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RB Khalil Herbert, IND (1 Viewer)
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I don't. My plan is to play him at flex if he is activated. If not I will flex Foreman.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
I’m starting him, Mitchell or Warren as my 2nd RB hope there’s something more definite regarding Herbert soon given it’s the Thurs game.
ZADO
Footballguy
running back Khalil Herbert, wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown and cornerback Josh Blackwell all practiced in full, yet remain on the injured reserve. Each man is considered questionable to play, but each man would need to be put back on the active roster before they can suit up.
www.nbcsportschicago.com
Bears injury report: Several starters ruled out for Panthers game
Who's in and who's out when the Bears take on the Panthers.
www.nbcsportschicago.com
Boone22
Footballguy
NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reports Khalil Herbert (ankle) is not expected to play in Week 10 against the Panthers.
Herbert was a full participant in practice all week, but it sounds like the Bears are opting to rest him at least one more week before facing the Lions in Week 11. Herbert’s absence means another big workload for D’Onta Foreman should be incoming after rushing 20 times for 83 yards last week. Foreman will have top-24 fantasy upside and will be on the touchdown radar in a revenge game against his former team.
Herbert was a full participant in practice all week, but it sounds like the Bears are opting to rest him at least one more week before facing the Lions in Week 11. Herbert’s absence means another big workload for D’Onta Foreman should be incoming after rushing 20 times for 83 yards last week. Foreman will have top-24 fantasy upside and will be on the touchdown radar in a revenge game against his former team.
WaltonGoggins
Footballguy
Looking more and more like Warren!
kylechoffman
Footballguy
The Bears didn't activate Herbert (ankle) from injured reserve ahead of Thursday's game against the Panthers, Chris Emma of 670TheScore.com reports. - Rotowire
LawFitz
Footballguy
Schedule going fwd is ****e. Even if the Bewhs move entirely away from Foreman, which would be idiotic, their running game faces the following:
#NoBuenos
| 11 | @Det (30th) | 10:00 AM | 1.22 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 12 | @Min (26th) | 5:15 PM | 1.27 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 13 | BYE | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 14 | Det (30th) | 10:00 AM | 1.29 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 15 | @Cle (28th) | 10:00 AM | 1.27 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 16 | Ari (3rd) | 1:25 PM | 1.36 | 0.00 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| 17 | Atl (27th) | 10:00 AM | 1.33 | 0.00 |
#NoBuenos
Down Under
Footballguy
Is "****e" good or bad?
I presume bad, that is a pretty brutal schedule. Too bad as I could use him in one league.So do we drop him? Not sure what your point is.
Roschon has looked rather pedestrian, uncertain, and awkward running the ball. He's not the guy with the 3 down skillset that we heard so much about in the preseason. I'm hoping they just give Khalil the majority of snaps again. But I know I'll be parking him on my bench and need a prove it game before putting him in the lineup.
zamboni
Footballguy
Agree for the most part re: Roschon, but he seems to be playing more and more on passing downs in particular. Guessing it’s because he’s the best in pass pro or catching the ball, or both.
If Herbert isn't a lock for the final roster, then this is gonna be maybe the most pass heavy team in the NFL (we are all too low on Keenan Allen in that case) and pass catching is the #1 skill for a RB in this offense. Herbert is easily the best runner on the Bears roster, and if he's available for a day 3 pick, Dallas, LAC, Cincy, and TB should all be VERY interested, as he's a better runner than anyone any of those teams have. He's just not a 3-down RB.
TheWinz
Footballguy
2021 - Herbert leads all CHI RB's with 4.2 YPC
2022 - Herbert leads all CHI RB's with 5.7 YPC
2023 - Herbert leads all CHI RB's with 4.6 YPC
Entering 2024, Herbert's lifetime YPC is 4.9. In the 16 games where he got double digit carries, his average is 5.1 YPC.
Am I missing something here?
2022 - Herbert leads all CHI RB's with 5.7 YPC
2023 - Herbert leads all CHI RB's with 4.6 YPC
Entering 2024, Herbert's lifetime YPC is 4.9. In the 16 games where he got double digit carries, his average is 5.1 YPC.
Am I missing something here?
The bears coaches are dumb. That is what you are missing....
