RB Roschon Johnson, CHI (1 Viewer)

[bcat01]

I am guessing he is droppable for Jameson Williams since I had to go to page 6 to find his thread?

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I am guessing he is droppable for Jameson Williams since I had to go to page 6 to find his thread?

The exact move I just made.

 

[Weebs210]

I am guessing he is droppable for Jameson Williams since I had to go to page 6 to find his thread?

The exact move I just made.

Patience is a virtue. Wheels up for Roschon and he has extra days to pass his concussion.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Herbert is going to miss a few weeks, so it’s worth hanging on to Roschon if you have the roster space.

 

[rockaction]

Considering I drafted him at 2.7 in the rookie draft I had back in May, I have the space. I didn't touch him in redraft.

 

[packer_junkie]

Wonder how things shake out this week-- Just added him in a redraft trade---> Was clearly ahead of foreman pre concussion but maybe they use both quite a bit-- especially with fields out?

I am pretty desperate at RB2 (Its either him or Jaylen Warren) for now

 

[jobarules]

Wonder how things shake out this week-- Just added him in a redraft trade---> Was clearly ahead of foreman pre concussion but maybe they use both quite a bit-- especially with fields out?

I am pretty desperate at RB2 (Its either him or Jaylen Warren) for now

It will probably be an RBBC between him and Foreman and with a rookie QB at the helm it might be ugly. I like the matchup but I think Id rather start Warren this week anyway.

 

[Boone22]

I just want him to get through the protocol first. Then I’ll be happy.

 

[packer_junkie]

was it a nasty hit? Does he have concussion history?

 

[VikingFrog]

was it a nasty hit? Does he have concussion history?

I don’t know if it was the hit that caused it, because I was watching red zone so only saw portion of the game.

But I saw him deliver a nasty hit leading with his helmet while carrying the ball. And remember when it happened thinking damn he probably just rung his own bell there, and could have been a penalty but wasn’t called.

 

[jobarules]

was it a nasty hit? Does he have concussion history?

I don’t know if it was the hit that caused it, because I was watching red zone so only saw portion of the game.

But I saw him deliver a nasty hit leading with his helmet while carrying the ball. And remember when it happened thinking damn he probably just rung his own bell there, and could have been a penalty but wasn’t called.

It was the Thursday Night game

 

[barackdhouse]

There was a crazy corkscrew hit where he led with his helmet and got nailed hard from an angle that twisted his body a couple times. It was actually quite impressive to watch. He got right back up from it but it wasn't much longer before he was declared out. I really need him this week even with a backup QB and split with Foreman.

 

[VikingFrog]

was it a nasty hit? Does he have concussion history?

I don’t know if it was the hit that caused it, because I was watching red zone so only saw portion of the game.

But I saw him deliver a nasty hit leading with his helmet while carrying the ball. And remember when it happened thinking damn he probably just rung his own bell there, and could have been a penalty but wasn’t called.

It was the Thursday Night game

That’s right. Then I was probably wrestling screaming kids or something.

I just remember seeing a run he made where he dropped his head against the defender and took a pretty big hit.

 

[VikingFrog]

There was a crazy corkscrew hit where he led with his helmet and got nailed hard from an angle that twisted his body a couple times. It was actually quite impressive to watch. He got right back up from it but it wasn't much longer before he was declared out. I really need him this week even with a backup QB and split with Foreman.

Yep. That’s what I remember as well.

 

[barackdhouse]

Here it is https://youtu.be/zUQIpQP8VBY?si=IheWkHrYJ21ow_d3

 

[Weebs210]

I would be very surprised if he doesn't clear this week. I'm going to flex him over Najee in one and over Javonte in another if he clears.

 

[Faust]

Chris O’Brien
Roschon Johnson
FAAB: 10-15%

Roschon has looked great, averaging 4.9 YPC

He’s been spelling Khalil Herbert with Foreman inactive

Foreman did fine, but nothing to wow with Roschon sidelined last week

https://twitter.com/17gamepace/status/1714263346449727979?s=21

Alex Caruso
Roschon Johnson is expected to be the Bears RB1 when he returns this week

And will have at least 3 games as the starter with Khalil Herbert on IR

Which means he will have a few chances to take the #1 RB job for the rest of the year

https://twitter.com/alexcaruso/status/1714633191670046969?s=21

 

[Weebs210]

Still in concussion protocol but he is practicing. Good sign for this week

 

[packer_junkie]

Legs should be fresh!!

 

[Drake Hater]

Won't be surprised if he takes over this backfield significantly going forward.

