DocHolliday
Footballguy
Droppable for a new reason? Williams emerging? Jones returning? Injury dragging on?Stompin' Tom Connors said:
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RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (1 Viewer)
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I'm really just trying to justify keeping him/dropping him. All of these issues are what keeps him on my bench, and with similar PPR options I have that are now healthy (like Woodhead), I don't see right now where Montgomery is a better starting option, and as such I think Montgomery becomes droppable for me in redraft.
Maybe it's obvious to others, but struggling with the notion of putting a guy like Montgomery out on the wire. I'm not using him and likely won't given factors you list, but would hate for TyMo to suddenly be back to being a meaningful contributor down the stretch -- and against me on someone else's team.
With Ty being put on IR you have to wonder if he might be done in Green Bay. I am sure he will be back in the NFL in some capacity on some team but it might just be as a backup receiver/special teams player.
His dynasty value is extremely low right now.
I don't think there is much chance he is back as a RB next year.
His dynasty value is extremely low right now.
I don't think there is much chance he is back as a RB next year.
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Agreed... I think he'll move back to WR... Perhaps a slot WR as potential replacement for Randall Cobb . My best guess is that Thompson would take one or two RBs in next year's NFL draft, which has a potentially load RB class.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The Packers need a lot of other positions filled. Montgomery will be back. No doubt.
After looking at this contract, I agree. He'll be back for one more year. He is signed cheap for next year.
I think the Pack have to re-sign Davante Adams as he clearly is their best receiver now. They likely will cut Cobb though and Montgomery filling in for Cobb makes a lot of sense. Even Cobb gets the occasional looks as a RB.
But Ty's completely done as a fulltime running back. Of that I am convinced.
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zamboni
Footballguy
I don't think they want or need him to carry the ball in a traditional sense. When he's lined up in the backfield, I can Rodgers throwing screens to him to get him into space.
I don't understand why anyone thinks this. I think just the opposite when I watch him, he's got good vision, moves, balance, etc.
I also haven't seen anyone important say that he's not the starter.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He looks unsure when he runs the ball.. That is plain to see. You have to admit he doesn't look like a running back when he runs. I don't think I'm alone with this thinking and if I am, please others chime in. He simply doesn't run like a running back.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
he will start as the starter, and it sounds like he will be a heavy part of their scheme. if healthy i think he has a heavy dose of receptions vut rushing attacks are limited to <10 per game. which isn't a big deal when hes bringing in those receptions.
I feel this offense will resemble, best it can, something like philly
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Coach Mike McCarthy said the Packers will have a "running back by committee."
"We feel like we've got three guys that have all done, but they haven't done it over a long period of time," McCarthy said, "so I think it's just practical thinking from that position and realizing that it's a very demanding position." McCarthy did leave open the possibility of one player emerging as the clear option, but it sounds like all of Jamaal Williams, Ty Montgomery, and Aaron Jones will have a role to open the season, terrible news for each player's fantasy prospects. Perhaps someone emerges in camp, but this is shaping up as a situation to avoid.
"We feel like we've got three guys that have all done, but they haven't done it over a long period of time," McCarthy said, "so I think it's just practical thinking from that position and realizing that it's a very demanding position." McCarthy did leave open the possibility of one player emerging as the clear option, but it sounds like all of Jamaal Williams, Ty Montgomery, and Aaron Jones will have a role to open the season, terrible news for each player's fantasy prospects. Perhaps someone emerges in camp, but this is shaping up as a situation to avoid.
Through two preseason games he looks the same to me as he always has: good instinct, vision, and balance.
(besides the fumble, of course, but that was on a kickoff)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m still targeting Aaron Jones as a 9-10 round lotto ticket. After his suspension that’ll more than likely be his backfield.
Ty will have a role - likely split wide & maybe a couple carries if AJones needs a blow, but I fully expect AJones to dominate the snap count starting week 3.
He earned it. And I like Ty Montgomery & invested in him the last couple years. AJones looks the part - IMO talk of RBBC is coach speak. And probably true weeks 1-2.
week 3 ~> and IMO Jones runs away with it.
Ty will have a role - likely split wide & maybe a couple carries if AJones needs a blow, but I fully expect AJones to dominate the snap count starting week 3.
He earned it. And I like Ty Montgomery & invested in him the last couple years. AJones looks the part - IMO talk of RBBC is coach speak. And probably true weeks 1-2.
week 3 ~> and IMO Jones runs away with it.
Once again, Montgomery was the best RB in the Packers' backfield this week. No idea what the coaches are thinking, he should always be in the game and Williams should only be used to give him breathers.
Of course, Jones is back this week so we'll have to see how that shakes out.
Of course, Jones is back this week so we'll have to see how that shakes out.
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
They're thinking that they have an all-world QB gutting out a knee injury that has sapped much of his mobility, and Williams is the best RB on the Packers in pass protection by a significant margin. It really isn't any more complicated than that.
I'm a big fan of both Jones' and Monty's talent, but for at least as long as A-Rod's knee is less than 100% I don't see this situation changing much.
