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RB Ronald Jones, Cowboys (1 Viewer)

In redraft, I just missed out on a #3 RB target so I figured I'd grab both Fournette and R. Jones with back to back picks on the turn late in the draft. Figured having the RB piece of this offense would be valuable.

Not so much so far.

Latest quotes from Arians not too flattering for Jones. Feels like Fournette may be starting to pull away.

Tempted to drop Jones, but I know the second I do, Fournette breaks his ankle.

 
The blitz pickup he missed Sunday was suuuuuuuuper bad. Maybe his worst yet and there have been some doozies. He got Brady killed. 
 

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s totally phased out and they even start to sprinkle Vaughn in. 

 
What can we expect from Jones tomorrow?

As a Cook and Henderson owner (both playing 3:00 games) Ronald is looking like my desperation backup.

This is not a good thing.

 
Ronald Jones had five rushes for 11 yards in the Bucs' Week 3 loss to the Rams. 

Jones played all of 12 snaps in a game that saw Tampa fall behind early and use Gio Bernard as its main pass-catching back. Jones is settled into Bruce Arians' spacious doghouse after a costly Week 1 fumble and a whiff on a blitz pickup in Week 2. Arians and the Bucs staff have no confidence in Jones, and it shows week after week. As long as Leonard Fournette is healthy, Jones is a fantasy non-factor.

 
Holding only because there isn't much of anything RB wise on the WW. Only opportunity I see for him is if Fournette is injured. 

 
Holding only because there isn't much of anything RB wise on the WW. Only opportunity I see for him is if Fournette is injured. 


Right, but why not hold a T. Jones instead? More upside if a Kamara goes down.

Even if Fournette goes down TB just doesn't run the ball. Plus, Gio in the mix and RoJo doesn't catch.

 
Right, but why not hold a T. Jones instead? More upside if a Kamara goes down.

Even if Fournette goes down TB just doesn't run the ball. Plus, Gio in the mix and RoJo doesn't catch.
Fournette has a history of getting banged up.  I would definitely expect TB to put more emphasis on running after getting pasted this past week. RJII has had stretches where he looks unstoppable (weeks 4-6 last year for example).   I think there are better days coming for the Bucs runners and as long as you are patient both are really cheap for the potential upside.

 
Rojo was dropped in my league, 12 team 0.5 ppr.  RB is  wasteland on the wire due to deep benches..... He looked damn good last year when they featured him....I am thinking of dropping Mooney for him.  Is he behind Keshawn now?

 
Rojo was dropped in my league, 12 team 0.5 ppr.  RB is  wasteland on the wire due to deep benches..... He looked damn good last year when they featured him....I am thinking of dropping Mooney for him.  Is he behind Keshawn now?
Keshawn has been inactive every week.  Jones has been active but played little. 

 
He’s probably droppable in redraft at this point. Or “back of the bench lottery ticket” in case others (Lenny) get lab hurt. 

He’s a hold in dynasty in hopes another team picks him up next year, or TB moves on from Fournette. IIRC Lenny is on a 1-year deal at 26 (27 in Jan) and RoJo is 24, (25 in august). 

Jones is a UFA after this year and I’d truly love to see him go to a team with a more player-friendly HC. Arians is great with vets, but his handling of RoJo borders on madness. He’s ruining a talented young back and I hate to see it. 

 
He’s ruined him? Jones can’t catch and can’t block. He’s had plenty of opportunities to show that he can. He’s a great runner, but to get consistent playing time you must be able to do those things at least adequately in this offense and Jones flat out can’t. 

 
He’s ruined him? Jones can’t catch and can’t block. He’s had plenty of opportunities to show that he can. He’s a great runner, but to get consistent playing time you must be able to do those things at least adequately in this offense and Jones flat out can’t. 
Yup. Jones ruined himself. Blaming Arians at this point for not playing him is just not paying attention to anything other than how RJ just carries the ball. Lot more to it than that. 
 

I also don’t know who will want him this off-season. He is who he is at this point. Yea I’m sure he could get a 1.5M dollar deal for one year but he’s not going to be guaranteed anybody’s starter spot. 

 
Ronald Jones rushed six times for 25 yards and a touchdown in the Bucs' Week 4 win over the Patriots.

Jones had the same role despite Giovani Bernard being sidelined. The Bucs gave him five touches on a 16% snap share in Week 3 and played him on 17% of snaps this week. Jones salvaged his night with a eight-yard TD in the third quarter for the Bucs' only touchdown. Even if Bernard isn’t back next week, Jones is likely to remain in the lesser half of a timeshare with Fournette.

Oct 4, 2021, 12:35 AM ET

 
Coach Bruce Arians "laughed at the idea" of the Bucs potentially trading Ronald Jones.