 

[jobarules]

Won't be surprised if he takes over this backfield significantly going forward.

I would. Herbert is a very talented RB and he was the one taking over before he got hurt. I can see a full time share but not complete takeover.

 

[Weebs210]

Won't be surprised if he takes over this backfield significantly going forward.

I would. Herbert is a very talented RB and he was the one taking over before he got hurt. I can see a full time share but not complete takeover.

That's not exactly true. Roschon got the second drive then got a concussion on his first touch.

 

[jobarules]

Won't be surprised if he takes over this backfield significantly going forward.

I would. Herbert is a very talented RB and he was the one taking over before he got hurt. I can see a full time share but not complete takeover.

That's not exactly true. Roschon got the second drive then got a concussion on his first touch.

Herbert started taking over the week before. Check the touches and snap counts

 

[Weebs210]

Won't be surprised if he takes over this backfield significantly going forward.

I would. Herbert is a very talented RB and he was the one taking over before he got hurt. I can see a full time share but not complete takeover.

That's not exactly true. Roschon got the second drive then got a concussion on his first touch.

Herbert started taking over the week before. Check the touches and snap counts

I'm talking about the most recent week though. Plus roschon will have plenty of time to show what he has while Herbert in on IR

 

[jobarules]

DNP

 

[LawFitz]

Still in concussion protocol but he is practicing. Good sign for this week

DNP

 

[jobarules]

Still in concussion protocol but he is practicing. Good sign for this week

DNP

Roschon Johnson (concussion) did not practice Wednesday.
Johnson suffered his concussion during the Bears’ Thursday night game in Week 5. He did not practice last week and sat out on Sunday. Unless he returns to practice in short order, Johnson could be out for another game. D’Onta Foreman will start as long as he remains sidelined.
22m ago

 

[Weebs210]

Still in concussion protocol but he is practicing. Good sign for this week

DNP

I read he did but clearly that report was wrong. Not ideal...

 

[barackdhouse]

poop

 

[kyoun1e]

Not practicing.

 

[icehouse]

Damn...2 week concussion?

 

[JohnnyU]

I hope he doesn’t turn into Austin Collie

 

[kyoun1e]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

 

[Weebs210]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Declared out for Week 7

 

[kyoun1e]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

 

[FarFromHome]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

I was actually thinking this also. Must have been hit hard.

 

[Gottabesweet]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

Saw one of those fantasy doctor's say that there's only been like 12 cases of a skilled position player missing 2 games or more off 2+ weeks of rest (He's on 2.5 weeks) as they played that TNF.

 

[Weebs210]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

 

[jobarules]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

 

[BobbyLayne]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

interesting, did not know that

NFL Concussion Diagnosis and Management Protocol

Amended As of October 8, 2022 page 15-17

The Return-To-Participation Protocol:

Phase One: Symptom Limited Activity

The player-patient is prescribed rest, limiting or, if necessary, avoiding activities (both physical and cognitive) which increase or aggravate symptoms. During this Phase, the player-patient may engage in activities of daily living as well as limited stretching and balance activities as tolerated at the discretion of the Club medical staff. Phase 1 may include LIGHT aerobic activity and, if tolerated, attending team meetings and/or film study. Should additional medical issues present, the Club physician should consider external consultation or additional diagnostic examinations.

If the player-patient does not experience an increase in his symptoms and does not develop signs of concussion on neurological examination, he may be cleared to proceed to the next Phase.

Phase Two: Aerobic Exercise

Phase Two involves the initiation of a graduated exercise program. Under the direct oversight of the Club’s medical staff, the player-patient should begin graduated cardiovascular
exercise (e.g., stationary bicycle, treadmill) and may also engage in dynamic stretching and balance training. The duration and intensity of all activity may be gradually increased so long
as the player-patient does not increase or aggravate signs or symptoms while performing the activity and for a reasonable period thereafter. If there is an increase or aggravation of signs
or symptoms, the activity should be discontinued. He may, however, attend regular team meetings and engage in film study. At Phase Two, the player should be back to his baseline
level of symptoms or the Team Physician reasonably determines that the symptoms are not related to concussion.

Once the player-patient has demonstrated his ability to engage in cardiovascular exercise without an increase or aggravation of signs or symptoms, and his symptom burden is at or below
his baseline, he may proceed to the next Phase.

