RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (4 Viewers)

[Emmitt Brown]

Ok...so is Tomlin saying that it is not a Lisfranc injury at all or just that it's not as severe as Spaeth's? This is definitely encouraging news but are we to interpret that the 6-8 week time frame is no longer valid (i.e.- it could be much sooner)?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

As someone who finally cut ties with Bradshaw and now has Bell, I'm guessing this latest news will end up bringing us to a situation where he constantly comes back just a little too early and continues to have problems with it while never playing at full strength.

 

[3C's]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld take:

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

Related: Jonathan Dwyer, Isaac Redman

Source: Jim Wexell on Twitter

 

[3C's]

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 22m

Le'Veon Bell on sprained foot: "I’m already healing quick. As long as the process keeps going the way it is, I should be back pretty quick.”

 

[Keith Lewis]

Fork meet bell.

Mark it down.

 

[Shutout]

Fork meet bell.

Mark it down.

As in, he's done? Man, that's pretty bold. He's young and I don't recall there being any laundry list of injuries with this guy. With that being said, the Liz Frankenstein is a nasty monster so I see the caution.

 

[msudaisy26]

So basically Tomlin and the coaching staff dodged a bullet and didn't learn a thing. They are going to rush him back, again, and try to ruin the kids career

 

[Keith Lewis]

Fork meet bell.

Mark it down.

As in, he's done? Man, that's pretty bold. He's young and I don't recall there being any laundry list of injuries with this guy. With that being said, the Liz Frankenstein is a nasty monster so I see the caution.

Just mean this year. I can see returns week 5 and gets 4 points, 12 the next week, then 2 and injured a few weeks. I see him being pretty worthless this year, he is off to a really bad start.

 

[Stealthycat]

making him undraftable in redrafts and sliding out of the first round in Dynasty drafts

yeah - its that big a deal

 

[Concept Coop]

making him undraftable in redrafts and sliding out of the first round in Dynasty drafts

yeah - its that big a deal

He shouldn't be sliding out of the first round in dynasty formats. Guys like Hunter, Allen, Wheaten, etc, have done nothing to make up that ground, even after the injury. Hell, Lattimore is going in the first.

 

[menobrown]

making him undraftable in redrafts and sliding out of the first round in Dynasty drafts

yeah - its that big a deal

He shouldn't be sliding out of the first round in dynasty formats. Guys like Hunter, Allen, Wheaten, etc, have done nothing to make up that ground, even after the injury. Hell, Lattimore is going in the first.

I think Wheaton looks like a star in the making but I agree with your point. Bell would still be a rock solid first rounder. I was pretty split at one time between him or Gio for rookie RB1. What this injury does for me is push Bell back to rookie RB3, after Gio and Lacy. I'm sure I'm in the minority when I say I'd still take him over Ball but expect I'd be in the majority when I say I'd still take him over Lattimore.

And lets not forget guys like Franklin and Stacy who made back ends of first round in a lot of rookie drafts. Franklin looks mediocore and likely third wheel and if Bell misses half the season and spots Stacy 8 games he'll still outscore Stacy by week 10 or 11.

And unless you are in an 8 team league with shallow rosters Bell is far,far away from being undraftable in redrafts.

 

[3C's]

making him undraftable in redrafts and sliding out of the first round in Dynasty drafts

yeah - its that big a deal

He shouldn't be sliding out of the first round in dynasty formats. Guys like Hunter, Allen, Wheaten, etc, have done nothing to make up that ground, even after the injury. Hell, Lattimore is going in the first.

I think Wheaton looks like a star in the making but I agree with your point. Bell would still be a rock solid first rounder. I was pretty split at one time between him or Gio for rookie RB1. What this injury does for me is push Bell back to rookie RB3, after Gio and Lacy. I'm sure I'm in the minority when I say I'd still take him over Ball but expect I'd be in the majority when I say I'd still take him over Lattimore.

