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RB Leonard Fournette, FA (2 Viewers)
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steelers1080
Footballguy
He looked great in the preseason game. His stat line doesn't wow, but he grinded out yards against the first group of NE defenders (Not all starters) before they started pulling people. Also, his stats were brought down by being used on 3rd and 1 and 4th downs. He didn't receive any passes, but he bulled through tackles and was able to consistently gain 4-5 yards per carry against stacked boxes.
For his first NFL game, he looked calm and confident. He should only get better. Also, Fournette is going to clean up in the 4th quarter of games. He was pounding defenders again and again, it will be tough for them to take that all game long.
For his first NFL game, he looked calm and confident. He should only get better. Also, Fournette is going to clean up in the 4th quarter of games. He was pounding defenders again and again, it will be tough for them to take that all game long.
Pwingles
Footballguy
I see so few scenarios where this is true, but I am rooting for it as an owner and closet Jags fan
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Hard to say, they do seem to still want Yeldon out there in passing formations, but Yeldon is so unimpressive on runs that I question how long they stick with that.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I dunno, their hope is to emulate Dallas from last year. Just run the ball a ton, and play solid defense. This should keep games closer and limit the damage Bortles can do.
Chaka
Footballguy
It sure would help if Fournette also had the Dallas offensive line, but he doesn't.
Capella
Footballguy
This isn't definitely not true. He has horrible hands. Not sure how you got that idea.
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Milkman
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Lsu homer? I don't get it. It's universally acknowledged he has poor hands. Multiple examples of the ball hitting his hands and bouncing off.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Milkman
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Milkman
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Since I'd never heard of this "universally acknowledged" thing I went ahead and googled it.Capella said:
The first four articles that popped up were scouting reports and training camp reports that each had the following to say.
- Hands are adequate in passing game.
- Fournette's hands are decent -- he has shown an ability to catch the ball and protect on third down this season
- His hands are soft, his body is not.
- It’s time we got used to seeing Fournette make catches – whether in practice or otherwise – because he probably has hands that makes most running backs jealous. They’re not stone and they may not be Christian McCaffrey-level, but they are a nice in between.
Milkman
Footballguy
Yeah his hands are fine.......and Yeldon is legit bad. The Jags are waaaaay better if they ride Fournette.......
Rhythmdoctor
Footballguy
Everything I've read about Fournette's hands are that they are better than perceived. I guess that comes out to average hands. He's probably going to never get 80 receptions in a season but 30 seems reasonable.
psychobillies
Footballguy
You know I'm a homer, but I have no idea where you're getting this from. He's always done well catching the ball. Just didn't do it much in school.Capella said:
Capella
Footballguy
He caught 41 balls in 31 games. That's not doing well. Honestly if he was so good in the passing game, and he is clearly a dominant talent, why wasn't he a bigger factor in it? A good pass catching RB with his clear level of talent should be the best friend for the mediocre QBs lsu had.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Pretty poor deduction. Melvin Gordon had 22 catches in 45 games in college. He had 41 last season.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
That's really not that out of line for a workhorse back in college that ends up being a ~30 catch guy in the NFL.
Melvin Gordon caught 22 balls in 41 games in college. 33 and 41 receptions in his two years in the NFL.
Jordan Howard caught 24 balls in 32 games in college. 29 catches in his first year in the NFL (13 games).
Carlos Hyde caught 34 balls in 41 games in college. 27 catches last year (13 games).
Doug Martin caught 67 balls in 51 games in college. 49 and 33 catches in his two full seasons in the NFL.
Devonta Freeman caught 47 balls in 40 games in college. 30, 73, and 54 catches in his three years in the NFL.
Frank Gore caught 23 balls in 28 games in college. Averaged 38 catches per season in the NFL.
Like was said above he's probably not going to be an 80 catch guy, but 30-40 is reasonable if not likely. It's really takes a major Michael Turner-esque type outlier to not catch 30 balls in the modern NFL when you're a 250+ carry back.
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Capella
Footballguy
How is it a poor deduction? We have 3 seasons of him being a non-factor in the passing game.
psychobillies
Footballguy
I hear you, but it was LSU. You know as well as anyone how unbelievably bad the offensive philosophy was. No one can explain why they did things the way they did, but when they asked him to catch it, he did. For the most part.