Phase Three: Football Specific Exercise

The player-patient continues with supervised cardiovascular exercises that are increased and begin to mimic sport specific activities, as well as supervised strength training. The player-patient is allowed to practice with the team in sport specific exercise for 30 minutes or less,with ongoing and careful symptom monitoring by the medical staff. If neurocognitive testing was not administered after Phase Two, it should be administered during Phase Three. If a player-patient’s initial neurocognitive testing is interpreted by the NPC as being indicative of residual cognitive impairment(s) due to the concussion, the tests will be repeated at a time interval agreed upon by the Club physician and NPC (typically 48 hours). The player-patient should not proceed to contact activities until their neurocognitive testing is interpreted as back to their baseline level by the NPC or, if a decrement is still present, until the Club physician has determined a non-concussion related cause. The determination of when to proceed with contact activities is ultimately made by the Club physician.

Once the player-patient has demonstrated his ability to engage in cardiovascular exercise and supervised strength training without an increase or aggravation of signs or symptoms, hemay proceed to the next Phase.

Phase Four: Club-based Non-contact Training Drills

The player-patient may continue cardiovascular conditioning, strength and balance training,team-based sport-specific exercise, and participate in non-contact football activities such as throwing, catching, running and other position-specific activities, progressing to participation in non-contact team practice activities. To be clear, all activities at this Phase remain noncontact (i.e.., no contact with other players or objects, such as tackling dummies or sleds).

If the player-patient is able to tolerate all football specific activity without a recurrence of signs or symptoms of concussion, if his neurocognitive testing has returned to baseline, and if his symptom burden remains at or below baseline, he may be moved to the next Phase in the sequence. For clarity: all signs, symptoms, and neurological examination (including neurocognitive testing and balance testing) must return to baseline status before returning to full football activity/clearance.Exceptionsto the neurocognitive component may be considered by the Club physician responsible for the diagnosis and treatment of concussion (in consultation with the NPC) on a case-by-case basis in player-patients with documented ADHD or learning disabilities.

Phase Five: Full Football Activity/ Clearance

After the player-patient has established his ability to participate in non-contact football activity including team meetings, conditioning and non-contact practice without recurrence of signs and symptoms and his neurocognitive testing is back to baseline, the Club physician may clear him for full football activity involving contact in practice. If the player-patient tolerates full participation practice and contact without signs or symptoms and the Club physician concludes that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved,s/he may clear the player-patient to return to participation. For the avoidance of doubt, if a player-patient cannot participate in practice or full contact with other players due to the time of year and/or rules imposed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement, simulated contact activity will suffice to satisfy this Phase. Upon clearance by the Club physician, the player-patient must be examined by the INC assigned to hisClub. The INC must be provided a copy of all relevant reports and tests, Amended As of October 8, 202217including the sideline and booth UNC reports, the Booth ATC Spotter report and team injury reports, and have access to video of the injury, where applicable, and the player-patient’s neurocognitive test results and interpretations. If the INC confirms the Club physician’s conclusion that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, the player-patient’s neurocognitive test results and interpretations. If the INC confirms the Club physician’s conclusion that the player-patient’s concussion has resolved, the player-patient is
considered cleared and may participate in his Club’s next game or practice.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

Under certain conditions it is not - see post above

 

[Weebs210]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

 

[RenegadeRoy]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocol changed this year IIRC after the Tua nonsense last year.

 

[jobarules]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocols changed after Tua

 

[Weebs210]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocols changed after Tua

Someone literally posted the protocol above (post tua) try again.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocols changed after Tua

Someone literally posted the protocol above (post tua) try again.

Phase five is practice, no?

 

[jobarules]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocols changed after Tua

Someone literally posted the protocol above (post tua) try again.

Dude you've been wrong multiple times in this thread. Why are you taking this so personal?

 

[Weebs210]

https://twitter.com/DrJesseMorse/status/1715093260060766587

I know many don't like this guy, but solid explanation of the steps and what COULD be up with this guy.

Fortunately he is wrong and roschon still has a chance to play this week.

Nope.

Starting to wonder if he'll be IR'd. Can't remember a player recently who took a couple weeks to clear.

?? I didn't say he was going to clear but you don't have to practice to get cleared.

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

No you really don't. Stevenson missed practice all week still played on a Sunday a year or two ago

Protocols changed after Tua

Someone literally posted the protocol above (post tua) try again.

Dude you've been wrong multiple times in this thread. Why are you taking this so personal?

You are clearly wrong. Sorry that it upsets you

 

[jobarules]

Yes you do. It's one of the steps of the concussion protocol

Under certain conditions it is not - see post above

Yeah those circumstances don't exist when teams can practice. Seems pretty cut and dry.