And lets not forget guys like Franklin and Stacy who made back ends of first round in a lot of rookie drafts. Franklin looks mediocore and likely third wheel and if Bell misses half the season and spots Stacy 8 games he'll still outscore Stacy by week 10 or 11.

And unless you are in an 8 team league with shallow rosters Bell is far,far away from being undraftable in redrafts.

If the offense can get in gear Wheaton is going to be a stud. Complete package.

 

[Godsbrother]

So basically Tomlin and the coaching staff dodged a bullet and didn't learn a thing. They are going to rush him back, again, and try to ruin the kids career

Are you suggesting that Tomlin will have Bell return before receiving clearance from the medical staff?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So basically Tomlin and the coaching staff dodged a bullet and didn't learn a thing. They are going to rush him back, again, and try to ruin the kids career

If there is a coach to trust in this league that will look out for his players, wouldn't it be Tomlin? He's an A+ coach.

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

 

[Slapdash]

Impact of trading for Felix?

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Committee. I wouldn't take any of them.

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

Outstanding news, thanks. The last I had heard was from Rotoworld at about 12:30pm yesterday and it has slightly different information from what you're saying the coach said (pasted below). This report seems to indicate that he's still off his foot for six weeks even though no surgery is required. From listening to the diggy diggy doc Jene Bramel I've learned you can still have a lisfrac and not need surgery, so I think what we're dealing with is a 'He doesn't need surgery and the next few days to a week will determine how long they think he'll actually be out' kind of thing. All in all, it's good news I guess.

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

Outstanding news, thanks. The last I had heard was from Rotoworld at about 12:30pm yesterday and it has slightly different information from what you're saying the coach said (pasted below). This report seems to indicate that he's still off his foot for six weeks even though no surgery is required. From listening to the diggy diggy doc Jene Bramel I've learned you can still have a lisfrac and not need surgery, so I think what we're dealing with is a 'He doesn't need surgery and the next few days to a week will determine how long they think he'll actually be out' kind of thing. All in all, it's good news I guess.

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

So was that other guy misinformed or not?

 

[3C's]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

Outstanding news, thanks. The last I had heard was from Rotoworld at about 12:30pm yesterday and it has slightly different information from what you're saying the coach said (pasted below). This report seems to indicate that he's still off his foot for six weeks even though no surgery is required. From listening to the diggy diggy doc Jene Bramel I've learned you can still have a lisfrac and not need surgery, so I think what we're dealing with is a 'He doesn't need surgery and the next few days to a week will determine how long they think he'll actually be out' kind of thing. All in all, it's good news I guess.

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

So was that other guy misinformed or not?

Apparently I was misinformed about what the guy, Bell, said about his own pain/discomfort.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

To be fair, it doesn't seem like this adds up.

He has an injury bad enough to keep him out 4-6 weeks and put him in a walking boot and crutches, but he's walking around without discomfort?

 

[3C's]

Impact of trading for Felix?

As Dale Lolley said, Jones is no lock to make the team. More about moving bodies.

 

[3C's]

To be fair, it doesn't seem like this adds up.

He has an injury bad enough to keep him out 4-6 weeks and put him in a walking boot and crutches, but he's walking around without discomfort?

He can put pressure on the foot and he's doing foot exercises/rehab. The boot and crutches is precautionary.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

To be fair, it doesn't seem like this adds up.

He has an injury bad enough to keep him out 4-6 weeks and put him in a walking boot and crutches, but he's walking around without discomfort?

He can put pressure on the foot and he's doing foot exercises/rehab. The boot and crutches is precautionary.

Thanks -- hadn't heard that part. That's great news for him, considering what he might have been looking at.

 

[msudaisy26]

Are the Steelers turning into the Patriots with injury news?

 

[tsarc888]

the source in question does work for Pittsburgh Post Gazette, and covers the team, so is at least somewhat credible and does have access to the players.

Here is more information from same writer about an hour ago.

"Le'Veon Bell is felling good about his injured foot, but there won't be a rush for him to return. Here's why:

Bell, known for his durability at Michigan State, has not discussed a timetable with doctors, but he indicated there will be a cautious approach to rehabilitation.