I'm not saying he's Marshall Faulk, but it's not a weakness of his.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea, you guys were lucky to get rid of Miles finally. I hope LF does well. I plan to draft him early, just not expecting anything out of him with the passing game. He's gonna be awesome though.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Ray Rice didn't catch many balls at all at Rutgers because of the system. He became one of the NFL's most prolific pass catchers during his run. Sometimes college teams just don't use their RBs in the passing game.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
That's a logical fallacy. Just because they don't give it to him doesn't mean he's not good. It means they didn't give it to him. Terrell Davis hardly carried the ball in college. Tom Brady played QBBC with hotshot recruit Drew Henson.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Sit him the rest of the preseason.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Yep....0 questions or concerns....hall of fame....leading Jags to Super Bowl....rushing titles...MVPs year after year....no doubt. Only Alabama can stop him and thankfully he doesn't play them anymore.
Milkman
Footballguy
Yeah because that's what i said. Guys that big that move like that kill this league but by all means pass him up.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I apologize, I must have caught you at a bad time. I think if there is a hole available he will get yards with his speed and power. I think if he has to create on his own he will be average. I think he will be limited in he passing game although not completely disregarded. If Bortles can keep defenses honest he will succeed. If not he will ride the struggle bus. I think Gurley is a better prospect and I saw what bad Qbing did to him last year.
Milkman
Footballguy
Caught me at a bad time? How about your post was complete hyperbole and served no purpose. You should pass on him then. I disagree with a lot of this except bortles sucks and it will hurt Fournette but they are going to ride him because of that too.
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
That is what is great about this forum...the difference in opinions. Thanks for your insight!
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I heard Leonard's ankle issue described as "chronic" last year and that it would require constant maintenance if not surgery. Haven't seen any new info about that or if this foot issue is a part of that. I know surgery was on the table last year leading up to the draft, but assumed that was put behind him as he had to be cleared medically to go #4. I have the #1 in a dynasty league and have to admit his latest injury, relevant to his ankle or not, does raise a red flag for me for a pick that was a slam dunk in my mind a week ago.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
But one may be a circumstance of the other. Is the foot injury on the same side as the ankle, is the ankle issue also leading to foot issues? As another owner of 1.1, I am also intrigued to know more detail.
steelers1080
Footballguy
The ankle injury and the foot injury are two separate issues. The ankle injury bothered him all last year because he was brought back too soon. There is no reason to risk a serious injury in the preseason, so the Jags are resting his foot which was only described as "sore". No clear injury listed.
It was speculated last year that his ankle injury was "chronic" and that it could eventually require surgery. While this is possible, it was never stated by anyone with any real knowledge of the situation.
It's fine to be scared of injuries at the RB position, especially since they seem to occur with regularity, but Fournette doesn't get injured at a higher rate than other RBs. He had the ankle injury, Cook had the hamstring and shoulder injuries, and McCaffrey ended the year hampered by injury as well. It's a physical position and if he gets a large number of carries, his chances of injury go up. But he also has more opportunity for fantasy points.
I wouldn't be scared of drafting Fournette due to injury, especially when the best WRs this year are such a high injury risk (Davis, Williams, and Ross). If you're going to be scared off from him do it for a legitimate reason, like how bad the QB situation is, or how bad the O-line is, or the probability that he won't receive too many passes.
It was speculated last year that his ankle injury was "chronic" and that it could eventually require surgery. While this is possible, it was never stated by anyone with any real knowledge of the situation.
It's fine to be scared of injuries at the RB position, especially since they seem to occur with regularity, but Fournette doesn't get injured at a higher rate than other RBs. He had the ankle injury, Cook had the hamstring and shoulder injuries, and McCaffrey ended the year hampered by injury as well. It's a physical position and if he gets a large number of carries, his chances of injury go up. But he also has more opportunity for fantasy points.
I wouldn't be scared of drafting Fournette due to injury, especially when the best WRs this year are such a high injury risk (Davis, Williams, and Ross). If you're going to be scared off from him do it for a legitimate reason, like how bad the QB situation is, or how bad the O-line is, or the probability that he won't receive too many passes.
irish eyes
Footballguy
I hope someone drafts him early in my leagues. He is being held out tonight for...wait for it...his toe got stepped on & swelled up. Can't make this up, good luck with this pretzel whoever drafts him.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Riffraff
Footballguy
They kind of blend together.
A subtalar dislocation of the ankle is a possible diagnosis if one snaps the arch of their foot.
Weebs210
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
No reason to worry about Fournette-yet
That article was wrote 5 days ago by Dr. Chao. In it he states:
If Fournette misses a practice or two, this is likely not a big deal. If he is not back by Thursday, it could be time to start worrying this is something that will continue to linger into the season.
That article was wrote 5 days ago by Dr. Chao. In it he states:
If Fournette misses a practice or two, this is likely not a big deal. If he is not back by Thursday, it could be time to start worrying this is something that will continue to linger into the season.
