue with his foot he'd be practicing. He already missed a lot of time and I really don't recall any players missing multiple days of practice to rest. Maybe a day here or there but not multiple days in row.

Now I would say, as I did before, he might be so injured he could not play in a game, decent chance he could suit up. But he's not just sitting out practice after already missing a considerable amount of practice while they are incorporating a new system "just because" he needs rest.

As for if you don't get Charbs it's on you. Have covered this a lot but my last 4 drafts, all FFPC, if you did not draft Charbs in round 8 you never got a shot. That's an expensive handcuff, and like I said if you believe in Walker enough to spend that 3/4th on him, then sometimes you just got to go with that and hope you are right. If Charbs was cheaper, if you are drafting other RB handcuffs, then I agree that's a mistake.

I'm with ya for the bolded but history has shown this is a bellcow role when the handcuff is needed, kind of a rarity in today's game. Usually when the main guy goes down, its a 60/40, 7/30 split between the next 2 guys, namely bc true RB1 bellcows are so rare these days.

I'm probably going to avoid it all this year b/c yeah, I hate this game on draft day personally.

 

[JohnnyU]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

I mean everyone can be right here.

His foot is injured

But

He's also resting it

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself.

Not how I see it.

If he did not have an issue with his foot he'd be practicing. He already missed a lot of time and I really don't recall any players missing multiple days of practice to rest. Maybe a day here or there but not multiple days in row.

Now I would say, as I did before, he mightno be so injured he could not play in a game, decent chance he could suit up. But he's not just sitting out practice after already missing a considerable amount of practice while they are incorporating a new system "just because" he needs rest.

As for if you don't get Charbs it's on you. Have covered this a lot but my last 4 drafts, all FFPC, if you did not draft Charbs in round 8 you never got a shot. That's an expensive handcuff, and like I said if you believe in Walker enough to spend that 3/4th on him, then sometimes you just got to go with that and hope you are right. If Charbs was cheaper, if you are drafting other RB handcuffs, then I agree that's a mistake.

Pivot from both

 

[menobrown]

From the Seahawks' annual practice at Lumen Field last night, I wrote about why Zach Charbonnet figures to have a bigger role in Seattle's backfield this season than some may assume https://x.com/BradyHenderson/status/1952046200112484690

Zach Charbonnet is in line to have a bigger role in the Seahawks' backfield this season than you might assume. Ken Walker III might still be the RB1, but the ongoing questions about his durability and the way Charbonnet continues to impress Seattle's coaches suggests it could be more of a timeshare than a starter-backup arrangement.

Walker, slowed in the spring with an ankle injury, has now been sidelined the past two days because of his foot.

"It's just a little soreness with his foot right now," coach Mike Macdonald said after the Seahawks' annual practice at Lumen Field Saturday. "But he's fine. We're just taking care of him right now throughout camp."

In and of itself, it doesn't sound like a big deal. But in the context of Walker's long injury history, it hardly seems insignificant. He missed six games last season (oblique, calf, ankle), bringing his total to 10 missed games over three seasons.

Walker's absence last year opened the door for Charbonnet (909 scrimmage yards, nine total touchdowns in 17 games) to emerge. He routinely draws praise for his professional approach, and he's missed just one game in two seasons.

"Zach, he's just a stud," Macdonald said. "He's just everything you want in a person and a football player, that's him. He just does it every day. Same person, great spirit, strong as an ox, does everything right. I mean, what do you want from a football player? Zach Charbonnet."

Charbonnet's disciplined rushing style seems like a good fit for the outside zone scheme that will be a staple of Klint Kubiak's offense. And then there was this recent quote from Kubiak, who was asked during a radio interview about what skills make an elite running back.

"No. 1 is intelligence," Kubiak told Seattle Sports 710-AM. "No. 2 is longevity or just availability. Guys that are available for the whole game. The best backs that I've been around are super smart ... Our top two guys are doing some really good things, but Charbonnet, his mental approach to the game is extremely impressive. He does not flinch. If he ever has a question, you know you didn't coach it good enough because he is that on it. Really been impressed with him."