"It's going to be tough," he said. "If my foot even gets close to me feeling like I can play on it, I'm going to try to play on it. I know it's a long season. I want to make sure everything is comfortable, so I can play how I want to pay. I don't want the injury to come back or get worse. I want to make sure the injury is good and go from there."

Bell said the injury occurred on the fourth play of the preseason game at Washington Monday night when a Redskins defender fell on the back of his leg after a running play. He participated in one more play -- a pass attempt by quarterback Ben Roethlisberger -- before leaving the game.

It is the second injury this preseason for Bell, who is trying to earn the starting job at running back. He bruised his left knee early in camp and aggravated the injury last week before the Washington game.

"It's frustrating a little bit, not being hurt before and I end up getting hurt twice," Bell said. "It gets frustrating at times. Now I'm faced with it, I'm going to fight through it and get back as quickly as possible."

 

[3C's]

Are the Steelers turning into the Patriots with injury news?

Not quite to that level, but yes. They/Tomlin seem to be more "guarded" with info.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

making him undraftable in redrafts and sliding out of the first round in Dynasty drafts

yeah - its that big a deal

He shouldn't be sliding out of the first round in dynasty formats. Guys like Hunter, Allen, Wheaten, etc, have done nothing to make up that ground, even after the injury. Hell, Lattimore is going in the first.

Yeah, I guarantee he does not make it past 1.5 in our league. MIGHT even go 1.4.

 

[Shutout]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

 

[TheLurkerBelow]

Ok...so is Tomlin saying that it is not a Lisfranc injury at all or just that it's not as severe as Spaeth's? This is definitely encouraging news but are we to interpret that the 6-8 week time frame is no longer valid (i.e.- it could be much sooner)?

Here's the latest blurb from Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8390/leveon-bell

Speaking Thursday, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin implied Le'Veon Bell's mid-foot sprain is not of the Lisfranc variety, and that he's week to week.
Specifically, Tomlin said Bell's injury was not a Lisfranc sprain similar to the one suffered by Matt Spaeth. It's not entirely clear if Tomlin meant Bell had avoided a Lisfranc injury, or just suffered a less serious one than Spaeth. It's also unclear how seriously those in the know are taking Tomlin's comments, as they didn't generate much national traction on Thursday. It was widely reported on Wednesday, from FOX to CBS to ESPN, that Bell had a Lisfranc injury. Teams can be fairly loose with injury information in the preseason, and even in the regular season, they regularly decline to disclose whether a sprained foot is of the Lisfranc variety. The Steelers' Friday acquisition of Felix Jones is a sign they don't expect Bell back in the near future. We still consider Bell out indefinitely.
Aug 23 - 12:35 PM

 

[JFS171]

Man, we know Fragile Felix isn't much of a running back... what's that say that the Steelers felt the need to go get him?

I don't own Bell anywhere, but if I did I'd be a bit concerned about compensation injuries, trying to come back to quickly, and or not telling us everything they know. Actions speak louder than words, and though they're telling us he's fine and week to week, they just traded for a veteran back that isn't that great...

 

[Godsbrother]

Ok...so is Tomlin saying that it is not a Lisfranc injury at all or just that it's not as severe as Spaeth's? This is definitely encouraging news but are we to interpret that the 6-8 week time frame is no longer valid (i.e.- it could be much sooner)?

Here's the latest blurb from Rotoworld: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8390/leveon-bell

Speaking Thursday, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin implied Le'Veon Bell's mid-foot sprain is not of the Lisfranc variety, and that he's week to week.
Specifically, Tomlin said Bell's injury was not a Lisfranc sprain similar to the one suffered by Matt Spaeth. It's not entirely clear if Tomlin meant Bell had avoided a Lisfranc injury, or just suffered a less serious one than Spaeth. It's also unclear how seriously those in the know are taking Tomlin's comments, as they didn't generate much national traction on Thursday. It was widely reported on Wednesday, from FOX to CBS to ESPN, that Bell had a Lisfranc injury. Teams can be fairly loose with injury information in the preseason, and even in the regular season, they regularly decline to disclose whether a sprained foot is of the Lisfranc variety. The Steelers' Friday acquisition of Felix Jones is a sign they don't expect Bell back in the near future. We still consider Bell out indefinitely.
Aug 23 - 12:35 PM

The bolded statement is opinion. Bell, Stephens-Howling, Johnson and Redman are all nicked. First and foremost the Steelers needed bodies for the preseason. If Jones shows something then he could stick, otherwise he will be cut regardless of Bell's injury.

