RB Kyle Monangai, CHI (4 Viewers)

[eighsse2]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yeah as Swift owner, I'm hoping Monangai gets the Sean Tucker treatment. But, he was being given way more credit than Tucker before the Swift injury. But still hopefully his role doesn't change.

 

[Pietaster2]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

 

[gbill2004]

This kid is good!!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just a monster game. So happy I dealt for a share last week.

 

[Ilov80s]

That was well timed, I needed it this week. With how Swift is, this might not be the last we hear from Monster Monangai

 

[LawFitz]

Just a Gai! Or perhaps no.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

 

[Chaka]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

He sucks.


lol

He needed to “learn the difference between hurt and injured”, according to his coach, no?

 

[Chaka]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

He sucks.


lol

He needed to “learn the difference between hurt and injured”, according to his coach, no?

Duce Staley pretty much hated him for that, IIRC.

Maybe Staley wasn't a very good coach.

 

[socrates]

I opted for Kimani Vidal over Monangai in my starting lineup this week. D’oh!

In Dynasty, his future looks bright. After his big week, what do you think his dynasty trade value is? Or is he a better hold?

 

[travdogg]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yeah as Swift owner, I'm hoping Monangai gets the Sean Tucker treatment. But, he was being given way more credit than Tucker before the Swift injury. But still hopefully his role doesn't change.

I think Ben Johnson has always wanted to replicate what the Lions backfield is. Monangai, I think, has shown enough that Swift is very much in a timeshare now. 50-50 is possible, but I'd probably give Swift more credit than that. I do wonder if its a situation where Monangai gets GL work, and Swift gets 3rd downs, and its close to equal beyond that.

I get the argument that Monangai had a big game against the Bengals, but Swift's best game was against NO, which isn't much different.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

He sucks.


lol

He needed to “learn the difference between hurt and injured”, according to his coach, no?

Duce Staley pretty much hated him for that, IIRC.

Maybe Staley wasn't a very good coach.

Maybe Swift is soft.

 

[Chaka]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

He sucks.


lol

He needed to “learn the difference between hurt and injured”, according to his coach, no?

Duce Staley pretty much hated him for that, IIRC.

Maybe Staley wasn't a very good coach.

Maybe Swift is soft.

As I said above, I think that ship has sailed.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I posted this in the game thread as well. Before we get too excited about Monangai going forward this Bengals defense is bad, like really , really bad. And they are missing by far, their best defender.

Swift

Yes. That was a big part of my thinking. This week we're going to hear a bunch of people talking about 50/50 timeshare going forward.

Certainly Monangai will see more work but, this is still Swift's backfield.

In fact, getting more in-game rest will probably be a great thing for Swift.

No one knows when Swift is actually returning.

We might get another RB1 week for Monangai.

Also, Swift has historically been made of glass, so there’s that.

Really a false narrative. Over his first three seasons he missed 10 games on 520 touches.

On his last 681 touches over 2.5 seasons He's missed two games. And, judging by Ben Johnson's comments, if this were a playoff game Swift might have played.

He seems to be following the "Fragile" Fred career playbook.

He sucks.


lol

He needed to “learn the difference between hurt and injured”, according to his coach, no?

Duce Staley pretty much hated him for that, IIRC.

Maybe Staley wasn't a very good coach.

Maybe Swift is soft.

As I said above, I think that ship has sailed.

Doesn’t mean you’re right.

 

[Faust]

Dane Brugler
NFL leaders in % of carries that have resulted in a 5+ yard gain:

1. James Cook, BUF (45.8%)
2. Kyle Monangai, CHI (44.1%)

Great example of a talented RB who got pushed down in an extremely crowded RB class. Crazy value in the mid-7th.

https://x.com/dpbrugler/status/1985376218443567417?s=61

 

[Faust]

Josh Norris
I'm a massive fan of Kyle Monangai

easy to be when he goes for 198 yards on 29 touches

He's a bear to tackle on final contact and extremely decisive on starting line and first/second level cuts

but Chicago's OL + WR blocking buy in is what made all the difference

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1985396093673247171?s=61

 

[jtd13]

Josh Norris
I'm a massive fan of Kyle Monangai

easy to be when he goes for 198 yards on 29 touches

He's a bear to tackle on final contact and extremely decisive on starting line and first/second level cuts

but Chicago's OL + WR blocking buy in is what made all the difference

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1985396093673247171?s=61

Watching Monangai's highlights this week, the push from the bears line really stood out. They were moving 1-2 yards up field as a unit on most of the runs.

 

[TheWinz]

Is it bad juju to root for another healing week for Swift?

 

[jtd13]

Is it bad juju to root for another healing week for Swift?

Rooting for an injury is bad juju.
Rooting for sufficient time to heal just sounds like you're looking out for D'Andre.