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I’d love to see Charbs just outright overtake KW3 at some point this season. That’s not a prediction. Just a hope. And I’m biased.

 

[nittanylion]

He practiced today. Go back from whence you came, naysayers!

 

[FarFromHome]

He practiced today. Go back from whence you came, naysayers!

Us Walker folk can get a good night sleep knowing we won the battle. Until he misses practice tomorrow and the goblins scratch at the door. Ha ha

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They are resting Walker. 18 week season...no need to add wear and tear in August.

It’s more than just rest days. He’s still having pain in his foot, which is extra concerning because as @menobrown said it’s the same foot he’s had previous issues with.

It's clearly not rest, false optimism may make you feel better today but it's not going to serve you well in the long term.

How can you speak with such certainty? You know it's more than just rest? You "think" Kubiak is starting to grow fonder of Charbonnet"?
Those are opinions meno. Come on.

Is there concern? Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know.

I read he’s dealing with a foot injury. This isn’t hard.

KENNETH WALKER III MISSES THIRD STRAIGHT PRACTICE WITH FOOT INJURY

Seattle Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III (foot) missed his third-straight practice on Monday due to a sore foot. The 24-year-old did not appear to be dealing with any injuries during the start of camp, but has remained sidelined over the past few days. Fantasy managers should continue to keep a close eye on his status in case this injury begins to linger. On Monday, Zach Charbonnet filled in as the top running back once again. While Walker has flashed immense upside when on the field, he is no stranger to injuries. During the 2024 season, Walker played in only 11 games. However, during these 11 games, he averaged an impressive 16.5 PPR points per game. He also saw a career-high 53 targets his way, after seeing just 35 and 47 in each of his first two NFL seasons. When Walker is on the field, fantasy managers should expect him to serve as the lead running back in Seattle. However, given his extensive injury history, the Seahawks could eventually opt to lower his workload to preserve his health. For now, the Michigan State product remains a high-upside RB2 with risk in all standard leagues.

I mean everyone can be right here.

His foot is injured

But

He's also resting it

If you get this guy without Charbs this year, you did it to yourself.

I sniped Charbs 2x in 2 straight start-ups.

In one I parlayed it into Andrews + Palmer (I missed all the good TEs and it’s 2 PPR TEP)

In the other he’s my RB4, and I’m holding. Might capitalize when (not if) KWIII misses time.

 

[Lansdowne]

He practiced today. Go back from whence you came, naysayers!

Us Walker folk can get a good night sleep knowing we won the battle. Until he misses practice tomorrow and the goblins scratch at the door. Ha ha

The Charbs vultures will continue circling around all season, can only hope they end up with an empty stomach

 

[JohnnyU]

He practiced today. Go back from whence you came, naysayers!

Us Walker folk can get a good night sleep knowing we won the battle. Until he misses practice tomorrow and the goblins scratch at the door. Ha ha

The Charbs vultures will continue circling around all season, can only hope they end up with an empty stomach

I’d say this thread is at the The season can’t get here soon enough.

 

[Terpman22]

I’d love to see Charbs just outright overtake KW3 at some point this season. That’s not a prediction. Just a hope. And I’m biased.

Same lolz

 

[LawFitz]

He practiced today. Go back from whence you came, naysayers!

But, but, his gout!!

Do everyone a favor and stay far away from the jungle juice bowl at cousin's house party this weekend, Ken.

 

[FarFromHome]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

 

[JoeJoe88]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Hello darkness my old friend.

 

[Scoresman]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Over under on how many times this exact sentence will be typed here during the season. 10? 12? 50?

 

[Lansdowne]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Hello darkness my old friend.

“It’s just a flesh wound.”

 

[JohnnyU]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Think first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan.

 

[TripItUp]

Charbonnet truthers need to get their licks in while they can.

 

[FarFromHome]

Charbonnet truthers need to get their licks in while they can.

They got a 24 hour window until the next practice report. Ha ha

 

[Ray Barboni]

Ha ha ..

I appreciate that you don’t “say” “lol”

But keep that ‘tick under control bro. Ha ha

 

[Payne]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Not sure why this is news. They are going to treat it carefully. Test it one day, day of rest. It's August 11th.