 

[menobrown]

To be fair, it doesn't seem like this adds up.

He has an injury bad enough to keep him out 4-6 weeks and put him in a walking boot and crutches, but he's walking around without discomfort?

He can put pressure on the foot and he's doing foot exercises/rehab. The boot and crutches is precautionary.

Thanks -- hadn't heard that part. That's great news for him, considering what he might have been looking at.

Keep in mind the 6-8 timeline is guesses by people who are NOT associated with the Steelers and really have no idea of the condition of his foot. Tomlin specifically stated he had no idea where this supposed 6-8 week recovery was coming from and that was not a timeframe he has discussed with anyone.

As for Bell walking around. I had already took it as an extremely positive sign that he never left the sideline on Monday night and could be seen walking around in what did not appear to be any pain.

 

[3C's]

Man, we know Fragile Felix isn't much of a running back... what's that say that the Steelers felt the need to go get him?

I don't own Bell anywhere, but if I did I'd be a bit concerned about compensation injuries, trying to come back to quickly, and or not telling us everything they know. Actions speak louder than words, and though they're telling us he's fine and week to week, they just traded for a veteran back that isn't that great...

They need someone to carry the ball for the next 2 preseason games. Bell is out. LSH has a slight knee issue. Redman had a stinger. This keeps from having Dwyer shoulder too much of a load for the rest of preseason.

As Bell said, this could be a small blessing in disguise as it will allow his knee to fully heal.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

hey EG, I know you follow the steelers closely and respect your opinions about them (or knowledge of facts about them, as case may be)...

just wanted to clarify this , as obviously it could be really important with a lot of drafts taking place in next few weeks...

I can't confirm it, but maybe it just because hasn't hit the news cycle yet (though with something this big, it would seemingly be all over the news very quickly...

1 - since mon or tues, seemed to be consensus that bell does have mid foot sprain, confirmed to be lis franc...

2 - it may have taken additional day or two to get second opinion, but later emerged non-surgical rehab prescribed (best possible news under circumstances - given lis franc sprain)

3 - instead of almost certainly missing the whole season if surgery needed, the prognosis was reduced to 6-8 weeks (not sure if it was covered as much, as what I am about to note is more speculative, inferential, conjectural - it wouldn't be surprise if it ended up being longer, as some of the recent case history profiles, even with non-surgical, rehab variant, have been decidedly mixed, with MJD, for instance, who after an interval attempting to avoid surgery, needed it later anyways, merely prolonging recovery ETA)...

* this question could be posed to board as well... is there any recent information or news that conflicts with or contradicts above?

 

[3C's]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

You mean the guy that just recently came off the PUP list? Sure...

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

Outstanding news, thanks. The last I had heard was from Rotoworld at about 12:30pm yesterday and it has slightly different information from what you're saying the coach said (pasted below). This report seems to indicate that he's still off his foot for six weeks even though no surgery is required. From listening to the diggy diggy doc Jene Bramel I've learned you can still have a lisfrac and not need surgery, so I think what we're dealing with is a 'He doesn't need surgery and the next few days to a week will determine how long they think he'll actually be out' kind of thing. All in all, it's good news I guess.

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

So was that other guy misinformed or not?

Apparently I was misinformed about what the guy, Bell, said about his own pain/discomfort.

I fear we may never know the truth.

 

[Shutout]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

You mean the guy that just recently came off the PUP list? Sure...