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Kind of repeating myself from the Roschon thread, but this was where I was at for years.
I'm now questioning that it's that simple. Clearly, the guy can run the ball, but there has to be some pretty major holes to his game that are going to prevent him from getting to where we all wanted to see him, even if we're banking on the long awaited change of scenery.
I would like to think that he'll get a real #2 role somewhere next season with 7 to 8 rushing attempts per game. However, I think it might be time for me to give up on the dream of anything resembling a lead role. The Bears can't be SO stupid to neither use him, nor trade him to the first team coming to his rescue offering a 4th/5th round pick, right? Right?????
Can't fault anyone for insisting on holding until he gets to the next destination, but I have to confront the fact that he will likely be 27.5 and the role might only be marginally better than what he has now.
I am not so sure. I think they can be that stupid.
Healthy scratch yesterday. Whilst my value opinion of him has definitely receded this year, he is too good to be scratched. I guess they are thinking of moving him so I will keep holding until trade deadline in dynasty. If nothing happens then, hes getting cut by me in multiple leagues.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Reclaimed the roster spot in dynasty earlier this season when he got mothballed, but planning to add him in my kicker spot and hope a trade happens this week. But no, not holding if the trade doesn't happen, even though I would like to until free agency.
I have heard they might not trade him because of his special teams contributions. I guess that reputation helps him in his next contract, but what an absolute waste of his best years as a ball carrier (and what should have been decent depth piece in fantasy). Since the Vikings had interest before settling on Akers, I would love to see him on Minnesota next season sticking it to his current team twice per year. Really feel like they've done him dirty, unless his pass protection is just truly horrific to the point of telegraphing run. I would like him more at the top of some team's depth chart starting next week, but that's probably too much to hope for at this point.
Gjallarhorn
Footballguy
Is there a landing spot that provides him 20 carries/game on a consistent basis? I feel that is what he needs to be fantasy relevant on a week-to-week basis.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I think Dallas is probably at the top of our wish list from a volume standpoint? I have no illusions of anything close to 20 carries a game unless there are more injuries to the location he's traded to. A dozen touches in a decent offense would be a huge windfall at this point.
Indy and Bengals are two others I have seen as potential interest. Obviously, that's 5 to 7 carries at most with a starter injury needed to matter. It would be an improvement over the current situation, but still just a lotto ticket waiting to happen, with other guys in the mix pushing to make it a committee if it does. Similar situation in Minnesota if that trade goes down.
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These spots really don't make any sense at this point. I don't see what he would add to either team but I suppose if the cost is cheap enough he would be an upgrade over Moss in Cincy as a runner. But Brown is doing quite fine so I don't see why they would bring in Herbert
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Likewise, he wasn't tossing A. Jones aside in Minnesota, and Ty Chandler was still going to factor in the event of Jones being out. Sadly, something like these spots is probably as good as it's going to get for Herbert. We can hope that the Cowboys are coming to make him their workhorse back, but it's probably wishful thinking. Even if it happens, there's probably plenty of involvement from Dowdle even if Herbert is able to take the top spot. Dallas is definitely the one location that's not like the others for immediate fantasy relevance. Otherwise, just a bunch of competing teams kicking the tires on cheap depth.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Wouldn't be surprised at all if he stays put. But considering that Roschon didn't get his first of two carries until the 4th quarter as the BACKUP, let's just hope they cut this poor guy a break and get him to anywhere else that will at least get him some carries to put on tape heading into free agency.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. The deal would have been done by now if he wasn’t more valuable as injury insurance. I think they know that behind Swift that Khalil Herbert is a better runner than Roschon Johnson and Swift has a rep for being oft-injured.
A healthy scratch, though. SMH. I’d go in and ask for a release if I were him, but I don’t know his contract status, what he gets paid, what he’s worth, what his guarantees are, etc.
rockaction
Footballguy
League has seen him. They know. It’s fantasy junkies like us that want the three-fifteen points he’ll get you if he gets his twelve-fifteen carries.
Problem is that teams wont give up much more than a 5th or a 6th, because that gets you a lottery ticket RB in the draft with more upside.
Wild card. If CMC is hurting and Mason continues to have health issues, what if 49ers grabbed him...... I think this page would explode.
