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RB Ollie Gordon II, MIA (3 Viewers)
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pinkstapler
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I understand it shouldn't effect his vision (and those who questioned what happened to his in 2024 are more than justified to), but I feel like him adding all that weight also contributed to his drop off from 2023. It was good to hear in that interview he's shedding it back off.
Also Melvin Gordon, Derrick Henry, Donta Foreman, Bryce Love, Najee Harris, Jonathan Taylor, Ken Walker, Bijan Robinson. The past 10 years of Doak award winners wound up having a very good track record of draft capital, NFL opportunities, and I think fantasy production. Getting Ollie Gordon in the 2nd round very well could feel like stealing come November 2025.
Also Melvin Gordon, Derrick Henry, Donta Foreman, Bryce Love, Najee Harris, Jonathan Taylor, Ken Walker, Bijan Robinson. The past 10 years of Doak award winners wound up having a very good track record of draft capital, NFL opportunities, and I think fantasy production. Getting Ollie Gordon in the 2nd round very well could feel like stealing come November 2025.
I don't see how he's not a day 3 guy, and not a particularly interesting one. I think there is a serious question if he's even a top 15 RB in this class, given his off-field issues. I wouldn't fault a team for not even having him on the board at all.4.6 forty.
He should have stayed in school.
I don't see how he's not a day 3 guy, and not a particularly interesting one. I think there is a serious question if he's even a top 15 RB in this class, given his off-field issues. I wouldn't fault a team for not even having him on the board at all.4.6 forty.
He should have stayed in school.
At 226 lbs, that doesn’t seem so serious
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe not but I didn’t expect him to be so blind in 2024. He needed a service dog last season to help him find the cut back lanes.I don't see how he's not a day 3 guy, and not a particularly interesting one. I think there is a serious question if he's even a top 15 RB in this class, given his off-field issues. I wouldn't fault a team for not even having him on the board at all.4.6 forty.
He should have stayed in school.
At 226 lbs, that doesn’t seem so serious
Oof. Latavius Murray had a terrible running style. His value was being a 230-pound guy who ran a 4.3.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Agreed a Murray comp is not exciting, but he hung around long enough to play nine seasons in the NFL anyway with nearly 60 rushing touchdowns. Ollie is someone who I will probably let someone else take a chance on as there is really nothing about his game that impresses me much.
My point about Murray though is that he hung around for 9 years because when he came out, he ran a 4.3 at 230 pounds and slowly slowed down. If he ran 4.6 he wouldn't have made it to the end of his rookie deal. Add on being a knucklehead, and that's kinda my expectation with Gordon, probably not someone I'd be wanting to bet will be in the NFL in 2030.
My personal opinion of Gordon's talent is 7th round flier. Given the knucklehead factor, probably not even a guy on my board. I agree 100% with @JohnnyU about his vision, but I also think he's not particularly powerful for his size, in addition to having no burst.
I have no idea why he declared. He absolutely needed another year to rehab his value. I'd be blown away if he was a day 2 pick, especially in a loaded class. I can't even see a case for him as a top 10 RB in this class.
Max Power
Footballguy
I saw the Chiefs met with him. If he goes there in a late round, I can see a value explosion.
Disclaimer, I'm already one share in on Ollie, so hoping for a better landing spot vs draft capital.
6th round draft capital is not promising, but Jaylen Wright was getting serious hype last year and that was with Mostert still on the roster. Gordon seems to have a different style/skillset than the other backs on the roster so is it possible McDaniel has a plan aand a role in mind for Ollie? I can't shake the fact that this guy put up such a MONSTER year in 2023, at Oklahoma State (SEC), as a Sophomore:
1,732 yards rushing, 21 TDS - on 285 carries (6.1 Y/A, 123.7 Y/G), 39 receptions for 330 yards (8.5 Y/R, 23.6 Y/G)
Was a consensus All-American and finished 7th in the Heisman voting.
Is he washed at 21 or was last year just a bad year for Ollie and the OK State offense, and the Dolphins got a steal?
1,732 yards rushing, 21 TDS - on 285 carries (6.1 Y/A, 123.7 Y/G), 39 receptions for 330 yards (8.5 Y/R, 23.6 Y/G)
Was a consensus All-American and finished 7th in the Heisman voting.
Is he washed at 21 or was last year just a bad year for Ollie and the OK State offense, and the Dolphins got a steal?
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titusbramble
Footballguy
You mean Wright, right?
I did mean Jaylen Wright, yes. Good catch
Football Jones
Footballguy
I believe they got a steal...one of the bigger ones in the draft, IMO. Ollie dominated college football in '23, winning the Doak Walker Award as a 19-year old. If he would've been eligible a year ago, we're probly looking at an early 2nd round pick.
The biggest reason for Gordon's lack of production this past season was Oklahoma State's offense. It was terrible. Combine Ollie's lack of production with the deepest class in years and you get a big fall from grace. The 6th round is a joke, though.
Ollie is a dawg (the good kind) and I suspect he'll make some noise in Miami...maybe right away. Miami sucked in short-yardage situations last year so I'm guessing McDaniel has plans to use him as his hammer, but Gordon has the talent to be a feature back. I'm curious to see what he can do this season.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Hope springs eternal. I admire that in someone.
Football Jones
Footballguy
BTW, I've heard people talk about the 4.6 40, but Gordon has had plenty of long runs in his career. He's got pretty good long speed, especially for a 226-pounder. I believe he was a little heavier than that this past season.
People talk like Kaleb Johnson has good burst for a big guy, yet I believe Gordon had more long runs than Johnson did this past year even with the added weight (certainly in '23)...and it was done in a much worse offense in '24.
Ollie can pick 'em up and put 'em down, especially for a big guy.
People talk like Kaleb Johnson has good burst for a big guy, yet I believe Gordon had more long runs than Johnson did this past year even with the added weight (certainly in '23)...and it was done in a much worse offense in '24.
Ollie can pick 'em up and put 'em down, especially for a big guy.
Football Jones
Footballguy
I especially like the "bad vision" comments, lol. Ollie somehow lost all his skillz after 2023 as a 19-year old. 
Gordon seems like he's one of those polarizing prospects. Jacory Croskey-Merritt is another RB who shouldn't have been drafted so late, but he got ruled ineligible and only played 1 game this season. JCM is simply a better runner than the vast majority of RBs taken ahead of him. That said, it doesn't mean he'll do anything. It's difficult to overcome late day-3 draft status. That's just how the league works.
Gordon seems like he's one of those polarizing prospects. Jacory Croskey-Merritt is another RB who shouldn't have been drafted so late, but he got ruled ineligible and only played 1 game this season. JCM is simply a better runner than the vast majority of RBs taken ahead of him. That said, it doesn't mean he'll do anything. It's difficult to overcome late day-3 draft status. That's just how the league works.
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Football Jones
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Thank you