Key phrase: OFF THE PUP LIST. At least he can play RIGHT now and he's better than anything they got, had, or just traded for.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?

Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

Outstanding news, thanks. The last I had heard was from Rotoworld at about 12:30pm yesterday and it has slightly different information from what you're saying the coach said (pasted below). This report seems to indicate that he's still off his foot for six weeks even though no surgery is required. From listening to the diggy diggy doc Jene Bramel I've learned you can still have a lisfrac and not need surgery, so I think what we're dealing with is a 'He doesn't need surgery and the next few days to a week will determine how long they think he'll actually be out' kind of thing. All in all, it's good news I guess.

Le'Veon Bell will not need surgery to repair the sprain in his right foot.
It's the best news the Steelers could hope for. While Lisfranc surgery would have cost Bell the entire season, a rest-and-rehab regimen could get him back as soon as six weeks. If that's the case, the second-round rookie would have an outside shot at playing sometime around Week 3. Still, there are no guarantees when it comes to this serious of an injury. Maurice Jones-Drew put off surgery on his Lisfranc ailment last year and tried to return, but never got back on the field and went under the knife after the season. Santonio Holmes' foot is still bothering him 11 months after his Lisfranc. While Bell is sidelined, backup-caliber talents Isaac Redman and Jonathan Dwyer will duel for the starting job.

So was that other guy misinformed or not?

Apparently I was misinformed about what the guy, Bell, said about his own pain/discomfort.

To be fair, Bell could be downplaying the pain issue. McKnight had a freakin' concussion and couldn't stand up on the sideline and that was being hushed up and downplayed despite the lawsuit circus that's swirling around. Didn't we have another big time RB recently lie about a Lis Franc injury?

If that's the case, we ARE misinformed. The information we have is not accurate, through no actual fault of our own. It's kinda like the word "ignorant". It isn't automatically an insult nor does it contemplate the issue of fault.

We are all misinformed quite a bit in fantasy football. That's why a 65% accuracy rate is stellar in this hobby.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld take:

Speaking Thursday, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin implied Le'Veon Bell's mid-foot sprain is not of the Lisfranc variety, and that he's week to week.
Specifically, Tomlin said Bell's injury was not a Lisfranc sprain similar to the one suffered by Matt Spaeth. It's not entirely clear if Tomlin meant Bell had avoided a Lisfranc injury, or just suffered a less serious one than Spaeth. It's also unclear how seriously those in the know are taking Tomlin's comments, as they didn't generate much national traction on Thursday. It was widely reported on Wednesday, from FOX to CBS to ESPN, that Bell had a Lisfranc injury. Teams can be fairly loose with injury information in the preseason, and even in the regular season, they regularly decline to disclose whether a sprained foot is of the Lisfranc variety. The Steelers' Friday acquisition of Felix Jones is a sign they don't expect Bell back in the near future. We still consider Bell out indefinitely.


Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

 

[Chaka]

So basically Tomlin and the coaching staff dodged a bullet and didn't learn a thing. They are going to rush him back, again, and try to ruin the kids career

Are you suggesting that Tomlin will have Bell return before receiving clearance from the medical staff?

I would suggest that the medical staff might clear him if they thought it would help the multi-million dollar organization, that cuts the medical staff's paychecks, win games even if it meant Bell was cleared before it would be in his best interest to begin playing football again.

 

[Touchdown There]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

You mean the guy that just recently came off the PUP list? Sure...

Key phrase: OFF THE PUP LIST. At least he can play RIGHT now and he's better than anything they got, had, or just traded for.

The only reason he is off PUP is because he was forced by the NFL, not because he is actually healthy. Error by the part of Colts management when they tried to get him mental reps on the practice field.

 

[Shutout]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

You mean the guy that just recently came off the PUP list? Sure...

Key phrase: OFF THE PUP LIST. At least he can play RIGHT now and he's better than anything they got, had, or just traded for.

The only reason he is off PUP is because he was forced by the NFL, not because he is actually healthy. Error by the part of Colts management when they tried to get him mental reps on the practice field.