I guess I don't see Williams as being all that much better than Montgomery at pass protection. I admit I haven't paid as much attention to that (and am not evaluating it as a coach would), but what I've seen from Montgomery has been fine.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Montgomery did have a nice blitz pickup too.
I don't think it was as night and day better as some people like to make it out though. Totally different styles of guys.
I don't think anyone is standing out as great at this point so will be interesting to see how Jones is mixed in.
I don't think it was as night and day better as some people like to make it out though. Totally different styles of guys.
I don't think anyone is standing out as great at this point so will be interesting to see how Jones is mixed in.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Sneaky play this week with all the WRs out ? I’m waiting on Adams to see if he plays but if he doesn’t maybe I’ll grab Ty off the wire and play him in my flex
Interseptopus
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
On radio just heard Adams likely to practice tomorrow...team hopeful Allison too.
Cobb for sure out.
Edit...link to tweet
https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1048220531655409666
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
I would be surprised if Allison played this week. Adams I expect to be playing, especially if Allison is out.
GB will need all receiving players on deck this week... Detroit can throw and score points.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Id agree...but if he passes protocol (today or in the morning). I don't necessarily see them holding him out.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Huh? The new GM is getting rid of all the dead weight drafted in 2015-17. Montgomery sucks. This was a decision made far easier - but not primarily because of - Ty's boneheaded play vs the Rams.
Deamon
Footballguy
Yes he might have been moved anyways, but you're crazy if you don't think Rodgers was in their ear about it.
I love the guy but once you get him mad or screw him over, he is done talking to you for life.
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Agree 100%. I think in the long run it will benefit Ty as he was a hated player in GB right now and the kind of selfish play he made is not going to be forgotten soon.
nittanylion
Footballguy
I'm bullish on this move by the Ravens. TyMont doesn't suck, he's versatile, and most importantly for FF, he's absolutely unique compared to any skill position player currently on that roster...
...the Ravens brought in Woodhead to be a key piece in that offense, he got hurt, and they haven't been able to realize that portion of the playbook since. There's at least a chance TyMont can fill, and potentially thrive, in that role.
...the Ravens brought in Woodhead to be a key piece in that offense, he got hurt, and they haven't been able to realize that portion of the playbook since. There's at least a chance TyMont can fill, and potentially thrive, in that role.
The Frankman
Footballguy
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The Claymaker
Footballguy
Honestly if you think that Rodgers has any say on player personnel moves, your giving him way too much credit.
Think back only to after last season, Jordy was cut and Rodgers was pissed. When asked he said something along the lines of no ones said anything to him or asked his opinion. People think these high paid superstar QBs have all this power and they really don’t.
Deamon
Footballguy
He said that, sure.
This was different though. Usually QB's 'say the right thing" and support their guys who make errors that cost them the game. Rodgers' interview didn't shy away from calling out Ty for this. I'm sure he at least sent a text saying "get rid of this guy, I never want to speak to him again"
If Montgomery hadn't gotten hurt, you wouldn't even know who J.Williams or A.Jones are today. He's a very good player who was being criminally underutilized and I hope the change of scenery does him a world of good (although I was hoping he'd finally land in a less-crowded situation).
The Claymaker
Footballguy
Yea, this isn't basketball. These guys are 1 of 60 on the roster. They don't call the shots.
ATB
Footballguy
He's the greatest QB possibly over. Could certainly argue the most gifted. He has surpassed Favre and will be THE legend in Green Bay for decades and decades. If he wants someone gone AND the coaching staff doesn't value them, you can betchurr ### that guy is gone.
The Claymaker
Footballguy
I think Ty had the most drops of catchable passes his last season in college. I honestly believe his hands is why he was never used more than a few yards downfield or in a consistent role as a slot guy. I wish I could find a stat that showed how many of his catches have been more than 10 yards downfield, I would bet the percentage is low.
Anyway he gets a new shot with the Ravens and was cheap, so it’s a win/win for the Ravens, even if he’s not a big hit.
EBF
Footballguy
Yea, his hands aren't great at all. He doesn't have good jump ball or catch radius skills.
However, he's dangerous in the open field. I always felt he should be GB's heir to Cobb, not the next Jordy or James Starks.
I'd look at him on the Ravens as being like a poor man's Anquan Boldin. They've always seemed to value the big/physical WR with their draft picks and FA moves even if it hasn't always worked out. I know the Ravens specifically target gritty/tough/physical players and I can sort of see how Ty fits that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very lukewarm on his dynasty value, but at this point a change of scenery can't hurt since the RB experiment has run its course.
However, he's dangerous in the open field. I always felt he should be GB's heir to Cobb, not the next Jordy or James Starks.
I'd look at him on the Ravens as being like a poor man's Anquan Boldin. They've always seemed to value the big/physical WR with their draft picks and FA moves even if it hasn't always worked out. I know the Ravens specifically target gritty/tough/physical players and I can sort of see how Ty fits that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very lukewarm on his dynasty value, but at this point a change of scenery can't hurt since the RB experiment has run its course.
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
Yup, Packers basically told Montgomery "screw you and good riddance" when booting him off to Ravens in exchange for 7th round pick.