Jones is in the final year of his rookie contract and obviously has no future in the organization beyond this season, but he does represent experienced depth for a Bucs team looking to make another run at the Super Bowl. That's some value. But Jones' role has evaporated, functioning only as Leonard Fournette's breather back. Jones is averaging a mere five carries per game at 3.8 yards a pop. Jones would need a Fournette injury to be of any value in fantasy.

SOURCE: Pewter Report

Oct 20, 2021, 2:57 PM ET

 
I had to drop him yesterday to cover some byes this week. I really didn't want to because I think he will have an opportunity down the road. 

 
Leonard Fournette

Sits out Thursday's practice

December 16, 2021

Fournette (ankle) didn't practice Thursday, Carmen Vitali of the Buccaneers' official site reports.

ANALYSIS
Coach Bruce Arians relayed to Greg Auman of The Athletic on Wednesday that Fournette is tending to a sore ankle, which hasn't allowed the running back to take any reps so far this week. Fournette will have one more session to do so, but even if he doesn't get on the practice field there hasn't been any indication he's in danger of sitting out Sunday versus the Saints. Friday's injury report should provide some insight into his potential to play this weekend. Elsewhere in the Bucs backfield, Ronald Jones and Ke'Shawn Vaughn are the healthy options on the active roster, Kenjon Barner and Darwin Thompson are candidates to be elevated from the practice squad, and Giovani Bernard landed on IR on Tuesday.


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Ronald Jones rushed eight times for 63 yards and caught both of his targets for eight yards in Week 15 against the Saints.

Jones took over as the Bucs' lead back with Leonard Fournette (hamstring) leaving in the second half. Tampa's offense was shut out on 13 drives, but Jones was effective on the ground, averaging 7.9 YPC. Jones is lined up for a workhorse role in Week 16 if Fournette misses time, putting him in the RB2 mix against a middling Panthers run defense, and he has a potential matchup with the Jets in Week 17 if Fournette is out multiple games.

Dec 20, 2021, 12:05 AM ET

 
Oh my. Over in the Ke'Shawn Vaughn thread I'm reading that RoJo was spelled by Vaughn because RoJo got "gassed really quick," according to Bruce Arians. 

Is he even in shape? 

What is up with RoJo? 

 
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Oh my. Over in the Ke'Shawn Vaughn thread I'm reading that RoJo was spelled by Vaughn because RoJo got "gassed really quick," according to Bruce Arians. 

Is he even in shape? 

What is up with RoJo? 


Not surprising. He gets like 2 carries a game.

I would think a week of hard practice he'll get his wind up.

 
Oh my. Over in the Ke'Shawn Vaughn thread I'm reading that RoJo was spelled by Vaughn because RoJo got "gassed really quick," according to Bruce Arians. 

Is he even in shape? 

What is up with RoJo? 


He looked it (gassed) last night. I just figured he had the COVID like everyone else.

 
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Is RoJo the RB to get this week or what? With the loss of Godwin, Evans hurt as usual, and Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things.....Tom and Gronk are going to need some serious help.

 
Is RoJo the RB to get this week or what? With the loss of Godwin, Evans hurt as usual, and Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things.....Tom and Gronk are going to need some serious help.
Id say hes in the RB 15-18 range this week so he should be added in the very least to play keep away. Then next week they play the Jets and as long as he has a solid game this week he will be ranked in the top 12.

 
Is RoJo the RB to get this week or what? With the loss of Godwin, Evans hurt as usual, and Antonio Brown doing Antonio Brown things.....Tom and Gronk are going to need some serious help.


Potential league winner. With the RB stable I have, probably just a block, but he's def intriguing for the next 2 weeks.

 
I snagged him. Meanwhile the guy I am playing has AB (I have Brady).

I feel like the knight in Monty Python who has his arms and legs cut off but who still wants to fight. Imma at least bite the dude.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Potential league winner. With the RB stable I have, probably just a block, but he's def intriguing for the next 2 weeks.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic, and I'm not arguing people should sit Jones, but I can't help but feel Le'Veon Bell is going to play a much bigger role than people think he will. Jones always seems to find a way into Arians doghouse, and Bell is exactly the type of player both Arians and Brady like at the RB position, even if his big play ability is gone. 

I'm viewing Jones as more of an RB2 than a league winner. 

 
Ronald Jones is undergoing an MRI on his injured ankle. 

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said the team would know the extent of RoJo's injury early this week. Jones left the team's Week 17 win against the Jets before Ke'Shawn Vaughn exited with a rib injury. Arians said he's hopeful Vaughn will be able to play in Week 18 against Carolina. Le'Veon Bell is the lone healthy Tampa running back and could be the team's primary runner against the Panthers' marshmallow soft front seven. 