I did read that but I think I would still take him two weeks from now over anything Pitt has. You know how it is with Bradshaw. You hear stories like he can't even walk and then he shows up on Sunday ang goe 14/87/1 3/47/0.

 

[JFS171]

Guess the Steelers probably wishing they had signed Bradshaw way back when now.

You mean the guy that just recently came off the PUP list? Sure...

Key phrase: OFF THE PUP LIST. At least he can play RIGHT now and he's better than anything they got, had, or just traded for.

The only reason he is off PUP is because he was forced by the NFL, not because he is actually healthy. Error by the part of Colts management when they tried to get him mental reps on the practice field.

While true that he was activated due to a rules technicality, he's practicing (though this completely flew under the radar)...

Per Rotoworld:

Ahmad Bradshaw (foot) practiced in full pads Tuesday for the first time all camp.
Bradshaw still isn't participating completely in team work and isn't expected to play in the Colts' third preseason game, but it's clear he's making progress. With more than two weeks to go until Week 1, he appears on pace to be peaking in terms of health in early September. Coach Chuck Pagano seems pleased with Bradshaw, saying he "understands" what it takes to be ready and it's only a "bonus" if he plays in a preseason game.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

hey EG,I know you follow the steelers closely and respect your opinions about them (or knowledge of facts about them, as case may be)...

just wanted to clarify this , as obviously it could be really important with a lot of drafts taking place in next few weeks...

I can't confirm it, but maybe it just because hasn't hit the news cycle yet (though with something this big, it would seemingly be all over the news very quickly...

1 - since mon or tues, seemed to be consensus that bell does have mid foot sprain, confirmed to be lis franc...

2 - it may have taken additional day or two to get second opinion, but later emerged non-surgical rehab prescribed (best possible news under circumstances - given lis franc sprain)

3 - instead of almost certainly missing the whole season if surgery needed, the prognosis was reduced to 6-8 weeks (not sure if it was covered as much, as what I am about to note is more speculative, inferential, conjectural - it wouldn't be surprise if it ended up being longer, as some of the recent case history profiles, even with non-surgical, rehab variant, have been decidedly mixed, with MJD, for instance, who after an interval attempting to avoid surgery, needed it later anyways, merely prolonging recovery ETA...

* this question could be posed to board as well... is there any recent information or news that conflicts with or contradicts above?

I'm going strictly by what came out of Tomlin's mouth rather than the various "it is a Lisfranc, it isn't a Lisfranc" reports. Tomlin said that the injury is not as sever as they had feared, that surgery definitely won't be needed, that he's already doing rehab exercises and can put weight on it without pain, and that he isn't definitively ruled out for any games beyond the one on Saturday. Now, I don't think he's playing again in the pre-season, but based on this, anything from week 1 to week 6 seems like a possibility, but they also said the walking boot he's wearing is "a precaution" and that it's a sprain, not a tear.

They also asked him about the 6-8 week reports and he said he hadn't been told that by anyone and isn't sure where that report came from. It's my best guess (and that's all this is) that he stays off of it for a few weeks and is back in the lineup by week 3 or 4. With a week 5 bye, if they don't put him on the PUP list, it's a pretty good sign that he'll be able to play in the first 4 weeks. I don't know that they'd carry him on the 53 for the first 4 games just so he can play week 6 after the bye.

 

[TheFanatic]

Bell walking without pain. They are encouraged by the progress over the last 48 hours. No tear but a sprain.

I just read this great article someone else posted earlier. But it tries to clear up some terminology, including the fact that A Sprain is a Tear.

I think you may be misinformed if you heard he was walking without pain. You're not supposed to put any weight on a lisfranc for several weeks. Just how torn and separated things are in the foot determines if it will heal without surgery.

How am I misinformed if it came from his mouth?Ray Fittipaldo ‏@rayfitt1 48m

Le'Veon Bell said he is walking without discomfort. He is encouraged by his progress.

You would be misinformed for a couple of reasons:

1 - It was reported to be a mid-foot sprain, and thought to be a lisfranc injury.