Wild card. If CMC is hurting and Mason continues to have health issues, what if 49ers grabbed him...... I think this page would explode.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Boooo this man!
Multiple coaching staffs with the Bears did not seem to view him as having a lot of skills in the passing game so probably not that part of Moss role.x.com
x.com
Khalil Herbert to the Bengals.
I wonder if he’ll take the Zack Moss early season role? Or will he just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?
I think he’ll be less then a 1b type, a little more then pure depth.
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TartanLion
Footballguy
Amazing ! Someone dropped him in dynasty and I grabbed him off the waiver wire last week. What is even better is I was a Chase Brown ( also got off wire last season ) and Zack Moss owner until 2 weeks ago when traded away Brown as part of a deal for Godwin/Kelce/Mixon. Would be utterly hilarious if Herbert somehow won the job but I’ll at least take the fact that I have de facto replaced Moss with a blend of foresight and sheer luck
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I can think of a lot of better landing spots.x.com
Khalil Herbert to the Bengals.
I wonder if he’ll take the Zack Moss early season role? Or will he just provide depth behind an ascending Chase Brown?
A lot of places? Such as? Dallas seemed to be the clear need, but that's becoming such a dumpster fire that I think he's just getting carries there and not necessarily a great place to excel. Not to mention, Dowdle doing fine work (at least in the boxscore) with Zeke out. Maybe Chargers depending on how you feel about Dobbins and Vidal. Herbert's not at a stage in his career where he's pushing guys aside to automatically become a 1A or even a higher volume 1B. I was hoping for more some big opportunities with backfield injuries in week 8 & 9, but it didn't materialize.
I think Cincy with Moss out for an extended period is decent, or at least as good as anything else that was going to happen. He's either going to get a nice chunk of carries behind Brown or he won't and we'll see how durable Chase is as a bellcow.
zamboni
Footballguy
Herbert had some nice production as a rookie, and seems to run the ball well, but I think the fantasy community wish casted him into being something well beyond a JAG. Easy to say it's coaches that don't know how to use talent, but that's two regimes I believe that pushed Roschon and then Swift over him.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Not particularly excited. But he should at least be able to mix in week-to-week and provide some idea if he's anything that I should be holding on to through 2025 free agency. Bascially, I think I have what I thought I had at the start of the season. In some ways better, since the Moss injury is like a Roschon injury.
Max Power
Footballguy
Herbert is a good running back when given 10 carries a game against a tired D. He's not a lead back that can shoulder a load. He more of a solid RB 1B type of guy. Decent in receiving game, average to below avg pass blocker.
I'd wager he returns to the fantasy radar in Cinci.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
I picked up Herbert in advance of the trade deadline in my redraft league to see where he'd go, but I'm probably dropping him since I have to waive someone with CMC returning from IR. My bench is very handcuff heavy, and I'd rather keep my current batch of Corum, Vidal, Allgeier and Wright than him, unless someone could convince me he's a better "one injury away" handcuff. I don't think he is above the obvious ones, like the Allen's of the world.
For sure.
I grabbed him in a few leagues Sunday morning for a few bucks, one a Chase Brown team. Glad I did. Even though I consider him something less then a 1B it's a good spot IMO.. Might be able to carve out some stand alone value but as you are saying at minimum is now a strong handcuff to a guy who has never carried the load for long duration in the league.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
As decent of a handcuff stash as any other for re-draft. Part of the reason I dropped him earlier this season in dynasty before scooping him in anticipation of the trade is that we're reaching a point where the true ceiling of any "best possible outcome" scenario is losing some luster. He'll be 27 going into next season as a free agent. Getting to a point where any slim possibility of multiple seasons as the top RB somewhere is vanishing. A couple of seasons as a 1B or priority handcuff in a good offense is the new "promised land".
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Anyone still clicking on this thread is rioting if this poor soul doesn't get upwards of 3 carries out of the bye, correct?
One day, I hope the conspiracy that has taken place not to give this guy an afterthought's level of a workload in an NFL offense is unearthed.
One day, I hope the conspiracy that has taken place not to give this guy an afterthought's level of a workload in an NFL offense is unearthed.
