bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
are you pimpin knile davis? I have always been intrigued by him, seemed to do well enough in KC, but switching teams the odds are against him.
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RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (1 Viewer)
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JFS171
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Thing of it is, he's learning as he goes here. IMO with what he's shown, there's no reason not to see how good he could be. He needs reps reading the defense and learning the nuances of the position, but even without that he's putting up great numbers. The ceiling is enormous here...
@Dr. Brew called this first a couple weeks ago, and I echoed his season changer stance after seeing Montgomery play last Sunday. He just might be this year's king maker.
@Dr. Brew called this first a couple weeks ago, and I echoed his season changer stance after seeing Montgomery play last Sunday. He just might be this year's king maker.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Montgomery has taken this opportunity and made a very good case for himself to stay in the RB conversation.
Starks has always been JAG. Honestly Cobb and Montgomery look better than he would running the ball this game.
I don't know what gb does moving forward and I'm excited to find out but for now those who started montgomery got a great game and might have a hidden gem
Milkman
Footballguy
How many RB have switched teams and been successful and how many WR have switch positions and been successful?
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
The difference is that Montgomery was always a potential tweener with an NFL RB body and limited down field receiving ability.
Why can't he be what people want Procise and Dwayne Washington to be?
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Jed
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Milkman
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
your argument is so bogus. you're taking EVERY RB who has EVER been traded to another team and has had success and comparing that to how many wrs who have switched to rb and been successful? I don't even know of any. so maybe ty is the first. either way that's ridiculous. how about we talk about PLAYERS who switch positions and are succesful. plenty of examples of those. heck, Cobb was a qb and is doing quite well at wr. Shields switched from wr to cb and has done quite well when not on ir
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
switching teams is one thing, switching teams in season is another. Ty isn't special but hes getting an opportunity to score FF points, not everyone can be special.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It's painfully obvious that you're invested in his failure somehow. Starks, Don, Knile, I don't know who. But you're biased to not see the potential (key word) here. No one is saying he's a special stud.
Milkman
Footballguy
Milkman
Footballguy
No. I called his success today. Maybe not on this board though. Sell high guys. I'll leave now so you guys can celebrate your big day. Happy for you guys.
ponchsox
Footballguy
NREC34
Footballguy
He does hours and hours of film study and knows everything about every player that us mere mortals cannot see.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Are you kidding me? Montgomery is an NFL athlete at the RB position, and was a 3rd round pick.
He's already shown more than Dwayne Washington has at the position in the NFL, and he's not even a RB. Where are you getting the idea that Dwayne Washington is some kind of great prospect that's ridiculous to put in the same sentence as Montgomery? One was a premium pick, one was barely drafted.
It's not sitting well with me that Montgomery had opportunities to put points on the board tonight, and didn't. Not stretching out at the goal line showed his lack of awareness as an RB. And, I think that missed opportunity to catch the ball in the flats and get it in to the end zone disappointed Rodgers as well.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
A TD or two would have been nice but I'm not going to be greedy, it's nice when it plays out right.
Don't know if that was in reference to my post, but what I meant was that he's not really showing the play-making ability to stick to one of the top targets. Either that, or he's just running out of gas from all of the work
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
No just a random thought. Was just thinking of how close he was to a monster game.Don't know if that was in reference to my post, but what I meant was that he's not really showing the play-making ability to stick to one of the top targets. Either that, or he's just running out of gas from all of the work
Would have been sweet, huh? I would have felt like a genius for the next few days! Ha!
Interseptopus
Footballguy
his goal line carry he made the most of what he could to be honest. went to him at least one other time in the red zone. passing play. I'm encouraged by the looks he got
Any way you slice it, it sure was fun tonight, right?
And, I'm fairly certain that will be better than what I would have gotten out of Nuk.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
And they designed a little pick play for him early on in the endzone as well, but Rodgers moved on to his next read before he broke open. They want to get him involved in the red zone, he was open momentarily in the endzone while Rodgers was scrambling in the 4th quarter, too.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
I still don't really see Ty as a RB, but I'm happy with what he showed. Even dating back to his rookie year, he's looked like a guy who belongs in the NFL and who will make good things happen when the ball is in his hands. I hope they treat him like a Cobb/Edelman/Woodhead type of weapon and just get him 10-12 touches per game.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Just a feeling. I had gone back and forth all night and was basically a coun flip in my mind. Wish i had pulled Meredith instead of Fitz. But that was unexpected
hamsterdam
Footballguy
He will never be a traditional RB IMO but he can make a living in this in this tweener role if they decide to feature it.
OU#1
Footballguy
Not sure if directed at me, but I own him for what it's worth. I'm also the commissioner, and try to keep the league fair. I won't override his position or anything, however it seems like he should be classified as a RB?
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
That's up to your league host.
Colston spent his rookie yr listed as a TE and never played a snap there
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
hamsterdam
Footballguy
hamsterdam
Footballguy
If it's Yahoo he'll gain dual eligibility which is even better.
Value for one position is just based on each individual's roster needs. Me being a Lacy owner would jump with joy if he got RB or dual eligibility.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
He may have been Te/Wr, I can't remember but yeah, If I hadn't owned him I would've been unhappy too
Interseptopus
Footballguy
ESPN will not change any position but Yahoo may
his value at rb would put him at Woodhead status. I hope they give him eligibility
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grateful zed
Footballguy
i remember kleinhauser,te,min was also listed is a fullback.
i over drafted him and didnt score one touchdown. :(
i over drafted him and didnt score one touchdown. :(
Wrong! It was the second biggest load after Joe Webb.
There are only two reasons these things matter: roster flexibility and stat differentials. The flexibility is a nice thing to have, but doesn't really have a huge impact (especially for RB/WR, since most leagues have flex spots), but the Webb thing was huge because in many leagues QBs put up significantly more points (and with a higher floor) than other positions.
FWIW, Matthew Berry said on his podcast the other day that ESPN's policy is that they will add a position designation to a player mid-season but will never take one away. So Montgomery could potentially become a RB/WR, but he will never just become an RB even if he's locked in as the team's starter.
This is what I think they will do. They should use him in the mold of Woodhead, Riddick, and White. He's not quite Dion Lewis yet as he doesn't run between the tackles as well but he might become that. Starks has been plowing ahead for less than 2 ypc this year, I'm not concerned about him coming back and taking over anything.
I'd like to add something very important. From what I saw, the man blocks too. He threw a couple good ones and made some good chips on his blocks and releases.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
Glad I played him last night, but I still can't help feel that he just looks average. Idk, maybe it's just learning the nuances of the RB position. Things like chip blocking and still getting into his route quickly, not getting hung up with lineman, etc. He just doesn't look smooth in these plays. Nor does he look good in/out of his breaks or in running routes in general ( doesn't set up defenders). Right now he is benefiting from a crazy amount of touches and a soft schedule. Should benefit next week in a high scoring game against Atl,and then plays my horrendous Colts team. I may try to sell high at that point.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
He should be a solid PPR play next week against Atlanta. I can see GB playing from behind and forced to pass.
Long term, they'll probably....just speculation here....go back to having a traditional RB with that being Davis or Jackson. Montgomery would then be the pass catching back/wr and I can see his touches ease up.
Long term, they'll probably....just speculation here....go back to having a traditional RB with that being Davis or Jackson. Montgomery would then be the pass catching back/wr and I can see his touches ease up.
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