2 - He is in a walking boot and on crutches.

3 - With a lisfranc, and I suspect (although I am no doctor, I'm only repeating my research) with a mid foot sprain the absolutely most important thing is never to put any weight on the foot, not for at least 4-6 weeks.

So, if Bell was "walking without discomfort" then he either doesn't have the kind of injury that was reported and should be ready to play in two or three days like Jamal Charles, or he is ignoring every doctor's advice and has removed the cast and is putting weight on it, or you are misinformed. I'm guessing that guy you linked to sent some bad information over twitter.

One last note. Sometimes text can be read a few ways. In no way is this any sort of personal attack, please don't read it that way. I'm just laying out the facts as they've been reported so that we're all as knowledgeable as we can be on the subject. I have a rookie draft coming up and there's a chance Bell falls to be so I've been studying this like the crazy obsessive person that I am. I did the same thing a few years ago with Mikel Leshoure and learned enough to pass on a guy with a ruptured Achilles, so far that has been a good decision.

My take on Bell is that he's safe to draft if no surgery is required because I'm more confident in his ability to heal to 100%. If surgery is required then there are players I think are much safer gambles at my draft slot.

Tomlin already talked to the media about this. It is not a Lisfranc injury and no surgery is required. Tomlin would only rule him out for Saturday's game against KC, then they'll take it from there.

All indications right now are that this is not nearly as significant an injury as was first reported. Use this information to your advantage. I acquired Bell in a straight swap for Alshon Jeffery yesterday (PPR) and Bell went in round 5, I took Jeffery in the 15th.

hey EG,I know you follow the steelers closely and respect your opinions about them (or knowledge of facts about them, as case may be)...

just wanted to clarify this , as obviously it could be really important with a lot of drafts taking place in next few weeks...

I can't confirm it, but maybe it just because hasn't hit the news cycle yet (though with something this big, it would seemingly be all over the news very quickly...

1 - since mon or tues, seemed to be consensus that bell does have mid foot sprain, confirmed to be lis franc...

2 - it may have taken additional day or two to get second opinion, but later emerged non-surgical rehab prescribed (best possible news under circumstances - given lis franc sprain)

3 - instead of almost certainly missing the whole season if surgery needed, the prognosis was reduced to 6-8 weeks (not sure if it was covered as much, as what I am about to note is more speculative, inferential, conjectural - it wouldn't be surprise if it ended up being longer, as some of the recent case history profiles, even with non-surgical, rehab variant, have been decidedly mixed, with MJD, for instance, who after an interval attempting to avoid surgery, needed it later anyways, merely prolonging recovery ETA...

* this question could be posed to board as well... is there any recent information or news that conflicts with or contradicts above?

The key here, and it has been said about 30 times in the last two pages. IT IS NOT A LIS FRANK INJURY. Get that out of your head and move on. Way too much discussion of Lis Frank by you when it isn't that. Someone probably mentioned it on Twitter and everyone ran with it, but that was not the case.

 

[Casting Couch]

The key here, and it has been said about 30 times in the last two pages. IT IS NOT A LIS FRANK INJURY. Get that out of your head and move on. Way too much discussion of Lis Frank by you when it isn't that. Someone probably mentioned it on Twitter and everyone ran with it, but that was not the case.

I'm hearing it's a Lis Franc injury.

 

[MG345]

It's my best guess (and that's all this is) that he stays off of it for a few weeks and is back in the lineup by week 3 or 4. With a week 5 bye, if they don't put him on the PUP list, it's a pretty good sign that he'll be able to play in the first 4 weeks. I don't know that they'd carry him on the 53 for the first 4 games just so he can play week 6 after the bye.

They can't place him on the PUP list, as he has already practiced/played this preseason. PUP list is only available to players on the preseason PUP list, which includes players who have not passed their physical to be placed on the active list.

Just a slight correction, but notable considering we will not have any clue as to how long Bell is out, unless they hit him with the new IR rule, with the ability to return later in the year.