 

[TheWinz]

Is it bad juju to root for another healing week for Swift?

Rooting for an injury is bad juju.
Rooting for sufficient time to heal just sounds like you're looking out for D'Andre.

Well then, I am hoping they heal the crap out of D'Andre. I don't want to see him dress out until I know he is 110%. I don't care if it takes all season. Just looking out for the guy.

 

[LawFitz]

Just looking out for the guy

You misspelled Gai

 

[Galileo]

Is it bad juju to root for another healing week for Swift?

Rooting for an injury is bad juju.
Rooting for sufficient time to heal just sounds like you're looking out for D'Andre.

Well then, I am hoping they heal the crap out of D'Andre. I don't want to see him dress out until I know he is 110%. I don't care if it takes all season. Just looking out for the guy.

As a Swift and Monangai owner I am pretty certain the fantasy gods will see to it that Swift will play and both RBs will be devalued moving forward.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is it bad juju to root for another healing week for Swift?

I’m rooting for a foot amputation, so… you’re probably all good.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

 

[Chaka]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

This should be moved to @Hot Sauce Guy flag planting thread.

 

[zamboni]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

I don’t know - seems like Swift has been running hard himself and generating a lot of yards after contact. But we don’t see what they do obviously. I see some sort of RBBC going forward.

Monangai’s value may increase though as the weather gets colder and they want to grind it out more.

 

[Pietaster2]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

From your lips to God’s ears!

That’s my RB2!

 

[Faust]

Connor Allen
Per @NextGenStats, Bears RB Kyle Monangai had 58 rushing yards over expectation in Week 9.

D'Andre Swift has 41 yards over expectation all season.

https://x.com/connorallennfl/status/1986119837958001073?s=61

In fairness, it was the Bengals defense

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Connor Allen
Per @NextGenStats, Bears RB Kyle Monangai had 58 rushing yards over expectation in Week 9.

D'Andre Swift has 41 yards over expectation all season.

https://x.com/connorallennfl/status/1986119837958001073?s=61

In fairness, it was the Bengals defense

Yeah, but it’s more about the way he finishes runs. That type of style translates over against any defense.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

Monagai's pass protection has been inconsistent enough that Swift will remain the starter and play most downs assuming he's healthy. This may change next season, but I doubt Johnson will roll out Monagai as a bell cow back right now because he needs to protect Caleb.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

Monagai's pass protection has been inconsistent enough that Swift will remain the starter and play most downs assuming he's healthy. This may change next season, but I doubt Johnson will roll out Monagai as a bell cow back right now because he needs to protect Caleb.

Caleb can’t even protect Caleb. Monangai is the superior back.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

If you repeat it enough times, with enough conviction, I'm sure you can convince yourself it's true Guru24.

 

[zamboni]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

Monagai's pass protection has been inconsistent enough that Swift will remain the starter and play most downs assuming he's healthy. This may change next season, but I doubt Johnson will roll out Monagai as a bell cow back right now because he needs to protect Caleb.

Do you have any definitive evidence on this about his pass pro?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

Monagai's pass protection has been inconsistent enough that Swift will remain the starter and play most downs assuming he's healthy. This may change next season, but I doubt Johnson will roll out Monagai as a bell cow back right now because he needs to protect Caleb.

Do you have any definitive evidence on this about his pass pro?

His poor pass pro during the preseason was all over Bears media. Most pundits loved his running ability, but thought he needed a lot of work in pass pro.

“If you’re not protecting the quarterback, you won’t play,” Bieniemy said.

Or as coach Ben Johnson likes to put it: “No block, no rock.”

Bears' Kyle Monangai has work to do to earn Ben Johnson's trust

Chicago Bears rookie running back Kyle Monangai looked the part as a runner, but his reps will depend on more than just hard-earned yards.

www.si.com

 

[pinequick]

This is Monangai’s backfield .. Ben Johnson’s been praising him since camp and the rook exploded in his first start. I see Swift as the receiving/hurry up offense back going forward.

Monagai's pass protection has been inconsistent enough that Swift will remain the starter and play most downs assuming he's healthy. This may change next season, but I doubt Johnson will roll out Monagai as a bell cow back right now because he needs to protect Caleb.

Do you have any definitive evidence on this about his pass pro?

His poor pass pro during the preseason was all over Bears media. Most pundits loved his running ability, but thought he needed a lot of work in pass pro.

“If you’re not protecting the quarterback, you won’t play,” Bieniemy said.

Or as coach Ben Johnson likes to put it: “No block, no rock.”

Bears' Kyle Monangai has work to do to earn Ben Johnson's trust

Chicago Bears rookie running back Kyle Monangai looked the part as a runner, but his reps will depend on more than just hard-earned yards.

www.si.com

Any goofs in pass pro jump out from last week? It is Week 10 now... he might have improved in that area?