RELATED: 

Ke'Shawn Vaughn

, Le'Veon Bell

SOURCE: Greg Auman on Twitter 

Jan 3, 2022, 12:39 PM ET

 
Ronald Jones is headed to unrestricted free agency.

Jones did not play in the team's final game of the year because of an ankle issue. He was unlikely to be much of a factor if healthy as Leonard Fournette had all but eliminated him from the offense. Jones finished the year with a 101/428/4 rushing line. He was once viewed as an elite rushing prospect but Jones never quite lived up to the hype and has been a massive liability when not running. The Bucs will let Jones walk in free agency and his landing spot will play a big role in his fantasy value heading into the 2022 season. If Jones can earn a starting gig between the tackles, he could have some RB2/3 value. However, the most likely outcome is that he winds up in a committee and becomes nothing more than a late-round dart in fantasy drafts. 

Jan 24, 2022, 9:55 AM ET

 
He's going to land somewhere and be fantasy relevant IMO. 
He was really confusing to watch this year. Looked like he was picking up his paycheck and going home. No blitz pickups, running out of bounds when there were yards there, running weird routes. All of it. 

Maybe he does land somewhere with not much pressure and not much expectation and is serviceable, but it looks a bit grim for him right now. 

 
He's going to land somewhere and be fantasy relevant IMO. 
I think he'll have some value, but more likely will kill two birds with one stone by dampening the value of a presumed incumbent - like a Michael Carter type. 

 
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He's going to land somewhere and be fantasy relevant IMO. 


He's got a chance and I've said this before but he's just 7 months older the Najee Harris and looking at their combined touches in college/NFL with similar wear and tear.

What will work against him could be a game of musical chairs with the FA RB's and not enough seats.

I believe FA will impact the 2022 RB group more then the draft.

Ignoring more pure third down RB's like McKisskic here is notable FA RB in no particular order:Edmonds, Conner, Fournette,  Penny, Mostert,  C Patterson, Gordon, Foreman and Michel.

 
Ignoring more pure third down RB's like McKisskic here is notable FA RB in no particular order:Edmonds, Conner, Fournette,  Penny, Mostert,  C Patterson, Gordon, Foreman and Michel.
you make excellent points. 

It’s a tricky list to rate since they’re such different types of backs.

I’ll take a swag: 
1. Gordon - was hurt late in the season,  but man was he effective when he was healthy. Hasn’t lost a single step, he made several long house calls. Capable receiver out of the backfield. He could be a lead back for a team who has a complimentary RB to spell him. The downside is, it’s hard to say if he stayed healthy because he split the load. He’ll likely go somewhere as the lead back in a committee. 

2. Fournette - it was a weird season for “playoff Lenny”. He might be more of a 1a on this list. Like Gordon, age & durability are concerns. Like Brady, he also might not want to be part of a rebuild, but the Bucs clearly prefer him to their other options & I'm not sure anyone’s seen enough of Vaughn to rely on him as a lead back. 

3. Connor - career says he’s injury-prone, but seeing what he did when healthy, teams will bite. He also got hurt late, which won’t help that perception. I could see incentive-laden contract, but he should be among the 1st to sign. I could see AZ re-signing him & letting Edmonds walk while Benjamin takes the Edmonds role.

4. Sony was a mixed bag. I saw him do some good things. I also saw him shut down by the 49ers & get his lunch eaten by Cam Akers (did he even touch the ball? 1 carry in a game Akers fumbled twice?) - I’m not sure Sony is as good as he looked at times, or if that was a byproduct of a capable OL opening big holes for him. I was impressed by his performance, but I’m not sure it was enough to parlay into a feature back role. I could see him in Seattle if they don’t keep Penny.  

5. Penny - small sample size. Some great. Some not great. Not sure what it means for his future - he’s an enigma. His career is a whole lot of hurt & mediocre, then he has a paycheck on the line & comes out ballin. He’ll latch on somewhere, may even become FF relevant again, but I’m not sure teams will view him as a feature back. 

6. Foreman may well have increased his earning power in that playoff game, because wow he looked good. He had some solid games in Henry’s absence. Could see the Titans retaining him if the price isn’t crazy high. 

7. CPat. Oof this one was hard. Is he what we saw, or was he the byproduct of being one of the few playmakers on a team devoid of them? He’s not young. He’s never shown anything like that before. He’ll be 31. Yeah - he’ll play somewhere - hopefully in ATL. I’m fading him in FF drafts because I’m worried the regression/injury fairies will show up with a vengeance. I’m betting NFL GMs will as well.