 

[FarFromHome]

Walker didn't practice today. Ha ha

Not sure why this is news. They are going to treat it carefully. Test it one day, day of rest. It's August 11th.

I'm Team Walker. Just having fun

 

[dmac37]

Time for a little positive Kenneth news.

Camp Takeaways: Ken Walker III Ready For Week 1, Seahawks’ Rookie D-Linemen Coming of Age — Emerald City Spectrum

Back in full pads for the first time in nearly three weeks, the Seahawks’ bell cow back looked ready to face the 49ers in Tuesday’s final open practice for fans, while an intriguing group of undrafted rookie defensive linemen led by Jared Ivey continue to make positive impressions.

www.emeraldcityspectrum.com

ECS: “Ken Walker III running fast and with purpose, looking ready for 2025 season.”​

For anyone questioning where he’s at health wise, the former Michigan State star quickly silenced any of those concerns, using his elite accelerator to bounce a zone run to his right and rocket past a pair of defenders to the second level, seemingly picking up 25 yards in the blink of an eye to the delight of fans… Only a few plays later, Sam Darnold dumped off a cross screen to Walker, who had a caravan out in front of him with guard Anthony Bradford and tackle Josh Jones ready to take care of defensive backs downfield, allowing the speedy back to get nearly 20 yards before going out of bounds.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

My hunch is that if you pencil him in for 12-14 games at low end RB1/ high end RB2 numbers (think 14-15 ppr points) you're probably doing OK with him at cost. Penciling him in to miss 3-5 games but when he's active, he'll hit a few dingers for you. 9 games with around 9-11 points and another 4-5 games with top 5 scores. That's what I was thinking anyway- I picked him up in no 4 at 4.11. I've rostered him once before in my family redraft- and come to think of it, that wasn't super fun.. No shares in dyno. We'll see I guess.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

The reports I'm hearing are that they're planning to feature him. His fit in the wide zone scheme is like a glove- better than the OJ one.

 

[menobrown]

My hunch is that if you pencil him in for 12-14 games at low end RB1/ high end RB2 numbers (think 14-15 ppr points) you're probably doing OK with him at cost.

That is reasonable with a lot more upside and he might not even miss a game.

The downside POV, other then of course missing more games, is the previous regime in 2023 operated the backfield in more of a timeshare. Not so much to start that season and maybe Walker's health played a role but from mid-season till the end of the year the backfield was almost a split even in terms of snap counts. Walker's production nose dived and I was benching him in multiple leagues, he was more or less TD or bust.

He's improved as a pass catcher and this is better system for him so I think he'd fare better if it becomes a split backfield or what looks like a true RBBC then he did in 23 when this backfield turned into an even distribution of labor but it I think it would still severely limit his upside and depending on my roster options possible I'd not view him as some kind of must start. More like a mid to low end RB2.

he reports I'm hearing are that they're planning to feature him.

Perhaps and he's certainly going to be their lead ball carrier as long as he's healthy, he's a massive part of their plans, so in that sense he's going to be featured I have no doubt.

But just yesterday I was reading an article from a beat writer who last year I asked what to make of the backfield and his reply to me was "just draft K9" so I'm going to listen to what he says a bit. He wrote a very positive Walker article yesterday on the things that look on the up and up for him including how explosive he's looked and I was feeling awesome about his outlook until I read further and he said something to extent of it's hard to forecast how carries will be split and then went on to reference some glowing comments Kubiak has made about Charbs recently.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Man, if this becomes a RBBC it’s going to be chaos up in this hizzy.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Charbs is a good all-around back and is probably a good guy to trust in lots of different situations. But when they're trying to crack a long run on an outside zone run, it's KW all the way. Which means that he'll get 12 for 40 and two catches for 7 some games. But he's going to have games where he absolutely smashes even if he's not getting north of 60% of the RB touches. 3 yards and a cloud of dust isn't really his game. But I do think KW is going go get an uptick in targets this year. He's going to have a bunch of blow up games.

@Hot Sauce Guy grabbed Charbs at 8.1 in Number 4 so he put his money where his mouth is.