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RB Saquon Barkley, PHI (2 Viewers)
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fightingillini
Footballguy
Tough matchup on the ground.
16 car, 50 yds rushing.......6 rec, 45 yds receiving.....75% chance of a TD.
Next week's matchup against MIA is nice.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Sure, but not if you or on a team that stinks and against a run D thats tough.
I like saquan, but he is not giving his owners any confidence.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Not what you need, I said. lol
He aint getting that. No way.
He is allergic to scoring points, let alone getting yards.
I had Miami next week on my mind. I'd keep the receiving stats the same and drop rushing to 17-85-1.
Not what you need, I said. lol
He aint getting that. No way.
He is allergic to scoring points, let alone getting yards.
az_prof
Footballguy
I had him cuffed at beginning of year but had to cut for a Bye week waiver pickup and another owner picked him up. I tried offering a 2020 third round pick and a young WR but he wanted a second round pick. I decided to take my chances because longterm I don't think Gallman has value and I think Barkley will play the next two weeks.
The Frankman
Footballguy
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dipandglide
Footballguy
Brutal year
IheartGuinness
Footballguy
Can't believe what a disappointment he's been.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
He cant see a hole to save his life. He doesnt use his power like he should and why is he not throwing every fit he cant to have them calls plays to get him outside. They were up 17-3 and decided to still pass int he rain instead of hand it to him play after play.
There is a reason why 6-8 coaches are fired every year. See the Giants head coach.
Use your studs. Throwing to Slayton? Cool, may have worked for a second, but it wont win games. That looked like the game plan in pooring rain was to throw it around with eli. No ball control nothing from the Giants.
Just imagine if Barkley was used like CMac.
He earned the spot of not being on my teams no matter what. You know how we always have that bad tatse from aplayer that screwed us.
Barkley just isnt good. He wants to be good, he has to earn it back. When you follow up last year with this year, you dont get to even be called good. Just a big plodder who doesnt catch many passes and doesnt get TDs.
Literally has no value right now. You want him in dyno knowing whats in store? I wont even take him with a new coach. Cuz studs can make holes and he couldnt.
There is a reason why 6-8 coaches are fired every year. See the Giants head coach.
Use your studs. Throwing to Slayton? Cool, may have worked for a second, but it wont win games. That looked like the game plan in pooring rain was to throw it around with eli. No ball control nothing from the Giants.
Just imagine if Barkley was used like CMac.
He earned the spot of not being on my teams no matter what. You know how we always have that bad tatse from aplayer that screwed us.
Barkley just isnt good. He wants to be good, he has to earn it back. When you follow up last year with this year, you dont get to even be called good. Just a big plodder who doesnt catch many passes and doesnt get TDs.
Literally has no value right now. You want him in dyno knowing whats in store? I wont even take him with a new coach. Cuz studs can make holes and he couldnt.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Yeah, hes just really really bad at football right now.
Maybe the offseason will give him the ability to find the few holes he gets. Cmac finds holes with a bad oline. Gallman has the highest scoring game for a Giant RB this year.
I would be tempted not to even start him against Miami and ended up pplaying Sanders over him this past week.
The better RB in h2h from Penn St. Not Barkley, but Sanders...and he missed out on 2 TDs that were his when he got stopped short in OT and he gave up to a vulture, not to mention that vulture thrived for the q Sanders missed. lol
irish eyes
Footballguy
Cant wait to unload this heaping pile of crap in the off season to someone who is enamored with the name. And, hasnt actually paid attention to how awful he was as all year.
I thought he looked good last night. Some tough inside running against one of the best D lines. Loved the stiff arms on one run.
All that said, he didn't produce. I don't think this is a function of him being injured. It's a function of a lousy offense. The NYG couldn't move the ball in the 2nd half.
I've somehow survived this to the semis. He's starting for me against Miami. That my friends is a lousy D. Game is at home. Maybe it's Eli's last stand as a NYG. I expect him to finally have a good game (while many are unfortunately in the consolation round).
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Didn't realize how much Saquon has been struggling. The ankle has obviously effected him as has the rookie QB but the loss of OBJ forcing a deep safety probably has also had an effect, see NFL league leading rusher Nick Chubb.