8.  Edmonds - I do not see Edmonds taking a staring gig. IMO he’ll go somewhere as a complimentary back. He’s shown his ceiling, IMO.

9.  Mostert - dude is made of glass. And he’s just short of 30. He’ll possibly be a 3rd down/breather back somewhere. Likely not a huge priority for whichever team signs him. 

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So that leaves RoJo. At 24 he’s the youngest on the list by quite a bit, and has lower mileage than most. He’s shown some upside, and is a little underrated as a receiver (quite a few times Arians retaliated against RoJo for terrible throws by Brady. Balls at his feet, set-ups for direct hits by LB, etc) 

Is he a great receiver? No - but he isn’t terrible either. His late season injury likely didn’t help his stock, but he could absolutely be a between the tackles early down & GL back. 

The question is where does he fall on that list?  Between Sony & Penny? :shrug:  

 
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you make excellent points. 

It’s a tricky list to rate since they’re such different types of backs.

I’ll take a swag: 
1. Gordon - was hurt late in the season,  it man was he effective when he was healthy. Hasn’t lost a single step, he made several long house calls. Capable receiver out of the backfield. He could be a lead back for a team who has a complimentary RB to spell him. The downside is, it’s hard to say if he stayed healthy because he split the load. He’ll likely go somewhere as the lead back in a committee. 

2. Fournette - it was a weird season for “playoff Lenny”. He might be more of a 1a on this list. Like Gordon, age & durability are concerns. Like Brady, he also might not want to be part of a rebuild, but the Bucs clearly prefer him to their other options & I'm not sure anyone’s seen enough of Vaughn to rely on him as a lead back. 

3. Connor - career says he’s injury-prone, but seeing what he did when healthy, teams will bite. He also got hurt late, which won’t help that perception. I could see incentive-laden contract, but he should be among the 1st to sign. I could see AZ re-signing him & letting Edmonds walk while Benjamin takes the Edmonds role.

4. Sony was a mixed bag. I saw him do some good things. I also saw him shut down by the 49ers & get his lunch eaten by Cam Akers (did he even touch the ball? 1 carry in a game Akers fumbled twice?) - I’m not sure Sony is as good as he looked at times, or if that was a byproduct of a capable OL opening big holes for him. I was impressed by his performance, but I’m not sure it was enough to parlay into a feature back role. I could see him in Seattle if they don’t keep Penny.  

5. Penny - small sample size. Some great. Some not great. Not sure what it means for his future - he’s an enigma. His career is a whole lot of hurt & mediocre, then he has a paycheck on the line & comes out ballin. He’ll latch on somewhere, may even become FF relevant again, but I’m not sure teams will view him as a feature back. 

6. Foreman may well have increased his earning power in that playoff game, because wow he looked good. He had some solid games in Henry’s absence. Could see the Titans retaining him if the price isn’t crazy high. 

7. CPat. Oof this one was hard. Is he what we saw, or was he the byproduct of being one of the few playmakers on a team devoid of them? He’s not young. He’s never shown anything like that before. He’ll be 31. Yeah - he’ll play somewhere - hopefully in ATL. I’m fading him in FF drafts because I’m worried the regression/injury fairies will show up with a vengeance. I’m betting NFL GMs will as well.

8.  Edmonds - I do not see Edmonds taking a staring gig. IMO he’ll go somewhere as a complimentary back. He’s shown his ceiling, IMO.

9.  Mostert - dude is made of glass. And he’s just short of 30. He’ll possibly be a 3rd down/breather back somewhere. Likely not a huge priority for whichever team signs him. 

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So that leaves RoJo. At 24 he’s the youngest on the list by quite a bit, and has lower mileage than most. He’s shown some upside, and is a little underrated as a receiver (quite a few times Arians retaliated against RoJo for terrible throws by Brady. Balls at his feet, set-ups for direct hits by LB, etc) 

Is he a great receiver? No - but he isn’t terrible either. His late season injury likely didn’t help his stock, but he could absolutely be a between the tackles early down & GL back. 

The question is where does he fall on that list?  Between Sony & Penny? :shrug:  
Nice writeup. I think the only sure thing is that there will be more RBBCs next year (all these RB injuries will probably ensure than anyway), and a lot of disappointed owners who will see incumbents have to share the load a lot more than expected. RBs are cheap goods - even teams with very entrenched RBs can build quality depth at a reasonably low price.

 
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Nice writeup. I think the only sure thing is that there will probably be more RBBCs next year and a lot of disappointed owners who will see incumbents have to share the load a lot more than expected. RBs are cheap goods - even teams with very entrenched RBs can build quality depth at a reasonably low price.
Agree. 

 

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