Taking everything into consideration, I can understand the frustration but Barkley should be back healthy next year.
Right now the ankle has to be the biggest factor in his struggles.
His first two games when he came into the season fully healthy he averaged:
Taking everything into consideration, I can understand the frustration but Barkley should be back healthy next year.
Right now the ankle has to be the biggest factor in his struggles.
His first two games when he came into the season fully healthy he averaged:
- 7.82 yards per carry
- 3.06 yards per carry
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Add in poor offensive line play and predictable play calling and not surprised we are where we are.
joffer
Footballguy
He looked very good last night. Jump cut was back. Spinning away from unblocked defenders. Some people here (not you) really can’t separate real and magic football when assessing a player. The Giants really didn’t run many plays in the second half. And the eagles are good against the run.
jwb
Footballguy
Agreed.
I needed about ten points from him last night to win 2 playoff games. He looked fine (heck, better than fine) running the ball. But the game script/flow simply didn't favor him for whatever reason. It was brutal/frustrating to watch. I won both games by less than one point on that stupid 4th qtr shovel pass.
Hopefully next week is better. I'm confident because of how he looked last night.
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mphtrilogy
Footballguy
well thanks to Henry I've made it to week 14, but now it's time... oh boy...
RUSF18
Footballguy
tackle for loss
Footballguy
I dont care how bad your offense is.
When you are getting one yard. ONE.
Its on you. Bad players on worse teams do better than that. Scott had like 24 or something touches before yesterday, he made Barkley look like an amateur.
And as stated, yes...zero 4th quarter running plays in a close game and only 3 catches for Barkley is bad coaching but this goes to Barkley needs to make a scene and demand the dang ball. He wont be the one shown the door, the HC will.
When you are getting one yard. ONE.
Its on you. Bad players on worse teams do better than that. Scott had like 24 or something touches before yesterday, he made Barkley look like an amateur.
And as stated, yes...zero 4th quarter running plays in a close game and only 3 catches for Barkley is bad coaching but this goes to Barkley needs to make a scene and demand the dang ball. He wont be the one shown the door, the HC will.
joffer
Footballguy
January 1, 1995 - Barry Sanders, 13 carries for -1 yard. Guess he was “really bad at football” too
Barkley had 2000+ total yards last year. He didn’t forget how to play football. His team got worse and he played through an injury.
Were you watching the game?
The Scott plays were well designed.
Everytime Barkley caught the ball there were two guys on him.
Watch the game.
az_prof
Footballguy
Thanks! I remember that game too. And you are totally right--even great players have bad games and do depend to some extent on the players and coaches around them.
I actually thought Barkley looked better last night--like maybe he is finally starting to get over ankle injury. I don't know why they didn't use him more but he can't control that. He was effective with the carries and holes he was given.
jwb
Footballguy
I agree - it horrendous play calling / game flow by the Giants (like Joffer mentioned - zero 4th qtr running plays. Amazing.)
Barkley himself looked fine.
shadyridr
Footballguy
tackle for loss
Footballguy
lol Comparing Barkley to Barry Sanders, who is a Hall of Famer, MVP and 2k rusher. He is a proven stud, Barkley is clearly a 1 hit wonder right now.
But, yeah, compare the two in any fashion. He forgot how to play football, many teams are bad and its football, many play through injuries, he wasnt even blaming his injury, but ur gonna?
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tackle for loss
Footballguy
It seems people want to make excuses for the player when the player says his ankle is fine. But hey, you guys need excuses so I understand.
tackle for loss
Footballguy
Is this the you disagree with me, so I didnt watch the game line. Zinger.
If you tell me to watch the game, I'll tell you read my post. I dont care how bad the offense is, studs make things happen. Barkley is no stud.
This reminds me of the Aaron Rodgers thread where people will just continue to defend a player regardless of what facts say.
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IheartGuinness
Footballguy
There's no explanation for this kind of decline. Maybe he spent the off-season working out with Trent Richardson?
leave a whisper
Footballguy
needs a new play caller ..... and 20+ touches every game
kutta
Footballguy
What are your thoughts on last year when Barkley was one of the few RB’s ever to total over 2000 yards? I’m just curious.
